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Firstfruits
Apr 27th 2009, 08:03 PM
With regards to the following scripture can we trust the leading of the Holy Ghost?

Acts 15:28 (http://bibledatabase.org/cgi-bin/bib_search/bible.cgi?BIBLE=48&BOOK=44&CHAP=15&SEARCH=jesus king lord&Read=Read&FIRST=OK&HV=28) For it seemed good to the Holy Ghost, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things;
Acts 15:29 (http://bibledatabase.org/cgi-bin/bib_search/bible.cgi?BIBLE=48&BOOK=44&CHAP=15&SEARCH=jesus king lord&Read=Read&FIRST=OK&HV=29) That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well.

God bless you!

Firstfruits

Teke
Apr 27th 2009, 08:12 PM
I don't know what else we would trust except God by His Holy Spirit. As we sing in my church, from Psalm 146,
"Put not your trust in princes nor sons of men, in whom there is no salvation"

keck553
Apr 27th 2009, 08:15 PM
Probably would be profitable to know what 'spirit' is leading you first.

SIG
Apr 27th 2009, 09:50 PM
Perhaps a better question would be: "Can we trust in ourselves?"

*Hope*
Apr 28th 2009, 02:06 AM
With regards to the following scripture can we trust the leading of the Holy Ghost?

Acts 15:28 (http://bibledatabase.org/cgi-bin/bib_search/bible.cgi?BIBLE=48&BOOK=44&CHAP=15&SEARCH=jesus%20king%20lord&Read=Read&FIRST=OK&HV=28) For it seemed good to the Holy Ghost, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things;
Acts 15:29 (http://bibledatabase.org/cgi-bin/bib_search/bible.cgi?BIBLE=48&BOOK=44&CHAP=15&SEARCH=jesus%20king%20lord&Read=Read&FIRST=OK&HV=29) That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well.

God bless you!

Firstfruits

Of course the Holy Spirit can be trusted, He is God after all. The problem is, many times people mistake their own desires (or other spirits) as the Holy Spirit. Anytime we feel "led" by the Spirit we should check to make sure it lines up with Scripture first.

OldChurchGuy
Apr 28th 2009, 02:47 AM
Of course the Holy Spirit can be trusted, He is God after all. The problem is, many times people mistake their own desires (or other spirits) as the Holy Spirit. Anytime we feel "led" by the Spirit we should check to make sure it lines up with Scripture first.

Good point. It does raise a question though. Since the Bible never says anything prohibiting slavery were those Christians in 18th and 19th century America who opposed slavery led by either by their own desires or other spirits?

Sincerely,

OldChurchGuy

*Hope*
Apr 28th 2009, 02:52 AM
Good point. It does raise a question though. Since the Bible never says anything prohibiting slavery were those Christians in 18th and 19th century America who opposed slavery led by either by their own desires or other spirits?

Sincerely,

OldChurchGuy

That's a whole other topic :)

Essentially though, Scripture is often distorted to suit personal agendas. This is why the Bible can't be taken prima facie. While the gospel message may be "simple", rightly dividing the word takes a lot of devotion and personal study to understand and apply correctly.

kay-gee
Apr 28th 2009, 02:54 AM
Sure, as long as one understands that The Spirit will never ever contradict scripture!

all the best...

bagofseed
Apr 28th 2009, 04:09 AM
My scriptures say lean not on your own understanding.

So I am to trust in Him even when I don't understand.

I can trust in Him even if I don't have a copy of the scriptures.

I can trust in God to save me when all I have is God to save me!

But many "Christians" who have the written word of God still don't trust Him, so as to live their lives for Him.

In many ways I still don't trust, still don't believe, or even know Him.
If I did my life would be amazingly different.
If I truly believed I would live the life of Jesus.

If we all truly believe we would no longer have need for anyone to teach us how to live.

crossnote
Apr 28th 2009, 05:32 AM
If we are His, God's Spirit leads us whether we like it or not.

Verily, verily, I say unto thee, When thou wast young, thou girdedst thyself, and walkedst whither thou wouldest: but when thou shalt be old, thou shalt stretch forth thy hands, and another shall gird thee, and carry thee whither thou wouldest not.
(Joh 21:18)

See, no one asked if the 'leading' was in an active or passive mood.

Firstfruits
Apr 28th 2009, 07:54 AM
Probably would be profitable to know what 'spirit' is leading you first.

So did the Disciples not know who they were following when they wrote the following to us?

Acts 15:28 (http://bibledatabase.org/cgi-bin/bib_search/bible.cgi?BIBLE=48&BOOK=44&CHAP=15&SEARCH=jesus king lord&Read=Read&FIRST=OK&HV=28) For it seemed good to the Holy Ghost, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things;
Acts 15:29 (http://bibledatabase.org/cgi-bin/bib_search/bible.cgi?BIBLE=48&BOOK=44&CHAP=15&SEARCH=jesus king lord&Read=Read&FIRST=OK&HV=29) That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well.

Did the Disciples trust the Holy Spirit?

