Hi ladies!

My good friend and I (both females) were having a convo about sex and then it went down a road of masturbation...she is a christian too but I didnt want to give her my thoughts without first asking.

Is it wrong to masturbate? Since its not fornication is it ok to do?

Also is it wrong to go to sex store to purchase "items"?

I didnt know how to answer so I thought I would ask the counsel LOL

God Bless

Hi ladies!

My good friend and I (both females) were having a convo about sex and then it went down a road of masturbation...she is a christian too but I didnt want to give her my thoughts without first asking.

Is it wrong to masturbate? Since its not fornication is it ok to do?

Also is it wrong to go to sex store to purchase "items"?

I didnt know how to answer so I thought I would ask the counsel LOL

God Bless
Masturbation is self-centered, an act of self-gratification.

If you use some sort of visual stimulus, then aren't you committing adultery? You are lusting in your heart for someone besides your husband.

And if you assured me that you were masturbating while lusting after your husband...I'd wonder why you were masturbating to begin with?

I think that while the use of sex toys might be considered okay within the confines of a marriage (Hebrews 13:4), going into the store to buy them might be injurious to your testimony, like a Baptist going into a liquor store. ;) See 1 Thessalonians 5:22.

Aside from the thoughts above, I think it's between you and your Saviour.

Masturbation is self-centered, an act of self-gratification.

If you use some sort of visual stimulus, then aren't you committing adultery? You are lusting in your heart for someone besides your husband.

And if you assured me that you were masturbating while lusting after your husband...I'd wonder why you were masturbating to begin with?

I think that while the use of sex toys might be considered okay within the confines of a marriage (Hebrews 13:4), going into the store to buy them might be injurious to your testimony, like a Baptist going into a liquor store. ;) See 1 Thessalonians 5:22.

Aside from the thoughts above, I think it's between you and your Saviour.


Well sadly im not married...lusting is a problem in general married or not. Is it possible to masturbate and not lust? :hmm: Just in case she hits me with that lol my friend is a crafty one.

Well sadly im not married...lusting is a problem in general married or not. Is it possible to masturbate and not lust?
I don't think so.

I don't think so.


Thank You My Dear I will relay this to my friend and also myself :)

God Bless

I wholeheartedly disagree with the position that masturbation is sinful. It is a natural part of your sexuality and there is nothing in the Bible forbidding it. Visual stimulation is not necessary and you are not necessarily lusting after someone. You are simply fulfilling a physical need. Teens masterbate and they have never experienced sex to be lusting after. In fact, masturbation is a valuable tool to learn about your own body and how it works sexually. Such information will be quite valuable when you are married. You will be able to tell your husband what feels good to you.

Since we all stand or fall before the Lord personally, I would suggest this:
Before you masturbate, get on your knees and ask for His blessing. If you feel you have received it,then you have the liberty to do what you will before Him.

I wholeheartedly disagree with the position that masturbation is sinful. It is a natural part of your sexuality and there is nothing in the Bible forbidding it.

But there are multiple verses that describe sex as a gift to be enjoyed by spouses; by TWO people. Not one. Masturbation is sexual pleasure for ONE. It is self-indulgent. Everything in Scripture regarding sex portrays it as a selfless act (giving pleasure to another) not a selfISH act for one.


Visual stimulation is not necessary and you are not necessarily lusting after someone.

Riiight. So your mind can be blank while you bring yourself to climax? You don't visualize anything sexual? You think about doing the laundry and get turned on or what?


You are simply fulfilling a physical need.

That is designed to be fulfilled by your spouse, not yourself.


Teens masterbate and they have never experienced sex to be lusting after.

So? Your point? Sexual desire is part of who we are, it's a gift from God. Of course the desire will be there, but that doesn't mean it needs to be fulfilled outside of marriage. This is why Scripture emphasizes chastity, self-control, and not awakening those desires.


In fact, masturbation is a valuable tool to learn about your own body and how it works sexually. Such information will be quite valuable when you are married. You will be able to tell your husband what feels good to you.

Why not let your spouse do the exploring and learn together?

The ONLY time I think that masturbation is not sinful is when it is shared with your spouse (mutual masturbation) where you use it as part of your sexual activity together OR when a spouse is out of town or something. In the case of the latter, I still think one would have to be sure their spouse was aware of it, agreed to it and then the thoughts should ONLY Be focused on the spouse (not porn).

We have to remember, our bodies are not our own. The wife's body belongs to her husband, and the husband's body belongs to the wife. If you're not married, your body belongs to God (and your future spouse).

We are supposed to follow Christ's example in our lives. Somehow I don't envision Jesus participating in such a thing.

Jeanne

God made my body & he made it with sexual urges. True, not all expressions of that sexuality are pleasing to Him, but He did make it for me to enjoy, just like any other part of my personality.

Karenoka, do you pray everytime you have sex? Do you pray everytime you do anything that is pleasurable to you (eating something decadant, participating in a fun activity)?

Hope, I am married, so on the rare occasions that I pleasure myself, I do think about my husband b/c I have that point of reference. The OP is not married. She has no spouse to fulfill that physical need for her. I think it's better for single people to pleasure themselves than to give in to the temptation of sleeping with different people before they find their spouse.

And as far as teens go, you don't have to do anything to "awaken" those desires. They are there, long before you know or need to know what they are for. And again, I would rather they explore their own bodies than to get involved in a sexual relationship WAY before they are ready for it.

