manuel809
Apr 25th 2012, 04:05 PM
i was addicted to pornography and completely recently stopped watching it after i completely realized that the oppression was getting out of hand. for about 2 yrs now ive been having these disgusting perverted thoughts that go beyond anything i had ever experienced. these thoughts destroy me, and i constantly have sleepless/extremely uncomfortable nights. i have felt like God has forsaken me or hasnt been hearing my prayers. i dont go to church since these thoughts cause so much panic and anxiety, so i try to avoid social situations at all cost.i believe for sure my porn addiction invites the demons in, but its almost been a months since i last watched porn, but the thoughts are sometimes worst than ever. my oppression is driving me into madness and i feel all alone. no one knows what im going through, but they suspect since i have the common symptoms of depression. i know i need to trust God, but has anyone else experienced such oppression? its also severely affecting me physically. for ex: when ib take a shower i panic since i dont want to have these thoughts in the shower, or i wont put my hand no where near my legs because im afraid the thoughts would come in. very hard/weird/disturbing experience in my life. the WORST thing that i have ever experienced. i know a lot of people wont really want to admit to such an oppression, but please share if you can relate. i realized sometimes i would feel energy-less when outside. help! Godbless
andrew_no_one
Apr 25th 2012, 06:27 PM
Hey bro. The Bible says that if we resist the devil, he will flee.
The addiction though is like any other. Your flesh is used to it, and when it goes away your flesh rebels.
It’s like taking a pacifier away from a baby. When sin is no longer pacified, your carnal nature demands it’s stimulus back.
The Bible also says that God is faithful and will not allow us to be tempted more than we can bear, and that He will also provide us with a way out.
Continue to resist and trust what the Bible says. Pray and ask for help. Things will get easier if you continue to resist, just be prepared to pray through the withdraw symptoms.
Toner44
Apr 25th 2012, 11:11 PM
i was addicted to pornography and completely recently stopped watching it after i completely realized that the oppression was getting out of hand. for about 2 yrs now ive been having these disgusting perverted thoughts that go beyond anything i had ever experienced. these thoughts destroy me, and i constantly have sleepless/extremely uncomfortable nights. i have felt like God has forsaken me or hasnt been hearing my prayers. i dont go to church since these thoughts cause so much panic and anxiety, so i try to avoid social situations at all cost.i believe for sure my porn addiction invites the demons in, but its almost been a months since i last watched porn, but the thoughts are sometimes worst than ever. my oppression is driving me into madness and i feel all alone. no one knows what im going through, but they suspect since i have the common symptoms of depression. i know i need to trust God, but has anyone else experienced such oppression? its also severely affecting me physically. for ex: when ib take a shower i panic since i dont want to have these thoughts in the shower, or i wont put my hand no where near my legs because im afraid the thoughts would come in. very hard/weird/disturbing experience in my life. the WORST thing that i have ever experienced. i know a lot of people wont really want to admit to such an oppression, but please share if you can relate. i realized sometimes i would feel energy-less when outside. help! Godbless
I've gone through a similar oppression. God hasn't forsaken you. He's very much with you and He's working by His own perfect agenda. Remember, Satan has to work by God's agenda. Pray daily and be persistent...he hears you each and every time. Again, He's very much with you and in charge.
Consider running around the block or exercising daily. This will burn off that anxiety, restlessness and panic. Do what you can and maybe just start out slow and only run or exercise as much as you can handle. Seriously this will help you out tremendously if you can find the courage to do it.
Drink plenty of water and try to avoid caffeine drinks.
Don't stay awake at night and sleep during the day...it'll wear you out.
Think positive thoughts and consider taking up some hobbies during your down time. In fact always have a side task to do when you suddenly have nothing to do. (Cleaning, organizing a room, etc.)
God is very much with you even when it doesn't feel like it. Those were just some things you can aside from prayer.
As andrew said stay away from sin. Thats just feeding the fire.
God bless.
Toner44
Apr 25th 2012, 11:16 PM
Listen to Christian music or radio. It'll give your mind a place to go. Speak to God when you're tempted into fear or lust.
Toner44
Apr 25th 2012, 11:28 PM
I've tried showers and I even used to turn it to cold and then back to hot and then back to cold just to get rid of that tingling in my nerves.
God will help you but He won't force you to do anything. Just keep saying to yourself when you run that every step you take you're getting a little healthier and happier. It might feel like crap when you do it but if you do it your body should get a release of endorphins that will give you a breath of fresh air for the rest of the day. Pace yourself and don't push yourself too far that you'll overheat. Drink plenty of water. Then pray afterwards and thank God for the many blessings He gives you. Its a good way to start your day.
