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timmyb
Sep 3rd 2009, 07:13 PM
I have always heard this spoken in church, but I'm not sure where it says it in the Bible. It would make sense to me considering he is surrounded with praise in Isaiah, Ezekiel, and Revelation. But is there a specific verse that says that God inhabits our praises?

ZAB
Sep 3rd 2009, 07:38 PM
I have always heard this spoken in church, but I'm not sure where it says it in the Bible. It would make sense to me considering he is surrounded with praise in Isaiah, Ezekiel, and Revelation. But is there a specific verse that says that God inhabits our praises?

Psa 22:3 But thou art holy, O thou that inhabitest the praises of Israel.

Z.

timmyb
Sep 3rd 2009, 07:41 PM
Psa 22:3 But thou art holy, O thou that inhabitest the praises of Israel.

Z.


my bible says enthroned instead of inhabits... same thing i guess...

any other verses?

JohnDB
Sep 3rd 2009, 07:58 PM
Ps 22:4 ve'atah qadovsh yosheb tehilovt yisera'el
and you / holy one/ settled in / praise of/ Israel

What this is about is a reference to the Ark of the Covenant. The Ark had a mercy seat in which God was enthroned upon. The adjective "settled in/Live in/enthroned in isn't a verb in the sense that you are thinking it is. This is why the NIV translates this section:

Ps 22:3 Yet you are enthroned as the Holy One; you are the praise of Israel

It is more about God being present and active and not inactive as viewed by the Common Man.

timmyb
Sep 3rd 2009, 08:15 PM
Ps 22:4 ve'atah qadovsh yosheb tehilovt yisera'el
and you / holy one/ settled in / praise of/ Israel

What this is about is a reference to the Ark of the Covenant. The Ark had a mercy seat in which God was enthroned upon. The adjective "settled in/Live in/enthroned in isn't a verb in the sense that you are thinking it is. This is why the NIV translates this section:

Ps 22:3 Yet you are enthroned as the Holy One; you are the praise of Israel

It is more about God being present and active and not inactive as viewed by the Common Man.

I really don't see too much of a difference... enthroned and inhabiting is pretty much the same thing

JohnDB
Sep 3rd 2009, 08:41 PM
I really don't see too much of a difference... enthroned and inhabiting is pretty much the same thing

The difference being that this is an Adjective....not a verb

Meaning that God isn't enthroned in our praises...his throne is/was the Mercy Seat on the Ark of the covenant. Today it is in our hearts.

Our praises come and go...depending upon our mood...God, however, is eternal. He is the praise of Israel...He is the pride and joy of every believer.

theBelovedDisciple
Sep 3rd 2009, 09:10 PM
Peter writes and equates the beleiver as being a 'lively stone'... as a built up spiritual house (the body:soul and spirit), a holy priesthood to offer up spiritual sacrafices, acceptable to God the Father..... thru the Lord Jesus Christ. I Peter 2:5
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God does indeed inhabit the Praises of His People... and when we enter into Praise.. whether its in brokenness and contriteness or full Joy over His Victory .. He is There.. It's done thru the Spirit and Truth.. and comes from a Heart that has been Redeemed by the Almighty.. made soft and pliable by the Master Potter..

those that Worship God must worship Him in Spirit and In Truth... for those are the People He seeks.. those will do just that...

God HImself deserves all the Praise and Glory.. and He does Inhabit the Praises of His Own People... these who worship in Spirit and Truth..

praise other than that.. will probably fall on 'deaf ears' of the Almighty..

Is He there amongst all the glizt and glitter and glamour? the bright lights and showmanship of people?

one would have to ask oneself.. who is it glorifying . the Person or God Himself...


If your Truly Born again.. you will begin to offer up spiritual sacrafices.. Praise and Worship... and He is there.... He Inhabits those.. for His Ears are open to the Righteous and His Eyes are over them...

timmyb
Sep 3rd 2009, 09:15 PM
amen my friend...

Our bodies are a temple to God and the temple was a house of worship.