We are supposed to follow Christ's example in our lives. Somehow I don't envision Jesus participating in such a thing.

Jeanne

Jesus never had sex either. If you want to be celibate your whole life, that's your choice. It isn't mine.

Directed to all: I realize that we are to work out our own salvation, so if it's a stumbling block to you don't do it. It's not a problem for me. Honestly though, I see a lot of holier-than-thou attitudes on this forum. It's a big turnoff to me AS a Christian and one of the biggest reasons people do not come to Christ. Please stop acting like you are too saved to do anything normal.

We are supposed to follow Christ's example in our lives. Somehow I don't envision Jesus participating in such a thing.

Jeanne

:rofl: You've got that right. Sex is to be between a man and a wife. Period. I certainly agree with those who say that masturbation cannot occur without visualizaiton of sinful things. Did not Yahshua say that anyone who had even looked on a woman with lust has committed adultery? Therefore it is obvious that masturbation is fornication in spirit.

Jesus never had sex either. If you want to be celibate your whole life, that's your choice. It isn't mine.

Directed to all: Honestly, I see a lot of holier-than-thou attitudes on this forum. It's a big turnoff to me AS a Christian and one of the biggest reasons people do not come to Christ. Please stop acting like you are too saved to do anything normal.
What is normal is so often of the world. Yahshua does not want us to be "normal" in the world's eyes. He wants us to be pure and spotless in His eyes.

What is normal is so often of the world. Yahshua does not want us to be "normal" in the world's eyes. He wants us to be pure and spotless in His eyes.
You missed the part where I said that people are turned away from Christ. But that's ok. Ya'll stay in your ivory towers. I'm going back to the real world now. God bless.

mrspark,
You sound rather defensive.
If you believe masturbation is ok, then that's between you and God.
We all know God created sex for pleasure and procreation, but IMO there is a time and place for it.

I personally do not feel comfortable with this.

We all have our opinions on the subject and were expressing them.
We weren't trying to criticize you.

I'm sorry if it came across that way.

Jeanne

You missed the part where I said that people are turned away from Christ. But that's ok. Ya'll stay in your ivory towers. I'm going back to the real world now. God bless.

I'm really sorry that you took this personally. It is perfectly fine to disagree without being disagreeable.

We all do live in the real world - not some ivory tower - that was rather insulting. Some people are going to be turned away from Christ no matter what....Jesus said himself that the world hates him, and will hate us because we are His.

Since we all stand or fall before the Lord personally, I would suggest this:
Before you masturbate, get on your knees and ask for His blessing. If you feel you have received it,then you have the liberty to do what you will before Him.

Oh my, I know you didn't intend for this to be funny but I nearly fell out of my chair. I am so taking this one and using it in the future.

Personally I think it's sick and sinful and serves no purpose. The sexual fulfillment you receive in a committed marriage is the ONLY fulfillment you need and should desire. Anything else is from the evil one.

Jesus never had sex either. If you want to be celibate your whole life, that's your choice. It isn't mine.

Directed to all: I realize that we are to work out our own salvation, so if it's a stumbling block to you don't do it. It's not a problem for me. Honestly though, I see a lot of holier-than-thou attitudes on this forum. It's a big turnoff to me AS a Christian and one of the biggest reasons people do not come to Christ. Please stop acting like you are too saved to do anything normal.

It's a big turn off that you're trying to push off something that YOU consider normal on everyone else. We all have our own barometers and standards of living but I notice when people engage in something "different" they AUTOMATICALLY think everyone else does. :confused Not so. Nor do I consider myself holier that thou. My siggy tells it all. I AM a sinner and NONE, not one are good especially me but I am truly puzzled that a Christian woman thinks masturbation is ok. :confused

You missed the part where I said that people are turned away from Christ. But that's ok. Ya'll stay in your ivory towers. I'm going back to the real world now. God bless.

I didn't miss that part but was trying to stay on topic. Since you have brought it up again, though, I will say that many people are totally turned off by people who call themselves Christians but who are not living much, if at all, differently than the world. For example, I used to go to a big Church singles group. The attitudes and values and behaviors that I saw there seemed little different, if at all, from the world's. It I had not had a really strong faith in the Gospel already, I would have thought, based on their behavior, it was meaninglesss and powerless to change anyone's lives.

If you want to "go back to the real world now" that is your choice.

But Mrs. Sparks, I hope and pray you will reflect on what YHWH's Holy Word has to say about being part of the world:

Do not be conformed to this world, but continually be transformed by the renewing of your minds so that you may be able to determine what YHWH's will is-what is proper, pleasing, and perfect. Romans 12:2

ok Firstly I didnt mean for this to get all nasty and ugly like it has. I was just asking a question whatever your feelings are thats fine. I wantned to know what the bible says about it...its a shame its has to get all out of hand like it has...really poor examples of christians if you ask me. to each there own I guess honestly to avoid fornication I would prefer to masturbate...and I happen to agree with mrsparks. But thanks to all for there comments wether rude or nice. BUT COMDEMING SOMEONE ELSE BECAUSE YOU FEEL SOMETHING IS SICK OR NASTY IS REALLY NO CHRIST LIKE.


God Bless :)

First of all, no one was condemned....there will always be differences of opinion especially with a topic such as this which gets heated rather quickly.

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