I am looking for Christian books that discuss intelligent design and creationism from both a scientific and Christian perspective. I would like some recommendations.

I hear The Case For A Creator by Lee Strobel is good. If you want to get specific, Fazale Rana's book The Cell's Design is very good but rather technical.

A book that I enjoyed was "I don't Have Enough Faith to Be an Atheist" by Norman L. Geisler and Frank Turek. They basically use the rules science to show there is more credibility to intelligent design than things "just happening".

seriously, 'in the beginning was information' by gitt was one of the best i've read. get it!!!!!

also, 'i don't have enough faith to be and athiest' was good too.

Scientific Creationism by Henry Morris. Best book out there. It's loaded with science.

This isn't what you meant, of course, but: Ken Miller's Finding Darwin's God, Joan Roughgarden's Evolution and Christian Faith, and Francis Collins' The Language of God (I haven't read the latter, so I can't absolutely guarantee that it's good). The reason they're not what you meant is that they all dismiss creationism/"ID" and accept evolution―they were written by prominent scientists, so no other outcome was remotely probable, of course. But they do discuss creationism/"ID" from both a religious viewpoint (why it is theologically unnecessary and/or unsound) and a scientific one (why it makes no sense at all, scientifically). So, technically, it is what you asked for.

Oh, and also they're really good*. I forgot about that.

*(The first two, at least)

I am looking for Christian books that discuss intelligent design and creationism from both a scientific and Christian perspective. I would like some recommendations.

"Fearfully and Wonderfully Made" by Paul Brand, M.D. (Zondervan, Grand Rapids, 1980)

This isn't what you meant, of course, but: Ken Miller's Finding Darwin's God, Joan Roughgarden's Evolution and Christian Faith, and Francis Collins' The Language of God (I haven't read the latter, so I can't absolutely guarantee that it's good). The reason they're not what you meant is that they all dismiss creationism/"ID" and accept evolution―they were written by prominent scientists, so no other outcome was remotely probable, of course. But they do discuss creationism/"ID" from both a religious viewpoint (why it is theologically unnecessary and/or unsound) and a scientific one (why it makes no sense at all, scientifically). So, technically, it is what you asked for.

Oh, and also they're really good*. I forgot about that.

*(The first two, at least)

You left out that the books are pathetically childish in their approach to theology as well.


Some books on the subject that I would recommend:

Case for a Creator by Lee Strobel

Darwin's Black Box by Michael Behe

Reason in the Balance by Phil Johnson

Intelligent Design by Bill Dembski

Darwinism, Design, and Public Education by Stephen C. Meyer

Understanding Intelligent Design by Bill Dembski

The Devil's Delusion by David Berlinksi

The Edge of Evolution by Michael Behe

You left out that the books are pathetically childish in their approach to theology as well.


Some books on the subject that I would recommend:

Case for a Creator by Lee Strobel

Darwin's Black Box by Michael Behe

Reason in the Balance by Phil Johnson

Intelligent Design by Bill Dembski

Darwinism, Design, and Public Education by Stephen C. Meyer

Understanding Intelligent Design by Bill Dembski

The Devil's Delusion by David Berlinksi

The Edge of Evolution by Michael Behe

To those I would add:

Defeating Darwinism by Phil Johnson

Signs of Intelligence by Bill Dembski

Darwin on Trial by Phil Johnson (the one called Reason in the Balance is more about how naturalism has influenced law and education)

You left out that the books are pathetically childish in their approach to theology as well. Um, not really. Yes, they are more science-oriented (seeing as they were written by, you know, scientists) but I don't understand what's "pathetically childish" about "There's no reason God couldn't've used evolution to create life."

I don't believe in the evolutionary theory that humans are descended from ape-like creatures. I think God made us with some common traits that apes have, though, like walking upright, having opposable thumbs, etc.

Here is a great site you should look over.

http://answersingenesis.org/

Um, not really. Yes, they are more science-oriented (seeing as they were written by, you know, scientists) but I don't understand what's "pathetically childish" about "There's no reason God couldn't've used evolution to create life."

Other than the fact that it contradicts Scripture (naturalistic evolution, that is).

Look, they're not theologians and they did a horrible job explaining how the two can coincide. Doesn't mean they're wrong, just means they leave quite a bit to be desired in terms of offering a plausible defense.

