Jennifer89
Mar 16th 2005, 01:28 AM
Sorry if I miss spelled that (or that), but am I the only one on earth that finds veggietials as unbiblical and completely miss leading? Am I the only one boycotting them? Am I the only one who thinks that a child should never ever wach these movies?
All I know are people who partially agree with me. Eather that, are they say that they agree so that I'll be quite!
Reasons for boycotting veggietails:
-They mislead children
-Bible charicters and veggies don't go together any more then Joseph should be shown as a pig
-Parts are made-up
-After waching veggietails, why can't I just make up my own version of the Bible?
-Do you think that God would really smile down at veggietails?
-Parents should spend time READING to their child and teaching their child, not plopping them down in front of the tube
-their ARE good alternatives
-I know children who would wach veggietails and learn what DIDN'T happen, but wouldn't listen to a Bible lesson and learn the TRUETH
-We shouldn't have to lie to children to make them listen to the "Bible"
(I say "Bible" because they don't follow the real Bible)
I could go on...
The only child I have ever set in front of veggietails, was a metally/physically disabled child who's parents only wanted him to wach veggietails, and we didn't have anything else to do.
ddlewis86
Mar 16th 2005, 01:31 AM
Lots of pashion here. :o
I understand you have listed "reasons" for your opinions but you haven't made any specific claims or given specific examples. :)
wendythepooh
Mar 16th 2005, 01:38 AM
I let my kids watch them. Could you specify what you believe to be wrong with them? Like what scenes in the films have you seen that don't line up scripturally? If I see something that doesn't line up in something, I explain to my children why that is in whatever they are watching. I would much rather my children watch Veggietales than regular cartoons. At least the basic morals are correct. Most children who watch this show are 4 and under so they don't understand alot of details as it is. They are taught in Sunday school class and by Bible stories that I read to them. :hug:
qbee
Mar 16th 2005, 01:39 AM
I have never watched vegitails but I know thay are popoular
with parents and YOUNG children.
What lessons do they teach to little ones that you would find un-bibical..
Certainly after a baby grows up he will know Josheph isnt a vegy or farm
animal... But are lessons that are taught Godly....
Lori
Mar 16th 2005, 01:44 AM
I personally have no problems with the Veggie Tales. We let our daughter watch them, but keep in mind, we are very involved parents as to how much and specifically what our 4 yo is allowed to view. I would much rather let her watch something that teaches moral values based in biblical fact, than, say Barney or Teletubbies. (not that there is anything wrong with them, just we find more value in the Veggies)
The stories the Veggies base their lessons on are "loose", however, they open a dialogue to tell the bible stories to our daughter.
I would be interested in listening to specific instances you have found them to be offensive or problematic? (I hope this does not sound like I am "flaming" you, I certainly am not, just trying to understand your point of view)
moonglow
Mar 16th 2005, 01:52 AM
Ok you are in eight grade, is that right? or is it ninth grade now? So you are around 16 years old. How many classes have you taken so far in child development? While I admire you thinking for yourself and having an opinion on this...without you having the education or experiences with very young children and how they cannot grasp many of the stories in the bible on a level you can, veggietales is just right for them. For young children and of course the parents (if the child is old enough) fill in the blanks for them.
If you are so outraged by veggietales, you need to take a look at some of these children's bible's out there....now they leave out huge chunks of information. why? Because young children cannot grasp much of it. Their brains are still developing for one thing...they take everything very literally.
Take me for instance...I am 44, when I was a kid they didn't have veggietails or these bibles just for children...and yes my dad read the bible to me for long BORING periods of time and I understood NONE of it...went totally over my head. :(
They also didn't have Children's church and I had to sit in church with my parents after Sunday School...and I misunderstood so much of what the preacher was saying I actually MISLEARNED alot of the bible.
Like when I was probably nine or ten I really thought a real tiny little temple was in my heart and a tiny little Jesus lived in there. Well that doesn't sound bad, right? Then one day the pastor read the story about the woman driving a tent nail through a man's temple...(his head). So after church I asked my mom and dad where was our temple? They showed me on the side of our head...so then I thought the temple where Jesus lived in me was on the side of my head and I walked around for days holding the side of my head afraid I would hit it and break the temple and some terrible thing would happen.
I also thought Jesus didn't exist until He was born here on earth. I got SO many things wrong about the bible because I was having to learn it on an adult level. :( Now as adult I have had to relearn alot!
I could tell you story after story of how I mislearned many things in the bible because it wasn't geared for children. :(
Yes I know Veggietales is not the full and complete story...and yes I read the story to my son....I used to used a regular bible but could see his eyes fogging over too...so now he has his own children's bible...which he can actually understand.
Learning about the bible is a life long activity...I don't want to see my son having to relearn the bible when he is older because of forcing him to listen to a bible made for adults only and never allowing him to learn through fun about the bible.
My son has outgrown Veggietales and now loves BibleMan! :D
I wanted to add..I am glad you have an opinion and are thinking for yourself but I also hate to see you so closed minded about something like this at such a young age. Always be open to learning more...I am too. We are never too old to learn something new. :)
God bless
living4him
Mar 16th 2005, 02:03 AM
My son has outgrown Veggietales and now loves BibleMan! :D
God bless
I'm glad you mentioned this. My son likes Bibleman but some of my family complained that it was scary and they thought it was questionable. I have read many of your posts and feel like you are level-headed and spirit-led. I knew Bibleman was ok, just needed back up.:)
moonglow
Mar 16th 2005, 02:13 AM
Oh thanks...(though I am not always 'level headed..sometimes my emotions get the best of me...something I always work on..;))
My sister gets BibleMan movies for Nate cause for a long time no one sold them here. So he really looks forward to getting them for his birthday. I watch them with him and the last couple of ones the 'bad guys' were pretty gross looking...one guy reminded me of Jerry Lewis...you know those old Jerry Lewis movies where he would have those buck teeth and messed up hair and glasses and act so goofy? This guy acted just like that, except he was all green and had really yucky teeth (see Nate...if you don't brush your teeth they are going to end up looking like that!! :lol: )
Now Nate is nine and him and one of his friend watched the one or two with the really gross looking bad guys..his friends little sister though didn't like it and went home....I talked to the mom and told her the bad guy in this show was especially yucky looking so she would know. I told the boys, this is how some bad people really look on the inside....gross! Which is pretty true...
BibleMan appeals to boys much more then girls because he is actually physically fighting the bad guys with their light up swords and he quotes scriptures all the way.
Plus I really like some of the dance scenes....heh ;) (and so does Nate..he will turn the volume up REALLY high and dance to it...lol)
God bless
living4him
Mar 16th 2005, 02:29 AM
BibleMan appeals to boys much more then girls because he is actually physically fighting the bad guys with their light up swords and he quotes scriptures all the way.
Plus I really like some of the dance scenes....heh ;) (and so does Nate..he will turn the volume up REALLY high and dance to it...lol)
God bless
I think you are correct about Bibleman appealing to boys. I used to think that boy behavior was learned. Man oh man now I know it is inate! Mine is very physical!:D
I want my son to know about spiritual warfare and to know that with Jesus there is nothing to fear. I did not grow up in a Christian home and I struggle sometimes trying to make mine one.
As for the dancing...I would be embarassed for people to look in my windows!LOL:lol: Little boys sure are special.
moonglow
Mar 16th 2005, 03:14 AM
I listen to Dr. Dobson alot and while I don't agree with everything he says, he is a child physcolgist(?) and had written a few books on boys...he has also had some wonderful guest speakers on about raising boys too. I learn alot. They said there is now medical proof that boys and girls brains are different...its NOT just physcially are different..their brains are too. They were made to be protectors, to fight if they have to, to protect their families...to work, this is why they are bigger and physicially stronger then women. And to be providers. In the OT we see many of the men going to war at God's command and physically fighting the enemy....even the bible says God is a warrior.
Exodus 15:
2 The LORD is my strength and my song;
he has become my salvation.
He is my God, and I will praise him,
my father's God, and I will exalt him.
3 The LORD is a warrior;
the LORD is his name.
4 Pharaoh's chariots and his army
he has hurled into the sea.
The best of Pharaoh's officers
are drowned in the Red Sea.
When a boy says, I got into a fight today...it usually means a physical fight. When a girl say, I got into a fight today, it usually mean a verbual fight....(this is why God gave us women more WORDS to use cause we don't have the muscles...;)) heh.
At one point even Jesus got physcial and made a whip and drove out the money changers in the temple and over turned tables....He was angry! Learning how to use that aggression in the right way though can be a challenge...as all mom's of boys knows... :rolleyes:
God bless
Doma
Mar 16th 2005, 04:15 AM
I am a parent who uses Veggie Tales. There are some concerns.
Specific examples..
the use of Ghosts (either in a Christma or Easter video, or both)
the use of Death, renamed a Tickle master or something like that. This was the one about David lusting after his neighbors rubber ducky.
But veggie tales will correct the stretching of Bible tales, I remember seeing Bob the Tomatoe (or something similar) telling Junior Asparagus, that they did NOt throw slushies at Jericho, that was just part of the story, they added.
Solution, we don't watch the ghost one any more.
karenmot
Mar 16th 2005, 04:41 AM
I love Veggie Tales..
In particular some of the Silly Songs..
Larry's High Silk Hat ( "a great big squash just sat upon my hat....")
The Argentinian Dance of the Cucumber
The Song of the Cebu
The Pirates Who Don't Do Anything
The Yodeling Veteranarian of the Alps
I could go on.....
I also love Rack Shack and Benny and the Bunny Song (not the "new and improved version")
I am a real fan.
I have 10 children. We own several Veggie videos. No one is getting messed up as a result, be assured......
the J Man
Mar 16th 2005, 05:21 AM
Sorry if I miss spelled that (or that), but am I the only one on earth that finds veggietials as unbiblical and completely miss leading? Am I the only one boycotting them? Am I the only one who thinks that a child should never ever wach these movies?
Your not the only one who finds them to be misleading. Log into http://www.crossroad.to/articles2/2002/veggie.htm That site explains how they mislead people and addstuff in that isn't in the Word. We are not to take or add anthing to the Word of God, but this does.
ddlewis86
Mar 16th 2005, 05:37 AM
Warning..............boycott mankind! They are all evil! :rolleyes:
the J Man
Mar 16th 2005, 06:43 AM
Warning..............boycott mankind! They are all evil! :rolleyes:
As far as this Veggie tale stuff is concerned, I'm not saying that we should boycott it, but we need to use discernment and know what is acceptable to God and what is not. When something takes and adds from the Word of God, we can take that lightly. Deuteronomy4:2, 12:32 and Revelation22:18,19 tell us that straight out. God does not want us watching stuff or having stuff in our lives that twists His Word around.
Hebrews5:14-"But strong meat belongs to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern good and evil.
Are we discerning good form evil? Unfortunately too many are not. We need to be able to tell the difference between truth and error.
Doma
Mar 16th 2005, 06:50 AM
Warning..............boycott mankind! They are all evil! :rolleyes:
Where can I sign up for this petition?
ddlewis86
Mar 16th 2005, 07:16 AM
As far as this Veggie tale stuff is concerned, I'm not saying that we should boycott it, but we need to use discernment and know what is acceptable to God and what is not. When something takes and adds from the Word of God, we can take that lightly. Deuteronomy4:2, 12:32 and Revelation22:18,19 tell us that straight out. God does not want us watching stuff or having stuff in our lives that twists His Word around.
Hebrews5:14-"But strong meat belongs to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern good and evil.
Are we discerning good form evil? Unfortunately too many are not. We need to be able to tell the difference between truth and error.
Then in all honesty J man, none of us should post on this board either. Whether or not we unknowingly accept twisted teaching or inadvertantly interpret God's word in a "twisted" manner, we are all guilty of the same to some extent. :hmm:
the J Man
Mar 16th 2005, 07:22 AM
Then in all honesty J man, none of us should post on this board either. Whether or not we unknowingly accept twisted teaching or inadvertantly interpret God's word in a "twisted" manner, we are all guilty of the same to some extent. :hmm:And what do you do when you find yourself guilty of it? You should repent of it. God does not want His people being decieved. He wants us to embrace the truth and live by it. Veggie tales twisting the Word around and taking and adding to the Word is twisting His truth around. How does God feel about Veggie Tales if it twists His Word around and takes and adds from His Word?
ddlewis86
Mar 16th 2005, 07:25 AM
And what do you do when you find yourself guilty of it? You should repent of it. God does not want His people being decieved. He wants us to embrace the truth and live by it. Veggie tales twisting the Word around and taking and adding to the Word is twisting His truth around. How does God feel about Veggie Tales if it twists His Word around and takes and adds from His Word?
Can you give me a specific example of Veggietales adding or taking away from His word?
the J Man
Mar 16th 2005, 07:30 AM
Can you give me a specific example of Veggietales adding or taking away from His word?
Did you read that article I posted? I gives specifics.
qbee
Mar 16th 2005, 07:32 AM
As far as this Veggie tale stuff is concerned, I'm not saying that we should boycott it, but we need to use discernment and know what is acceptable to God and what is not. When something takes and adds from the Word of God, we can take that lightly. Deuteronomy4:2, 12:32 and Revelation22:18,19 tell us that straight out. God does not want us watching stuff or having stuff in our lives that twists His Word around.
Hebrews5:14-"But strong meat belongs to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern good and evil.
Are we discerning good form evil? Unfortunately too many are not. We need to be able to tell the difference between truth and error.
YES..Strong meat for those of full age...
But Milk and veggietails for the babes..:)
I read the script for veggietails Jonah...
The message was the same told in language a child could understand...
Nothing decieving came forth in this story.. Jonah was left with egg on
his face so to speak just as the real Jonah was... He was not happy with
Gods desision... and didnt understand God could show mercy to Niveah..
Jonah wanted revenge... God showed mercy... Jonah pouted...
roshkoch
Mar 16th 2005, 08:37 AM
I'm gonna boycott Christians.
They are hypocrites.
They are liars.
They sin.
They use out of context scripture to prove themselves right and others wrong.
They make mistakes.
And I'm boycotting churches because they are full of sin and sinners.
karenmot
Mar 16th 2005, 01:08 PM
I'm gonna boycott Christians.
They are hypocrites.
They are liars.
They sin.
They use out of context scripture to prove themselves right and others wrong.
They make mistakes.
And I'm boycotting churches because they are full of sin and sinners.
Amen, Rosh. I'm with you.
Wolfdragon
Mar 16th 2005, 02:48 PM
Oh boy, I dunno if I should admit this, but I was watching veggietales with my nephew the other day, and I was learning things. I mean, they don't stick completely to the bible, but you have to keep kids attention and how better than using singing veggies? Well anyways, they have great moral use for kids and the kids learn about the bible at the same time. And like I said, even I learned somethings I didn't know already. I guess being a new believe means you can get good info from even talking veggies. :saint:
wendythepooh
Mar 16th 2005, 02:56 PM
LOL I completely understand where you are coming from. There are so many things that I learn, and some things just make me want to go look it up in the Bible! These stories I have seen, not only Veggietales, but others as well, get me to thinking and wanting to make sure I have understood things correctly! I've been a Christian for a while now, but I really still feel like a babe so often! :)
Oh boy, I dunno if I should admit this, but I was watching veggietales with my nephew the other day, and I was learning things. I mean, they don't stick completely to the bible, but you have to keep kids attention and how better than using singing veggies? Well anyways, they have great moral use for kids and the kids learn about the bible at the same time. And like I said, even I learned somethings I didn't know already. I guess being a new believe means you can get good info from even talking veggies. :saint:
moonglow
Mar 16th 2005, 02:57 PM
Our church has been having special events for the children on Friday evenings...so far they have just done it twice (we are a new church just starting up) but both times they showed a Veggietale movie but also read the actual scriptures too. The first time we did Joah and the whale (big fish). First the scriptures was read, then they did artwork of a cup with a cut out drawing of a big fish, one for each side of the cup....then put a string through it to attach to a round clothpin, in which the kids drew a face on the 'head' and could color in a shirt and pants. When pulling the string the little man got swallowed by the big fish....it was really cute. Then we all sat around watching the Veggie tale movie of Joah while eating popcorn and other treats. The age range for the kids was from baby to 11 or 12 yr old. A very wide age range there.
The next time we got together we did Daniel in the Lion's Den. The scriptures were read, the kids did hand gestures the next time the scriptures were read (after being told what to do for 'king' 'lion's' 'Daniel' and so forth. Then later after other activities they did a little 'play' acting it out....Nate was one of the 'bad guys' that got Daniel thrown into the Lion's Den. So scriptures were gone over at least three times before they ever watched the Veggie Tales movie on it.
When it came to the part when the 'bad guys' get thrown into the Lion's Den along with their wives and children....the children don't grasp how truly horrible that would have been. Alot of the bible is extremely voilent and graphic...and I personally didn't feel comfortable in reading some of this to Nate when he was younger. If the whole bible were made into a movie much of it would be R rated with even some X rated parts.
We need to spoon feed our children when they are little.
When I was a kid sitting in church with my parents listening to the preacher I heard about all sorts of murders and other things that frankly were pretty scarey...like the example I gave before of the preacher reading about the lady hamming a tent nail through a man head. At the time I didn't understand the 'temple' she drove the nail through was actually his head though....ewwwwww.
At our old church there were times I was SO glad Nate was down in children's church because of the scriptures read and historal information the preacher added which was extremely gruesome...while true, it wasn't something a young child needed to hear for sure. Plus the preacher at that time would talk about porn, abortion, adultery, etc, etc, all very adult topics.
Veggtails is not the bible...so why does it have to be excate anyway? We can pick everything in this world to death to the point we can't move, or see or hear anything without some fear or worry...and how many times does the bible tell us to 'fear not'? I don't want to worry about every tiny little biny thing that goes on. Even Paul says we can't expect to avoid all wickness in this world, we would have to leave the world to do that! And we are to be the light of the world....not hiding from it.
God bless
wendythepooh
Mar 16th 2005, 03:07 PM
I agree with you completely, