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cajunman4life
Apr 11th 2009, 04:21 PM
1 And it came to pass, when the LORD would take up Elijah into heaven by a whirlwind, that Elijah went with Elisha from Gilgal.




13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.

So then, where did Elijah go?

Nihil Obstat
Apr 11th 2009, 04:43 PM
To Abraham's bosom.

cajunman4life
Apr 11th 2009, 05:16 PM
To Abraham's bosom.



22 And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried;
23 And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.


Makes perfect sense.

(From the story of the rich man and Lazarus, Luke 16:19-31)

Nihil Obstat
Apr 11th 2009, 05:19 PM
Where was Abraham's bosom?

-SEEKING-
Apr 11th 2009, 06:17 PM
So then, where did Elijah go?

Heaven. It was there in your first quote. He was TAKEN he didn't ascend.

EagleWatch
Apr 11th 2009, 07:19 PM
Originally Posted by 2 Kings 2:1 (King James Version)

1 And it came to pass, when the LORD would take up Elijah into heaven by a whirlwind, that Elijah went with Elisha from Gilgal.

Quote:
Originally Posted by John 3:13 (King James Version) 13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.

So then, where did Elijah go?
The Bible says that "Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven" (2 Kings 2:11), "Enoch was translated that he should not see death" (Hebrews 11:5), and "God took him"

EagleWatch
Apr 11th 2009, 07:29 PM
Where was Abraham's bosom?

The phrase "Bosom of Abraham" refers to the place of comfort in sheol (http://bibleforums.org/wiki/Sheol) (Greek: hades (http://bibleforums.org/wiki/Hades_in_Christianity)) where the Jews (http://bibleforums.org/wiki/Jews) said the righteous dead awaited Judgment Day (http://bibleforums.org/wiki/Judgment_Day). The phrase "Bosom of Abraham" occurs in the Bible only in the New Testament (http://bibleforums.org/wiki/New_Testament) in Luke 16:22-23 (http://bibref.hebtools.com/?book=%20Luke&verse=16:22-23&src=KJV) in Jesus (http://bibleforums.org/wiki/Jesus)' story of Lazarus and the Rich Man (http://bibleforums.org/wiki/Lazarus_and_Dives).
The phrase likely arose either from the concept of comfort which is afforded by being held next to the bosom (chest) (See Isaiah 40:11 (http://bibref.hebtools.com/?book=%20Isaiah&verse=40:11&src=KJV) ) and the common belief that Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob would greet new entrants into heaven (See Matthew 8:11 (http://bibref.hebtools.com/?book=%20Matthew&verse=8:11&src=KJV) ), or the Second Temple period (http://bibleforums.org/wiki/Second_Temple_period) practice of reclining and eating meals in proximity to other guests, the closest of whom physically was said to lie on the bosom (chest) of the host. (See John 13:23 (http://bibref.hebtools.com/?book=%20John&verse=13:23&src=KJV) )
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraham's_bosom

cajunman4life
Apr 11th 2009, 07:47 PM
The phrase "Bosom of Abraham" refers to the place of comfort in sheol (http://bibleforums.org/wiki/Sheol) (Greek: hades (http://bibleforums.org/wiki/Hades_in_Christianity)) where the Jews (http://bibleforums.org/wiki/Jews) said the righteous dead awaited Judgment Day (http://bibleforums.org/wiki/Judgment_Day). The phrase "Bosom of Abraham" occurs in the Bible only in the New Testament (http://bibleforums.org/wiki/New_Testament) in Luke 16:22-23 (http://bibref.hebtools.com/?book=%20Luke&verse=16:22-23&src=KJV) in Jesus (http://bibleforums.org/wiki/Jesus)' story of Lazarus and the Rich Man (http://bibleforums.org/wiki/Lazarus_and_Dives).
The phrase likely arose either from the concept of comfort which is afforded by being held next to the bosom (chest) (See Isaiah 40:11 (http://bibref.hebtools.com/?book=%20Isaiah&verse=40:11&src=KJV) ) and the common belief that Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob would greet new entrants into heaven (See Matthew 8:11 (http://bibref.hebtools.com/?book=%20Matthew&verse=8:11&src=KJV) ), or the Second Temple period (http://bibleforums.org/wiki/Second_Temple_period) practice of reclining and eating meals in proximity to other guests, the closest of whom physically was said to lie on the bosom (chest) of the host. (See John 13:23 (http://bibref.hebtools.com/?book=%20John&verse=13:23&src=KJV) )
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraham's_bosom

From the same article:
Christian heaven

Eastern Orthodox icon of All Saints, c. 1700. Christ is enthroned in heaven surrounded by the ranks of angels and saints. At the bottom is Paradise with the "Bosom of Abraham" (left), and the Good Thief (right). (Private collection.)

Among Christian writers, since the 1st century AD, "the Bosom of Abraham" has gradually ceased to designate a place of imperfect happiness, and it has generally become synonymous with Heaven itself, or the Intermediate state.[citation needed] Church fathers sometimes used the term to mean the limbo of the fathers, the abode of the righteous who died before Christ and who were not admitted to heaven until his resurrection. Sometimes they mean Heaven[citation needed], into which the just of the New Covenant are immediately introduced upon their demise. Tertullian, on the other hand, described the bosom of Abraham as that section of Hades in which the righteous dead await the day of the Lord.[3]

When Christians pray that the angels may carry the soul of the departed to "Abraham's Bosom", non-Orthodox Christians might mean it as heaven; as it is taught in the West that those in the Limbo of the Fathers went to heaven after the Ascension of Jesus, and so Abraham himself is now in heaven. However, the understanding of both Eastern Orthodoxy and Oriental Orthodoxy preserves the Bosom of Abraham as distinct from heaven.

Elijah's Mantle
Apr 12th 2009, 12:55 AM
:bounce:I guess it is no secret that (he) is a favorite Biblical Character , of mine .

Good thread :pp

crossnote
Apr 12th 2009, 06:00 AM
So then, where did Elijah go?

UP...but not by His own power whereas the Son went UP by His own power. That is the difference.

No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father.
(Joh 10:18)

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