awestruckchild
May 24th 2011, 06:34 PM
Palestinians have just said that Netanyahu's speech before congress is a declaration of war. Waiting for commercials to end to hear why they think this.
awestruckchild
May 24th 2011, 06:41 PM
Called for Abbas to rip up the power-sharing agreement with Hamas....echoes of "tear down this wall"....if you ask me.
Still no explanation for why they think he's declared war though...
Reynolds357
May 24th 2011, 07:20 PM
Palestinians have just said that Netanyahu's speech before congress is a declaration of war. Waiting for commercials to end to hear why they think this.
Good, since Israel is at war with them I hope Israel wipes that bunch of terrorists out.
Vhayes
May 24th 2011, 07:22 PM
Where did you hear this?
I have checked both Al Jazeera and Ha'aretz and see nothing like that. They aren't happy (no surprise) but nothing remotely like a declaration of war.
awestruckchild
May 24th 2011, 07:31 PM
Where did you hear this?
I have checked both Al Jazeera and Ha'aretz and see nothing like that. They aren't happy (no surprise) but nothing remotely like a declaration of war.
It was on foxnews........(don't growl...:D)
Here it is in a story too, with the words in quote marks.
http://http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110524/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_palestinians_netanyahu
Vhayes
May 24th 2011, 07:33 PM
Sorry - the link doesn't work...
I'll go to yahoo news and see if I can find it.
Thanks!
awestruckchild
May 24th 2011, 07:40 PM
Sorry - the link doesn't work...
I'll go to yahoo news and see if I can find it.
Thanks!
You betcha' little sister o' mine!!!
Vhayes
May 24th 2011, 07:42 PM
Ok - here's the part you were referring to.
In the West Bank, Nabil Shaath, a senior Palestinian official, called Netanyahu's speech "a declaration of war against the Palestinians."
"This is an escalation and unfortunately, it received a standing ovation," he said, noting that Netanyahu had rejected all key Palestinian demands on key issues like future borders, the competing claims of Jersualem and the fate of refugees.
Israel, which enjoys strong bipartisan backing in Congress, has been rattled by President Barack Obama's support for drawing the future borders of a Palestinian state and a Jewish state on the basis of Israel's pre-1967 war frontiers.
Netanyahu has repeatedly challenged the president's position, ignoring Obama's assertion that the territorial markers could be adjusted through mutually agreed land swaps. The Palestinians accept that principle, which would allow Israel to retain major West Bank settlement blocs and help to assure its security.
In his speech before Congress, Netanyahu backed off from his dispute with Obama, acknowledging that the president has not called for a return to the exact borders Israel held before capturing east Jerusalem, the West Bank and Gaza Strip in the 1967 Mideast war.
I think the last paragraph should speak loudly. But it won't - at least not here.
awestruckchild
May 24th 2011, 07:56 PM
Ok - here's the part you were referring to.
I think the last paragraph should speak loudly. But it won't - at least not here.
Yes. I saw that. I think it is good that Obama clarified what he meant in his speech before that Jewish group that he spoke to.
It was good. It brought Netanyahu to be able to say everyone misunderstood Obama's intent and wording. It's what a lot of people thought they were hearing.
Now that he has clarified that he does not think the EXACT borders will work, maybe cooler heads can prevail.
mattlad22
May 24th 2011, 08:27 PM
Ok - here's the part you were referring to.
I think the last paragraph should speak loudly. But it won't - at least not here.
S regardless of whatever Obama's position on this, which appears He doesnt even know, because He is backpeddling now and im not biased for any political leader, he is clearly backpeddling from a previous statement, either way it doesnt have much of anything to do with the Palestinains specific remark of "a declaration of war against the Palestinians" How does whatever Obama say relate to what they just said.
Obama is now not in support of what he said, he clarifying what he meant and that it ment they should both work it out, Netanyahu's been blunt and perfectly clear, "It not happening for those borders" and has held this position from the begining, now you know me Vhayes i dont side with anyone, it is clear however that the Palestinians are trying to take Obama's "blunder" of definition previously to state a reason to declare war on the Isreali's.
They have no cause and are looking for excuses, just to put it blunt.
Grace to you, peace from God and the Lord Jesus Christ.
rom826
May 24th 2011, 10:20 PM
"Backpeddling" is not necessarily a bad thing. Also, it was just one Palestinian official who made the declaration of war comment. That doesn't necessarily mean that is the Palestinian position as a whole. I guess we will have to wait and see.
mattlad22
May 24th 2011, 10:25 PM
"Backpeddling" is not necessarily a bad thing. Also, it was just one Palestinian official who made the declaration of war comment. That doesn't necessarily mean that is the Palestinian position as a whole. I guess we will have to wait and see.
Agreed, but backpeddling from an original statement because you know the first mentioned may very well affect your voters is, its not a bad thing for his presidency run, but its not a good thing for his heart. He's not backpeddling for anyone else sake other than his presidency run in the next election. Which is evident in the action of having the reaction given through a short time, then the backpeddling began.
Yes agreed, i hope it didnt come across that way either when i spoke of the Palestinians declaring war, however, they do tend to actually follow thier leaders outright and unquestionably as a whole/majority. This was just fuel for that. Indeed we shall see.
Grace to you, peace from God and the Lord Jesus Christ.