JohnDB
Sep 3rd 2009, 09:18 PM
Peter writes and equates the beleiver as being a 'lively stone'... as a built up spiritual house (the body:soul and spirit), a holy priesthood to offer up spiritual sacrafices, acceptable to God the Father..... thru the Lord Jesus Christ. I Peter 2:5
-------------------------------------------------------------

God does indeed inhabit the Praises of His People... and when we enter into Praise.. whether its in brokenness and contriteness or full Joy over His Victory .. He is There.. It's done thru the Spirit and Truth.. and comes from a Heart that has been Redeemed by the Almighty.. made soft and pliable by the Master Potter..

those that Worship God must worship Him in Spirit and In Truth... for those are the People He seeks.. those will do just that...

God HImself deserves all the Praise and Glory.. and He does Inhabit the Praises of His Own People... these who worship in Spirit and Truth..

praise other than that.. will probably fall on 'deaf ears' of the Almighty..

Is He there amongst all the glizt and glitter and glamour? the bright lights and showmanship of people?

one would have to ask oneself.. who is it glorifying . the Person or God Himself...


If your Truly Born again.. you will begin to offer up spiritual sacrafices.. Praise and Worship... and He is there.... He Inhabits those.. for His Ears are open to the Righteous and His Eyes are over them...

So...
Are you saying that the translation of the NIV is for some purpose other than a straight "thought for thought" translation of the Bible?

Enthroned may be a verb...but in this case it is in the Qual form...meaning it is an adgective in this case....the verb in this song is "are"...and it isn't an adverb.

There are two descriptions here as in many songs in the bible...

I.E. There are seven things the Lord hates
There are eight things that are an abomination to God.

timmyb
Sep 3rd 2009, 09:20 PM
As the OP of this thread (not to mention a facilitator) I don't want this to wind up a thread on hermenutics... I just want to talk about the reality that God is enthroned on the praises of his people...

So please let's keep it that way

The Mighty Sword
Sep 3rd 2009, 09:20 PM
This thread reminds me of a Christian song that deals with the very same issue,

Sing out
The Lord is near
Build Him a temple here
A palace of praise
A throne of thanksgiving
Made for the king of kings
Sing out
A joyful song
He’s love goes on and on
When praises abound
He’s glory surrounds us
Building His temple here
Sing out the Lord is near

The Lord inhabits the song of His saints
And lives in their praises
The Lord inhabits the song of his saints
And lives in their praises

I have said many a prayer using these words.

theBelovedDisciple
Sep 3rd 2009, 09:46 PM
So...
Are you saying that the translation of the NIV is for some purpose other than a straight "thought for thought" translation of the Bible?

Enthroned may be a verb...but in this case it is in the Qual form...meaning it is an adgective in this case....the verb in this song is "are"...and it isn't an adverb.

There are two descriptions here as in many songs in the bible...

I.E. There are seven things the Lord hates
There are eight things that are an abomination to God.


I didn't say anything about the NIV translation..:confused:confused:confused one would have to back to the Hebrew and Greek to see the correct translation for what your talking about..

God is a Spirit and those who Worship Him in Spirit and in Truth will worship Him in Spirit and Truth..

God is Omnipresent... and whereever your at worshipping Him in Spirit and Truth.. He is There.. He inhabits those Praises.. He Sees and He Hears them... He sees your Heart as you Worship Him.. whether its in Contriteness and Brokennessor in Joy.. unspeakable.. Singing Hymns and Spiriitual Songs.. Giving Praise and Glory to Him....

JohnDB
Sep 3rd 2009, 09:53 PM
As the OP of this thread (not to mention a facilitator) I don't want this to wind up a thread on hermenutics... I just want to talk about the reality that God is enthroned on the praises of his people...

So please let's keep it that way

:o:o:o

:confused

:giveup:

timmyb
Sep 3rd 2009, 10:01 PM
:o:o:o

:confused

:giveup:

i sorry bub... it's too late in the day and my mind is fried... please have mercy on me :D:cool:

JohnDB
Sep 3rd 2009, 10:06 PM
i sorry bub... it's too late in the day and my mind is fried... please have mercy on me :D:cool:

I been there and done that too.

So...always there is grace.

I was just shocked to see a discussion about scripture in the scripture forum where we all have a chance to tell what a particular scripture means to us and why was going to be cut short...

Especially when I brought in transliterated Hebrew and explained the grammar and similar examples in the Bible wasn't gonna be tolerated.

But all is forgiven. :spin::cool:

Desperaux
Sep 3rd 2009, 10:14 PM
Amen! He inhabits our praise! He draws near and is present among those who worship and adore Him!

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