God bless you!

Firstfruits

Firstfruits
Apr 28th 2009, 07:55 AM
Perhaps a better question would be: "Can we trust in ourselves?"

Why should we trust man above the Spirit of God?

God bless you!

Firstfruits

Firstfruits
Apr 28th 2009, 07:57 AM
Of course the Holy Spirit can be trusted, He is God after all. The problem is, many times people mistake their own desires (or other spirits) as the Holy Spirit. Anytime we feel "led" by the Spirit we should check to make sure it lines up with Scripture first.

So if we follow as it is written in this scripture, do we do well?

Acts 15:28 (http://bibledatabase.org/cgi-bin/bib_search/bible.cgi?BIBLE=48&BOOK=44&CHAP=15&SEARCH=jesus%20king%20lord&Read=Read&FIRST=OK&HV=28) For it seemed good to the Holy Ghost, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things;
Acts 15:29 (http://bibledatabase.org/cgi-bin/bib_search/bible.cgi?BIBLE=48&BOOK=44&CHAP=15&SEARCH=jesus%20king%20lord&Read=Read&FIRST=OK&HV=29) That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well.

God bless you!

Firstfruits

Firstfruits
Apr 28th 2009, 07:59 AM
Good point. It does raise a question though. Since the Bible never says anything prohibiting slavery were those Christians in 18th and 19th century America who opposed slavery led by either by their own desires or other spirits?

Sincerely,

OldChurchGuy

Can we trust what the Holy Spirit and Christs Disciples have given us to live by?

Acts 15:28 (http://bibledatabase.org/cgi-bin/bib_search/bible.cgi?BIBLE=48&BOOK=44&CHAP=15&SEARCH=jesus%20king%20lord&Read=Read&FIRST=OK&HV=28) For it seemed good to the Holy Ghost, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things;
Acts 15:29 (http://bibledatabase.org/cgi-bin/bib_search/bible.cgi?BIBLE=48&BOOK=44&CHAP=15&SEARCH=jesus%20king%20lord&Read=Read&FIRST=OK&HV=29) That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well.

God bless you!

Firstfruits

Firstfruits
Apr 28th 2009, 08:03 AM
My scriptures say lean not on your own understanding.

So I am to trust in Him even when I don't understand.

I can trust in Him even if I don't have a copy of the scriptures.

I can trust in God to save me when all I have is God to save me!

But many "Christians" who have the written word of God still don't trust Him, so as to live their lives for Him.

In many ways I still don't trust, still don't believe, or even know Him.
If I did my life would be amazingly different.
If I truly believed I would live the life of Jesus.

If we all truly believe we would no longer have need for anyone to teach us how to live.

'If we all truly believe we would no longer have need for anyone to teach us how to live.'

If we cannot trust the Spirit of God then whom can we trust?

Firstfruits

Firstfruits
Apr 28th 2009, 08:07 AM
If we are His, God's Spirit leads us whether we like it or not.

Verily, verily, I say unto thee, When thou wast young, thou girdedst thyself, and walkedst whither thou wouldest: but when thou shalt be old, thou shalt stretch forth thy hands, and another shall gird thee, and carry thee whither thou wouldest not.
(Joh 21:18)

See, no one asked if the 'leading' was in an active or passive mood.


That would mean that we trust in His leading, for if the sheep does not know the shepherd they will not follow him.

God bless you!

Firstfruits

bagofseed
Apr 28th 2009, 08:10 AM
'If we all truly believe we would no longer have need for anyone to teach us how to live.'

If we cannot trust the Spirit of God then whom can we trust?

Firstfruits
Exactly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Teke
Apr 28th 2009, 02:27 PM
If we are His, God's Spirit leads us whether we like it or not.

This is the truth. Because He is faithful even when we are not. :saint:


Verily, verily, I say unto thee, When thou wast young, thou girdedst thyself, and walkedst whither thou wouldest: but when thou shalt be old, thou shalt stretch forth thy hands, and another shall gird thee, and carry thee whither thou wouldest not.
(Joh 21:18)

See, no one asked if the 'leading' was in an active or passive mood.


Indeed it's both. I've given the illustration of hanging on a cross (in which another girds thee and carries "thee whither thou wouldest not") to try and relate this same concept.

Firstfruits
Apr 29th 2009, 12:05 PM
According to what is written, it is by the Holy Spirit by which we know that Jesus is Lord, and that it is by the gospel that we are sealed by the Holy Spirit.

1 Cor 12:3 (http://bibledatabase.org/cgi-bin/bib_search/bible.cgi?BIBLE=48&BOOK=46&CHAP=12&SEARCH=jesus king lord&Read=Read&FIRST=OK&HV=3) Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.

Eph 1:13 (http://bibledatabase.org/cgi-bin/bib_search/bible.cgi?BIBLE=48&BOOK=49&CHAP=1&SEARCH=jesus king lord&Read=Read&FIRST=OK&HV=13) In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,

Thank God that He keeps His promises.

God bless you!

Firstfruits

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