And there was given to it to give a spirit to the image of the beast, so that the image of the beast might both speak, and might cause as many as would not worship the image of the beast to be killed. (Rev 13:15)

Scientists are very close to creating a transhuman, which will be part human, with super robotic features and maybe mixed with the DNA of animals. Could this be the beast of Revelations? This could be an indication that the Second Coming of Christ is very close - Roelof


The doubling rate of medical knowledge is three years – that is, the next three years of medical research will yield as much knowledge as has been yielded in all of human history. The next three years will double our knowledge again, and again, and so on. This exponential growth in knowledge will rapidly enable us to eradicate disease and radically improve the human condition.

Indeed, we will be able to look beyond curing the sick, towards a future in which we make ourselves more than healthy.
We will be able to enhance our memory and our intellectual capacity. We will use technology to make ourselves faster, more efficient, and radically longer-lived. We will be able to augment our physical strength, stamina, and resistance to disease. We might enhance specific skills, such as visual acuity or musical talent.

In the extreme, we will correct the molecular wear-and-tear that causes deterioration and death – reversing the aging process itself. Humans might even obtain entirely new capacities, such as infrared vision, or bat-like echolocation.

The body of thought that deals with enhancement technologies is called transhumanism. In essence, transhumanists favor using technology to enhance mental and physical human capacities.

For transhumanists, the human species is about to begin a new form of evolution. Instead of biological evolution – slow processes of survival, reproduction, and adaptation over geological time – it will be powered by technologies that will increasingly work their way inwards, radically transforming our bodies and minds.

The power of information technology doubles every year or so, a trend that has held true for over 40 years. At this rate, the price-performance power of computers will increase by a factor of one billion within the next twenty-five years, while shrinking in size by a factor of a thousand. This rapid rate of progress is not limited to computers.

The Human Genome Project relied on the same exponential growth.

http://exceptionmag.com/culture/society/000470/what-transhumanism

I agree, this is absolutely frightening - Roelof

Tens of thousands of samples of human tissue (in the UK) will be offered for use in controversial human/animal hybrid embryo research without the consent of the patients who donated them.

New rules coming into force next month will give scientists working on stem cell research access to samples of blood and tissue collected by NHS hospitals during biopsies and treatments, as well as to giant "tissue banks" which built up stores of material before the legislation was introduced.

Ethics experts, patients' groups and churches described the change as "absolutely frightening" and liable to destroy trust among thousands who donate, whatever their views on the use of hybrid embryos for stem cell research.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/science-news/6179405/Human-tissue-can-be-taken-for-human-animal-embryo-experiements-without-consent.html

If medical knowledge doubles every 3 years, I fear what unethical monsters would be created by DNA manipulation and human-animal embrios - Roelof

In a controversial achievement, Japanese scientists announced on Wednesday they had created the world's first transgenic primates, breeding monkeys with a gene that made the animals' skin glow a fluorescent green.

The exploit opens up exciting prospects for medical researchers, they said.
It could eventually lead to lab monkeys that replicate some of humanity's most devastating diseases, providing a new model for exploring how these disorders are caused and how they may be cured.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=CNG.d980eb8e26167b5a0fce093f6d57dfd 4.161&show_article=1

I hope that reborn Christians would experience the rapture within the next ten years. The Final Antichrist would love to have this model - Roelof

A model that replicates the functions of the human brain is feasible in 10 years according to neuroscientist Professor Henry Markram of the Brain Mind Institute in Switzerland. "I absolutely believe it is technically and biologically possible. The only uncertainty is financial. It is an extremely expensive project and not all is yet secured."

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/09/090904071908.htm

I am an electrical engineer but scientists are pushing research too far - Roelof

A ‘telepathy’ chip that allows people to control computers, televisions and light switches by the power of thought is being developed by British scientists.

The tiny sensor would sit on the surface of the brain, picking up the electrical activity of nerve cells and passing the signal wirelessly to a receiver on the skull.

The signal would then be used to control a cursor on a computer

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1210750/The-telepathy-chip-lets-control-computers-using-power-thought.html#ixzz0RGhwgKob (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1210750/The-telepathy-chip-lets-control-computers-using-power-thought.html#ixzz0RGhwgKob)

Jesus Christ will put an end to this ridiculous race with His not too far away Second Coming - Roelof

Some futurists such as Ray Kurzweil have hypothesized that we will someday soon pass through a singularity--that is, a time period of rapid technological change beyond which we cannot envision the future of society. Most visions of this singularity focus on the creation of machines intelligent enough to devise machines even more intelligent than themselves, and so forth recursively, thus launching a positive feedback loop of intelligence amplification.

As a brain engineer, however, I think that focusing solely on intelligence augmentation as the driver of the future is leaving out a critical part of the analysis--namely, the changes in motivation that might arise as intelligence amplifies. Call it the need for "machine leadership skills" or "machine philosophy"--without it, such a feedback loop might quickly sputter out.

Indeed, a really advanced intelligence, improperly motivated, might realize the impermanence of all things, calculate that the sun will burn out in a few billion years, and decide to play video games for the remainder of its existence, concluding that inventing an even smarter machine is pointless.

Very interesting article, please open up for more - Roelof

http://www.technologyreview.com/biomedicine/23354/

Events are fast pushing Israel toward a pre-emptive military strike on Iran's nuclear facilities, probably by next spring. That strike could well fail. Or it could succeed at the price of oil at $300 a barrel, a Middle East war, and American servicemen caught in between. So why is the Obama administration doing everything it can to speed the war process along?

At July's G-8 summit in Italy, Iran was given a September deadline to start negotiations over its nuclear programs. Last week, Iran gave its answer: No.

Instead, what Tehran offered was a five-page document that was the diplomatic equivalent of a giant kiss-off.

And the longer the U.S. delays playing hardball with Iran, the sooner Israel is likely to strike.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203917304574410672271269390.html

JERUSALEM — Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu warned Lebanon on Sunday that Israel "will not hold back" when attacked and holds the Lebanese government responsible for any assault on his country.
Netanyahu delivered the warning after two rockets fired from Lebanon struck northern Israel on Friday. Israel responded immediately with artillery fire, and the exchange ratcheted up persisting tensions between the two countries.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jfeA0_oDnnBrxZNhobkGhwBMAD7gD9AMDO5G0

Look beyond the recession towards the Return of Christ - Roelof

Both bank credit and the M3 money supply in the United States have been contracting at rates comparable to the onset of the Great Depression since early summer, raising fears of a double-dip recession in 2010 and a slide into debt-deflation.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/financetopics/recession/6190818/US-credit-shrinks-at-Great-Depression-rate-prompting-fears-of-double-dip-recession.html

The Lord will not leave the sins of abortion and gay laws unpunished - Roelof

LONDON – A weakened United States could start retreating from the world stage without help from its allies abroad, an international strategic affairs think tank said Tuesday.

The respected London-based International Institute for Strategic Studies said President Barack Obama will increasingly have to turn to others for help dealing with the world's problems — in part because he has no alternative.

"Domestically Obama may have campaigned on the theme 'yes we can'; internationally he may increasingly have to argue 'no we can't'," the institute said in its annual review of world affairs.

The report said the U.S. struggles against insurgent groups in Iraq and Afghanistan had exposed the limits of the country's military muscle, while the near-collapse of the world financial markets sapped the economic base on which that muscle relied.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090915/ap_on_re_eu/eu_britain_us_power

The federal deficit surged higher into record territory in August, hitting $1.38 trillion with one month left in the budget year.
Soaring deficits have raised worries about the willingness of foreigners to keep purchasing Treasury debt.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/sep/12/us-deficit-hit-138-trillion-through-august/?source=newsletter_must-read-stories-today_more_news_carousel

The scriptures used for what is called the rapture tell us that it takes place at the last trumpet;

1 Cor 15:52 (http://bibledatabase.org/cgi-bin/bib_search/bible.cgi?BIBLE=48&BOOK=46&CHAP=15&SEARCH=jesus%20king%20lord&Read=Read&FIRST=OK&HV=52) In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

The last trumpet according to what is written is also known as the third woe/tribulation, the last of three tribulations. How then can the rapture take place before the tribulation?

Jesus said that his return is after the tribulation;

Mt 24:29 (http://bibledatabase.org/cgi-bin/bib_search/bible.cgi?BIBLE=48&BOOK=40&CHAP=24&SEARCH=jesus%20king%20lord&Read=Read&FIRST=OK&HV=29) Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
Mt 24:30 (http://bibledatabase.org/cgi-bin/bib_search/bible.cgi?BIBLE=48&BOOK=40&CHAP=24&SEARCH=jesus%20king%20lord&Read=Read&FIRST=OK&HV=30) And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
Mt 24:31 (http://bibledatabase.org/cgi-bin/bib_search/bible.cgi?BIBLE=48&BOOK=40&CHAP=24&SEARCH=jesus%20king%20lord&Read=Read&FIRST=OK&HV=31) And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

If the rapture takes place at the last trumpet then how can the 7th trumpet be when Christ returns after the tribulation, unless there is more than one last trumpet?

So, is there more that one last trumpet according to the scriptures?

What are the scriptures used for the second coming of Christ?

God bless you!

Firstfruits


THis is a common area of discussion. IS the Last Trump referring to the 7 Trumpet Judgements? (And they are in my opinion, judgements make no mistake there) Or is it referring to a different trumpet? We know they used trumpets in the temple, and in battle, and there was even a Feast of "Trumpets", ordained by God in the OT. Also, as I understand it in the Jewish wedding it was customary to blow a trumpet or horn before the bridge groom left to gather his bride to him, and typically the bride groom would not know the day or the hour either.

It is my opinion that the symbolism in the Feast of Trumpets, and the wedding ceremony that is key in understanding when the Last Trumpet is, but not everyone believes or understands passages like that. It is certainly worthy discussing. You can never go wrong in digging into the word even if in the end you still find yourself believing the same things.

New World Order - The New Illuminati

Clem Sunter

Clem is a highly respected strategist in SA - Roelof

One of the characteristics ascribed to the shadowy group of Illuminati members, who meet once a month to decide how they are going to control the world, is immense wealth. The other is influence over governments and the media that borders on domination

Take wealth for starters. In 2007 before the crash, two of the highest paid CEOs in the world were an American and British banker, each one of whom was paid nearly half a billion rand (US75 million) for one year's work

Let's now turn to government. For me it is amazing that no action has been taken against any bank for reckless trading, even though depositors' money was being used to buy derivatives which turned out to be devoid of value.

The recent G20 meeting kicked any idea of a claw-back provision for future misdemeanours of this nature into touch. Bankrupting the bank still incurs no penalty whatsoever.

But it's the behaviour of the overseas financial media that convinces me that there is something fishy going on. The line taken is that bankers in no way could have prepared for this once-in-a-century event. Indeed, it wasn't foreseeable.

So there you have it. They probably don't meet secretly in locations worthy of a James Bond novel. Nor are they really worthy of the appellation "Illuminati" which is Latin for "The Enlightened". Yet they have the power, they have the money and they have the connections. That's why I call them the New Illuminati.

http://www.news24.com/Content/Columnists/ClemSunter/1329/f30f3585ba1141439e3b9d7111425584/16-09-2009-09-41/The_New_Illuminati

Astronomers have confirmed that a planet orbiting a distant star has a rocky structure similar to that of Earth, a find that shortens the odds on extraterrestrial life being discovered.

New observations of a planet named Corot-7b, which circles a star 500 light years away in the constellation Monoceros, or the Unicorn, have shown that its density is similar to the Earth’s, indicating that it is also a solid, rocky world.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/science/article6836919.ece

According to Ez 38, at the battle of Gog and Magog, Iran and Russia will attack Israel - Roelof

The mystery of the hijacked cargo ship allegedly carrying missiles to Iran deepened yesterday when it emerged that, far from limping back to a Russian port as the Kremlin had claimed, the vessel had been cruising around the Canary Islands.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article6837581.ece

Israel launched a diplomatic offensive today in an attempt to discredit a damning UN report that accuses it of committing war crimes during the Gaza offensive.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article6837036.ece

A day after the release of the scathing Goldstone Commission report that accused Israel of war crimes, Jerusalem on Wednesday revealed its defensive strategy: convince the world's democracies the report handcuffs them in their fight against terrorism, and keep discussion of the document confined to the Human Rights Council in Geneva.

Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu, who on Wednesday termed the report a "prize for terrorists" that makes it more difficult for democratic countries to combat them, will be speaking in the coming days to a list of prime ministers of countries represented on the Human Rights Council, lobbying them to oppose any resolution adopting the findings of the report.

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1251804590583&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

How long will the US remain a military superpower? - Roelof

MOSCOW (Reuters) - Washington hopes that by backing away from an anti-missile system in east Europe, it will get Russian cooperation on everything from nuclear weapons cuts to efforts to curb Iran (http://bibleforums.org/news/globalcoverage/iran)ian and North Korean nuclear ambitions.

But will Moscow keep its side of the bargain?

The U.S. move on the shield -- due to be announced later on Thursday but already flagged by Czech and Polish officials -- removes at a stroke the biggest outstanding obstacle to bilateral relations between the former superpowers and will be hailed by the Kremlin as a big victory

http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUKTRE58G1YX20090917

I will say of Jehovah, my refuge and my fortress; my God; in Him I will trust. (Psa 91:2)

Death rates are nearly 40 percent higher for cancer patients diagnosed with major or minor depression, according to University of British Columbia researchers who surveyed more than two dozen international clinical studies

http://www.reuters.com/article/scienceNews/idUSTRE58D4T920090914

US President Barack Obama has decided to scrap plans for a US missile defense shield in the Czech Republic and Poland that had deeply angered Russia, the Czech prime minister confirmed Thursday.

NATO's new chief hailed the move as "a positive step" and a Russian analyst said the move will increase the chances that Russia will cooperate more closely with the United States in the dispute over Iran's nuclear program

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1251804592027&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

The religious affiliation of Israeli Jews varies widely: 55% say they are "traditional," while 20% consider themselves "secular Jews," 17% define themselves as "Orthodox Jews (http://bibleforums.org/wiki/Orthodox_Judaism)"; the final 8% define themselves as "Haredi (http://bibleforums.org/wiki/Haredi_Judaism) Jews."


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1e/Bahai_Terraces.jpg/140px-Bahai_Terraces.jpg (http://bibleforums.org/wiki/File:Bahai_Terraces.jpg) [/URL]
Shrine of the Báb (http://bibleforums.org/wiki/File:Bahai_Terraces.jpg) in Haifa

Making up 16% of the population, Muslims (http://bibleforums.org/wiki/Muslim) constitute Israel's largest religious minority. About 2% of the population are Christian (http://bibleforums.org/wiki/Christian) and 1.5% are Druze (http://bibleforums.org/wiki/Druze). Members of many other religious groups, including Buddhists (http://bibleforums.org/wiki/Buddhist) and Hindus (http://bibleforums.org/wiki/Hindu), maintain a presence in Israel, albeit in small numbers. The Christian (http://bibleforums.org/wiki/Christian) population includes both Arab Christians (http://bibleforums.org/wiki/Arab_Christian) and Messianic Jews (http://bibleforums.org/wiki/Messianic_Jews).

[URL]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel

Son of man, set your face against Gog, the land of Magog, the chief ruler of Rosh, Meshech, and Tubal, and prophesy against him. (Eze 38:2)

And I will turn you back, and put hooks into your jaws, and I will bring you out, and all your army, horses and horsemen, all of them clothed most perfectly, a great assembly with buckler and shield, all of them swordsmen; (Eze 38:4)

And he gathered them into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon. (Rev 16:16)

At the recent International Prophesy Conference in the US, it was mentioned that there is a high probability that Israel will attack her close Muslim neighbors and take over there land.

Much later the war of Eze 38 might happen, which might involve Russia and more distant neigbors.

At the end of the Great Tribulation, the final war at Armageddon will happen, when Jesus will beat the armies of the Antichrist.

After Armageddon, Lord Jesus Christ will reign forever!!!


http://i683.photobucket.com/albums/vv195/Roelof_bucket/Israel-map-Carta.jpg

Jerusalem - Israel said on Thursday it had concrete information of plans by the same group that carried out the 2008 Mumbai attacks to hit Western and Israeli targets in India.

"The terrorist group that carried out the serious Mumbai attack in India is planning to carry out a number of attacks across India, particularly against concentrations of Western or Israeli tourists," warned a statement from Israel's counterterrorism unit.

http://www.news24.com/Content/World/News/1073/4032b1145b6b4f108e743d71272e87f6/17-09-2009-10-05/Israel_warns_of_India_attacks

Barack Obama took a massive foreign policy gamble yesterday when he scrapped plans for a missile defence shield in Eastern Europe — a major concession to Russia.

The decision to shelve the Bush-era plan for a “Star Wars” defence system was denounced by Republicans as appeasing Moscow and caused dismay among former Soviet satellites

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article6839310.ece

The new shield will be a far more effective means of protecting American interests at home and abroad from the threat now posed by Iran’s missiles, experts said yesterday.

Two years ago, the US State Department warned that Iran could have a missile capable of reaching American shores by 2015. It now seems that threat was overplayed. Instead, Tehran’s priorities have been to develop its medium and short-range arsenal, bringing targets in the Middle East, Southeast Europe and Turkey within reach.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article6839142.ece

Israel needs to make every effort to stop the S-300 missile defense system from reaching countries where the air force may need to fly, IAF commander Maj.-Gen. Ido Nehushtan has told The Jerusalem Post in an exclusive interview.

"The S-300 is a Russian-made surface-to-air missile system that is very advanced, with long ranges and many capabilities," Nehushtan told the Post in the interview, which appears in our Friday Magazine.

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1253198148610&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

Can we believe Iran? Iran often said they want to wipe Israel from the map - Roelof

http://static.jpost.com/images/2004/site/jplogo.230.gif (http://www.jpost.com/)
Hours after AP published a secret IAEA report claiming Iran is on the way to developing a missile system able to carry an atomic warhead, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad on Thursday said his country has no need for nuclear weapons, but refrained from explicitly ruling out that Teheran would acquire such arms.

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1253198149651&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

Experts at the IAEA are in agreement that Teheran has the ability to make a nuclear bomb and is on the way to developing a missile system able to carry an atomic warhead, according to a secret report seen by The Associated Press on Thursday.

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1253198148598&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

http://static.jpost.com/images/2004/site/jplogo.230.gif (http://www.jpost.com/)

There is no need to be alarmed by US President Barack Obama's decision to terminate the previous administration's plans to build a missile defense system in Eastern Europe, Israel Space Agency Chairman and former Kadima MK Prof. Isaac Ben-Israel told The Jerusalem Post on Thursday.

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1253198148727&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

Today is Rosh Hashana , the Biblical New Year. Last year on this date the stock market fell 777 points for the greatest one day crash. Then it blew apart on the following Biblical feasts. Let's see what happens this year. The UN will be meeting the next two weeks and one issue is dividing Israel.

