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Mordoth
Dec 10th 2008, 02:24 AM
Just wondering what others think it might be? I strongly doubt it will be as blatant as a big red '666' on your forehead, so is it the implantable RFID verichip? God said technology would increase, so I don't see why not. All input is welcome, I would just like to know if I am leaving something out. If I am in fact wrong, and it doesn't parallel with end time prophecy, I will delete the video ASAP.

Feel free to watch any of my vids by the way...

Joe King
Dec 10th 2008, 03:38 AM
I believe the mark is both spiritual and physical. No one will be able to buy and sell without the mark.

markedward
Dec 10th 2008, 03:52 AM
Just wondering what others think it might be? I strongly doubt it will be as blatant as a big red '666' on your forehead, so is it the implantable RFID verichip?So you're basically saying it's not going to be what Scripture actually says it is? (Minus the "red" part.)

Could it be that people realize that modern culture is so superstitious of "666" that they know a potential antichrist would never use it because doing so would only incite a mass conversion to Christianity based on the fact that secular people, though secular, aren't stupid and would realize "Hey, maybe there's truth to be found in Christianity based on the fact that it so accurately prophesied this happening in the first century and it's actually happening exactly as it said it" so then they attempt to explain it away by claiming it's something Scripture doesn't say it is?

And people think I'm wrong because I "spiritualize" the Revelation... what about those who completely flip what it says upside-down?

Mordoth
Dec 10th 2008, 06:54 AM
So you're basically saying it's not going to be what Scripture actually says it is? (Minus the "red" part.)

I'm not saying that at all. I am merely asking... People like you are the main reason why I'm not a Christian, no offense. ;)


Also the mark of the beast is not a physical mark of any kind. It is purely spiritual language meaning we the unsaved wil belong to Satan. Much like a cattle brand tells someone who the cattle belongs to. So do each human have a mark showing who we belong to. Satan or Christ.

Well, the Bible did say that most of the world would accept it, and since you cannot buy or sell without it, it's clearly a physical object of some sort. With technology the way it is today, I can see mankind being forced to receive the tiny implantable verichip with the numbers '666' in the identifiable barcode. :hmm:

markedward
Dec 10th 2008, 06:59 AM
People like you are the main reason why I'm not a Christian, no offense. ;)Two things.

1. "People like [me]" meaning what? You brought it up, so I want to know what you meant.

2. What "people like [me]" say or do has absolutely nothing to do with "why [you're] not a Christian". It's completely irrelevent how other people act in relation to how you define yourself. Hitler called himself "Christian", but that doesn't mean "I'm not a Christian" just because he was incredibly corrupt and twisted. So you and I may disagree... but that should have absolutely no bearing on whether you identify as a Christian.

(Sidenote: "Non-Christians" are restricted to posting in the Christians Answer section.)


Well, the Bible did say that most of the world would accept it, and since you cannot buy or sell without it, it's clearly a physical object of some sort. With technology the way it is today, I can see mankind being forced to receive the tiny implantable verichip with the numbers '666' in the identifiable barcode. :hmm:Because of this, I would necessarily say you are trying to interpret "the mark" through a modern-day secular point of view, as opposed to using Scripture to determine what it is.

mccain22
Dec 12th 2008, 09:43 PM
I think it will probably be a prefix for identification. Something like a social security number....666-422-34-2345(not a real social security number :P )

JesusMySavior
Dec 13th 2008, 02:58 AM
"And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark on the right hand or forehead that no man may buy or sell except he that has the mark."


this is not simply a spiritual mark. Christians can still buy things and sell things. It says that the beast caused them to receive a mark. Note that the mark is physical. ON the right hand or forehead. I don't know what it is, but we're not supposed to know until it comes.

The reason I think the RFID chip has some believeable truth to it is because supposedly (the rumor is) the makers or the higher-ups say that it can only work in the right hand or forehead. Left hand won't work, and neither will your buttocks. Temperature consistency issues as well as tracking capability.

Is that the mark? I don't know. I won't receive it regardless. I also believe that those who are truly Christians, even if they are blind to what it means (new Christians or Christians who have never heard this prophecy) will be covered and let known by the Holy Spirit if they are to face it.

People have been debating this for years but I think that we should just focus on Christ and on spreading the Gospel and helping to heal the broken because the Master is coming soon, whether we expect Him or not.

"Behold I come quickly! Even so, come Lord Jesus. Amen."

ServantofTruth
Dec 13th 2008, 07:43 PM
Just wondering what others think it might be? I strongly doubt it will be as blatant as a big red '666' on your forehead, so is it the implantable RFID verichip? God said technology would increase, so I don't see why not. All input is welcome, I would just like to know if I am leaving something out. If I am in fact wrong, and it doesn't parallel with end time prophecy, I will delete the video ASAP.

Feel free to watch any of my vids by the way...

In most of the churches i have been to, different denominations, they look at Revelations within the context of Jesus' words especially that no one knows the time of the 2nd coming.

