Hello everyone.

as I type I wish that our merciful lord gives you enough power of holy spirit in helping me to come out of the problem i am facing - amen.

As the topic title says,spiritual barriers.
I am currently working on a god's promise for which I have been waiting since 2003 to get that work for real instead of just staying as a scripture or a blessing.

Few days back I got so desperate and impatient and cried out loud at god for not at all giving me what I am asking but then when I was praying I saw a vision,It's a golden instrument,looking very fine but only one string was seen cut,remaining all strings are good and perfect.I saw music being played on that instrument,the music which the person is playing is coming to an end because of this string being cut.

This is the vision I got and I was really so disturbed at that time and was unable to understand what GOD was saying.

So I thought that satan was cheating me by showing fake visions and to get some relief I went to the church to talk with my pastor hoping that god would talk to me through him.

The issue on which i am praying is something which I can't tell it out,it is something between me and god.So I just went to the church and I was talking to the pastor and when he was talking suddenly few of his words got my attention.

he was saying "to get things happen from god,it only depends on the relationship between u and him"

these words from my pastor has got my attention and made me realize that there has been a blockade between me and god regarding an issue and i have sorted it out.

Now since even that thing is also cleared and everything is fine now,my question is how should I ask god when is he gonna do it.like a particular day or something.

why I am asking this because,elijah and elisha were powerful enough in telling out the exact dates on which things are gonna happen,now I want the same thing from god.
since I am an immature person in spiritual life,I want to know when i mean the exact date on which god is gonna give me the one i am asking for.

What I am craving is not the work of the god,but the word of the god.Like I want to get powerful enough in his spirit by knowing the exact date,like god telling me the exact things like how he told micah but not to the other 400 false prophets.
I want that crystal clear clarity from god.
How should I ask him ? any particular process ?

I can't fast as the atmosphere at my place is not encouraging to prayer itself.

I hope god gives me some guidance through this topic - bless me dear lord - amen

Two things...If God did INDEED make a promise to you, then when it is time, it will be fulfilled. I know this, because He spoke to me while in prayer one day and made me a promise. Just when I had finally let go of my desire for that thing, the promise came into fulfillment.

The other thing is, "why" do you want what you want?

And remember, you can't "get God" to do anything you want Him to do, when it's time it's time, and if it's not ever fulfilled, then it wasn't Him who made you a promise, we can sometimes read into things that are not really there.

Two things...If God did INDEED make a promise to you, then when it is time, it will be fulfilled. I know this, because He spoke to me while in prayer one day and made me a promise. Just when I had finally let go of my desire for that thing, the promise came into fulfillment.

The other thing is, "why" do you want what you want?

And remember, you can't "get God" to do anything you want Him to do, when it's time it's time, and if it's not ever fulfilled, then it wasn't Him who made you a promise, we can sometimes read into things that are not really there.

I really hope you will read over Saved 7's reply again. (Above)

I remember there was something I SINCERELY prayed about. I mean crying out to God, begging him. But finally, there was within me a KNOWING, an assurance, that I did not need to BEG any longer. It was not a matter of If God would answer my plea. But, I had to only wait for WHEN it would happen!

Friend, it took 7 long years for the WHEN!

One thing is certain. We don't give God orders. We know what we want and being human, we want it right then! But, we must learn that God's timing is PERFECT. We must learn to patiently wait.

Also, sometimes there is something WE need to do before we see fulfillment of a promise.

And of course, like Saved7 already said, if the thing nevers happens, it really was not God who made the promise to us after all!

Thank you my friends for the replies.But all the things you were saying remind me of my immaturity about christ when i wasnt baptized.But since I got baptized I came to know all the mistakes you all mentioned and rectified them with the power of holy spirit.

I am all good with god regarding the things you mentioned,actually as I type,few mins before I have turned on my computer,holy spirit has told me what's going on,I am happy that god has helped me in this issue.

A7, I don't know where you live, and things may be very different than here in America where I live. But for example, take the subject of choosing who you will marry. Let me explain how this happens in America. A man meets a girl, likes her for different reasons...maybe he thinks she is attractive or maybe he works with her and thinks she is a good, nice, decent girl and wants to get to know her better or maybe someone introduces him to the girl.

Then, because he is interested for whatever reason, he asks her to go out on a date. He may take her to a restaurant for a nice meal and maybe a movie. Then he may call her on the phone and talk to her, getting to know her better. He may ask her out again a few days later or a week later. But before long, they may be going to do things together quite often. They get to know each other and love spending time together. He ends up asking her to be his wife and they set a wedding date and get married.

You see, he does not just see her or meet her and fall in love and sit back waiting for God to GIVE her to him. If he is a good Christian man, he most likely will be praying and asking God, "Is this the one you want me to marry, Lord?"

Now, while they are dating...if she says she is only seeing him, but he finds out she is going out with other men also, then that should SHOW him that the Lord is revealing that she can't be trusted and that she is not the one for him.

That's just one example that I could think of, but it shows you how sometimes we must also do SOMETHING, and not just wait for God to hand us something we have been praying for.

I really hope you will read over Saved 7's reply again. (Above)


Also, sometimes there is something WE need to do before we see fulfillment of a promise.



Bless you my dear friend.After posting my previous reply on this topic,still I wasn't clear whether god has spoke to me clearly or not.So I came back and checked this topic again and I saw your post,I thought god was talking to me through this post.So with a very unclear heart and praying with full broken heart,I went to the church to speak with the pastor hoping that god would talk to me through him,so as we discussed everything and I felt some burden was off and I came back,while I was coming three things came on to my mind.