You can feel the events in the Middle East heating up. War and judgment is in the air. Iran now has the nuclear material to make a bomb. The window for Israel is closing. When Israel attacks Iran, the world will change forever.

http://johnmcternansinsights.blogspot.com/

This shows the rejection of the Lord in the US. The Lord will punish the country for the rejection - Roelof

http://media.washingtontimes.com/media/img/TWTlogo.gif (http://bibleforums.org/)

Two Florida school officials facing possible jail terms for praying in the presence of students arrive in court Thursday enjoying the support of more than 60 members of Congress.

Some of those members, who signed a letter of support and sent it to the two school officials Monday, took to the House floor Tuesday night to denounce what they called a "criminalization of prayer" that "tramples on the First Amendment rights" of Christians.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/sep/17/lawmakers-back-school-prayer-leaders-on-trial/?source=newsletter_must-read-stories-today_headlines

THE FRUIT OF THE HOLY SPIRIT & THE WORKS OF THE FLESH


If you are a reborn Christian, the Holy Spirit lives in you, the Fruit of the Holy Spirit will be clearly visible in your live.

If you are not a reborn Christian, the Holy Spirit will not live in you and the Works of the Flesh will be visible in your live.

FRUIT OF THE SPIRIT:


But the fruit of the Spirit is:

love,
joy,
peace,
long-suffering,
kindness,
goodness,
faith, (Gal 5:22)
meekness, (showing mildness or quietness of nature)
self-control;
against such things there is no law. (Gal 5:23)


WORKS OF THE FLESH:


Now the works of the flesh are clearly revealed, which are:

adultery, (voluntary sexual relations between a married person and somebody other than his or her spouse)
fornication, (sexual intercourse between two consenting adults who are not married to each other)
uncleanness,
lustfulness, (Gal 5:19)
idolatry, (the worship of idols or false gods; excessive admiration or love shown for somebody or something)
sorcery, (the supposed use of magic)
hatreds,
fightings,
jealousies,
angers,
rivalries,
divisions,
heresies, (Gal 5:20) (an opinion or belief that contradicts established religious teaching, especially one that is officially condemned by a religious authority)
envyings,
murders,
drunkennesses,
revelings, (to have an enjoyable time in the company of others, especially at a party)
and things like these; of which I tell you before, as I also said before, that they who do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. (Gal 5:21)

The dollar may extend its decline after sliding to the weakest level versus the euro in almost a year as an increase in America’s industrial output encouraged investors to shift funds to higher-yielding assets.

The dollar changed hands at $1.4713 per euro at 6:04 a.m. in Tokyo

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aABBJcLqBQ9E

In the rare moments when it's not preoccupied with the decline of U.S. President Barack Obama in the polls and with the debate over its government's proposed health-care reforms, the American press continues to deal almost obsessively with another pressing issue: the deadlock in efforts to stop Iran's nuclear program and the growing likelihood that the endgame will be an Israeli attack on Iran's nuclear facilities.

In the past few weeks alone, an editorial in The Wall Street Journal warned the president that the United States must put a quick halt to the Iranian nuclear program, because otherwise Israel will bomb the facilities.

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1113816.html

http://static.jpost.com/images/2004/site/jplogo.230.gif (http://www.jpost.com/)
After Paris warned that new sanctions against Teheran remained an option despite the likelihood of negotiations with Iran, French President Nicolas Sarkozy maintained that the Islamic republic was still working on a nuclear weapons program.

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1251804582184&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

Dangerous because it will inevitably go too far and could take down banks and banking systems globally.

If and when China makes its currency convertible and opens its financial system the stage will be set for a bubble that should make the dotcom and housing booms look tame.

China has recently signaled its key aspirations: for a greater international role for the renminbi and for Shanghai to become a great financial capital. Neither is imminent, but both imply, if not require, a series of steps that, taken in combination with China's legitimately great potential for growth, could lead to a bubble of magnificent and dangerous proportions.

http://www.moneyweb.co.za/mw/view/mw/en/page292681?oid=318705&sn=2009 Detail no image&pid=287226

The most recent stop on America’s surrender tour came yesterday, when President Obama scrapped plans for a missile defense shield in Eastern Europe. The original plan, established by President Bush in 2007, was designed to protect America’s European allies against the threat of an Iranian missile attack. In defending the latest policy of appeasement, Defense Secretary Robert Gates said that Iran’s long-range missile threat is “not as immediate” as the United States once thought.

Yet, in April, two months after Iran launched a satellite into space, it successfully launched (http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=bd2_1242832725) its Sejil-2 missile, which has a range of about 1,200 miles—meaning the outskirts of Europe is now well within reach (http://www.globalpolitician.com/25640-ncri-mek-pmoi-iran) of the world’s number-one state sponsor of terror. It’s difficult to imagine a threat being any more immediate than that.

International Atomic Energy Agency which says Iran now has the ability to make a nuclear bomb

http://www.thetrumpet.com/index.php?q=6554.5035.0.0


Map of Iran


http://i683.photobucket.com/albums/vv195/Roelof_bucket/Iran_svg.png

Global regulation will put Europe, not the U.S., in the lead.

US. President Barack Obama (http://www.whitehouse.gov/the_press_office/Remarks-by-the-President-on-Financial-Rescue-and-Reform-at-Federal-Hall/) says he wants to increase global financial regulation.

In a speech to U.S. finance firms in New York on Monday, he spoke about the need for greater regulation from the government and greater responsibility from business in order to prevent another financial meltdown. “[W]e’re proposing the most ambitious overhaul of the financial regulatory system since the Great Depression,” he said.

But global regulation is not the answer for the United States. At the G-20 summit in London, Europe took the lead in regulating the financial markets. According to draft regulations (http://www.spiegel.de/international/business/0,1518,648107,00.html) obtained by Germany’s Süddeutsche Zeitung, the European Union is poised to set up three powerful supervisory bodies that could intervene when they don’t think national regulatory bodies are doing enough.

The G-20 meeting established the Financial Stability Board (FSB) as the eventual global regulatory body. The FSB is very much under European, and even Vatican, control.

http://www.thetrumpet.com/index.php?q=6548.5028.0.0

(TEHRAN, Iran) — Iran's President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad lashed out at Israel and the West saying Friday the Holocaust was a lie and a pretext for occupying Palestinian lands, while hard-liners attacked a reformist cleric who was marching with the opposition at an anti-government rally in Tehran.

http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1924815,00.html

BRUSSELS (Reuters) - NATO proposed a new era of cooperation with the United States and Russia on Friday, calling for joint work on missile defense systems after Washington scrapped a planned anti-missile system.

Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin described as "correct and brave" President Barack Obama (http://www.reuters.com/news/globalcoverage/barackobama)'s decision to drop the missile shield planned for Europe by predecessor George W. Bush. Russia's NATO envoy welcomed the NATO co-operation proposals

http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSLI21500820090918

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Iran hopes for a new world order

Has Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad won his first diplomatic victory since his disputed re-election last June?

Last Thursday, Tehran presented what it called "an updated package" as the basis for fresh negotiations with the five permanent members of the United Nations Security Council plus Germany (5+1).

The second reason why Ahmadinejad could claim victory is that he has managed to engage the major powers on a range of issues, the very discussion of which could create the impression that Iran is being accepted as a partner in creating "a new global order".

http://www.gulfnews.com/opinion/columns/region/10349209.html (http://www.gulfnews.com/opinion/columns/region/10349209.html)

The United Nations needs to be reformed and plenty of ideas are being floated, but what the international body really needs is selfless dedication to the common good, according to the Holy See's permanent observer.

Archbishop Celestino Migliore talked today with Vatican Radio about bringing the United Nations back to a position of relevance on the international scene.

The Holy See's representative also referred to a world authority capable of addressing the problems of the international community, which Benedict XVI defends in "Caritas in Veritate."

He explained that the encyclical calls for the United Nations as a public authority capable of guaranteeing a social order at the world level.

http://www.zenit.org/article-26883?l=english

The world is not ready yet to use an implanted RFID chip for payments, but the Final Antichrist will enforce it on billions of people. Keep your eyes on the Return of Christ after the Great Tribulation - Roelof


Final Tribulation - Pay with a wave of your hand?

It’s a simple concept, really: You inject a miniature radio frequency identifier the size of a grain of rice between your thumb and forefinger and, with a wave of your hand, unlock doors, turn on lights, start your car or pay for your drinks at an ultrachic nightspot.
The problem is, the whole concept is a little geeky for most of us, nauseating for some, Orwellian for a few and even apocalyptic for a smattering of religious fundamentalists.

The implanted tag — a passive RFID device consisting of a miniature antenna and chip containing a 16-digit identification number — is scanned by an RFID reader. Once verified, the number is used to unlock a database file, be it a medical record or payment information. Depending upon the application, a reader may verify tags at a distance of 4 inches up to about 30 feet (10 m).

The RFID implant has been around for more than 20 years. In its earliest iteration, it provided a convenient way to keep track of dogs, cats and prized racehorses. Few took note or voiced much concern.

Then, in 2002, Applied Digital Solutions (now Digital Angel) of Delray Beach, Fla., deployed to its foreign distributors a beta version of its patented VeriChip technology for human use. Two years later, the VeriChip became the first subcutaneous RFID chip to receive FDA approval as a Class 2 medical device.

Web sites sprouted like mushrooms, accusing VeriChip of being the biblical “mark of the beast” predicted in the Book of Revelations as a foreshadowing of the end of the world.
CEO Scott Silverman was equally vilified as being tied to Satan or, worse, Wall Street. Big Brother was surely coming, though he’d have to get pretty close to read your implant. Claims that the tags cause cancer based on lab rat tests upped the amps of outrage.

My business group is just smart cards, and I never forget that although we make money with smart cards, the bills are paid with mag stripe cards. As backwards and old-fashioned as they are, that is still the bulk of what the transactions are going to be in America for a very long time.”

http://www.ethiopianreview.com/business/566


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even that not any might buy or sell except those having the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of its name. (Rev 13:17)

THE FRUIT OF THE HOLY SPIRIT & THE WORKS OF THE FLESH


If you are a reborn Christian, the Holy Spirit lives in you, the Fruit of the Holy Spirit will be clearly visible in your live.

If you are not a reborn Christian, the Holy Spirit will not live in you and the Works of the Flesh will be visible in your live.

FRUIT OF THE SPIRIT:


But the fruit of the Spirit is:

love,
joy,
peace,
long-suffering,
kindness,
goodness,
faith, (Gal 5:22)
meekness, (showing mildness or quietness of nature)
self-control;

against such things there is no law. (Gal 5:23)


WORKS OF THE FLESH:


Now the works of the flesh are clearly revealed, which are:

adultery, (voluntary sexual relations between a married person and somebody other than his or her spouse)
fornication, (sexual intercourse between two consenting adults who are not married to each other)
uncleanness,
lustfulness, (Gal 5:19)
idolatry, (the worship of idols or false gods; excessive admiration or love shown for somebody or something)
sorcery, (the supposed use of magic)
hatreds,
fightings,
jealousies,
angers,
rivalries,
divisions,
heresies, (Gal 5:20) (an opinion or belief that contradicts established religious teaching, especially one that is officially condemned by a religious authority)
envyings,
murders,
drunkennesses,
revelings, (to have an enjoyable time in the company of others, especially at a party)

and things like these; of which I tell you before, as I also said before, that they who do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. (Gal 5:21)

Those are works of the flesh, with the exception of revelings. Why would having a good time with other people be bad?

Those are works of the flesh, with the exception of revelings. Why would having a good time with other people be bad?

Very good question, I also wondered about that one

Maybe it is going overboard, I do not know

Intel says.....about Iran nuclear capabilities.....or in this case missile capabilities .

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1253198156759&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

You know, this stuff gets kind of old. Just shows that nobody really knows anything about how close to the B Iran is....

Intel says.....about Iran nuclear capabilities.....or in this case missile capabilities .

You know, this stuff gets kind of old. Just shows that nobody really knows anything about how close to the B Iran is....

You are right
All I know is that Israel is not afraid to strike Iran if they do not stop developing nuclear weapons

IT was supposed to be the week President Barack Obama saved the world. More than 100 heads of state are preparing to descend on New York for talks on halting climate change, promoting nuclear disarmament, defeating terrorism in Pakistan and tackling poverty in sub-Saharan Africa

— all before a G20 meeting in Pittsburgh on Friday aimed at reaching agreements on global financial regulation and curbing bankers’ bonuses.
The headline-grabber was expected to be the relaunch of the stalled Middle East peace process, to be followed a week later by America’s first direct talks with Iran since the Islamic revolution in 1979.

Instead, attempts to revive talks between Israelis and Palestinians, the cornerstone of the administration’s foreign policy, have failed so far. Western diplomats say it will take all the president’s considerable charisma to revive them

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article6841332.ece

Iran must decide whether to come to the negotiating table or face crippling isolation, the United States warned yesterday as pressure mounted on Tehran over its suspected nuclear weapons programme.

Hillary Clinton, the US Secretary of State, issued the warning as President Obama prepared for a make-or-break week for his ambitious foreign policy agenda.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article6840769.ece

US President Barack Obama will host a meeting Tuesday with Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu and Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas, in an effort to lay the groundwork for renewed peace negotiations, the White House announced Saturday night.

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1253198158301&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

Two Kassam rockets were launched from the Gaza Strip into Israel overnight Saturday, Israel Radio reported.

The rockets exploded in open areas in the western Negev. There were no reports of casualties or damage.

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Russia on Saturday joined the US and UK in condemning Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad for saying the Holocaust was "a myth," calling his statement "totally unacceptable."

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1253198154867&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

One of the most powerful figures in the Anglican Church believes that Africa is under attack from Islam and that Muslims are “mass-producing” children to take over communities on the continent.

Archbishop Nicholas Okoh, 56, was elected Primate of Nigeria last week and his elevation could exacerbate tensions at a time when Anglicans are working to build bridges with Muslims.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article6841734.ece

Israel has promised the Kremlin that it will not launch an attack on Iran, according to President Medvedev.

Publicly at least, Israeli leaders have always refused to rule out the possiblity of a military strike against Iran's nuclear programme if it refuses to stop enriching uranium. But Mr Medvedev said that Shimon Peres, his Israeli counterpart, gave such an assurance during a meeting in the Black Sea resort of Sochi last month.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article6841728.ece

Iran's supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei has blasted arch-foe Israel, Western powers and foreign media networks in a sermon marking the Muslim festival of Eid al-Fitr earlier today.

Ayatollah Khamenei, who has the final say in all Iran's national issues, said a "Zionist cancer" was gnawing into the lives of Islamic nations.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article6841604.ece

The US should deal with halting North Korea's nuclear weapons program before Iran's, since that would have a big influence on the Islamic republic, Defense Minister Ehud Barak was quoted as saying Monday.

"North Korea is developing long-range missiles in the backyard of China and Russia and nothing happens to them,"

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Middle-aged male smokers with high cholesterol and blood pressure die, on average, a decade sooner than peers without any of these heart disease risk factors, according to a study published on Friday.


Many studies have shown that not smoking, eating healthily and exercising cut heart disease rates.


But few have tackled the problem from the other end: to what extent is life expectancy shortened by having these heart disease risk factors?


To find out, researchers from Oxford University sifted through data from 19,000 male civil servants who were examined in the late 1960s when they were 40 to 69 years old.

http://www.newsmaxhealth.com/health_stories/bad_habit_years_life/2009/09/18/261806.html

President Barack Obama says the world's leading economic powers have made progress in stabilizing the global financial system but much work remains to produce needed jobs and growth.

"At next week's G-20 summit, we'll discuss some of the steps that are required to safeguard our global financial system and close gaps in regulation around the world, gaps that permitted the kinds of reckless risk-taking and irresponsibility that led to the crisis," he said.

http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/obama_economy_g20/2009/09/19/262129.html

The Lord has warned California many times on the gay issue. Do not be surprised when He starts with real judgment and punishment - Roelof

A homosexual advocacy initiative claims that over 250 California schools have registered to show their students a curriculum of films that encourages teens to rethink their sexuality, society and even religion.

The curriculum includes videos made by a San Francisco group calling itself "the best in LGBT media," and includes a clip in which a boy "comes out" by wearing his mother's bikini and another that uses Native American spirituality to depict bisexual individuals as "two-spirit" people.

The accompanying discussion guides also encourage students to evaluate their religious traditions based on whether they encourage "choice" in sexuality or "reinforce gender expectations."

The program, called "Youth in Motion: Empowering students through LGBTQ film," is a joint effort between the Gay-Straight Alliance Network and Frameline, which describes itself as a nonprofit organization dedicated to the promotion of lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender media arts.

"Our goal is to give student activists and teachers new tools to educate their peers about lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender history and culture (and have fun doing it!)," states the curriculum's website (http://frameline.org/youthinmotion/index.html).

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=110248

Do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor abusers, nor homosexuals, (1Co 6:9)

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The US is moving deeper in under the judgment of the Lord - Roelof

'Respect' proposal has nearly 100 members of Congress endorsing homosexuality

Nearly 100 members of the U.S. House are working in lockstep with the Obama administration to try to eliminate protections for traditional marriage in the United States with the "Respect for Marriage Act" that has just been introduced in Congress.

H.R. 3567 was introduced just days ago by [/URL]U.S. Rep. Jerrold Nadler, D-New York, and more than 90 co-sponsors.

"This legislation would repeal the Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA), a 1996 law which discriminates against lawfully married same-sex couples," Nadler said in a statement on his website.The proposal has been assigned to committee.

"The 13-year-old DOMA singles out legally married same-sex couples for discriminatory treatment under federal law, selectively denying them critical federal responsibilities and rights, including programs like social security that are intended to ensure the stability and security of American families," his statement continued.

"The introduction of the Respect for Marriage Act responds directly to a call from President Obama for congressional action on the issue. As the president recently confirmed: 'I stand by my long-standing commitment to work with Congress to repeal the so-called Defense of Marriage Act. It's discriminatory, it interferes with states' rights, and it's time we overturned it," the statement said.

[URL]http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=110234 (http://www.house.gov/nadler)

pres Obama pushing for a New World Order - Roelof

WASHINGTON/BERLIN (Reuters) - U.S. President Barack Obama (http://www.reuters.com/news/globalcoverage/barackobama) said on Sunday he would push world leaders this week for a reshaping of the global economy in response to the deepest financial crisis in decades.

In Europe, officials kept up pressure for a deal to curb bankers' pay and bonuses at a two-day summit of leaders from the Group of 20 (http://bibleforums.org/news/globalcoverage/G20) countries, which begins on Thursday

Without naming specific countries, the proposal indicates the United States should save more and cut its budget deficit, China should rely less on exports and Europe should make structural changes -- possibly in areas such as labor law -- to make itself more attractive to investment.

To head off reluctance from China, Froman's letter also supported Beijing's call for developing countries to have more say at the International Monetary Fund.

The IMF would be at the center of a peer review process that would assess member nations' policies and how they affect economic growth

http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSTRE58G34Z20090921


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Deputy Foreign Minister Danny Ayalon insisted Monday that the military option against Iran was still on the table, rejecting comments made by Russian President Dmitry Medvedev last week and published Sunday.

Ayalon told the Reuters news agency that Medvedev's statement did not guarantee Israel would not attack Iran's nuclear facilities, should the international diplomatic push to stymie its nuclear aspirations prove futile.