However i have been to a smaller local church where 'end times' prophecy and the book of Revelations take pride of place every week.

The bible has 66 books and if we get stuck on one subject for too long our faith becomes twisted not balanced. Its like creation v evolution, abortion and many more.

Here in Christian Answer i wish people would focus more on the gospels and Jesus Christ. It's a safe bet that until your accept Jesus Christ into your heart and mind, the bible won't make a lot of sense! :hmm:

We all come from different churches, and it's just my personal experience of most denominations that i've been to, that Revelations is an extremely differcult book to study. Yes we should still study it, but not without it's context of the whole bible.

There have always been Christians who have believed that Jesus was about to return and took the signs of their day to prove this through prophecy. This began in the bible - we begin hearing this in the New Testament.

Just a word of caution. Jesus may return tonight. But Jesus may not return for centuries either. Anyone who says otherwise puts themself above God made flesh/ Jesus Christ. SofTy.

danlevans
Dec 13th 2008, 07:59 PM
There's new technology that does not use a chip but instead uses a permanent tattoo with invisible ink. Also they show a chart with the data size in digits and there is one number that occurs only three times in the data size and that number is 666. The name of the company that invented this technology is called SO MARK.

Here's the link:

SO MARK (http://dev.somarkinnovations.com/wp-content/somark-platform-technology-capabilities-r21.pdf)

MacGyver
Dec 16th 2008, 03:02 AM
Here is an article that I wrote on it

This is that infamous number that is found in the book of Revelation (13:16-18; 16:2; 19:20). Scripture says:



16 Also it causes all, both small and great, both rich and poor, both free and slave, to be marked on the right hand or the forehead, 17 so that no one can buy or sell unless he has the mark, that is, the name of the beast or the number of its name. 18 This calls for wisdom: let him who has understanding reckon the number of the beast, for it is a human number, its number is six hundred and sixty-six.



The obvious question would be, 'what does this number mean?' Scripture says it is, the name of the beast or the number of its nameand that it is a human number.

But before I go any further, I do want to stress that I remain cautious by not showing any certainty of who the Antichrist is or will be in a specific manner. I choose to follow the same spirit of St. Irenaeus who said,

" It is therefore more certain, and less hazardous, to await the fulfilment of the prophecy (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/12473a.htm), than to be making surmises, and casting about for any names that may present themselves, inasmuch as many names can be found possessing the number mentioned; and the same question will, after all, remain unsolved. For if there are many names found possessing this number, it will be asked which among them shall the coming man bear. It is not through a want of names containing the number of that name that I say this, but on account of the fear (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/06021a.htm) of God (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/06608a.htm), and zeal (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/15753a.htm) for the truth (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/15073a.htm): We will not, however, incur the risk of pronouncing positively as to the name of Antichrist (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/01559a.htm); for if it were necessary that his name should be distinctly revealed in this present time, it would have been announced by him who beheld the apocalyptic vision." (Against Hereises 5.30.3 (http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/0103530.htm)


That being said, let's look at some possible names!

There are many names that we can come up with that are equivalent to this number. The consensus among the Early Church Fathers is TEITON in Greek and DICLUX in Latin.

In Greek: Teitan, which τ three hundred, ε five, ι ten, τ three hundred, α one, ν fifty,— which taken together become six hundred and sixty-six.

In Latin: DICLUX, which letters are reckoned in this manner: since D figures five hundred, I one, C a hundred, L fifty, V five, X ten,— which by the reckoning up of the letters makes similarly six hundred and sixty-six.

In Hebrew: Nero Caesar" (or "Caesar Nero") was NRWN QSR.


Nun = 50
Resh = 200
Waw = 6
Nun = 50
Qop = 100
Samekh = 60
Resh = 200
TOTAL = 666

Read More!

Early Church Fathers (http://litteralchristianlibrary.wetpaint.com/page/Patristic+Interpretations+of+666) on 666



What does it mean by, to be marked on the right hand or the forehead?

It is highly unlikely that it will be a literal mark on their forehead and right hand. I follow the idea of Primasius, he said,

"He here distinguishes the individual members, although more often he includes them as a whole in the body, or the person of the beast. The 'hand' indicates works, and it is the right hand to simulate truth. The 'forehead' symbolizes the confession of faith. Since they are defrauded in regard to both of these good things, they are said to be marked on both."

Bob Carabbio
Dec 22nd 2008, 06:28 AM
Personal opinion -

Mark in the Forhead - how you think - what you believe

Mark in the Hand - how you act - what you do

I'm sure that (thanks to Wal-Mart) we will be electronically tagged as humans - the Germans in the '40s (With IBM'S assistance) was easily able to round up and separate the Jews from the general population easily from existing databases 70 years ago.

JUST IMAGINE how much BETTER at it "Big Brother" is TODAY!!

So relax, y'all!!! Everything you're "AFRAID" they'll find out - they've already KNOWN for decades. Every U.S. Citizen is "tagged already", and has been for decades.

All they need to do is format the report, print it, and we're ALL "Busted".

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