You're not hanging from the church rafters... if you're a Christian this life is the worst it will ever get.
As for the thoughts you get: just know thats spam mail from the devil. I don't know if they expect you to believe/accept them as much as just offend you and give you guilt for having them. Try to ignore them but don't blame yourself for them popping in your brain. If they offend you I'd say odds are they're not originating from you.
Toner44
Apr 27th 2012, 09:16 PM
I heard this big daddy weave song and I thought of you:
"Bring your love to life inside of me. Why don't you break my heart til it moves my hands and feet."
Michelle71
Apr 28th 2012, 12:42 PM
We become what we surround ourselves with. Is it enough only to stop the behavior, or is there a need for a replacement habit. A different choice that can counter the thoughts.
This cannot be broken by anything other than prayer, but if there isn't an alternative habit that can be developed, then renewing the mind will not happen. The very best alternative
is memorizing scripture verses that deal with purity. Trusting the Lord that there is no condemnation for those who are in Christ. If you have repented for these things, then it is covered
by His blood, and He has to be the one to remove it. We can pray, and take every thought captive to the obedience of Christ, renew our minds with the Word of God, but ultimately it is
only by His hand that freedom comes. Faith in Jesus' sacrifice and covering of that sin until the victory is the only thing that allows us to enter into the throne of Grace for those prayers
to the Father.
2Co 12:9 And he said unto me, My grace is sufficient for thee: for my strength is made perfect in weakness. Most gladly therefore will I rather glory in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me.
Paul prayed 3 times for his thorn in the flesh to be removed. It is not clear what that thorn was, but it is comforting to know that someone used so mightily of God also had his own struggles.
Toner44
Apr 30th 2012, 06:40 AM
Ya gotta not let that panic and restlessness get you down. Its there to bug you so you look for means of gratification. Look at it this way, pornography does nothing to improve you. That's why I suggested running because every time you run you get a little better and healthier. Be with God...we're all in the ICU in this world and Jesus is sitting by the bedside.
Toner44
Apr 30th 2012, 06:50 AM
Be grateful for every good day you have. Its God. . . a gift from God. Treasure his gifts but don't let it go to your head. We're sinners and we deserve bad days to humble us. Be able to see God in adversity and prosperity because they both show his love and concern.
Listen to Christian music as much as you can. It'll change your life, brother. http://www.klove.com/
Eyelog
May 1st 2012, 04:32 PM
Get on the path to proactive sanctification. Absent that, we are all twisting. :)
Dani H
May 1st 2012, 05:11 PM
Get on the path to proactive sanctification. Absent that, we are all twisting. :)
Yep, you can either stay on the defensive and ward things off (which becomes all consuming as we have seen people post over and over and over and over again) or you can go on the offensive, use the 24 hours a day God gives you to actively seek Him and actively serve Him. Permanent freedom FROM is only really possible if you have freedom TO. Because a vacuum must be filled.
Freedom TO what?
To have an amazing walk with God and loving relationships with people in our lives.
baxpack7
May 3rd 2012, 12:29 PM
I agree with my learned Christian sister. You need to fill that hole with the things of the Kingdom. In order to not have those thoughts, you must occupy your mind with other things. Find a great church fellowship,join some of their ministries, and immerse yourself in them. For instance,do a hotel feeding, join a church softball league,go out and have a burger with fellow Christians, etc. In order to do away with those thoughts, you gotta fill your life with things that have nothing to do with this addiction, and that's exactly what this is: an addiction! Remove yourself from the situation, and fill your off-time (time away from school or work) with things that are far away from things that will expose you to the dangers of the temptations of your addiction. When God saved me from my drug addiction, I just immersed myself into the church, and the many ministries that were offered.
Above all, stay prayed up, and seek others that have this addiction, just to observe how they deal with it. We can give you all sorts of written advice but until you see it in action, it's just not the same.
May God bless you my friend.
Traveler
May 3rd 2012, 01:02 PM
What has happened is that you have fallen under a stronghold. The only way to come against it is through repentance, pleading the Blood of Christ and then binding the demonic influence over you. The list below is the more common demonic chains involved in this which fall directly under Lucifer. Bind the whole lot and go from there. You will find the names in the scriptures and on the net.
Behemoth - thievery, sodomy, murder, and violent lust (rape), causes all sexual addictions
Belial - This unit is shared with Beelzebub. They break people down to the scum of the earth.