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The United Nations' World Food Program (WFP), which currently targets 108 million people on the brink of starvation in 74 countries and is entirely funded through donation, has been one of the worst affected: At the beginning of the year, it tabled a 2009 budget of $6.7 billion. By September, it had received a little more than a third of what it solicited.

In a year when an estimated 100 million more people joined the ranks of the global hungry, pushing the total over a billion for the first time, the WFP is facing the prospect of scaling back operations and cutting off millions of people it has been providing for. "We're looking at an unprecedented situation," says Gregory Barrow, a WFP spokesman at the organization's headquarters in Rome. "We're having to make extremely difficult calculations that involve real people, real lives."

http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1925099,00.html

China will unveil “impressive” measures at a high-powered summit in New York today that could help to unlock global talks on climate change, according to the UN climate chief.

Yves de Boer, the executive secretary of the UN Framework Convention on Climate Change, predicted that China would become a world leader in fighting global warming.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article6843555.ece

It is "self murder" - Roelof

Seventy years ago Sigmund Freud’s doctor helped him to die. Now more and more of us want that same final choice

Seventy years ago today, a quarter of a mile from where I am writing, Sigmund Freud’s doctor, Max Schur, administered a third and final shot of morphine to his celebrated patient. The previous day Freud, suffering from a terminal recurrence of the jaw cancer that had cost him half his palate, and smelling so badly that his beloved dog would come nowhere near him, reminded the doctor of an earlier conversation.

Tomorrow, also September 23, after the Debbie Purdy case, the Director of Public Prosecutions is expected to publish new draft guidelines about the circumstances under which it might prosecute those who assist (as Schur and Anna Freud did) someone to commit suicide. Except that these new guidelines will apply only to those who travel to a jurisdiction where assisted suicide is legal. In Britain it is not. Seven decades later the actions of Freud’s doctor and beloved daughter — actions occasioned by compassion and love — will still be illegal.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/david_aaronovitch/article6843426.ece

President Shimon Peres on Tuesday expressed hope that the tripartite meeting between Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu, Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas and US President Barack Obama scheduled to be held in New York later in the day, will lead to the resumption of Middle East peace talks.

"In several hours, our prime minister will meet with the US president and with Palestinian Authority President [Mamhmoud] Abbas, and will purposely be absent from a UN meeting attended by one of the [B]most terrible men of our time - [Iranian President Mahmoud] Ahmadinejad," the president said during a visit at the Kaduri Agricultural School in the North

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1253198173337&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

A number of North African and Persian Gulf states have promised to give Israeli airliners flyover rights in the airspace over their countries, as well as other concessions, if Israel freezes settlement construction, according to a report on Tuesday in the Washington Times.

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The head of Iran's Atomic Energy Organization on Tuesday claimed that Teheran has built a "new generation" of high capacity centrifuges.

"Our scientists have built a new generation of centrifuges and cascades with 10 centrifuges each [which] are now being tested," the IRNA news agency quoted Ali Akbar Salehi as saying.

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Sony and Panasonic say they will release home 3-D television systems in 2010; Mitsubishi and JVC are reported to be working on similar products.
"TV finally becomes real" in three dimensions, said Robert Perry, an executive vice president at Panasonic. "You're in it. It's the next frontier."

ESPN is test-recording some sporting events in 3-D, using cameras with two sets of lenses, which would make football players appear to jump out of home television (http://topics.cnn.com/topics/Television) screens during live 3-D broadcasts.

And, although television makers haven't released specifics, the price of 3-D TV -- which requires a new television, broadcasting content and 3-D glasses -- is not expected to be substantially higher than some high-definition televisions on the market now.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/TECH/09/18/3D.home.television/

Is Israel preparing to strike Iran? - Roelof

US Navy missile ships started arriving in Israel on Sunday ahead of next month's joint missile defense exercise between the IDF and the American military's European Command.

Called Juniper Cobra, the exercise will include the Arrow missile defense system as well as three American systems - the THAAD, Aegis and PAC3 - that will all be deployed in Israel for the duration of the exercise.
Defense officials said the exercise would not begin for a few weeks, but that the ships were already arriving to begin preparing the infrastructure for the joint drill, the largest since Israel and the US began holding the biennial Juniper Cobra drill in 2001.

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1253198161404&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FPrinter

My view point is that Islam will play a major role in the One World Religion - Roelof

I come to America with a mission. All is not well in the old world. There is a tremendous danger looming, and it is very difficult to be optimistic. We might be in the final stages of the Islamization of Europe . This not only is a clear and present danger to the future of Europe itself, it is a threat to America and the sheer survival of the West. The United States is the last bastion of Western civilization, facing an Islamic Europe.
The Europe you know is changing.

All throughout Europe a new reality is rising: entire Muslim neighborhoods where very few indigenous people reside or are even seen.

Mosques stand on many street corners. The shops have signs you and I cannot read.

There are now thousands of mosques throughout Europe. With larger congregations than there are in churches. And in every European city there are plans to build super-mosques that will dwarf every church in the region.

Non-Muslim women routinely hear “whore, whore.”

http://thelastcrusade.org/2009/09/21/islam-a-warning-to-america/

Great article. Have you seen the video on Muslim demograhics? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XK1pnCldKZI:pray:

Great article. Have you seen the video on Muslim demograhics? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XK1pnCldKZI:pray:

arcadia

Thanks for the shocking video clip

It confirms that Islam will be the major religion in the One World Religion

China pledged yesterday to slow the growth of its emissions despite the rapid expansion of its economy.

President Hu Jintao told nearly 100 leaders at a UN summit on climate change that China would cut carbon dioxide emissions by a notable margin by 2020. “We have taken and will continue to take determined and practical steps to tackle this challenge,” he said.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article6845033.ece

President Obama increased the pressure on Israeli and Palestinian leaders to restart talks as he gambled on a landmark meeting to jolt the stalled peace process back to life.

Speaking before bringing the Israeli Prime Minister, Binyamin Netanyahu, and Mahmoud Abbas, the Palestinian President, together for talks, a stern Mr Obama warned that a sense of urgency was required to lay the foundations for peace.

“Success depends on all sides acting with a sense of urgency,” Mr Obama told

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article6844971.ece

Building a New World Order, brick by brick - Roelof

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Leaders from some of the largest Western powers rallied support Tuesday behind a U.S. plan to build a more balanced global economy and warned against returning to business as usual once recovery takes hold.

British Prime Minister Gordon Brown said there was substantial backing among the Group of 20 (http://bibleforums.org/news/globalcoverage/G20) nations for creating a new framework to shrink surpluses in export-rich countries such as China and boosting savings in debt-laden nations including the United States.

Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper also supported the idea of a rebalanced global economy, to be monitored by the International Monetary Fund, saying world growth can no longer hinge solely on "overextended" U.S. consumers

http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSTRE58G34Z20090923

California is under the judgment of the Lord for liberal gay and abortion laws - Roelof

LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - A raging wildfire burned toward the outskirts of a community north of Los Angeles on Tuesday, injuring two firefighters and forcing more than 400 people to flee their homes.

The fire erupted in the morning and had blackened about 6,000 acres of scrubland by early evening

http://www.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idUSTRE58M06620090923

While Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu emerged from his meeting with US President Barack Obama and Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas Tuesday saying that the Palestinians had dropped their preconditions for negotiations, and that the discussion now centered on the framework of the talks, Abbas himself announced that nothing less than an Israeli withdraw to the 1967 borders would enable resuming peace talks.

The questions being dealt with now, Netanyahu said at a press briefing with Israeli reporters, were "how the discussions will be held, within what framework and how they will be characterized."

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Israel reserves the right to defend itself against a nuclear threat from Iran, but the Islamic Republic's inner turmoil and weakened economy make it susceptible to pressure, Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu said Tuesday.

"I think the best thing to do is to apply what I think Secretary of State Hillary Clinton called crippling sanctions on Iran," Netanyahu told ABC television.

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U.S. to push for new economic world order at G20

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States will urge world leaders this week to launch a new push in November to rebalance the world economy, but there are doubts national governments will bow to external advice.

A document outlining the U.S. position ahead of the September 24-25 Group of 20 (http://bibleforums.org/news/globalcoverage/G20) summit in Pittsburgh said exporters, which include China, Germany and Japan, should consume more, while debtors like the United States ought to boost savings.

http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSTRE58G34Z20090921

Clinton also pushing for a New World Order - Roelof

WASHINGTON -- U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said the world needs a "global architecture of cooperation" in a speech previewing U.S. goals for the 64th United Nations General Assembly (UNGA), which begins next week.

Speaking at the Brookings Institution in Washington, D.C., the U.S. secretary of state outlined five priority issues the United States wants to pursue during the upcoming UN session: nuclear nonproliferation, the rebuilding and security of Iraq, terrorism, the Israeli-Palestine conflict, and violence against women.

http://www.rferl.org/content/Clinton_Sees_Need_For_Global_Architecture_Of_Coope ration_/1826459.html

Full speed towards a mature New World Order - Roelof

The sun is setting on the US dollar as the ultra-loose monetary policy of the US Federal Reserve forces China and the vibrant economies of the emerging world to forge a new global currency order, according to a new report by HSBC.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/comment/ambroseevans_pritchard/6211858/HSBC-bids-farewell-to-dollar-supremacy.html

The USS America is sinking—and Japan is getting off while it can.

For over 50 years, one party ruled Japan virtually uninterrupted. During that time, Japan remained a loyal ally and supporter of U.S. policy. This month, a historic event took place.

Japan has new leadership. In a landslide victory, a new party has done the seemingly impossible. A new freshman class of leaders now governs the Land of the Rising Sun. The effects are already rippling across the Pacific toward America.

Yukio Hatoyama is Japan’s new leader. He officially took office last Wednesday, and he is already threatening to split with the United States (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/japan/6174814/Incoming-Tokyo-government-threatens-split-with-US.html).
Hatoyama (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/japan/6174814/Incoming-Tokyo-government-threatens-split-with-US.html) blames America for the global economic crisis and says that the U.S. is responsible for “the destruction of human dignity.” He campaigned on protecting traditional Japanese economic activities and reducing U.S.-led globalization.

Japan is the world’s second-largest economy. It is also America’s second-most-important creditor. The U.S. government owes Japan over $724 billion (http://www.treas.gov/tic/mfh.txt)! The only nation America owes more money to is China ($800 billion). The U.S. also imports $140 billion (http://dataweb.usitc.gov/scripts/cy_m3_run.asp) worth of goods from Japan each year.

If Japan were to follow through with its threat to only lend in yen, the dollar would probably fall hard. What would that mean? America gets more expensive consumer goods, higher unemployment, and currency inflation. If other nations like China follow suit, we would be looking at a currency crisis—Zimbabwe-style.

On Wednesday, an even bigger torpedo hit. Both U.S. and Japanese officials confirmed (http://www.stripes.com/article.asp?section=104&article=64776) that discussions were underway to remove all U.S. fighter aircraft from Japan.

At a time when China is increasingly challenging American authority in the East and South China Sea, when North Korea is brandishing nuclear weapons, and Islamic terrorism is on the upswing in the Philippines and Southeast Asia, America can ill afford to lose Japanese military and logistical support.
But it is losing it.

Creating a new anti-dollar regional Asian currency shared by China, Japan, South Korea, Taiwan and Hong Kong.

America is about to become perilously isolated.

http://www.thetrumpet.com/index.php?q=6567.5047.0.0

Sony and Panasonic say they will release home 3-D television systems in 2010; Mitsubishi and JVC are reported to be working on similar products.
"TV finally becomes real" in three dimensions, said Robert Perry, an executive vice president at Panasonic. "You're in it. It's the next frontier."

ESPN is test-recording some sporting events in 3-D, using cameras with two sets of lenses, which would make football players appear to jump out of home television (http://topics.cnn.com/topics/Television) screens during live 3-D broadcasts.

And, although television makers haven't released specifics, the price of 3-D TV -- which requires a new television, broadcasting content and 3-D glasses -- is not expected to be substantially higher than some high-definition televisions on the market now.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/TECH/09/18/3D.home.television/


According to the articles I've read, having the Technology is one thing, but it will take more than a year for studios to even attempt to try to put out products that are "3-D" as it requires special filming equipment.

According to the articles I've read, having the Technology is one thing, but it will take more than a year for studios to even attempt to try to put out products that are "3-D" as it requires special filming equipment.

Veretax

Although I am an electrical engineer, we are very happy with our 74cm flat screen tube TV. We do not have a plasma or LCD flat screen yet.
True 3D TV, I will wait another 15 years for that ;);)

UNITED NATIONS, Sept. 23--President Obama plans to deliver a stern speech to the leaders of the world's nations Wednesday morning, challenging them to live up to their responsibilities even as he acknowledges that the United States has also fallen short on many fronts.

In excerpts of his speech to the United Nations General Assembly released late Tuesday night, Obama defends the actions of his young administration as the beginnings of progress on intractable world problems. And he urges his counterparts to do likewise.

"Make no mistake: this cannot be solely America's endeavor," the president says, according to the text.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/09/23/AR2009092300796.html

Signs of the Great Tribulation? - Roelof

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/46426000/jpg/_46426657_008001254-1.jpg

Sydney residents woke up to an ethereal scene on Wednesday


A storm which blew in from the Australian outback blanketed Sydney in a layer of orange dust. Here, residents describe the bizarre and frightening scene.
Tanya Ferguson said the dust was the weirdest thing she had seen in her life, turning the city into a scene from another planet.
"It was like being on Mars," she told the BBC News website.
"I haven't been there, obviously, but I imagine that's what the sky would look like."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/8270337.stm


From Nelson’s New Illustrated Bible Dictionary:

THE GREAT TRIBULATION— a short but intense period of distress and suffering at the end of time. The exact phrase, “the great tribulation,” is found only once in the Bible (Rev. 7:14). The great tribulation fulfills Daniel’s prophecies (Daniel 7–12). It will be a time of evil from false christs and false prophets (Mark 13:22) when natural disasters will occur throughout the world.

JERUSALEM, Sept. 23 (Xinhua) -- When Israeli and Palestinian negotiators meet U.S. special envoy George Mitchell for more talks next week, it is by no means clear what they will be discussing. Tuesday's tripartite meeting between U.S., Israeli and Palestinian leaders left many questions unanswered.

The U.S. President Barack Obama's administration did make plain one thing that had not been obvious until Tuesday: It did not see its demand for an Israeli settlement construction freeze as "a precondition" to the resumption of Israeli-Palestinian negotiations.


http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2009-09/23/xin_1120906230802515134783.jpg



U.S. President Barack Obama watches Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu (L) and Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas (R) shake hands during a trilateral meeting in New York September 22, 2009. (Xinhua/Reuters Photo)

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2009-09/23/content_12103075.htm

New world currency order starts to unfold

Appropriately straddling the turn of the 21st century, the “borrowed” consumer decade of 1997–2007 may come to be regarded as the fin de siecle, marking a critical juncture in the drift away from the US dollar hegemony that has dominated the international financial system since the Bretton Woods regime ended in 1971.

Instead, we are on the road to a new, multilateral currency order.

Today, after almost 25 years of deficits, the US is the world’s largest debtor with little chance of shrinking that debt without significant further real depreciation of its currency.

http://www.thenational.ae/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090922/BUSINESS/709219952/1137

JERUSALEM — Israeli archaeologists say they have uncovered a ritual bath in Jerusalem that was likely used by Jewish pilgrims coming to the temple two millenia ago.

The bath is located next to the Temple Mount, the compound in Jerusalem's Old City where two Biblical Temples stood. The second was destroyed by Roman legions in 70 A.D.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jRaBu2HXlqmEo4EbqT9Lmzpok5TgD9AT12MG2

JERUSALEM (CNN) -- In what was slated to be the site of a new 122-room hotel, archaeologists say they have discovered one of the world's oldest synagogues in Northern Israel.

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A large carved stone found during excavations of the recently uncovered synagogue.

The site, which was unearthed as preparations were being made for construction of the hotel near the Sea of Galilee, is believed to date back some 2000 years from 50BCE to 100CE.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/meast/09/11/jerusalem.synagogue/

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/misc/nytlogo152x23.gif (http://www.nytimes.com)

Obama to Call for Era of Global Engagement

Obama calling for a New World Order - Roelof

President Obama (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/o/barack_obama/index.html?inline=nyt-per)plans to tell world leaders (http://www.un.org/webcast/) gathered at the United Nations (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/organizations/u/united_nations/index.html?inline=nyt-org) on Wednesday that America is committed to a new era of engagement in global affairs, and that when it comes to dealing with the world’s problems, America cannot go it alone.

Calling on the international community to take a larger role in handling challenges from climate change (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/science/topics/globalwarming/index.html?inline=nyt-classifier) to peacemaking, Mr. Obama is to insist, “This cannot be solely America’s endeavor.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/24/world/24prexy.html?_r=1&hp

Cairo - Al-Qaeda predicted President Barack Obama's downfall at the hands of the Muslim world in a new video released on Tuesday.

The 106-minute video in Arabic, entitled The West and the Dark Tunnel, is part of a series of messages by the group marking the eighth anniversary of the September 11 attacks. Osama bin Laden released a short message of his own on September 14.

http://www.news24.com/Content/World/News/1073/92e3fe757fff4e559c0f574e6228d68e/23-09-2009-02-17/Al-Qaeda_predicts_Obama_downfall

Statistics showing an immoral nation - Roelof

The average British man claims to have actually slept with nine people, while women put the figure at 6.3, giving an average of 7.65.

"When we sleep with someone, we are, in effect, not only sleeping with them, but also their previous partners and their partners' previous partners, and so on," said Clare Kerr, head of sexual health at Lloydspharmacy.

"It's important that people understand how exposed they are to STIs and take appropriate precautions including using condoms and getting themselves checked out where appropriate."

http://www.news24.com/Content/SciTech/News/1132/e6bc139782734d67aac55341b303e3cb/23-09-2009-02-27/Who_have_you_slept_with


Do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor abusers, nor homosexuals, (1Co 6:9)

Those are works of the flesh, with the exception of revelings. Why would having a good time with other people be bad?
Hi, IamRyan and Roelof! The word "revelings" is denoting a very negative type of having a good time with other people. It involves what we would term as "partying" in today's lingo. Another great word for it is carousing. There is an aspect of boisterous, nothing-is-sacred, anything-goes, drinks-all-around type of spirit with this.

I think the Lord blesses us with friends that we can enjoy having good times with, and I am so glad of that. It is a wonderful thing to laugh and celebrate happiness together! Thankfully, the word "revelings" has a far different meaning in this Scriptural passage.

Hi, IamRyan and Roelof! The word "revelings" is denoting a very negative type of having a good time with other people. It involves what we would term as "partying" in today's lingo. Another great word for it is carousing. There is an aspect of boisterous, nothing-is-sacred, anything-goes, drinks-all-around type of spirit with this.

I think the Lord blesses us with friends that we can enjoy having good times with, and I am so glad of that. It is a wonderful thing to laugh and celebrate happiness together! Thankfully, the word "revelings" has a far different meaning in this Scriptural passage.

wombat

Thanks for the explanation, that one puzzled me

wombat

Thanks for the explanation, that one puzzled me

The NIV translates it as "orgies". ;)

The NIV translates it as "orgies". ;)

Revolvr

That is a very good description!