It's like when Dawkins tries to do philosophy - you cringe because it's just so...simple.

I find that any book or video by Hugh Ross, who is a Christian Astrophysicist, has very good information about Intelligent Design. One of his books is called "The Fingerprint Of God" and it gives an excellent explanation of the Universe and how it had to be designed by a Creator to even exist. He has a website called reasonstobelieve.com which has videos and articles on Intelligent Design.
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Okay, let's not turn this into another debate over ID vs. evo. :rolleyes: The OP was very specific in simply asking for 'Christian' books discussing ID and creation. So, let's limit the discussion to that. If you want to debate...start another thread. :)

God Bless!

Creation as Science: A Testable Model Approach to End the Creation/Evolution Wars by Dr Hugh Ross http://store.reasons.org/us/books/creation-as-science

His ministry, Reasons to Believe has several resouces here: http://www.reasons.org/resources/apologetics/index.shtml#design_in_the_universe

Darwin's Black Box and Understanding Intelligent Design are really 'must reads' for anyone who really wants to delve into this subject. It's really amazing how many get into this discussion without a true understanding of what true ID is all about. There have been some good suggestion in the thread so far. You should get a lot of mileage on your library card. :D

I have a link to a movie called Unlocking the Mysteries of Life (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5585125669588896670&q=unlocking+the+mystery+of+life) that does a good job of portraying what ID is and is not. It's a bit more than an hour so when you have the time, take a look. :) Enjoy your search.

God Bless!

Other than the fact that it contradicts Scripture (naturalistic evolution, that is).

Look, they're not theologians and they did a horrible job explaining how the two can coincide. Doesn't mean they're wrong, just means they leave quite a bit to be desired in terms of offering a plausible defense.

It's like when Dawkins tries to do philosophy - you cringe because it's just so...simple.

If that's the case, then perhaps the following books would be more fitting:

In the Beginning - Henri Blocher
The Meaning of Creation - Conrad Hyers
Perspectives on an Evolving Creation - Various (edited by Keith Miller)

All three are quite academic in nature, but they do go in great depth about the TE mindset. And they are from (or have entries by) religious scholars.

I do agree that the religious message in the aforementioned books is quite simplistic. Trying to understand religion through scientists is almost as silly as trying to understand science through theologians. ;)

Trying to understand religion through scientists is almost as silly as trying to understand science through theologians. ;)But that is what the OP is looking for. Christian books on ID and creationism. Let's respect their request. ;)

Since there are some here whose recommendations are theistic evolution, I felt it necessary to be more clear about the book I suggested.

Scientific Creationism by Henry Morris is a book which uses science to argue against the evolution model and for the young earth, creation model as scripture describes in Genesis. It takes the bible literally and explains how scientific evidence backs this up.

Also, the book The Genesis Flood by John Morris is a read too. It uses scientific evidence as well as geology to argue for the biblical account of the worldwide flood.

Trying to understand religion through scientists is almost as silly as trying to understand science through theologians. ;)


If God truly created the world and flooded the world as scripture says, then we should only expect science to give real evidence of this. Science, as far as I'm concerned, is only studying what God made and how He made it. I love science and do not believe that it conflicts with scripture.

The only thing which conflicts with scripture is many a scientist's interpretation and conclusion about what they see in the earth. Their are many scientists out there who see clearly that science only gives clear evidence that the bible is accurate.

If God truly created the world and flooded the world as scripture says, then we should only expect science to give real evidence of this. Science, as far as I'm concerned, is only studying what God made and how He made it. I love science and do not believe that it conflicts with scripture.

The only thing which conflicts with scripture is many a scientist's interpretation and conclusion about what they see in the earth. Their are many scientists out there who see clearly that science only gives clear evidence that the bible is accurate.

I don't want to get into a debate in this thread, since it would be off-topic. All I will say is, most of us (TE's) are dedicated, normal, evangelical Christians, and if you want to know how we can believe two things that many here consider contradictory then those books are a good resource. Scripture may seem simple on the surface, but when you dig deeply into it you find many, many layers and I have found the obvious doesn't seem so obvious. But again, that's a subject for another thread.

For the record, I agree 100% with the bolded statement above. :)