Bernael - fallen angel of darkness and evil
Eyelog
May 3rd 2012, 02:52 PM
What has happened is that you have fallen under a stronghold. The only way to come against it is through repentance, pleading the Blood of Christ and then binding the demonic influence over you. The list below is the more common demonic chains involved in this which fall directly under Lucifer. Bind the whole lot and go from there. You will find the names in the scriptures and on the net.
Behemoth - thievery, sodomy, murder, and violent lust (rape), causes all sexual addictions
Belial - This unit is shared with Beelzebub. They break people down to the scum of the earth.
Bernael - fallen angel of darkness and evil
Fascinating. I wonder, what all would you say is involved in the "repent" part of this? I think some particular instructions in that area would be helpful.
Toner44
Jun 6th 2012, 02:43 AM
At the least try not to stay idle. But if you can do some of the things listed and serve Christ you'll be making a better use of your time.
Vanderhoven7
Jun 6th 2012, 05:36 PM
i was addicted to pornography and completely recently stopped watching it after i completely realized that the oppression was getting out of hand. for about 2 yrs now ive been having these disgusting perverted thoughts that go beyond anything i had ever experienced. these thoughts destroy me, and i constantly have sleepless/extremely uncomfortable nights..... help! Godbless
First of all...there is help. You have given satan a foothold. Now, you must take it back through foothold warfare.
God has allowed you to be taken hostage for a reason. He will also deliver you for a reason.
These horrible lustful thoughts are not you; they are not yours. Spirits experience lust and release fears through human beings. That's why they want to possess and control. Misery loves company and they find release through individuals who open the door to their involvement.
Steps to Deliverance:
1. Get historical. Sit down and write out in the form of a confession, everything you did, to give the devil a foothold. Everything...leave nothing out. Ask God to help in this process
2. Make formal verbal confession to God through His Son Jesus: Read your list aloud, item by item, beginning with the words I admit and confess that I:..... Do this aloud for every item, don't miss one. Every confession frightens the occupying spirit...because he knows his time is short.
3. Renounce and Forsake every sin: Go through your list again preceding every item with: "In the name of Jesus Christ, and by His blood shed on the cross, I renounce and forsake.....
4. Cast satan out: Have a bucket with you, because you may vomit out more than one spirit. Command the spirit/s to depart from you in the name of Jesus Christ. Keep commanding until you are sure the last one leaves. And go they must, because they have lost all rights of occupancy and because it is not you they are dealing with, but the one whose name you are invoking.
5. Be Filled With The Spirit: Ask God to fill you with His Spirit, to cleanse you from all unrighteousness, to empower His Spirit within you to bring you and keep you in the center of His will. etc.
Expect some depression, sorrow, weeping to follow shortly afterwards; it is of God. Just thank Him...and keep thanking Him for your deliverance.
Vander
YourVictoryGirl
Sep 19th 2012, 03:57 PM
I can only speak personally about my personal and current demonic oppression experience - I realized a couple weeks ago that I was trying to live on both sides of the fence (and had been doing so for years...) Asking for God's help only when things were not going well, then continuing my life of ...well, to be honest - sin. Then I had an "ephefiny" (sp?) that I was asking God to do me all kinds of favors with me doing nothing in return. So I completely changed my life to live an honest life. However, I was dipping into the old world when I felt I was desperate (has to do with getting money.) Last week I realized that this meant I didn't completely trust God, and was hedging my bets.
This made me realize that God is there to help in all ways possible, but I was the one who needed to shape up, NOT GOD. I am still working with a priest (in fact, have an appt in one hour to see him.) but each day Jesus helps to clear my understanding of my personal relationship with Him. Just food for thought and I thank you for the opportunity to share this. Please keep trying and trust me, it will start to get better, one day at a time...
turtledove
Sep 30th 2012, 12:46 PM
Exercise especially walking and focusing your thoughts on good things are two pro-active things you can do. As you start each day begin by praising God, asking for a cleansing of body, soul, and spirit, and revoking the Spirit that wants to capture you during the day. Give it a name, e.g. Spirit of lust, pornography, or whatever you think it is called. Always pray in the Name of Jesus because there is (for the believer) power in the Name. Then once you tell this spirit to flee (in the Name of Jesus) ask for a filling of the peace of God and protection against further assaults. Also, throughout the day turn to the Psalms in the bible to give you strength from the Word. In time as you are free of this be sure to look for ways in which to help others get free of this bondage.
Psalm 25 is a good one for this. Here is Psalm 25:1-21 (NIV)
In you, Lord my God,
I put my trust.
2 I trust in you;
do not let me be put to shame,
nor let my enemies triumph over me.
3 No one who hopes in you
will ever be put to shame,
but shame will come on those
who are treacherous without cause.