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00618/Obama-Medvedev_618253a.jpg

(Charles Dharapak/AP)
Dmitri Medvedev, the Russian President, and President Obama attend a meeting in New York yesterday

President Obama’s biggest foreign policy gamble appeared to pay off last night as Russia opened the door to punishing new sanctions on Iran to halt its nuclear programme.

Emerging from his first meeting with Mr Obama since the Eastern Europe missile shield was scrapped, President Medvedev of Russia conceded that “in some cases, sanctions are inevitable”.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article6846837.ece

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(Alessia Pierdomenico/Reuters)
Pope Benedict XVI

Pope Benedict XVI will come to Britain next year, making the first state visit by a pontiff. He is expected to meet the Queen, the Supreme Governor of the Church of England, and may stay at Buckingham Palace.
The historic event, probably in September, is likely to overshadow even the triumphant pastoral visit of Pope John Paul II in 1982.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article6846020.ece

Under increasing attack over his country's suspected nuclear weapons program, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad told the UN General Assembly on Wednesday that Teheran was ready to meet conciliation with conciliation.

Ahmadinejad spoke to a half-empty chamber as he sought to cast himself as a beleaguered champion of the developing world, that he portrayed as under attack from rapacious capitalism.

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1253627552118&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu praised US President Barack Obama's UN address Wednesday, which backed Israel's right to live securely, stressed its legitimacy as a "Jewish state," and urged the Palestinians to relaunch negotiations without preconditions.

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1253627551178&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu met with leaders of countries largely friendly to Israel Wednesday after a tough round of conversations with US President Barack Obama and Palestinian Prime Minister Mahmoud Abbas the day before, followed by a meeting with France.

Netanyahu's 45-minute conversation with French Prime Minister Nicolas Sarkozy, in which he was accompanied only by his military attache Meir Kalifi and National Security Adviser Uzi Arad, was believed to have focused on Iran, though no official announcement was issued after the talks.

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1253627552504&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

Working on a New World Order - Roelof

PITTSBURGH (Reuters) - A U.S. drive to build a more balanced global economy gained the qualified support of China on Wednesday in a sign that Group of 20 (http://www.reuters.com/news/globalcoverage/G20) leaders may be ready to take joint action to prevent future economic crises.

U.S. President Barack Obama (http://www.reuters.com/news/globalcoverage/barackobama) and other leaders of the G20 (http://www.reuters.com/news/globalcoverage/G20) major developed and developing countries are due to meet in Pittsburgh on Thursday and Friday, with restoring economic growth and rewriting the rules of finance high on the agenda.

http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSTRE58G34Z20090924

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Three separate missions examining the moon have found clear evidence of water there, apparently concentrated at the poles and possibly formed by the solar wind.

The reports, to be published in the journal Science on Friday, show the water may be actively moving around, forming and reforming as particles mixed up in the dust on the surface of the moon.

http://www.reuters.com/article/scienceNews/idUSTRE58N01V20090924

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Look beyond the New World Order to the Return of Christ - Roelof

Former professional soccer player turned Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan proposed the creation of a “new global order” to an audience of roughly 700 students and visitors in Richardson Auditorium on Wednesday.

During the speech, which was delivered in Turkish and simultaneously translated to audience members via individual earpieces, Erdogan said that today’s most pressing international matters require international cooperation that embraces a diversity of opinion while focusing on political, cultural, economic and legal issues.

http://www.dailyprincetonian.com/2009/09/24/23896/


The final Antichrist will have total political, religious and economic power over the world:

· Revelation 13:4 (21st Century King James Version)And they worshiped the dragon which gave power unto the beast, and they worshiped the beast, saying, “Who is like unto the beast? Who is able to make war with him?” (political power)

· Revelation 13:8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him (religious power), whose names are not written in the Book of Life of the Lamb,

· Revelation 13:17 that no man might buy or sell (economical power), save he that had the mark or the name of the beast or the number of his name.

Pushing for a New World Order at the UN - Roelof


FRENCH PRESIDENT NICOLAS SARKOZY

After such a strong disavowal of our way of thinking, the task before us is as great as the men of goodwill who joined here to lay the foundations of a new world order.

France has come to say - we have no more time. I hope that 2009 will be the year when a new world order will be established - one that we will all be comfortable with.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_depth/8271200.stm

Veretax

Although I am an electrical engineer, we are very happy with our 74cm flat screen tube TV. We do not have a plasma or LCD flat screen yet.
True 3D TV, I will wait another 15 years for that ;);)


That's basically what I was saying. That's the other side of the coin. You can't distribute 3D material till a large number of studios have the equipment to film it. You also can't have a market until an installed base of consumers exists. Personally I don't see 3D ever being very popular

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - An experimental AIDS vaccine made from two older versions has made major progress in finding an effective way to combat the illness, researchers said on Thursday.

But its application may be limited and a commercial vaccine may require more time.

The health minister of Thailand, where the trials were conducted, called the outcome a "very important step for developing an AIDS vaccine." Two U.N. agencies said they gave "new hope" in battling the disease but more work was needed.

At least one researcher suggested the vaccine might not be effective in areas and in instances where AIDS is most prevalent.

http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSTRE58N1AX20090924


Due to AIDS, the life expectancy in Africa is much lower. In Angola and Zambia it is under 40 years - Roelof


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The Palestinians cannot return to peace talks at this time because of "fundamental disagreements" with Israel on what should be on the agenda, Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas said in an interview published Thursday, rebuffing an appeal by US President Barack Obama that both sides get back to the table promptly

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1253627557197&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

Watch for natural disasters in the US as Obama pushes the nation Israel of our Lord - Roelof

US president gives Israelis, Palestinians three weeks to respond on issues preventing resumption of peace negotiations. Special envoy Mitchell suggests Israeli settlement freeze not essential for peace talks with Palestinians to resume

http://www.ynetnews.com/Ext/Comp/ArticleLayout/CdaArticlePrintPreview/1,2506,L-3780557,00.html

The London Times recently reported that Iran has perfected the technology necessary to create and detonate a nuclear warhead. According to the report, which has been confirmed by others in our intelligence community, it would take approximately six months or less to enrich enough uranium for a nuclear bomb and another six months to assemble the warhead for possible deployment.

http://www.newsmax.com/herbert_london/obama_iran_missile/2009/09/22/263209.html

New York - Israel's prime minister told the United Nations on Thursday that Iran's alleged quest for nuclear weapons is the greatest danger the world faces.

"The greatest threat facing the world today is the marriage between religious fundamentalism and the weapons of mass destruction," Benjamin Netanyahu said in a speech to the UN General Assembly in New York.

http://www.news24.com/Content/World/News/1073/6d93a6237e644774b850b7cd1805c086/24-09-2009-09-38/Iran_bomb_worlds_top_threat

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00618/iran_185x360_618257a.jpg


Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, the Iranian President

Pressure mounted on Iran yesterday to halt its nuclear programme as world leaders at the United Nations warned of the threat posed by Tehran to a global consensus on disarmament.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/article6848016.ece

On the way to a mature New World Order - Roelof

Leaders at today’s G20 summit are expected to discuss a strategy for winding up the G8 group of industrialised economies that has served as a magnet for controversy and protest by anti-globalisation activists.

The G20, meeting for the third time since last year’s banking crisis, is likely to supplant the G8 over the next two years, people close to the negotiations have told The Times.

http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/economics/article6848498.ece

Palestinians from both Hamas and Fatah criticized Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu's speech at the UN on Thursday in which he addressed a UN report that concluded the organization's investigation into Israel's most recent campaign in the Gaza Strip after denouncing Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and his international supporters.

"Netanyahu spoke of the Holocaust but Israel committed the largest massacre of the century," Army Radio quoted a Hamas spokesperson as saying in reference to Operation Cast Lead.

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1253820673981&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

I pray that abortions did not increase as a counter measure - Roelof

If the sidewalks seem less clogged with Bugaboo strollers these days and you can't remember the last time you had to diaper a doll at a baby shower, it's not your imagination or fuzzy memory. Birth rates in the U.S. fell 2% in 2008, the biggest drop in nearly four decades, and that trend is expected to continue. A new study out Sept. 23 from the Guttmacher Institute suggests that the timing is not a coincidence; the recession may be to blame, as women factor economic anxieties into their decision about having children.

http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1925944,00.html

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Protesters call on global leaders to do more to create jobs in the U.S. and around the world at a peaceful march in Pittsburgh, Pa.
Michelle Nichols / Reuters

The anarchists came to Pittsburgh to prepare to disrupt the G-20 summit. They quickly saw signs that made them believe that someone, or some entity, was prepared for them too. "Obviously, repression has already started," Pittsburgh anarchist Alex Bradley told a gathering of anti-authoritarians — the Pittsburgh G-20 Resistance Project — in a closed-door meeting on Sept. 20. Members of the group say they have been followed, photographed, stopped and searched in the run-up to their protests of the Group of 20 meeting of the world's leading economic powers on Sept. 24 and 25. The 40 people in the room were urged to write local lawyers' phone numbers on their bodies in case of arrest.

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1925611,00.html

Watch for more natural disasters in the US as pres Obama pushes Israel for a Palestinian state and dividing Jerusalem - Roelof

ATLANTA | State and local officials in Georgia waded Tuesday through water from a week's worth of rain that produced the worst flooding to hit the northern part of the state in more than 60 years.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/sep/23/near-record-flooding-kills-9-in-south/?source=newsletter_must-read-stories-today_more_news_carousel

PITTSBURGH – President Obama (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/o/barack_obama/index.html?inline=nyt-per) and the leaders of Britain and France will accuse Iran (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/international/countriesandterritories/iran/index.html?inline=nyt-geo) Friday of building a secret underground plant to manufacture nuclear fuel, saying it has hidden the covert operation for years from international weapons inspectors, according to senior administration officials.

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2009/09/24/world/26nuke-190.jpg
Justin Lane/European Pressphoto Agency
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad addressed the United Nations on Wednesday.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/26/world/middleeast/26nuke.html

The Lord is judging the US for pushing to divide Israel and Jerusalem - Roelof

The US is too dependent on Japan and China buying up the country's debt and could face severe economic problems if that stops, Tiger Management founder and chairman Julian Robertson told CNBC.


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Julian Robertson, founder of Tiger Management

"It's almost Armageddon if the Japanese and Chinese don't buy our debt,” Robertson said in an interview. "I don't know where we could get the money. I think we've let ourselves get in a terrible situation and I think we ought to try and get out of it."

Robertson said inflation is a big risk if foreign countries were to stop buying bonds.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/33004753

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu told Haaretz on Wednesday that he would not agree to a Palestinian demand that Israel accept the 1967 borders as a condition for renewing peace negotiations.

Netanyahu also gave a condition of his own, saying Thursday that he would never drop his demand that the Palestinians recognize Israel as a Jewish state.

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1116650.html

PITTSBURGH — President Obama (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/o/barack_obama/index.html?inline=nyt-per) will announce Friday that the once elite club of rich industrial nations known as the Group of 7 (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/organizations/g/group_of_seven/index.html?inline=nyt-org) will be permanently replaced as a global forum for economic policy by the much broader Group of 20 (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/organizations/g/group_of_20/index.html?inline=nyt-org) that includes China, Brazil, India and other fast-growing developing countries, administration officials said Thursday.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/25/world/25summit.html?hp

I said for a long time that we could have a mature New World Order by end of 2012 - Roelof

PITTSBURGH, Sept 25 (Reuters) - The Group of 20 (http://bibleforums.org/news/globalcoverage/G20) will take on the role of caretakers of the global economy, giving rising powers such as China more clout, and roll out tougher rules on bank capital by the end of 2012, a draft communique said on Friday.

Heading into the second day of a summit aimed at ensuring the world economy emerges from its worst recession in generations with better safeguards against another crisis, the G20 (http://bibleforums.org/news/globalcoverage/G20) also vowed to keep emergency economic support in place until a recovery is secured, according to the draft obtained by Reuters

http://www.reuters.com/article/usDollarRpt/idUSN2548010020090925

An excellent article - Roelof

Changing power structure shapes a new world order


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PATRICK CORRIGAN/TORONTO STAR

Sep 25, 2009 04:30 AM


Hans-Werner Sinn
Professor of Economics and Public Finance, University of Munich

Panta rhei. Everything flows.

This Greek aphorism often comes to mind when I think of the economic and political changes in my lifetime. They seemed as impossible before they occurred as they have felt natural in retrospect. Communism fell. Germany was united. The United States elected a black man president. And now we are in a phase in which Asia is catching up with the West and American hegemony is being challenged.

Indeed, in the first four months of this year, China became the world's leading goods exporter, overtaking Germany, the previous champion.

Although China accounts for 20 per cent of the world's population, its share of global GDP currently is only 7 per cent.

By contrast, the United States and the European Union account for 54 per cent of global GDP, despite having only 12 per cent of the world's population.

From 1995 to 2008, China's economy grew by 229 per cent, while the world economy grew by 63 per cent, the U.S. by 45 per cent, and the 27-member EU by only 37 per cent.

Yet China will undoubtedly become the world's largest economic power in the foreseeable future.

The proportion of people living below the World Bank's poverty line of $1.25 a day shrank from 52 per cent in 1981 to only 25 per cent in 2005. More than 50 per cent of the world's population is now considered middle class

Since the world will not continue to provide the U.S. with goods in exchange for dubious financial securities, Americans will have to leave their dream world. They will have to brace themselves for an extensive period of diminished expectations that will last much longer than the next economic boom, and that will require substantial structural changes in the U.S. economy.

http://www.thestar.com/comment/article/700670

I waited for this moment for a very long time. Keep your eyes on the Return of Christ - Roelof

New world economic order takes shape at G20

PITTSBURGH (Reuters) - The Group of 20 (http://bibleforums.org/news/globalcoverage/G20) is set to become the premier coordinating body on global economic issues, reflecting a new world economic order in which emerging market countries like China are much more relevant, according to a draft communique.

Leaders of the G20 (http://bibleforums.org/news/globalcoverage/G20) developed and developing nations also agreed to make the International Monetary Fund more representative by increasing the voting power of countries that have long been under-represented in the world financial body, said the draft G20 communique obtained by Reuters

http://www.reuters.com/article/newsMaps/idUSTRE58O1FB20090925

Britain, France and the United States set the stage for a dramatic confrontation with Iran when they revealed the existence of a secret nuclear site inside a mountain near the holy city of Qom as evidence of Tehran’s efforts to deceive the international community.
The coup de théâtre came at the opening of the G20 meeting in Pittsburgh after three days of intense diplomacy at the UN General Assembly.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article6850397.ece

Big Brother? - Roelof

New guidance for Britain’s 150,000 practising doctors could remove the right to confidentiality from patients with inherited diseases.
When a patient is found to have a genetic disease, such as certain forms of cancer, doctors will be obliged to inform relatives about potential risks to their health, the General Medical Council (GMC) says.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/health/article6850290.ece

It was three years ago that American intelligence agents began picking up signs that someone was tunnelling into the side of a mountain in the desert outside the holy city of Qom.

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was a year into his first term as Iran’s President and had just ordered the resumption of uranium enrichment, ending the two-year suspension demanded when the world first discovered the existence of Iran’s covert nuclear programme. It was Mr Ahmadinejad’s open defiance that caught the world’s attention. But only months later, the covert defiance had begun again, too.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article6850325.ece

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad flew back last night to a regime in turmoil over how to handle the revelations about an apparently military nuclear enrichment plant it has keep secret from inspectors for years.

Iran has six days until it is due to meet Russia, China, the US, Britain, France and Germany for critical talks on its nuclear programme. The regime had been full of bluster about the Geneva talks, insisting that it would brook no discussion of its nuclear “rights” and relishing the opportunity to take the international community to task over issues ranging from climate change to non-proliferation.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article6849523.ece

Russian President Dmitry Medvedev on Friday urged Iran to prove it is not seeking to develop atomic weapons, stepping up pressure on Teheran and signaling increased solidarity with Western nations determined to rein in its nuclear program.

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1253820679445&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

US President Barack Obama, chairing a special UN Security Council meeting he called to strengthen the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, succeeded in unanimously passing a resolution on Thursday that is aimed in part at increasing pressure on Iran and North Korea to rein in their nuclear programs.

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1253804297968&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

FInally, working on a mature New World Order - Roelof

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The leaders of the Group of 20 nations gathered at the first plenary session in Pittsburgh on Friday.

PITTSBURGH — One year after a financial crisis (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/subjects/c/credit_crisis/index.html?inline=nyt-classifier) that began in the United States tipped the world into a severe recession (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/subjects/r/recession_and_depression/index.html?inline=nyt-classifier), leaders from both rich countries and fast-growing powerhouses like China agreed on Friday to a far-reaching effort to revamp the economic system.

The agreements, if carried out by national governments, would lead to much tighter regulation over financial institutions, complex financial instruments and executive pay (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/subjects/e/executive_pay/index.html?inline=nyt-classifier). They could also lead to big changes and more outside scrutiny over the economic strategies of individual countries, including the United States.

“We have achieved a level of tangible, global economic cooperation that we’ve never seen before,” President Obama (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/o/barack_obama/index.html?inline=nyt-per) said shortly after the summit meeting of 20 leading economies concluded here.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/26/world/26summit.html?hp

http://english.aljazeera.net/mritems/Images//2009/9/26/200992653830999734_5.jpg

Ahmadinjed rejected US criticism as a political game in the run-up to nuclear talks in October [AFP]

Iran's president has denied his government violated International Atomic Energy Agency rules after disclosing the existence of a new nuclear-enrichment facility to the UN watchdog.
Speaking in Tehran on Saturday, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said his country had in fact informed the IAEA a full year in advance of the deadline set by the Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT).

http://english.aljazeera.net/news/asia/2009/09/200992653918859243.html

The fact of war in the M.E is probably not "if" but "when".

The fact of war in the M.E is probably not "if" but "when".


My heart's Desire

You are perfectly right

A group of people are trying to ban Christian religion in public SA schools. I pray that they will fail - Roelof

Statistics in America show that in the first 30 years since 1963 when the Bible in schools was banned, there were a:

* 560% increase in violent crimes;
* 400% increase in unwanted births;
* 400% increase in divorces;
* 300% increase in single parent houses;
* 200% increase in teenager suicides; and
* 75% decrease in ability tests (Source: Heritage Foundation 1993).

http://www.rapport.co.za/Content/MyRapport/Briewe/2346/122b0821a8c94c06ab11cdae6b892c94/26-09-2009-11-50/Syfers_wys_Bybel_in_skole_is_nodig

British victims of the credit crunch are offering to sell their kidneys for £25,000 or more to help pay debts, an investigation by The Sunday Times has revealed.

At least a dozen adverts have appeared on the internet offering kidneys for sale from British “donors”. Five of the sellers corresponded with undercover journalists, who posed as friends and relatives of sick patients to negotiate sales.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/health/article6850879.ece

The United States is threatening to launch airstrikes on Mullah Omar and the Taliban leadership in the Pakistani city of Quetta as frustration mounts about the ease with which they find sanctuary across the border from Afghanistan.

