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misticmike712
Nov 23rd 2010, 01:37 PM
I have a legitamate question that may sound a bit odd in a christian chat room, but I assure you I've been a christian for about a year now. In Genesis it says that God looked at His creation and saw that it was good. The only thing He saw that wasn't good was that man was alone. I believe that God created all the beautiful vast varieties of plants for a purpose and He saw it was good, but that also means that plants like the marijuana plant and other phsychoactive plants would have been deemed good. Who can shed some insight about Gods purpose in creating these taboo plants? It really has me wondering.

-SEEKING-
Nov 23rd 2010, 02:00 PM
I would say that marijuana is indeed a good and beautiful plant. So is poison ivy.

David Taylor
Nov 23rd 2010, 03:07 PM
Most anything can be used for harmful or wicked means.

Apples can be used as deadly projectiles from air-cannons.
Little White Bunnies can be trained to be mostrous attack beasts (ala Monty Pyton)
Drawing blood from a baby deer and injecting it into a baby human can cause a terminal infection.

Most anything in creation can be used in a deadly or dangerous manner by someone with ill-intent and a wicked heart.

Doesn't make God irresponsible for what was originally created at all.

People that use and process natural substances like marijuana, poppies, into abusive substances are the irresponsible parties here.

RabbiKnife
Nov 23rd 2010, 03:10 PM
Marijuana hemp fiber has a gazillion uses that are not drug related.

Humans do stupid stuff with good stuff that God made.

jayne
Nov 23rd 2010, 03:12 PM
Revelation 4:11 tells the purpose God had in creating everything - including marijuana plants, scorpions, and pit bulls.


"Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created."

It's not that plant, itself, is taboo. It's that using it and other God-made resources as graven-images so to speak that's taboo. What I mean is using a resource - beit fermented fruits/vegetables/grain, red meat, butter, fats, tobacco plants, cane sugar, and other ingestable resources - as what you seek to make you feel "better" (when in actuality is isn't making you better) and what you put your daily faith in.

Everyday, people abuse all kinds of resources - alchol, food, sexual activity, controlled substances made from natual ingredients, and more - and do so because they look to the creation of God for life and well-being and problem solving and do not lean on the Creator.

Certainly these things all by themselves are not bad things. I like a good steak as much as the next person. I know that there is alcohol in my prescription cough syrup. It's the abuse of them and the dependency on them to the point that the mind and body suffers that is, as you say, taboo.

Here's a quote by someone who said it so much better than myself. His name is Tom. It's in answer to the question - "Why did God create weed if He didn't want us to smoke it?"


Isn't this like asking, "Why did God create iron ore if he didn't want me to make a gun and blow someone's head off?" There is a right use and a wrong use for iron ore, and there is a right use and a wrong use for marijuana. A right use for iron ore might be a surgical scalpel with which to save lives, and a right use for marijuana might be to reduce nausea in cancer patients or perhaps as an erosion control plant. A wrongful use of this is as a means of escape from the reality of life which God intends us to lean upon Him to deal with. In that sense, people who do this are substituting dope for God and it is idolaltrous!

The argument that says the bible doesn't say don't smoke weed is spurious; the bible also doesn't say don't stare at a laser pointer. It DOES, however, say that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit, and that you are not to defile the temple (see Romans 12.)

Lastly, the proper test for a Christian is not, "Can I get away with this," but, "Does this bring honor to my Lord?"

nzyr
Nov 24th 2010, 04:37 AM
I have a legitimate question that may sound a bit odd in a christian chat room, but I assure you I've been a christian for about a year now. In Genesis it says that God looked at His creation and saw that it was good. The only thing He saw that wasn't good was that man was alone. I believe that God created all the beautiful vast varieties of plants for a purpose and He saw it was good, but that also means that plants like the marijuana plant and other psychoactive plants would have been deemed good. Who can shed some insight about God's purpose in creating these taboo plants? It really has me wondering.

Tobacco may have been created so that when there's a forest fire or some other destruction of land that plant could move in and cover the earth for protection against land erosion. It's so toxic hardly any animal or insect will eat it. Marijuana may be similar in that regard. Besides it's rope and fiber potential it may have medicinal value. God makes good things. But sometimes people can abuse the good things God has made.

ignis
Nov 24th 2010, 04:45 AM
Marijuana hemp fiber has a gazillion uses that are not drug related.

Humans do stupid stuff with good stuff that God made.

True.

Hemp is used to make ropes, paper, and the Dutch even used it to build ships back in the day. It is one of the strongest fibers around.

God gave it to man to build with, not to smoke it. ;)

excubitor
Nov 26th 2010, 11:03 PM
Marijuana is one of the most effective treatments for pain that is available.
http://www.nationalpainfoundation.org/articles/112/marijuana-and-pain-management

So too is Opium. The old chinese were notorious for the opium pipes which they used to dull the pain of old age.

An industrial variety of hemp can be grown with a licence for use in production of products such as cloth, paper, biofuel. This has low levels of tetrahydrocannabinol which is what the drug users of cannabis are after.

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