4 Show me your ways, Lord,
teach me your paths.
5 Guide me in your truth and teach me,
for you are God my Savior,
and my hope is in you all day long.
6 Remember, Lord, your great mercy and love,
for they are from of old.
7 Do not remember the sins of my youth
and my rebellious ways;
according to your love remember me,
for you, Lord, are good.
8 Good and upright is the Lord;
therefore he instructs sinners in his ways.
9 He guides the humble in what is right
and teaches them his way.
10 All the ways of the Lord are loving and faithful
toward those who keep the demands of his covenant.
11 For the sake of your name, Lord,
forgive my iniquity, though it is great.
12 Who, then, are those who fear the Lord?
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13 They will spend their days in prosperity,
and their descendants will inherit the land.
14 The Lord confides in those who fear him;
he makes his covenant known to them.
15 My eyes are ever on the Lord,
for only he will release my feet from the snare.
16 Turn to me and be gracious to me,
for I am lonely and afflicted.
17 Relieve the troubles of my heart
and free me from my anguish.
18 Look on my affliction and my distress
and take away all my sins.
19 See how numerous are my enemies
and how fiercely they hate me!
20 Guard my life and rescue me;
do not let me be put to shame,
for I take refuge in you.
21 May integrity and uprightness protect me,
because my hope, Lord, is in you.
Berean11
Oct 6th 2012, 02:47 AM
I completely empathize with you. But I will say this....having been an alcoholic, drug addict, sex addict etc....some of the posters are correct. You need to fill the hole. One thing that has always worked for me (even when at first it didn't seem to) was service. Call it whatever name you like. But service....to others. So, joining a church and becoming involved in the ministries/helps that you can will go a long way toward occupying that space your addiction has. All the other things are necessary too. Praying, worshiping, studying your scripture. It is a process. I have been there. As for the binding and loosing, buckets for vomiting, that wasn't my experience....but I am free. Still have to do certain things to keep the enemy and my addictions out but it's not hard anymore. And not isolating. That alone will keep you stuck. You must go out of your house. Find others who have overcome. Fellowship with them. We are not lone rangers nor live in a vacuum. God bless, Berean11
Watcher
Oct 6th 2012, 03:53 AM
Brother your right, it is not easy to over come. Infact you cannot, Christ can, Christ has. Therefore you must do like previous posts said. Repent, pray, fast. When you fast your body becomes weak it is not an easy thing to do. When I say fast Im not saying stop smoking for a day or dont eat your whataburger. Im saying NO FOOD, only water. Why? Water is the symbol of repentance. You must also not tell anyone why you are doing it. You must not advertise it showing your hunger. Be joyfull and glad, for you are entering a spiritual battle. Keep your faith, seek and you shall find. You must fill your body with water and read the word of God. I would suggest doing it one day total commitment to prayer and fast. Then two, then three. Little steps are little victories. The most I ever did was three days. It will not be easy depending on how much the evil has his meat hooks in you. It will take time and determination. Patience, prayer and standing stead fast. Lies will come to your head saying oh its ok just a little bite of the apple wont hurt you. Your right it wont hurt you, it will kill you. I have been through this oppression. Because I listened to the lies. I had trouble reading the bible, praying. He cannot posses you however, he can gain control over you if you allow the darkness to grow within. You must repent and seek the light. His word, Him. Then stand guard because once they have a taste for you they will always, always come back. Checking your defenses, looking for a differernt angle to enter. When the thoughts come, and they will, rebuke them in the name of Christ. Start saying the Lords prayer in your head. If you do all of this it will ease off, you will regain your strength but STAY ON GUARD, FOREVER! The Body is not a dirty thing. In the garden man ran to and frow without clothing. Sex is a beutiful thing when shared with the person you LOVE. When done right. Or it becomes an IDOL, A self centered act of lust, temptation will come, Christ said it is not what comes into the body which defiles a man, but what comes out. Temptation will come what you do when it does makes the differance. We use sex, money, drugs, material. We make this things our god for we give them thought and worry more then Gods Love and will for us. I tell you this when I was in perfect alighnment with God and His Son. I was not of want of this earth, nothing on this earth compares to the nearness of God, no love on the earth, no money. I would trade it all to stay in that perfect spot. I have found not greater feeling of purity, emotion, calm, joy, or being complete then in God's heart. Chase him and you will find him, seek him and he will teach you. Know him and know the greatest love of your entire life.
nerdforjesus
Oct 14th 2012, 08:17 AM
I am struggling against the addiction of smoking cigarettes, I can completely relate to this thread and the replies, they are completely relevant to me as well.