The threat comes amid growing divisions in Washington about whether to deal with the deteriorating situation in Afghanistan by sending more troops or by reducing them and targeting the terrorists.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article6850838.ece

It sounds like a scene from a James Bond movie. Western intelligence agents scouring Iran for a secret nuclear site, big enough to make a bomb but small enough to hide, identified some suspicious tunnels in a mountain complex outside the holy city of Qom.

The Iranians were preparing to operate as many as 3,000 centrifuges, cylindrical devices that spin at high speed to enrich uranium. They were of a type called P1 because they come from Pakistan and could produce enough fuel each year for one small nuclear bomb.

The suspicion now is that Iran may have been hiding other nuclear facilities.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article6850883.ece

American and Israeli military planners have been examining options for an attack on Iran for almost three decades. There is no shortage of possible targets: Iran has dozens of nuclear-related sites that are known to western officials.

Yet military experts in Washington and Tel Aviv acknowledge that a surprise airstrike would be likely to succeed only in delaying Iran’s development of nuclear weapons. It would also present daunting logistical and political challenges with no guarantee that even a sustained assault on known facilities would eradicate Tehran’s nuclear threat.

The three likeliest targets for an Israeli attack are reactors at Bushehr and Arak and a centrifuge production facility at Natanz. All are 1,000 miles or more from Israel, at the outer operating margins of Israeli air force bombers.

Yet the real problem for military planners is that no outside agency has a clear idea of where else Iran may have hidden its weapons-related technologies, notably the long-range missiles that might one day deliver nuclear warheads.

“It is doubtful that even the US knows all the potential targets,” said Cordesman. “They may now be in too many places for an Israeli strike to destroy Iran’s capabilities.”

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article6850890.ece

Washington - Secretary of State Hillary Clinton says she doesn't believe Iran can convince the US and other world powers that its nuclear programme is for peaceful purposes, putting Tehran on a course for tougher economic penalties beyond the current "leaky sanctions".

http://www.news24.com/Content/World/News/1073/463467071b0c4f3a8a2d0982f425a2fd/27-09-2009-10-28/Peaceful_nuke_claim_unconvincing

Iran began test-firing missiles yesterday, starting days of war games before a confrontation with foreign powers over a previously undisclosed secret nuclear facility.

The revelations about the enrichment plant, at a military base near the holy city of Qom, has dramatically upped the stakes for the meeting in Geneva on Thursday between Iranian representatives and those of the five permanent members of the United Nations Security Council plus Germany.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article6851576.ece

Iran has fired one of the longest-range missiles in its arsenal as part of testing it began ahead of a confrontation with foreign powers over a previously undisclosed secret nuclear facility later this week.

Earlier today the Revolutionary Guard is reported to have successfully launched the Shahab-3 missile, which is capable of carrying a nuclear warhead and has a range of up to 1,200 miles – which would put Israel, most Arab states and parts of Europe, including much of Turkey, within its range.

Iranian television broadcast footage of the Shahab-3 being fired from desert terrain.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article6851981.ece

"The Iranians have the intention of having nuclear weapons," US Defense Secretary Robert Gates has said.

In an interview with ABC to be aired Sunday, Gates added that "the question of whether they have made a formal decision to move towards the development of nuclear weapons is in doubt."

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1253820685869&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

WASHINGTON — The Obama administration is scrambling to assemble a package of harsher economic sanctions against Iran (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/international/countriesandterritories/iran/index.html?inline=nyt-geo) over its nuclear program that could include a cutoff of investments to the country’s oil-and-gas industry and restrictions on many more Iranian banks than those currently blacklisted, senior administration officials said Sunday.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/28/world/middleeast/28iran.html?_r=1&hp

British victims of the credit crunch are offering to sell their kidneys for £25,000 or more to help pay debts, an investigation by The Sunday Times has revealed.

At least a dozen adverts have appeared on the internet offering kidneys for sale from British “donors”. Five of the sellers corresponded with undercover journalists, who posed as friends and relatives of sick patients to negotiate sales.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/health/article6850879.ece


...Whoa. That's insane.

I pray for the protection of Israel, the nation of the Lord - Roelof

Iran warned Israel yesterday that it faces destruction if it attacks the Islamic republic, only hours after Tehran provocatively test-fired missiles capable of hitting targets across the Middle East.

“If this [an Israeli attack] happens, which, of course, we do not foresee, its ultimate result would be to expedite the last breath of the Zionist regime,” Ahmad Vahidi, the Iranian Defence Minister, said on state television

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article6851981.ece

UN investigator Richard Goldstone on Tuesday urged the international community to end the "culture of impunity" for violations of international law in Israel and "occupied Palestinian Territory," according to a United Nations statement.

Speaking to the UN Human Rights Council on Tuesday, Goldstone defended the UN Fact Finding Mission on the Gaza Conflict's report, which found that both Israel and Palestinian armed groups had committed actions which amounted to war crimes, as well as possibly crimes against humanity.

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1254163540191&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

TEHRAN (Reuters) - Iran (http://bibleforums.org/news/globalcoverage/iran) said on Tuesday it would refuse to discuss a newly declared nuclear plant at forthcoming international talks and cautioned Western powers it could curb cooperation further if they repeated "past mistakes."

An Iran (http://bibleforums.org/news/globalcoverage/iran)ian MP suggested that parliament might advocate withdrawal from the nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT) if Thursday's Geneva talks with major powers fail and "if the Zionists (Israel) and America continue their pressure on Iran" -- a reference to policies including economic sanctions

http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSLT56449320090929

Look beyond the fall of the dollar to the Second Coming of Christ - Roelof

When the U.S. dollar ultimately loses its status as the world’s premier reserve currency it will be painful for all involved, almost certainly disorganized, and very possibly a very good thing.

World Bank President Robert Zoellick outlined the risks to the dollar’s status in a speech in Washington on Monday.

The United States would be mistaken to take for granted the dollar’s place as the world’s predominant reserve currency. Looking forward, there will increasingly be other options to the dollar,” he said.

http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/09/29/an-unhealthy-privilege/

BEIJING (Reuters) - Shortly after the Communist Party took power in China, capitalists in Shanghai paraded through the streets with drums and flags, asking the Party to take over their businesses.

On Thursday, the Party will celebrate the 60th year of its rule over mainland China, having mostly abandoned its Marxist ideals for "socialism with Chinese characteristics" -- a messy mix of competitive capitalism and political monopoly

http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSTRE58S1SJ20090929

The state of California is continuing to slide into economic bankruptcy and the Lord's judgment for its promotion of laws advancing abortion and homosexuality. -----


Thousands of Bay Area homes have a ticking time bomb embedded in their mortgage. The homes were purchased with loans known as option ARMs, short for adjustable rate mortgages.

First American shows more than 54,000 option ARMs issued here with a value of about $30.9 billion.


http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/09/20/MNOR19N2B1.DTL&type=newsbayarea#ixzz0SVJI3qFT (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/09/20/MNOR19N2B1.DTL&type=newsbayarea#ixzz0SVJI3qFT)

The False Prophet is smiling - Roelof

First-ever polls comparing conservative and progressive activists are revealing to what degree these groups diverge when it comes to issue priorities, issue positions, and beliefs about scripture.

While the majority of both groups say religion is important in their lives, for example, they have strikingly different beliefs about scripture. Nearly half of conservatives (48 percent) believe scripture to be the literal word of God, while only three percent of progressives shared the same view, according to the 2009 Religious Activist Surveys conducted by the Bliss Institute of Applied Politics at the University of Akron in partnership with Public Religion Research.

While the vast majority of conservatives identify abortion (http://www.christianpost.com/us/topics/abortion) (83 percent) and same-sex marriage (65 percent) as the most important priorities among eight issues listed in the surveys, less than 10 percent of progressive religious activists called abortion and same-sex marriage the “most important” issues.
Instead, progressive activists identify poverty (http://www.christianpost.com/us/topics/poverty) (74 percent), health care (67 percent), environment (56 percent), jobs/economy (48 percent), and the Iraq war (45 percent) as the highest priorities.

On abortion, nearly all conservative religious activists opposed legalization of the practice (95 percent). In sharp contrast, the overwhelming majority of progressive religious activists support some form of legal abortions (80 percent). Twenty-six percent of progressives say abortion should be legal in all cases and 54 percent say it should be legal in most cases.

Regarding same-sex marriage, conservatives overwhelmingly (82 percent) oppose both same-sex marriage and civil unions. By contrast, 59 percent of progressives support same-sex marriage, and a third say the law should recognize legal agreements between same-sex couples but define marriage as a union between a man and woman.

http://www.christianpost.com/article/20090916/u-s-religious-activists-have-widely-divergent-views/index.html

Pressure, be it gentle or severe, will not erase that nuclear program. The choices are now what they ever were: an American or an Israeli strike, which would probably cause a substantial war, or living in a world with Iranian nuclear weapons, which may also result in war, perhaps nuclear, over a longer period of time.

The Iranian regime wants nuclear weapons and has invested vast sums to get both the devices and the means to deliver them. The Russians and Chinese have made soothing murmurs of disapproval but have repeatedly made it clear that they will not go along with measures that would cripple the Iranian economy (and deprive them of markets).

An Israeli strike may set back the Iranian program by some short period of time. What the Israelis can do is unclear: They play their tactical cards close to their vest, and they would take different approaches, and accept different risks, than the U.S. Air Force would.

An American attack would be more effective, but it would take longer and probably lead to real warfare in the Persian Gulf, disrupting oil supplies and producing global responses.

That leaves living with an Iranian bomb. But this too has enormous hazards. It will engender—it has already quietly engendered—a nuclear arms race in the region. It will embolden the Iranian regime to make much more lethal mischief than it has even now. In a region that respects strength, it will enhance, not diminish, Iranian prestige. And it may yield the first nuclear attack since 1945 some time down the road.

It is, therefore, in the American interest to break with past policy and actively seek the overthrow of the Islamic Republic. Not by invasion, which this administration would not contemplate and could not execute, but through every instrument of U.S. power, soft more than hard.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204518504574420641457091318.html?m od=djemEditorialPage

It is unprecedented in American counterterrorism annals: In one day the nation was dealing with three separate jihadist plots to blow up civilian and other targets inside the homeland. Although the FBI and other agencies addressed the cases at different time periods, the thickening web of terror attempts nevertheless breached the crossing line of U.S. national security.

This week, authorities revealed three conspiracies by American jihadists: Michael C. Finton, 29, who wished to follow American-born Taliban John Walker Lindh, was arrested after trying to detonate what he thought was a bomb inside a van outside a federal courthouse in Springfield, Ill. Hosam Maher Husein Smadi, a 19-year old Jordanian national, was arrested after placing what he believed was a bomb at a downtown Dallas skyscraper.

http://www.newsmax.com/walid_phares/jihadist_terror_qaida/2009/09/28/265683.html

Tues, Death toll rises to 100 or more
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Earthquake in Indonesia came hours after the South Pacific one.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/8282670.stm?ls

Transcript of Ann Curry asking Iran's President about the 12th Iman.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32913296/ns/world_news-mideastn_africa/page/6/

Transcript of Ann Curry asking Iran's President about the 12 Iman.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32913296/ns/world_news-mideastn_africa/page/6/

My heart's Desire

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All people can establish such a connection with the Imam of the age. It's roughly the same as the relationship which exists between Christians and the Christ.

France and Germany are planning a new treaty of friendship and an array of other joint schemes that could push Britain to the sidelines in Europe, according to sources close to President Sarkozy.

The plan to put Paris and Berlin back at the heart of the stalled European Union covers defence, immigration, a new industrial policy and a drive to loosen what the pair see as Britain’s grip on the European Commission.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article6856174.ece

Palestinians in Geneva are already counting on a victory Friday, when they expect the United Nations Human Rights Council to agree to pass the controversial Goldstone Report on to the UN General Assembly in New York, and possibly on to the Security Council.

"We have enough votes," PLO Ambassador to the UN in Geneva Ibrahim Khraishi told The Jerusalem Post on Wednesday, a day after the council held a six-hour debate on the conclusions of the four-person UN fact-finding mission that investigated Operation Cast Lead, Israel's military action in Gaza.

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1254163554772&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

A day before Western leaders were scheduled to open talks with Iran in Switzerland, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad announced on Wednesday that he was prepared to let a third party enrich uranium to the grade his country required for its nuclear reactor, rather than carry out the enrichment itself.

"One of the subjects on the agenda of this negotiation is how we can get fuel for our Teheran reactor," the president was quoted by ISNA news agency as saying, according to AFP.

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1254163553656&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

A majority of American Jews support military action against Iran to prevent the Teheran regime from obtaining nuclear weapons, a new study claims.

Asked if they would support American military action, 56% of American Jews said they would, while just 36% opposed it, according to the American Jewish Committee's 2009 Annual Survey of American Jewish Opinion.

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1254163553245&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

There seems to be a pattern of ever increasing earthquakes of great intensity.

It seems there are more and more earthquakes coming with greater and greater power. It is as if the world is now starting to have labor pains before the Great Tribulation and the glorious Second Coming of the Lord Jesus.


From Nelson’s New Illustrated Bible Dictionary:

THE GREAT TRIBULATION— a short but intense period of distress and suffering at the end of time. The exact phrase, “the great tribulation,” is found only once in the Bible (Rev. 7:14). The great tribulation fulfills Daniel’s prophecies (Daniel 7–12). It will be a time of evil from false christs and false prophets (Mark 13:22) when natural disasters will occur throughout the world.

Matthew 24:7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.

The Lord has warned the US many times against abortion, gay laws and dividing the holy country Israel - Roelof

Boston University economics professor Laurence Kotlikoff says the government “is going broke.”

In a Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis Review article, he points out that bankruptcy is usually defined as an inability to pay interest on current debt, with no prospect of being able to pay without changes in circumstances.

In assessing whether the United States is bankrupt, Kotlikoff drops the first half of the definition, The New York Times reports.

He instead looks at whether Uncle Sam can pay all of its future obligations under reasonable assumptions. The conclusion: probably not.

Kotlikoff cites a paper written by economists Kent Smetters and Jagdeesh Gokhale in 2002. They estimated the gap between all the government’s expected liabilities and its probable revenue at about $60 trillion, depending on the assumptions.

http://moneynews.newsmax.com/streettalk/kotlifoff/2009/09/28/265490.html

World Bank President Robert B. Zoellick warned Monday that, with foreign economic powers rising quickly on the world stage, time is running out for the privileged role enjoyed by the American currency.

The dollar's status as the world's reserve currency has given the U.S. prestige and privileges that are unique in the world, lifting living standards by enabling Americans to borrow cheaply and consume far more than they produce with little consequence for decades.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/sep/29/dollars-days-of-dominance-may-end/?source=newsletter_must-read-stories-today_more_news_carousel

Clear signs of the Great Tribulation - Roelof

Padang - Dazed Asian countries reeled from the full force of nature's fury on Thursday with thousands feared dead in a rapid-fire onslaught of earthquakes, tsunamis and typhoons.

Rescuers picked through rubble after a huge quake struck Indonesia and a towering tsunami deluged the Samoan islands, while millions of flood-hit storm survivors in Southeast Asia braced for a new super-typhoon.

Fresh panic hit the Indonesian island of Sumatra, where another powerful quake hit the day after Wednesday's 7.6-magnitude disaster, sending traumatised residents fleeing their homes.

"Our prediction is that thousands have died," Health Ministry crisis centre head Rustam Pakaya said.

http://www.news24.com/Content/World/News/1073/a7aab64b3d1340ab91caa962dbbd9bf1/01-10-2009-02-09/Disaster-hit_Asia_counts_the_dead


There seems to be a pattern of ever increasing earthquakes of great intensity.

It seems there are more and more earthquakes coming with greater and greater power. It is as if the world is now starting to have labor pains before the Great Tribulation and the glorious Second Coming of the Lord Jesus.


From Nelson’s New Illustrated Bible Dictionary:

THE GREAT TRIBULATION— a short but intense period of distress and suffering at the end of time. The exact phrase, “the great tribulation,” is found only once in the Bible (Rev. 7:14). The great tribulation fulfills Daniel’s prophecies (Daniel 7–12). It will be a time of evil from false christs and false prophets (Mark 13:22) when natural disasters will occur throughout the world.

Matthew 24:7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.

I regard the EU as the Revived Roman Empire - Roelof

Tony Blair is in line to be proclaimed Europe’s first president within weeks if the Irish vote “yes” in today’s referendum.

Senior British sources have told The Times that President Sarkozy has decided that Mr Blair is the best candidate and that Angela Merkel has softened her opposition.

The former Prime Minister could be ushered into the European Union’s top post at a summit on October 29.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article6857807.ece


Roman Empire in 395AD


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Iran pledged yesterday to allow inspectors into its underground uranium enrichment plant in the next two weeks, before a second meeting with world powers to discuss its nuclear ambitions.

During a day of high-stakes talks at an 18th-century villa in Geneva, including the highest-level meeting between Iran and the US in nearly three decades, Tehran agreed in principle to a deal that would take most of its stockpile of nuclear fuel out of the country, diminishing the risk of its diversion to a suspected weapons programme.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article6857570.ece

The most striking observation of diplomats negotiating with the Iranians was the gulf between the belligerent rhetoric pouring out of Tehran in recent days and the intense but more nuanced conversations inside the Geneva villa.

It was unclear before talks began whether Iranian negotiators would even discuss their nuclear programme, given their public posturing about non-negotiable rights. In the end they did, and listened intently to the clarifications they had sought about what exactly was on offer.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article6857590.ece

David Cameron today dug in over Europe and set himself at odds with Boris Johnson by refusing to say whether the Conservative Party would hold a referendum on the Lisbon Treaty if it comes into force before the general election.

The Tory leader will try to face down his party this week in Manchester by claiming that the Conservatives should have “one policy at a time”: to promise to hold a referendum while the treaty is still being debated elsewhere in Europe.

At the same time he will move to reassure the Eurosceptic wing of the party by promising to take back control from Brussels powers over social and employment legislation, which is likely to cause a huge row with other European leaders.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article6860600.ece

Israel's prime minister, Binyamin Netanyahu, has handed the Kremlin a list of Russian scientists believed by the Israelis to be helping Iran to develop a nuclear warhead. He is said to have delivered the list during a mysterious visit to Moscow.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article6860161.ece

A confidential report compiled by senior officials in the United Nations nuclear watchdog claims Iran already has enough knowledge to build a nuclear bomb, The New York Times reported on Sunday.

According to the report, senior staff members of the International Atomic Energy Agency concluded in an analysis that Teheran has acquired "sufficient information to be able to design and produce a workable implosion nuclear device," based on highly-enriched uranium.

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1254393091585&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

Africa also want to share in the New World Order - Roelof

Istanbul - Africa's poorest nations on Sunday demanded representation within the Group of 20 (G20) developed and emerging economies, which was turned into the world's main economic policy forum last week.

http://www.news24.com/Content/Africa/News/965/82b70511fc0242cbaf9369758be99a18/04-10-2009-09-50/Africa_ministers_want_G20_seat

Jerusalem's Muslim residents are "ungrateful," the city's police chief, Cmdr. Aharon Franco said Monday, in the wake of recent clashes between police and Palestinian rioters in the Old City.

Large forces of police and border police were patrolling the city on Monday, as thousands of Jewish worshipers flocked to the Western Wall Plaza for the twice-yearly Priestly Blessing, which went ahead without incident.

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1254673319539&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

The United States should expect the dollar’s status as the world’s primary reserve currency to diminish, according to World Bank President Robert Zoellick (http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/29/business/economy/29dollar.html). He said that as the roles of the euro and Chinese renminbi continue to expand, the dollar will continue to lose its position as the favored world currency.

“The United States would be mistaken to take for granted the dollar’s place as the world’s predominant reserve currency,” Zoellick said on September 28 in a speech (http://web.worldbank.org/WBSITE/EXTERNAL/NEWS/0,,contentMDK:22329125%7EpagePK:34370%7EpiPK:42770 %7EtheSitePK:4607,00.html) at the School for Advanced International Studies at Johns Hopkins University.

http://www.thetrumpet.com/index.php?q=6616.5083.0.0

The greatest leverage Russia has over the United States in foreign policy revolves around the Iranian nuclear crisis. That is why Russia continues to block any moves by the United Nations to impose harsh sanctions on Iran and why President Barack Obama’s strategy to use the UN framework to solve the crisis is doomed to fail.

The closest that Russia came to supporting the idea was after Iran announced on September 25 to the UN that it is building a second nuclear reactor. After the announcement, Russian President Dmitry Medvedev said the second plant (http://en.rian.ru/world/20090925/156256286.html) was “a source of grave concern,” but he fell far short of supporting actual sanctions.

http://www.thetrumpet.com/index.php?q=6611.5078.0.0

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iran/6256173/Mahmoud-Ahmadinejad-revealed-to-have-Jewish-past.html



Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's vitriolic attacks on the Jewish world hide an astonishing secret, evidence uncovered by The Daily Telegraph shows

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iran/6256173/Mahmoud-Ahmadinejad-revealed-to-have-Jewish-past.html


Partaker of Christ

He was born Jewish and he hates the Jews?

This is terrible, this 23-year old terrorist blew up his own anus!! - Roelof

Travellers in Europe could face intrusive airport security measures in response to the latest ploy by al-Qaeda — suicide bombers who carry high explosives inside their bodies, it emerged today.

French anti-terrorism chiefs are expected to recommend widening examinations already used to catch drug smugglers after President Sarkozy’s new domestic intelligence directorate (DCRI) learnt of an attack in Saudi Arabia in which the bomber detonated such a device in his rectum.

Al-Qaeda gave video publicity to its new method tested by Abdullah Hassan al-Asiri, a 23-year-old terrorist, who blew himself apart at a meeting in Jeddah (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article6813107.ece) in late August with Prince Mohammed bin Nayef, the Saudi anti-terrorism chief.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article6862247.ece

Out of all the dust and drama of the past fortnight’s struggle with Iran, I’d say the score is one point for diplomacy — and two points for Iran, in buying yet more time to advance its half-secret nuclear work. Sure, there’s yet another test of its intentions looming, on October 18, and another one six days later. But Iran has again proved world-class at spinning the West’s red lines and deadlines into more months in which to move its work forward.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article6862343.ece

This is very serious information which spells only trouble - Roelof

The most widely touted outcome of last week's Geneva talks with Iran was the "agreement in principle" to send approximately one nuclear-weapon's worth of Iran's low enriched uranium (LEU) to Russia for enrichment to 19.75% and fabrication into fuel rods for Tehran's research reactor. President Barack Obama says the deal represents progress, a significant confidence-building measure.

In fact, the agreement constitutes another in the long string of Iranian negotiating victories over the West. Any momentum toward stricter sanctions has been dissipated, and Iran's fraudulent, repressive regime again hobnobs with the U.N. Security Council's permanent members. Consider the following problems:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703628304574452933624279114.html?m od=djemEditorialPage

Look beyond a possible massive war in the Middle East to the Second Coming of Christ - Roelof

In light of clashes between Arab rioters and security forces in the capital in recent days, senior Palestinian Authority negotiator Saeb Erekat on Tuesday claimed that Israel was responsible for escalating tensions in Jerusalem.

Israel is lighting matches in hopes of igniting a big fire," said Erekat during a press conference.

He claimed Israel was attempting "to strengthen its hold on occupied Jerusalem" rather than keep the peace.

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1254827718327&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

My understanding is that this might protect Israel from possible missile attacks from Iran, who want to wipe Israel from the map - Roelof

Israel and the US are in talks regarding the possibility that America will leave several Patriot 3 missile defense systems behind, following a joint missile defense exercise that will begin next week, defense officials said Monday.

The Juniper Cobra exercise will begin next week in southern Israel, where US and Israeli forces will run simulations on various threat scenarios involving missile attacks against Israel.

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1254756249260&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

Following another day of Arab violence in Jerusalem, access to the Temple Mount was to remain restricted on Tuesday to Muslim men over the age of 50 and women, police said.

Police also announced that they would remain on high alert for the annual Jerusalem March, in which organizers said they expected some 70,000 people from across the world to participate.

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1254756248883&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

This is terrible, this 23-year old terrorist blew up his own anus!! - Roelof

Travellers in Europe could face intrusive airport security measures in response to the latest ploy by al-Qaeda — suicide bombers who carry high explosives inside their bodies, it emerged today.

French anti-terrorism chiefs are expected to recommend widening examinations already used to catch drug smugglers after President Sarkozy’s new domestic intelligence directorate (DCRI) learnt of an attack in Saudi Arabia in which the bomber detonated such a device in his rectum.

Al-Qaeda gave video publicity to its new method tested by Abdullah Hassan al-Asiri, a 23-year-old terrorist, who blew himself apart at a meeting in Jeddah (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article6813107.ece) in late August with Prince Mohammed bin Nayef, the Saudi anti-terrorism chief.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article6862247.ece


Mclean, Virginia - President Barack Obama on Tuesday promised to target al-Qaeda wherever it takes root and to wipe out safe havens where Osama bin Laden's network can plan attacks on the United States.

http://www.news24.com/Content/World/News/1073/1e998c8d60904c528402e976de691696/06-10-2009-10-15/Obama_vows_to_stop_al-Qaeda

Do you think that men are in any way still faithful to their wives in these Last Days? - Roelof

New York - David Letterman's apology to his wife and staff members means another big night in the Nielsen ratings for the late-night talk-show host.

Nielsen didn't immediately have an estimate of the size of Letterman's audience. The overnight rating was slightly less than last Thursday's show, when 5.8 million people watched Letterman say he had been the victim of a $2m blackmail threat that led him to reveal he had sex with staff members.

http://www.news24.com/Content/Entertainment/CelebNews/1048/5a86c1d87a5d4f02a33218c307f42d7b/06-10-2009-10-13/Apology_ups_Late_Show_ratings


You shall not commit adultery. (Exo 20:14)

Obama administration officials at a Senate hearing Tuesday refrained from backing proposed Iran sanctions legislation or giving a deadline for Teheran to halt uranium enrichment during its negotiations with the US and other world powers.

Yet US Deputy Secretary of State James Steinberg said that "we would be prepared to move ahead swiftly and effectively with additional [sanctions] measures" if the talks, which he stressed were not open-ended, failed to bear fruit.

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1254861886014&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. finance executives believe the American economy is still in recession, despite signs growth may have resumed in the third quarter, a survey showed on Tuesday.

About 69 percent of respondents believed the recession, that started in December 2007, would continue well into 2010. Only 11 percent believed the downturn had ended, while 20 percent only saw it winding down before the end of the year.

http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSTRE59569U20091006

California is under the judgment of our Lord for liberal gay and abortion laws - Roelof

California (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/california) has a special place in the American psyche. It is the Golden State: a playground of the rich and famous with perfect weather. It symbolises a lifestyle of sunshine, swimming pools and the Hollywood dream factory.

But the state that was once held up as the epitome of the boundless opportunities of America has collapsed. From its politics to its economy to its environment and way of life, California is like a patient on life support. At the start of summer the state government was so deeply in debt that it began to issue IOUs instead of wages. Its unemployment rate has soared to more than 12%, the highest figure in 70 years.

Desperate to pay off a crippling budget deficit, California is slashing spending in education and healthcare, laying off vast numbers of workers and forcing others to take unpaid leave. In a state made up of sprawling suburbs the collapse of the housing bubble has impoverished millions and kicked tens of thousands of families out of their homes. Its political system is locked in paralysis and the two-term rule of former movie star Arnold Schwarzenegger (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/arnold-schwarzenegger) is seen as a disaster – his approval ratings having sunk to levels that would make George W Bush blush. The crisis is so deep that Professor Kevin Starr, who has written an acclaimed history of the state, recently declared: "California is on the verge of becoming the first failed state in America."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/oct/04/california-failing-state-debt

but sanctify the Lord God in your hearts, and be ready always to give an answer to everyone who asks you a reason of the hope in you, with meekness and fear; (1Pe 3:15)

The percentage of 19-year-olds at college in the state dropped from 43% to 30% between 1996 and 2004, one of the highest falls ever recorded for any developed world economy

Another in a series of quake swarm events struck near Keeler, CA tonight during the 6 p.m. hour.

30 minor to moderate earthquakes struck between 6:09 and 7:10 p.m., according to the United States Geological Survey. The largest shaker was measured at magnitude 5.2 at 6:15 p.m. (http://quake.wr.usgs.gov/recenteqs/Quakes/ci14519780.html) It was preceded by increasingly larger earthquakes at 3.1, 4.7 and 4.9.

Yesterday, another quake swarm struck the same area (http://laist.com/2009/10/01/another_earthquake_swarm_yes_this_t.php) with the largest one at magnitude 5.1. Keeler is 17 miles from Lone Pine and 148 miles from Las Vegas. All the more reason to join the Great California Shakeout (http://www.shakeout.org/) later this month.

http://laist.com/2009/10/02/nearly_30_earthquakes_strike_sierra.php

Do not reject or mock our Holy Lord - Roelof

Earthquakes up to magnitude 5.2 struck Friday evening in a remote area of eastern California that was been shaken by a sequence of temblors a day earlier.

Inyo County sheriff's dispatcher Carol Drew said no damage or injuries were reported, but the department received several calls about the quakes.
The quakes' epicenters were just southeast of the town of Lone Pine in the arid Owens Valley below the eastern slope of the Sierra Nevada, about 180 miles north of Los Angeles.
"It's a very robust sequence," said California Institute of Technology seismologist Anthony Guarino.
The 5.2 quake occurred at 6:15 p.m. at a very shallow depth and was preceded by tremors of 4.7 and 4.9 in a six-minute span, the U.S. Geological Survey said.

http://www.foxnews.com/printer_friendly_story/0,3566,559441,00.html

Obama is openly promoting the gay agenda. Watch out for earthquakes and other natural disasters as the Lord continue to punish the nation - Roelof

President Obama on Monday sidestepped calls for his participation in a national march on Washington for gay rights by opting instead to give the keynote address at a dinner for the major gay rights advocacy group, Human Rights Campaign, on the eve of the event.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/oct/06/obama-to-address-gay-rights-group/?source=newsletter_must-read-stories-today_more_news_carousel


Do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor abusers, nor homosexuals, (1Co 6:9)

Towards a NWO - Roelof

In the most profound financial change in recent Middle East history, Gulf Arabs are planning – along with China, Russia, Japan and France – to end dollar dealings for oil, moving instead to a basket of currencies including the Japanese yen and Chinese yuan, the euro, gold and a new, unified currency planned for nations in the Gulf Co-operation Council, including Saudi Arabia, Abu Dhabi, Kuwait and Qatar.

Secret meetings have already been held by finance ministers and central bank governors in Russia, China, Japan and Brazil to work on the scheme, which will mean that oil will no longer be priced in dollars.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/the-demise-of-the-dollar-1798175.html

This is shocking news - Roelof

President Obama has appointed Kevin Jennings, founder of GLSEN (Gay, Lesbian, Straight Education Network) (http://www.glsen.org) — which sponsored the conference that produced the notorious “Fistgate” scandal (http://www.massresistance.org/docs/issues/fistgate/index.html) (in which young teens were guided on how to perform dangerous homosexual perversions including “fisting”) — to head up “Safe Schools” efforts at the Department of Education.

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2009/10/obamas-school-cza.html

More shocking news - Roelof

A father of a high-school student is infuriated after he said a teacher provided "banned books" to her 11th-grade students, including at least one with explicit descriptions of homosexual sex acts, rape, masturbation, profane language and even bestiality.

John Davis, father of an 11th-grade student at William Byrd High School in Vinton, Va., told WND that English teacher Kathleen Renard provided her personal copy of a book called "Perks of Being a Wallflower" by Stephen Chbosky to one of her English students, and it was passed to his son. The book is published by MTV Books.

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=112014


And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world? (Mat 24:3-14)

And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold. (Mat 24:12)

A coalition of mainline Protestant church clergy have authored a letter promoting abortion. The group sponsoring it intends it to make a statement on abortion funding as members of Congress consider health care bills that fund abortions.

The letter comes from a group of church clergy who have long advocated the pro-abortion position.

Under the umbrella of the Religious Institute, the more than 1,100 pastors and church staff from the denominations endorsed the letter.

The letter calls abortion a “morally justifiable decision”

http://www.lifenews.com/nat5535.html


But the Spirit expressly says that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits and teachings of demons, (1Ti 4:1)

Partaker of Christ
He was born Jewish and he hates the Jews?
Hi, Roelof and Partaker of Christ! Here is an interesting article that says the report of Ahmadinejad being born to a Jewish family is true, according to Britain's intelligence service. Notice in the article that they've found out his family line goes way back to the time of Cyrus the Great. His ancestors moved to Iran from Babylon. Very interesting indeed!


http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=112001 (http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=112001)

Hi, Roelof and Partaker of Christ! Here is an interesting article that says the report of Ahmadinejad being born to a Jewish family is true, according to Britain's intelligence service. Notice in the article that they've found out his family line goes way back to the time of Cyrus the Great. His ancestors moved to Iran from Babylon. Very interesting indeed!


http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=112001 (http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=112001)

wombat

Very interesting

Copied from your link:

MI6 confirms Ahmadinejad's Jewish roots

LONDON – MI6, Britain's Secret Intelligence Service, has established that the greatest living Holocaust denier, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, comes from a Jewish family whose genetic line stretches back hundreds of years and whose members came to Iran when Cyrus the Great liberated them from slavery in Babylon in 593 BC, according to a report from Joseph Farah's G2 Bulletin. (http://g2.wnd.com/)

The man who has spent his years in power calling for Israel to be wiped off the face of the earth has managed to keep totally secret his family history until now.

wombat

Very interesting

Copied from your link:

MI6 confirms Ahmadinejad's Jewish roots

LONDON – MI6, Britain's Secret Intelligence Service, has established that the greatest living Holocaust denier, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, comes from a Jewish family whose genetic line stretches back hundreds of years and whose members came to Iran when Cyrus the Great liberated them from slavery in Babylon in 593 BC, according to a report from Joseph Farah's G2 Bulletin. (http://g2.wnd.com/)

The man who has spent his years in power calling for Israel to be wiped off the face of the earth has managed to keep totally secret his family history until now.
And also from the very top of the WND piece:


Editor's Note: The following report is excerpted from Joseph Farah's G2 Bulletin, (http://g2.wnd.com/) the premium online newsletter published by the founder of WND. Subscriptions are $99 a year or, for monthly trials, just $9.95 per month for credit card users, and provide instant access for the complete reports. (http://g2.wnd.com/) How convenient and enriching. Anyone here going to ante up and actually purchase a subscription to see what it really says?

A coalition of mainline Protestant church clergy have authored a letter promoting abortion. The group sponsoring it intends it to make a statement on abortion funding as members of Congress consider health care bills that fund abortions.

The letter comes from a group of church clergy who have long advocated the pro-abortion position.

Under the umbrella of the Religious Institute, the more than 1,100 pastors and church staff from the denominations endorsed the letter.

The letter calls abortion a “morally justifiable decision”

http://www.lifenews.com/nat5535.html


But the Spirit expressly says that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits and teachings of demons, (1Ti 4:1)



The Denominations named as supporting it are the following:

"The denominations of the clergy who endorsed the letter include the American Baptist Churches, Church of the Brethren, Evangelical Lutheran Church in America, Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.), United Church of Christ, and the United Methodist Church, and others."

Of those the PCUSA and United MEthodist are not exactly a surprise, but I now have to confront my pastor about this because we've been going to an American Baptist church. Please pray for me in this regard.

The Denominations named as supporting it are the following:

"The denominations of the clergy who endorsed the letter include the American Baptist Churches, Church of the Brethren, Evangelical Lutheran Church in America, Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.), United Church of Christ, and the United Methodist Church, and others."

Of those the PCUSA and United MEthodist are not exactly a surprise, but I now have to confront my pastor about this because we've been going to an American Baptist church. Please pray for me in this regard.


Veratax

This is sad news, I will pray for you

Hi Roelof,

Been a while, came across some old news about the Vatican adding some Scrolls found near the Dead Sea in 1947 to the Bible. Was wondering if you had heard anything or could find any recent news on the subject. I couldn't find anything post September 11, 2001 on the topic.

I did find a "Right-Wing" group in America also rewriting the Bible to take out any "Liberal" bias.

Conservative Bible Project (http://conservapedia.com/Conservative_Bible_Project)

:cry: Proverbs 30:6 ~ Do not add to his words, or he will rebuke you and prove you a liar.

Just struck me as crazy that so many people are trying to rewrite the Bible. Screamed End Times Newsworthy to me, so figured I'd say something.

Hope you are doing well.

P.S. I will keep looking for some recent stuff on the topic.

Hi Roelof,

I did find a "Right-Wing" group in America also rewriting the Bible to take out any "Liberal" bias.

Hope you are doing well.

P.S. I will keep looking for some recent stuff on the topic.

White Spider

It is good to hear from you again and I am doing very well
I know the SA Bible Society is working on a 2016 Bible where there will be no discrimation against gays
I know the Vatican has their own Bible which differs a lot from our Bible

Israel is not playing the game anymore, expect war with her neighbors and the PA - Roelof

Israel’s Foreign Minister has ruled out any permanent peace deal for years to come, even as the US envoy to the region called for a swift resumption of peace talks.

Instead of pushing for a final status agreement that would create a Palestinian state, Avigdor Lieberman, the head of the far-right Yisrael Beitenu party, said that the two sides should aim for a series of interim accords.

“What is possible to reach is a long-term intermediate agreement ... that leaves the tough issues for a much later stage,” Mr Lieberman said before the latest visit by George Mitchell, the US envoy appointed this year by President Obama.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article6866686.ece

With police mobilizing to secure Jerusalem following days of Palestinian rioting, it is instructive to offer some context for clashes that have been taking place on the Temple Mount and at scattered sites throughout east Jerusalem.

On Sunday, Palestinian protesters hurled rocks and bottles at police after Israel barred men between the ages of 18 and 45 from ascending the site. That restrictive order was imposed in response to Palestinian Authority calls for Arabs to flood the holy site to protect Al-Aksa Mosque from so-called Jewish extremists.

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1254861893751&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

The head of the International Union for Muslim Scholars, Yusuf Al Qaradawi, is urging Egyptians to turn this Friday into a nationwide day of anger against the "Israeli practices at the Aqsa mosque in Jerusalem."

