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paradiseinn
Apr 21st 2009, 08:56 PM
Murder is one of the Commandments, now we know that there are people here that kill bugs that come in their houses. People hunt for food and for sport. The commandment says "do not kill", but we know we all have killed something in our lifetimes. Does do not kill mean exactly that? Shouldn't we respect all life?

keck553
Apr 21st 2009, 11:23 PM
Murder is one of the Commandments, now we know that there are people here that kill bugs that come in their houses. People hunt for food and for sport. The commandment says "do not kill", but we know we all have killed something in our lifetimes. Does do not kill mean exactly that? Shouldn't we respect all life?

Deu 5:17
(17)לא תרצח׃
Deu 5:17
(17) You shall not commit murder.

תרצח׃ = retsach
In Hebrew culture and insight, teh word 'retsach' applies to illegal killing of a human being. The word is never used Biblically in reference to the administration of justice or killing in a war. Unfortuately the scribes who translated the KJV overlooked the Hebraic context and meaning.

The Jewish sages also applied this term to slander, gossip and shaming someone in public, extending the physical act to intent. Later verified by God Himself - Jesus' later teaching about the guilt of murder being simply an attitude or heart condition.

tt1106
Apr 21st 2009, 11:32 PM
Murder is one of the Commandments, now we know that there are people here that kill bugs that come in their houses. People hunt for food and for sport. The commandment says "do not kill", but we know we all have killed something in our lifetimes. Does do not kill mean exactly that? Shouldn't we respect all life?

Wouldn't this rule out sacrifices then? God is talking about Human beings and the taking of a life with malice and aforethought.

keck553
Apr 21st 2009, 11:52 PM
At issue here is the poor translation in King James.

paradiseinn
Apr 21st 2009, 11:58 PM
What about hunters who kill for sport, wouldn't that be a sin?

tt1106
Apr 22nd 2009, 12:35 AM
What about hunters who kill for sport, wouldn't that be a sin?

Do you feel especially convicted about it?:)

apothanein kerdos
Apr 22nd 2009, 12:57 AM
It deals with not murdering humans. It says nothing of animals. The context of the commandments all deal with actions against God or humans. Jesus confirms them when He lumps the commandments into two categories: Love of God and love of neighbor. Animals don't qualify.

paradiseinn
Apr 22nd 2009, 07:35 AM
Do you feel especially convicted about it?:)

Yes, if a hunter just kills for sport, then it would be a waste. pointless killing

paradiseinn
Apr 22nd 2009, 07:38 AM
It deals with not murdering humans. It says nothing of animals. The context of the commandments all deal with actions against God or humans. Jesus confirms them when He lumps the commandments into two categories: Love of God and love of neighbor. Animals don't qualify.

True, God know our heart and why we make the choices that we do. We can't hide anything from the Lord Almighty, Can I get a Amen!:)

Slug1
Apr 22nd 2009, 12:37 PM
Killing is a necessity and God used it many times Himself and commanded man to kill for Him as well. If killing was a sin, what kind of God do we all serve? Kinda hypocritical?

Murder is sin for a very simple reason, when killing isn't necessary it's wrong, thus sin and a Commandment not to do. Killing serves purpose as it is used to not only further and protect God's purposes but used to protect us all as well.

Murder however, is satan's tool to thwart God's purposes... WWII is a good recent example. satan used Hilter to systimatically destroy the Jewish people. God raised up a force of men to stop this attempt by satan to thwart God's plans.

dan
Apr 25th 2009, 11:55 AM
Yes, if a hunter just kills for sport, then it would be a waste. pointless killing

When deer get to be a certain age they are no longer useful for breeding stock. Trophy hunters try to take them out of the herd for the size of their antlers and are helping the herd when they succeed, by allowing younger bucks to take their place.

Food hunters help the herd by reducing it's size, overall. This insures the habitat will not be degraded by an overly large herd, as happened in the early days of the Grand Canyon National Park.

Predator hunters help the herd by allowing newborn fawns a better survival rate, and reducing human injury and death by predator overload.

Conservation works!

crossnote
Apr 26th 2009, 05:35 AM
Let's put the animal/insect. question to rest and stay on humans

And [Peter] saw heaven opened, and a certain vessel descending unto him, as it had been a great sheet knit at the four corners, and let down to the earth: Wherein were all manner of fourfooted beasts of the earth, and wild beasts, and creeping things, and fowls of the air. And there came a voice to him, Rise, Peter; kill, and eat.
(Act 10:11-13)

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