One was your reply (the underlined one ) and the other was the pastor's words "god does miracles for his glory" and the third one was a reply from one of the members in this topic
http://bibleforums.org/showthread.php/229020-A-simple-Scripture-which-has-made-me-so-strong-in-christ?p=2721477#post2721477


Thanks very much for this. I think it is really amazing that the Lord has brought you to the light even though your life is pretty much surrounded by darkness. He does those things... just like you said, the impossible. Even in situations where we see no way out, we have to remember that He is God. He created everything for His glory and purpose.



I feel so happy now and what I forgot all these years was for asking god's glory ! My prayers meant something when I had mentioned for his glory in them and later he replied me with two visions ! I don't want to tell them out,but I am glad and happy !

A7, I don't know where you live, and things may be very different than here in America where I live. But for example, take the subject of choosing who you will marry. Let me explain how this happens in America. A man meets a girl, likes her for different reasons...maybe he thinks she is attractive or maybe he works with her and thinks she is a good, nice, decent girl and wants to get to know her better or maybe someone introduces him to the girl.

Then, because he is interested for whatever reason, he asks her to go out on a date. He may take her to a restaurant for a nice meal and maybe a movie. Then he may call her on the phone and talk to her, getting to know her better. He may ask her out again a few days later or a week later. But before long, they may be going to do things together quite often. They get to know each other and love spending time together. He ends up asking her to be his wife and they set a wedding date and get married.

You see, he does not just see her or meet her and fall in love and sit back waiting for God to GIVE her to him. If he is a good Christian man, he most likely will be praying and asking God, "Is this the one you want me to marry, Lord?"

Now, while they are dating...if she says she is only seeing him, but he finds out she is going out with other men also, then that should SHOW him that the Lord is revealing that she can't be trusted and that she is not the one for him.

That's just one example that I could think of, but it shows you how sometimes we must also do SOMETHING, and not just wait for God to hand us something we have been praying for.

This is not at all about the girl,but it is related though.But since you bought this up,I am gonna tell the situation here.

Like you said,if I can meet the girl and ask her out,I could get married to her easily,It is very simple.God has shown me her feelings and how alone she is feeling even though she has everything.

But things are very different here in India,she is from an orthodox hindu family and also my family is friends to them and they know everything about my pathetic father who did a lot of crap

Actually god told me to marry her in month of February in 2011,so I tried contacting her through friends,but don't know what happened at that time,but it did not workout.But later in the month of june,What I came to know was,One of my family friends,whose also a christian,she got a vision that I got married and she thought that this is not the correct age for marriage as I was 22 at that time and she prayed to god that I should not get married and as a result all my plans were wasted in the month of february.After knowing that I felt bad and asked her why she did like that ? and she said i wasnt ready for marriage.I thought it's a waste of time to argue with her and let it go off.


There is nothing stopping me in getting married to her,if I just go and ask her,if she wanna marry me,she is ready to marry me,but I have other issues with my father,and her family,as she is very rich and she has some internal enemies in her family.

I am really not worried about her,as god told me that she is according to god's will.I just need to sort out some things before I marry her.

I feel so happy now and what I forgot all these years was for asking god's glory !
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THIS is precisely why I asked you WHY you want what you are asking for. If it's not for HIM to be glorified through it, and if that's not the ONLY reason that you ask it, then don't be too surprised when you don't get it, I understand that marriage is for our sakes, but in that we are to glorify God. Remember, it's always about Him being glorified both IN you and THROUGH you. For when He is glorified, IN us, we are made stronger in our faith, and when He is glorified THROUGH us, others are made stronger in their faith toward Him, and non-believers come to faith in Jesus Christ, their souls being saved.

This is not at all about the girl,but it is related though.But since you bought this up,I am gonna tell the situation here.

Like you said,if I can meet the girl and ask her out,I could get married to her easily,It is very simple.God has shown me her feelings and how alone she is feeling even though she has everything.

But things are very different here in India,she is from an orthodox hindu family and also my family is friends to them and they know everything about my pathetic father who did a lot of crap

Actually god told me to marry her in month of February in 2011,so I tried contacting her through friends,but don't know what happened at that time,but it did not workout.But later in the month of june,What I came to know was,One of my family friends,whose also a christian,she got a vision that I got married and she thought that this is not the correct age for marriage as I was 22 at that time and she prayed to god that I should not get married and as a result all my plans were wasted in the month of february.After knowing that I felt bad and asked her why she did like that ? and she said i wasnt ready for marriage.I thought it's a waste of time to argue with her and let it go off.


There is nothing stopping me in getting married to her,if I just go and ask her,if she wanna marry me,she is ready to marry me,but I have other issues with my father,and her family,as she is very rich and she has some internal enemies in her family.

I am really not worried about her,as god told me that she is according to god's will.I just need to sort out some things before I marry her.

ok, first of all, God isn't stupid...He doesn't need direction from other people to tell HIM when is a good time or a bad time for you to get married. So if God wanted you to get married back in February, then you would have been, nothing and no one can stop God. Hence the title GOD. Also, did God tell you to get married DURING the month of February, or did He simply speak to you about it during that month, that was not really clear to me? Remember when God spoke to Abraham about having a child of his own? He wasn't speaking of Ishmael, He was speaking of Isaac, it took about 14 years for that promise of Isaac being born to be fulfilled from the time HE spoke it to Abraham. So maybe your friend saw a vision and prayed against you marrying too soon, because it was GOD who showed it her it was too soon, and gave her opportunity to stand in prayer for your sake and for her sake. Just because we pray about something doesn't mean that God needed our help, but sometimes we need each other's help to keep from making mistakes, which is why we do spiritual warfare, and it is God who gives us the direction to do that warfare so that we can have the PRIVELEGE of standing on God's side, helping others. So there is no need to be upset about this, if it was time, believe me, it would have happened.