The Qatar-based cleric flew to Egypt from Doha on Monday to deliver a speech at the Egyptian Journalists' Syndicate in Cairo, where he condemned the Arab governments' silence towards the "violation of Al Aqsa's holiness" by Israeli settlers and occupation forces.

Tensions erupted in the area known as Al Haram Al Sharif to Muslims and the Temple Mount to Jews last week when a group of non-Muslims entered the compound, which is the third holiest venue in Islam and the most important in Judaism.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/babylonbeyond/2009/10/egypt-cleric-calls-for-friday-of-anger-against-al-aqsa-violations.html

I am sure Israel will join the US - Roelof

The US could be in the process of accelerating provisions for a possible attack on Iran, according to an ABC News report published Tuesday.

The report cited a recent Pentagon decision to push for funding to build a "gargantuan bunker-busting bomb called the Massive Ordnance Penetrator (MOP)," originally planned for use in Iraq and Afghanistan.

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1254861887735&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

Amid Arab-Jewish tension surrounding Temple Mount, 5,000 Christian pilgrims from some 80 countries arrive in capital for biblical Feast of Tabernacles. 'Status of Jerusalem as Israel’s capital is once again being assailed,' Christian Embassy Director Hedding says

This week, The International Christian Embassy Jerusalem (ICEJ) is marking the 30th consecutive year in which Christians from all corners of the globe have ascended to Jerusalem to celebrate the biblical Feast of Tabernacles.

More than 5,000 Christian pilgrims from over 80 nations arrived in Jerusalem in recent days to take part in this week-long celebration, making it once again Israel’s largest annual tourist event and the largest solidarity mission to Israel this year.

On Tuesday, during the annual Jerusalem March, Feast pilgrims were in national costumes while others wore specially designed “Jerusalem United” T-shirts to convey Christian support for a "united Jerusalem under Israeli sovereignty."

http://www.ynetnews.com/Ext/Comp/ArticleLayout/CdaArticlePrintPreview/1,2506,L-3787295,00.html

Clear signs of the Great Tribulation and Second Coming

This is a clear sign that the Great Tribulation and the Second Coming are near - Roelof

The earth is breaking, breaking! The earth is crashing, crashing! The earth is tottering, tottering! (Isa 24:19)
Like a drunkard the earth is staggering, staggering! And it rocks to and fro like a tree-hut! And its sins heavy on it; and it shall fall and not rise again. (Isa 24:20)
And it shall be in that day, Jehovah shall punish the host of the high place on high, and on the kings of the earth on the earth. (Isa 24:21)

This article ties the weakening of the San Andreas fault to the 7.6 Lander's California quake which ruptured on June 28, 1992. This is so significant because June 28, 1992, was Gay Pride Day!

San Andreas Affected By 2004 Sumatran Quake; Largest Quakes Can Weaken Fault Zones Worldwide

U.S. seismologists have found evidence that the massive 2004 earthquake that triggered killer tsunamis throughout the Indian Ocean weakened at least a portion of California's famed San Andreas Fault.

The results, which appear this week in the journal Nature, suggest that the Earth's largest earthquakes can weaken fault zones worldwide and may trigger periods of increased global seismic activity.

"An unusually high number of magnitude 8 earthquakes occurred worldwide in 2005 and 2006," said study co-author Fenglin Niu, associate professor of Earth science at Rice University.

Earthquakes are caused when a fault fails, either because of the buildup of stress or because of the weakening of the fault. The latter is more difficult to measure.

The magnitude 9 earthquake in 2004 occurred beneath the ocean west of Sumatra and was the second-largest quake ever measured by seismograph. The temblor spawned tsunamis as large as 100 feet that killed an estimated 230,000, mostly in Indonesia, Sri Lanka, India and Thailand.

The team zeroed in on a set of repeating microearthquakes that occurred near Parkfield over two decades. Each of these tiny quakes originated in almost exactly the same location. By closely comparing seismic readings from these quakes, the team was able to determine the "fault strength" -- the shear stress level required to cause the fault to slip -- at Parkfield between 1987 and 2008.

The team found fault strength changed markedly at three times during the 20-year period. The authors surmised that the 1992 Landers earthquake, a magnitude 7 quake north of Palm Springs, Calif. -- about 200 miles from Parkfield -- caused the first of these changes

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/09/090930132700.htm


From Nelson’s New Illustrated Bible Dictionary:

THE GREAT TRIBULATION— a short but intense period of distress and suffering at the end of time. The exact phrase, “the great tribulation,” is found only once in the Bible (Rev. 7:14). The great tribulation fulfills Daniel’s prophecies (Daniel 7–12). It will be a time of evil from false christs and false prophets (Mark 13:22) when natural disasters will occur throughout the world.

I am sure Israel will join the US - Roelof

The US could be in the process of accelerating provisions for a possible attack on Iran, according to an ABC News report published Tuesday.

The report cited a recent Pentagon decision to push for funding to build a "gargantuan bunker-busting bomb called the Massive Ordnance Penetrator (MOP)," originally planned for use in Iraq and Afghanistan.

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1254861887735&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull


How is this different than MOAB they tested during Bush's term? Mother Of All Bombs?

This is unbelievable!!! Now pres Obama would be in the perfect position to push through the New World Order – Roelof

'Why should Obama be given a peace prize?'

Oslo - US President Barack Obama won the Nobel Peace Prize on Friday for giving the world "hope for a better future" and striving for nuclear disarmament.

The decision to award one of the world's top accolades to a president less than nine months into his first term, who has yet to score a major foreign policy success, came as a big surprise and provoked strong international criticism as well as praise.

The Norwegian Nobel Committee praised Obama for "his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples".

http://www.news24.com/Content/World/News/1073/3fcf9542642247fe91a022e4ee2bbae4/09-10-2009-12-28/Why_should_Obama_be_given_a_peace_prize


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WASHINGTON — President Obama (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/o/barack_obama/index.html?inline=nyt-per) won the Nobel Peace Prize on Friday.

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Doug Mills/The New York Times
President Barack Obama speaking at the United Nations on September 23.

In a stunning surprise, the Nobel Committee announced in Oslo that it has awarded the annual prize to the president “for his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples.” The award cited in particular Mr. Obama’s effort to reduce the world’s nuclear arsenal.
“He has created a new international climate,” the committee said.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/10/world/10nobel.html?_r=1&hp

He is pro-abortion, pro-gay and pro- New World Order!!!

Barack Obama wins Nobel Peace Prize

Barack Obama sensationally won the Nobel Peace Prize today after just nine months in office for returning America to a multilateralist foreign policy after eight years of going it alone under George W Bush.

The Norwegian Nobel Committee said it was honouring the 48-year-old US President for "his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples".

The five jurors, elected by the Norwegian parliament, also said in their citation that they had attached "special importance to Obama's vision of and work for a world without nuclear weapons".

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article6867664.ece

With security forces on high alert throughout the capital after a week of violence in the Old City area, Palestinian rioters clashed with police in the east Jerusalem neighborhood of Ras el-Amud on Friday afternoon.

Five policemen and one border policemen, who were lightly wounded after rioters hurled rocks at them, were treated at the scene. Two men were arrested in the incident.

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1254861908303&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

Group of Seven fights irrelevance in new world order

ISTANBUL (Reuters) - After decades in charge, the club of rich, industrialised nations is fast losing sway as a share of global economic power shifts towards big developing countries.
That was a lesson of the Group of Seven's meeting in Istanbul at the weekend, when the absence of China showed the G7 could no longer tackle the world's economic problems on its own.

Marco Annunziata, chief economist at UniCredit bank in London, said: "Istanbul is being seen by many as the G7's swan song, before it relinquishes power."

The G7's weakness in Istanbul was a far cry from the status it enjoyed before the financial crisis of the past two years.

Founded in 1976 to bring together top financial officials of Britain, Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Japan and the United States, the G7 guided world financial markets for decades.

http://in.reuters.com/article/businessNews/idINIndia-42913120091005

How is this different than MOAB they tested during Bush's term? Mother Of All Bombs?
I think MOAB was a fuel-air explosive (FAE), an airburst weapon, closer to a small yield nuclear weapon, rather than a penetrating bunker buster.

Gasps echoed through the Nobel Hall in Oslo yesterday as Barack Obama was unveiled as the winner of the 2009 Peace Prize, sparking a global outpouring of incredulity and praise in unequal measure.

Mr Obama was sound asleep in the White House when the Norwegian Nobel Committee made the shock announcement. It said that he was being honoured for his “extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and co-operation between peoples”.

In a clear swipe at his predecessor, George W. Bush, the committee praised the “change in the international climate” that the President had brought, along with his cherished goal of ridding the world of nuclear weapons.

“Only very rarely has a person to the same extent as Obama captured the world's attention and given its people hope for a better future,” it added.

International reaction ranged from delight to disbelief. The former winners Kofi Annan and Desmond Tutu voiced praise, the latter lauding the Nobel Committee’s “surprising but imaginative choice”.

But Lech Walesa, the dissident turned Polish President, who won the Peace Prize in 1983, spoke for many, declaring: “So soon? Too early. He has no contribution so far.”

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article6868905.ece

Jerusalem - US Middle East envoy George Mitchell met Palestinian Prime Minister Salam Fayyad on Saturday, a Palestinian official said.

No statement was issued after the meeting, which was held at the US Consulate General.

Public radio said Mitchell, who is struggling to get Israel and the Palestinians to resume peace talks, should be meeting later on Saturday with two advisors to Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

http://www.news24.com/Content/World/News/1073/9962c931ce6447e392f99de1c3de2f55/10-10-2009-07-38/US_envoy_meets_Palestine_PM

Israel and the United States, amid growing tensions with Iran, will simulate interoperability between missile defense systems this week during the biennial Juniper Cobra missile defense exercise.

The exercise, set to simulate a response in the event of war between Israel, the Islamic republic, Syria and Hizbullah, will begin on Monday and end on Friday. More than 1,000 American troops from the European Command in Stuttgart, Germany have deployed in Israel for the exercise - mostly in the Negev - in addition to some 15 missile ships, some of them carrying the Aegis ballistic missile defense system.

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1255204765487&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

Former Polish president and 1983 Nobel Peace Prize laureate Lech Walesa probably summed up the reaction of many in Israel when he responded to the stunning announcement on Friday that US President Barack Obama won this year's Nobel Peace Prize prize by saying, "So soon? Too early. He has no contribution so far."

Obama himself acknowledged this when he said on Friday, upon accepting the award, "The Nobel Peace Prize has not just been used to honor specific achievement; it's also been used as a means to give momentum to a set of causes."

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1255204765143&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

1987 was two years before 1989, which I regard as the start of the Last Days - Roelof

The gay victory

You shall not lie with mankind as with womankind. It is abomination to God. (Lev 18:22)


"On October 19, 1987, the Stock Market dropped over 500 points for the greatest one-day crash in history. The crash resulted in a one-day drop of 22.6 percent in the market and a loss of over 500 billion dollars.

The LORD led me into this ministry on the very day of great stock market crash of 1987, when the market fell 508 points for a one day record at that time. This crash followed six business days after the greatest homosexual rally in history on October 11, 1987. At that time, this was the greatest one day crash next to October 1929.

The homosexuals were marching for their rights and were supported by many politicians and civic leaders. Now, on October 11, exactly 22 years later the homosexuals are once again marching. In the ensuing 22 short years they fulfilled most of their agenda. The one remaining crown for them is the legalization of sodomite marriage. They have succeeded in about seven states, but have been blocked in many states, plus the Defense of Marriage Act.

On October 10, the president will address a dinner for the march. He is an outspoken supporter of homosexuality and has appointed many of them to positions of power. How America has fallen in just 22 years.

The march this Sunday, October 11, is for sodomite marriage, which is the ultimate in rebellion against the Holy God of Israel

The economy is in shambles and melting away. All the warning signs are there for the collapse of the dollar.

The LORD first put America on notice as a result of the homosexual march in 1987.

http://johnmcternansinsights.blogspot.com/

I regard the EU as the Revived Roman Empire and expect the Antichrist to come from this "king". Keep your eyes on the Second Coming of Christ - Roelof

EU draws up plans to establish itself as 'world power'

The European Union has drawn up secret plans to establish itself as a global power in its own right with the authority to sign international agreements on behalf of member states.

Published: 7:00AM BST 07 Oct 2009
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01496/EU_flag_1496893c.jpg


According to one confidential paper, the first pilot 'embassies' are planned in New York, Kabul and Addis Ababa. Photo: GETTY

Confidential negotiations on how to implement the Lisbon Treaty have produced proposals to allow the EU to negotiate treaties and even open embassies across the world.

A letter conferring a full "legal personality" for the Union has been drafted in order for a new European diplomatic service to be recognised as fully fledged negotiators by international bodies and all non-EU countries.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/6266147/EU-draws-up-plans-to-establish-itself-as-world-power.html

A top official with Iran's most powerful military force—the Revolutionary Guard—says Tehran will "blow up the heart of Israel (http://topics.breitbart.com/israel/)" if the Jewish state or the United States (http://topics.breitbart.com/United+States/) attacked Iran.

Cleric Mojtaba Zolnour, the Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei's representative in the Guard, says that if a single U.S. or Israeli missile lands in Iran, Iranian missiles will hit Israel before the dust settles.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D9B7GH200&show_article=1

The price of gold is surging on world markets amid fears that the old economic order based on the supremacy of the US dollar could be breaking down.


A new spike has sent the cost of the precious metal to a level not seen before. The dollar slid sharply after yesterday's report in The Independent that Gulf Arab states are secretly planning to stop trading oil in dollars

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/dollar-tumbles-on-report-of-its-demise-1798713.html

America's jobless crisis is much worse than the 9.8 percent unemployment rate reported Friday. To understand how there are many more unemployed than the government reports, it's necessary to look at the numbers used by the Bureau of Labor Statistics to calculate the unemployment rate. The Household Survey numbers paint a bleak picture that no one is discussing.

In September, the economy saw a net loss of 785,000 jobs. This amounts to twice the 392,000 loss in August and five times the 155,000 loss in July.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/oct/06/jobless-rate-hits-17-percent/

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Barack Obama (http://www.reuters.com/news/globalcoverage/barackobama), speaking on the eve of a major gay-rights march, told gay supporters on Saturday he would fight for their causes and renewed a pledge to end restrictions on their service in the U.S. military.

To a standing ovation at a dinner held by the Human Rights Campaign, a gay advocacy group, Obama said he would "end 'don't ask, don't tell,' That's my commitment to you."

Obama, who was referring to the policy prohibiting openly gay people from serving in the U.S. military, was seeking to shore up his support among gays and lesbians who backed him strongly during last year's presidential campaign.

http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSTRE59A05K20091011

U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said on Sunday that international powers would not wait forever for Iran (http://www.reuters.com/news/globalcoverage/iran) to prove it was not developing nuclear bombs.

British foreign minister David Miliband, whom Clinton met in London, said Iran (http://www.reuters.com/news/globalcoverage/iran) would never have a better opportunity to establish normal ties with the rest of the world but that it had to start behaving like a "normal country."

http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSTRE59A0NA20091011

Hi, Roelof! This news is something all of us Internet users should take close note about. President Obama appears to have given up on keeping the U.S. in the position of protector of the Internet, as the Commerce Department has failed to renew its contract of overseeing the work of ICANN. Instead the U.S. will participate in a Governmental Advisory Committee with 3 dozen other countries whose recommendations won't even be binding on ICANN. According to the following Wall Street Journal article, mass censorship of the Internet may result from lack of oversight. While I am all for censoring pornography and immorality, it is quite possible that censorship of political or religious views will become a huge problem for us who share our faith with others online.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704471504574446942665685208.html?m od=djemEditorialPage (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704471504574446942665685208.html?m od=djemEditorialPage)

Hi, Roelof! Turkey and Armenia just signed a historic peace agreement that ended the conflict between them that started way back in the days of World War I. It establishes diplomatic ties and reopens their borders. Sounds like their parliaments still have to make final approvals, but the agreement was signed by their foreign ministers. This is interesting news in light of the alliance of nations that will be a part of the Gog of Magog war. Here are two articles for you. The first one tells about the signing of the agreement, the second tells about how it may be related to the Gog war. If the one at Bible Prophecy Today doesn't show up when you go to it, scroll down aways or check out the "Older Posts" link at the bottom of the screen. They move articles around fairly fast as new ones come in, so it may be in a different spot when you go to take a look at it.


http://www.euronews.net/2009/10/10/turkey-and-armenia-sign-historic-peace-agreement/ (http://www.euronews.net/2009/10/10/turkey-and-armenia-sign-historic-peace-agreement/)


http://bible-prophecy-today.blogspot.com/ (http://bible-prophecy-today.blogspot.com/)

Hi, Roelof! This news is something all of us Internet users should take close note about. President Obama appears to have given up on keeping the U.S. in the position of protector of the Internet, as the Commerce Department has failed to renew its contract of overseeing the work of ICANN. Instead the U.S. will participate in a Governmental Advisory Committee with 3 dozen other countries whose recommendations won't even be binding on ICANN. According to the following Wall Street Journal article, mass censorship of the Internet may result from lack of oversight. While I am all for censoring pornography and immorality, it is quite possible that censorship of political or religious views will become a huge problem for us who share our faith with others online.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704471504574446942665685208.html?m od=djemEditorialPage (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704471504574446942665685208.html?m od=djemEditorialPage)




The European Union has urged a different scheme in which a G-12 of advanced countries would manage the Internet


:hmm: I wonder who the G-12 will be?

Hi, Roelof! Turkey and Armenia just signed a historic peace agreement that ended the conflict between them that started way back in the days of World War I. It establishes diplomatic ties and reopens their borders. Sounds like their parliaments still have to make final approvals, but the agreement was signed by their foreign ministers. This is interesting news in light of the alliance of nations that will be a part of the Gog of Magog war. Here are two articles for you. The first one tells about the signing of the agreement, the second tells about how it may be related to the Gog war. If the one at Bible Prophecy Today doesn't show up when you go to it, scroll down aways or check out the "Older Posts" link at the bottom of the screen. They move articles around fairly fast as new ones come in, so it may be in a different spot when you go to take a look at it.


http://www.euronews.net/2009/10/10/turkey-and-armenia-sign-historic-peace-agreement/ (http://www.euronews.net/2009/10/10/turkey-and-armenia-sign-historic-peace-agreement/)


http://bible-prophecy-today.blogspot.com/ (http://bible-prophecy-today.blogspot.com/)

Hi Wombat!

Just to let you know, that this post of yours, is the sixth post on page sixty six :lol: :lol:

Hi Wombat! Just to let you know, that this post of yours, is the sixth post on page sixty six :lol: :lol:
:spin: Oh, no! Can I trade places with someone else's post here? I don't like the sounds of that number! :spin:

It is the goal of George Soros to drive down the dollar and reduce the U.S. role in World Finance, Politics and Militarily. He pounded the British pound:( in the 1990's. He believes the U.S. needs to be brought down in the New World Order.

Hi, Roelof! This news is something all of us Internet users should take close note about. President Obama appears to have given up on keeping the U.S. in the position of protector of the Internet, as the Commerce Department has failed to renew its contract of overseeing the work of ICANN. Instead the U.S. will participate in a Governmental Advisory Committee with 3 dozen other countries whose recommendations won't even be binding on ICANN. According to the following Wall Street Journal article, mass censorship of the Internet may result from lack of oversight. While I am all for censoring pornography and immorality, it is quite possible that censorship of political or religious views will become a huge problem for us who share our faith with others online.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704471504574446942665685208.html?m od=djemEditorialPage (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704471504574446942665685208.html?m od=djemEditorialPage)

wombat

Thanks for the info
I watched DVD's of the International Prophesy Conference that was held in the US. There it was mentioned that 80% of all information on the Web is pornography, which is shocking !!!

Hi, Roelof! Turkey and Armenia just signed a historic peace agreement that ended the conflict between them that started way back in the days of World War I. It establishes diplomatic ties and reopens their borders. Sounds like their parliaments still have to make final approvals, but the agreement was signed by their foreign ministers. This is interesting news in light of the alliance of nations that will be a part of the Gog of Magog war. Here are two articles for you. The first one tells about the signing of the agreement, the second tells about how it may be related to the Gog war.

http://www.euronews.net/2009/10/10/turkey-and-armenia-sign-historic-peace-agreement/ (http://www.euronews.net/2009/10/10/turkey-and-armenia-sign-historic-peace-agreement/)

http://bible-prophecy-today.blogspot.com/ (http://bible-prophecy-today.blogspot.com/)

wombat

It is great that you keep us up to date

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Quakes shake scientific thought

Sydney - A sudden cluster of massive earthquakes which has shaken Asia-Pacific communities and likely left thousands dead has also jolted some scientists, who are starting to question conventional thought.

Experts who dismissed notions that far-away quakes could be linked are beginning to think again after huge tremors rocked Samoa and Indonesia on the same day, followed by another major convulsion in Vanuatu.

Some 184 people died in the terrifying tsunami which smashed Samoa, American Samoa and Tonga on September 30, while thousands are feared dead after parts of Indonesia's Padang city were reduced to rubble just hours later.

On Thursday, thousands of panicked people fled the coast as a rapid succession of large quakes off Vanuatu set off a tsunami warning for much of the South Pacific.

The "remarkable" sequence has prompted veteran earthquake-watcher Gary Gibson to tear up his theory it was all down to chance and search for a possible connection.

"It's remarkable. I've been working on this for 30 years and never seen it before," said Gibson.

http://www.news24.com/Content/SciTech/News/1132/19013c90f60d40aa9d80dcd205b82ca2/11-10-2009-07-10/Quakes_shake_scientific_thought


From Nelson’s New Illustrated Bible Dictionary:

THE GREAT TRIBULATION— a short but intense period of distress and suffering at the end of time. The exact phrase, “the great tribulation,” is found only once in the Bible (Rev. 7:14). The great tribulation fulfills Daniel’s prophecies (Daniel 7–12). It will be a time of evil from false christs and false prophets (Mark 13:22) when natural disasters will occur throughout the world.

Gay Rights Supporters March in Washington

Thousands of gay and lesbian protesters converged on the White House and Capitol demanding civil rights protections in all 50 states. It was the largest demonstration for gay rights in Washington in nearly a decade.

http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2009/10/12/us/20091012-MARCH_index.html?hp

Open the link for a slide show

The US is under the judgment of the Lord for liberal gay and abortion laws

Jesus loves all gays and desire that they repent their sins

Do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor abusers, nor homosexuals, (1Co 6:9)

Obama is pro-gay. Watch out for natural disasters in the US as people reject the Lord - Roelof

Gay activists demand action from Obama on 'don't ask, don't tell' legislation

Tens of thousands of gay and lesbian activists gathered for a march in Washington yesterday, demanding that President Obama keep promises to protect their rights — including addressing the vexed issue of gays in the military.

“We’re out, we’re proud, we won’t back down,” the crowd chanted, waving rainbow flags before beginning their march from the White House to the Capitol.

Speaking on Saturday at an annual dinner of the Human Rights Campaign, America’s biggest gay advocacy group, the President renewed a promise to overturn a Clinton-era law requiring gays to keep their sexual orientation secret when serving in the military. He was criticised, however, for once again failing to set a timetable for repealing the law.
“I will end ‘don’t ask, don’t tell’,” Mr Obama declared, receiving a standing ovation from the 3,000-strong audience.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article6870202.ece

Obama's Gay Outreach: All Talk, No Action

By John Cloud (http://javascript<b></b>:void(0)) Sunday, Oct. 11, 2009


http://img.timeinc.net/time/daily/2009/0910/obama_hrc_1010.jpg

President Obama waves as he arrives at the 13th Annual National Dinner of the Human Right Campaign October 10, 2009 in Washington

Saturday night President Obama charmingly delivered a rather bleak message to the gay community on the eve of its latest march on Washington. In a speech to the world's largest gay political group, the Human Rights Campaign, Obama essentially said two things: I'm with you. But I can't do much for you.

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1929687,00.html


Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination. (Lev 18:22, KJV)

You shall not lie with mankind as with womankind. It is abomination to God. (Lev 18:22, NKJV)

It is disgusting for a man to have sex with another man. (Lev 18:22, CEV)

You may not have sex relations with men, as you do with women: it is a disgusting thing. (Lev 18:22, BBE)

My view point is that the Last Days started in 1989 - Roelof

The Next Step for the E.U.

The Irish question — the 21st century version of it, not the one that so vexed Victorian statesmen — has been settled. Ireland's Oct. 2 referendum vote in favor of the Lisbon Treaty and a new constitutional settlement for the European Union was decisive. It seems highly likely that Poland and the Czech Republic, the two holdouts in the process of ratifying the new treaty, will fall into line soon, however much it may pain Czech President Vaclav Klaus, the Saint-Just of Euroskepticism, to sign the document. By the beginning of next year, new institutional arrangements for the E.U. will be in place.

Then what? First, perhaps, a pause for breath. In 1989, when the Berlin Wall came down, there were 12 members of the European Community, as the E.U. was then known. Now there are 27. Inevitably, institutional reform of this metastasizing body has dominated debate for years, as its members have tried to figure how to make the damn thing work. The attention of political leaders has been directed inward, at just the time when tectonic movements outside Europe — the revival of political Islam, the economic rise of Asia — have both threatened and diminished Europe's centrality in world affairs.

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1929150,00.html



http://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01496/EU_flag_1496893c.jpg

I do not always fully agree with the articles I post, but sometimes place them for diversity and interest sake - Roelof

Our country has been taken over by the enemy. George Washington and Patrick Henry are turning over in their graves.

I am not a conspiracy theorist, but the plot is so blatant it would not surprise me if it were initially hatched in the bowels of the Kremlin, or in some Arab desert tent, or both.

"Make no mistake. We're now in the middle of a bloodless coup – the takeover of an entire nation by the hate-America crowd – a cold-blooded gang that despises America's prosperity, our standing in the world, our trust in God and our generosity and goodness," says political activist Floyd Brown in a post on the new Impeach Obama Campaign website. (http://www.impeachobamacampaign.com/) See http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=112098 (http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=112098).

Is Barack Hussein Obama a Russian mole? The collective evidence gives credence to last year's testimony by a businessman named Tom Fife, which at the time seemed ridiculous. Tom relates that in Russia in 1992 a businessman's wife told him, "What if I told you that you will have a black president very soon and he will be a Communist?" The out-of-the-blue remark was met by our stares. She continued, "Well, you will; and he will be a Communist." See full story at http://www.americantownmeeting.com/Essays.php. (http://www.americantownmeeting.com/Essays.php.%A0)Events since January 2009 support the veracity of that story.

Somehow this ties into his spending over $1 million to hide his birth and college records, the latter of which might reveal who financed him and whose puppet he is. To top things off, there is evidence that he is an imposter, pulling the con job of history.

It is no accident that Barack Hussein Obama's principal mentors have been avowed Marxist Frank Marshal Davis, avowed Marxist Paul Robeson, anti-American terrorist William Ayers, anti-American radical Saul Alinsky, and anti-American Jeremiah Wright. Those people are an indelible part of Obama's life, and have shaped his thinking. They have made him what he is.

Who could expect Obama to be anything more than what he is? Who could have missed it? Oh, of course -- the lapdog mainstream news media.

The character of a person is known by the company he keeps. Consider the above anti-American Marxists and terrorists, plus the 32 "czars" he has chosen. See below. How can anyone come up with a such a cast of bad characters? Have you ever heard of such a collection of weirdos?

CZARS:

Afghanistan Czar: Richard Holbrooke- Ultra liberal anti gun former Gov.of New Mexico . Pro Abortion and legal drug use.
AIDS Czar: Jeffrey Crowley Homosexual. A Gay Rights activist. Believes in Gay Marriage and wants free health care for all gays.
Auto recovery Czar: Ed Montgomery- Black radical anti business activist. Affirmative Action and Job Preference for blacks. Univ of Maryland Business School Dean teaches US business has caused world poverty. ACORN board
member. Communist DuBois Club member.
Border Czar: Alan Bersin- former failed superintendent of San Diego . Ultra Liberal friend of Hilary Clinton. Served as Border Czar under Janet Reno - to keep borders open to illegals
California Water Czar: David J. Hayes Sr. Fellow of radical environmentalist group, "Progress Policy". No training or experience in water management.
< http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0909/26779.html#%23 (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0909/26779.html#%23) >
Car Czar: Ron Bloom- Auto Union worker. Anti business & anti nuclear. Has worked hard to force US auto makers out of business. Sits on the Board of Chrysler which is now Auto Union owned. How did this happen?
Central Region Czar: Dennis Ross- Believes US policy has caused Mid East wars. Obama apologist to the world. Anti gun and pro abortion.
Domestic Violence Czar: Lynn Rosenthal- Director of the National Network to End Domestic Violence. Vicious anti male feminist. Supported male castration.
Drug Czar: Gil Kerlikowske- devoted lobbyist for every restrictive gun law proposal, Former Chief of Police in Liberal Seattle . Believes no American should own a firearm. Supports legalization of drugs.
Economic Czar: Paul Volcker -Head of Fed Reserve under Jimmy Carter when US economy nearly failed.
< http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0909/26779.html#%23 (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0909/26779.html#%23) > Obama appointed head of the Economic Recovery Advisory Board which engineered the Obama economic disaster to US economy. Member of anti business "Progressive Policy" organization.
Energy and Environment Czar: Carol Brower- Political Radical �Former head of EPA -- known for anti-business activism. Strong anti-gun ownership.
Faith-Based Czar: Joshua DuBois Political Black activist-Degree in Black Nationalism. Anti gun ownership lobyist.
Great Lakes Czar: Cameron Davis- Chicago radical anti business environmentalist. Blames George Bush for "Poisoning the water that minorities have to drink." No experience or training in water management. Former ACORN Board member
Green Jobs Czar: Van Jones- (since resigned). Black activist Member of American communist Party and San Francisco Communist Party who said Geo Bush caused the 911 attack and wanted Bush investigated by the World Court for war crimes. Black activist with strong anti-white views.
Guantanamo Closure Czar: Daniel Fried -Rights activist for Foreign Terrorists. Believes America has caused the war on terrorism.
Health Czar: Nancy-Ann DeParle. Former head of Medicare / Medicaid. Strong Health Care Rationing proponent. She is married to a reporter for The New York Times
< http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_New_York_Times (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_New_York_Times)> .
Information Czar: Vivek Kundra- born in New Delhi, India
< http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Delhi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Delhi)>
< http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/India (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/India)> .
Controls all public information, including labels and news releases. Monitors all private Internet emails.
International Climate Czar: Todd Stern- Anti business former White House chief of Staff- Strong supportrer of the Kyoto Accord. Pushing hard for Cap and Trade. Blames US business for Global warming.
Intelligence Czar: Dennis Blair- Ret Navy. Stopped US guided missile program as "provocative". Chair of ultra liberal "Council on Foreign Relations" which blames American organizations for regional wars.
Mideast Peace Czar: George Mitchell Fmr. Sen from Maine- Left wing radical. Has said Israel should be split up into "2 or 3 " smaller more manageable plots". Anti-nuclear anti-gun & pro homosexual.
Pay Czar: Kenneth Feinberg- Chief of Staff to TED KENNEDY. Lawyer who got rich off the 911 victims payoffs.
Regulatory Czar: Cass Sunstein- Liberal activist judge-believes free speech needs to be limited for the "common good". Rules against personal freedoms many times -like private gun ownership.
Safe School Czar: Kevin Jennings....Strong Supporter of "NAMBLA" (North American Man/Boy Love Association.) In other words, he supports PEDOPHILIA and he is Obama's Safe School Czar!
Science Czar: John Holdren- Fierce ideological environmentalist, Sierra Club, Anti business activist. Claims US business has caused world poverty. No Science training.
Stimulus Accountability Czar: Earl Devaney- spent career trying to take guns away from American citizens. Believes in Open Borders to Mexico . Author of statement blaming US gun stores for drug war in Mexico.
Sudan Czar: J. Scott Gration- Native of Democratic Republic of Congo
< http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Republic_of_Congo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Republic_of_Congo)> . Believes US does little to help Third World countries. Council of foreign relations, asking for higher US taxes to support United Nations.
TARP Czar: Herb Allison- Fannie May CEO responsible for the US recession by using real estate mortgages to back up the US stock market. Caused millions of people to lose their life savings.
Terrorism Czar: John Brennan- Anti CIA activist. No training in diplomatic or gov. affairs. Believes Open Borders to Mexico and a dialog with terrorists and has suggested Obama disband US military.
Technology Czar : Aneesh Chopra- No Technology training. Worked for the Advisory Board Company, a health care think tank for hospitals. Anti doctor activist.
Congratulatons, Ammerica.< http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0909/26779.html#%23 (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0909/26779.html#%23)>
Supports Obama Health care Rationing and salaried doctors working exclusively for the Gov. health care plan.
Urban Affairs Czar: Adolfo Carrion Jr.- Puerto Rican. Anti American activist and leftist group member in Latin America . Millionaire "slum lord" of the Bronx , NY. Owns many lavish homes and condos which he got from "sweetheart" deals with labor unions. Wants higher taxes to pay for minority housing and health care.
Weapons Czar: Ashton Carter- Leftist. Wants all private weapons in US destroyed. Supports UN ban on firearms ownership in America . No Other "policy"
http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/oct2009/jim109.htm

When reading the article notice how many of Obama's advisers are sex deviates. This is exactly what took place in Fascist Nazi Germany. Hitler was surrounded by all sorts of sexual deviates

Seven major earthquakes in 24 hours

Something seismically remarkable has happened in the South Pacific: In one 24-hour period this week no less than seven major earthquakes have rocked (http://dsc.discovery.com/discovery-earth-live/#story=latest-earthquakes) a small area near Vanuatu and the Santa Cruz Islands.

"It's not unprecedented, but getting three events above 7 is unusual," said seismic researcher Susan Hough of the U.S. Geological Survey.

http://dsc.discovery.com/news/2009/10/09/earthquake-swarm.html

My view point is that Imam, the Muslim messiah, could be the Final Antichrist - Roelof

During an interview (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BjL5GME-Oo) with Mahmoud Ahmadinejad recently, msnbc’s Ann Curry confronted the Iranian president with a provocative question about his spiritual beliefs.

“In your speeches, you pray for God to hasten the arrival of the hidden imam, the Muslim messiah,” stated Curry (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32913296/ns/world_news-mideastn_africa/print/1/displaymode/1098/). “What is your relationship with the hidden imam, and how soon do you think before the second coming?”

Ahmadinejad’s response, delivered rather nonchalantly, was non-specific and concocted to appeal to his American audience. “Yes, that’s true,” he replied. “I prayed for the arrival of the 12th imam. … When the imam arrives, all [the world’s problems] will be resolved. And a prayer for the owner of the age is nothing but a wish for justice and brotherly love to prevail around the world.”

http://www.thetrumpet.com/index.php?q=6628.5096.0.0

WASHINGTON — Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton says she thinks President Barack Obama was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize because of "his attitude toward America's role in the world."

"His willingness to really kind of challenge everyone ... restores a kind of image and appreciation of our country," Clinton said in an NBC "Today" show interview broadcast Monday.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jRUYRN6l27zapdQimTs45scYCypgD9B9HB200

I expect major climate changes just before the Great Tribulation, which is now and during the Great Tribulation - Roelof

Washington - Nasa is set to begin the most extensive aerial survey of Earth's surface to chart the impact of global warming, with six years of flights over Antarctica to understand the frozen continent's glaciers and ice sheets.

The US space agency said the massive aerial survey, part of a programme dubbed Operation Ice Bridge, will get underway on Thursday.

Data gathered during the mission will help scientists predict how changes to the massive Antarctic ice sheet will contribute to a rise in sea levels around the world.

Researchers will work from Nasa's DC-8, an airborne laboratory equipped with laser mapping instruments, ice-penetrating radar and gravity instruments.

http://www.news24.com/Content/SciTech/News/1132/91abf5221b5c44e183c76830e9087b01/12-10-2009-10-39/Nasa_to_begin_climate_survey_


From Nelson’s New Illustrated Bible Dictionary:

THE GREAT TRIBULATION— a short but intense period of distress and suffering at the end of time. The exact phrase, “the great tribulation,” is found only once in the Bible (Rev. 7:14). The great tribulation fulfills Daniel’s prophecies (Daniel 7–12). It will be a time of evil from false christs and false prophets (Mark 13:22) when natural disasters will occur throughout the world.

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A leading U.S. Senate Democrat said on Sunday he expects President Barack Obama (http://www.reuters.com/news/globalcoverage/barackobama) to keep a renewed vow to end discrimination against gays in the military, but that Obama should do so with the support of the Pentagon.

Senate Armed Service Committee Chairman Carl Levin said the British and other Western armies have ended such discrimination and that it would be "great progress" for the United States to do it as well.

But Levin added: "It has to be done in the right way, which is to get a buy-in from the (U.S.) military (that) I think is now possible."

http://www.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idUSN117302920091011


And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust toward one another; males with males working out shamefulness, and receiving in themselves the recompense which was fitting for their error. (Rom 1:27)

My view point is that his Nobel Prize for Peace would be a rocket to help Obama implement a mature New World Order - Roelof

But if "premature" is the word for Nobel's scanning of reports of his own demise, then it is also the most polite word for the award of the Nobel Peace Prize to our 44th president in the first year of his first term. Up until now, the annual awards for "peace," bestowed by right-thinking Scandinavians, have been of five distinct types:

1. For service to diplomacy and realpolitik.
2. For service to cynicism, opportunism, and hypocrisy.
3. For service to human rights.
4. For service to random but vague feelings of good will.
5. For fealty to supranational institutions and to the United Nations and its cadet or satellite outfits.

http://www.newsweek.com/id/217107

A suspected suicide bomber killed 41 people in an attack on the Pakistani military today as the Taleban claimed responsibility for a weekend raid on the army’s headquarters.

Militant attacks have intensified over the past week as the army prepares to launch a ground offensive on the al-Qaeda-linked fighters’ South Waziristan stronghold

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article6871186.ece