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MeekandHumble
Jul 27th 2010, 05:22 AM
Are you a protestant? If so, then who or what are you protesting? Do you know the history of the protestant movement? Can you share a bit of that history? Please, do not copy and paste but please share this information from your own knowledge.

jayne
Jul 27th 2010, 05:35 AM
Yes, I am a Protestant.

I am not protesting anything nor do I think of myself as a "protester" because that isn't what the word means. The word protestant means something similiar to "someone who stands" or "a witness bearer" or something like that.

MeekandHumble
Jul 27th 2010, 05:45 AM
How can you say what a word doesn't mean and give no clear definition for it? Do you know where the word protestant came from?

jayne
Jul 27th 2010, 05:58 AM
How can you say what a word doesn't mean and give no clear definition for it? Do you know where the word protestant came from?

Well, let's try the dictionary.

Click here for definition. (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/protestant)

Note the Latin origin of the word. And note in the pronunciation guide that in linking this word to protesting, it is pronounced differently.

MeekandHumble
Jul 27th 2010, 06:02 AM
Can you answer the questions and stick to the main topic, please?

GitRDunn
Jul 27th 2010, 06:25 AM
Are you a protestant? If so, then who or what are you protesting? Do you know the history of the protestant movement? Can you share a bit of that history? Please, do not copy and paste but please share this information from your own knowledge.
Yes I consider myself a Protestant, as would most if not all on this forum. Whether you link the word back to protesting or to other roots, it has grown beyond any root history. This word, when used in the manner it is today, simply refers to any Christians that are not Catholic and as thus includes me.

-SEEKING-
Jul 27th 2010, 10:28 AM
I'd say yes. Based on the same reason GitRDunn stated. I am a non Roman Catholic Christian. But I don't protest anything personally.

andrew_no_one
Jul 27th 2010, 11:42 AM
Yes I consider myself a Protestant, as would most if not all on this forum. Whether you link the word back to protesting or to other roots, it has grown beyond any root history. This word, when used in the manner it is today, simply refers to any Christians that are not Catholic and as thus includes me.

I am within the same lines of thought and faith as our brothers GitRDunn and Seeking on this matter.

Firefighter
Jul 27th 2010, 11:57 AM
I am a Christian. That being said, yes, I am a protestant. I will proudly and loudly protest any religion that elevates traditions of men to the level of scripture, and teaches a works based salvation. For my full list of grievances, please click here. (http://www.iclnet.org/pub/resources/text/wittenberg/luther/web/ninetyfive.html)

VerticalReality
Jul 27th 2010, 12:05 PM
I don't discern that this thread will end well if the same spirit with which it was started remains.

Br. Barnabas
Jul 27th 2010, 12:05 PM
Are you a protestant? If so, then who or what are you protesting? Do you know the history of the protestant movement? Can you share a bit of that history? Please, do not copy and paste but please share this information from your own knowledge.

Yes, I am an Anglican Protestant. I am protesting the authority of the Pope. Not that I really have the problem with the role of the Pope in theory, because in the early church the Bishop of Rome (now called the Pope), was the first among equals among other bishops of large cities like Antioch, Alexandria, Jersualem, and Constantinople. However, in the Mideval period the Bishops of Rome took it upon themselves to increase their own authority and power. So I am protesting this abuse of power. I am also protesting the doctrine of transubstanation. I believe in the real presence as this fits more with the teachings of the early church and the Bible. If this doctrine were to be scaled back to it's pre-medieval position and if the Pope were to limit himself in his power and move back to the ancient model then I would stop protesting and join the Roman Catholic Church.

As for the history you can find that on your own. But the Protestant Christian position has moved far beyond it's roots of trying to Reform the Roman Catholic Church. It moved beyond that by the end of Luther's own life.

-SEEKING-
Jul 27th 2010, 12:27 PM
I don't discern that this thread will end well if the same spirit with which it was started remains.

Well we can only do what we feel is best. We can't control what others do, but we can certaily pray that God in his infinite wisdom and love would give us all some of that wisdom and love so we can use that as we communicate with each other.

markedward
Jul 27th 2010, 02:53 PM
Are you a protestant? If so, then who or what are you protesting?By definition, yes, I follow the legacy of the original Protestants: I protest, generally, the corrupted and un-Biblical teachings of various churches, and the over-emphasis of tradition.

What does it matter?

RabbiKnife
Jul 27th 2010, 02:56 PM
I am a protestant and a proud member of the holy catholic church.

Amos_with_goats
Jul 27th 2010, 03:10 PM
Are you a protestant?

Yes, I am undoubtedly a protestant.


If so, then who or what are you protesting? Do you know the history of the protestant movement? I am protesting what I experienced after I went through RCIA and became a RCC. I thought I was taking a step to become closer to Christ, and what I got was a bureaucratic structure that met my honest questions with the attitude that I was to sit down and stop questioning.

My Lord invites His people to 'Come, let us reason together'... I was told to stop my independent study and the questions it produced. This was not limited to one priest, but several over the couple years until I decided to search elsewhere. This is consistent with the history of the protestant movement... of course there is the issue of a king and his desire to divorce to re-mary but the movement was certainly much more broad that that.


Can you share a bit of that history? Please, do not copy and paste but please share this information from your own knowledge.


Rather then the history of other men, my own... for each man has his own history and that is much more significant to their them.

Each of us will give account for the decisions we make. For me, my questions were met with an attitude of dismissal. The idea expressed was that my attempts to look into scripture were only going to be disruptive to my faith. This simply did not hold water for me.

Of course the 'vicar' of the church is the pope. he is to do the thinking for the Catholic. Here is the problem... Each man will give account for what they believe, and how they act on that belief. I can certainly understand the desire to abdicate that responsibility but see no scriptural counsel to do so.

-SEEKING-
Jul 27th 2010, 03:12 PM
I am a protestant and a proud member of the holy catholic church.

Very well said Rabbi.

The Mighty Sword
Jul 27th 2010, 03:16 PM
I for one protest protesting but I am not a Protestant per`se.

genealogist
Jul 27th 2010, 03:35 PM
Are you a protestant? If so, then who or what are you protesting? Do you know the history of the protestant movement? Can you share a bit of that history? Please, do not copy and paste but please share this information from your own knowledge.

Yes, I am a Protestant--- I am with Markedward on this--- traditions of men, unbiblical teachings and so forth. However, I think this ol' man is usually a nice one. I try not to come across cheeky about it but some have better eloquence expressing it than others.

This is why it's good that there's a controversial section so that I can post more often there and converse with those who want to bring up such thoughts about traditions that some younger, inexperienced Christians may not have the fortitude to accept yet. So it's not in the face so-to-speak, posting other areas of this forum. (Plus I don't like coffee :lol:)

TexUs
Jul 27th 2010, 04:35 PM
I'd agree with other's here, the modern meaning of the word.

OP, are you just trying to split words over the definition or origin of protestant?

If so, here's a good example from CS Lewis... I'm paraphrasing.

The word gentlemen was originally used for a guy that owned land and had a coat of arms. When that word was used, there was already a word for "nice". However, being these gentlemen were usually nice, the word eventually became perverted to what it is today, synonymous with "nice".
In your example, do I become distressed when someone uses the word "gentlemen" in the "modern" meaning? No. Language adapts. The meaning today is what counts.

Same holds true for the word "Democrat" today... During the early years of our country the meaning of this term is basically what we would call a "Republican" today. Language changes.

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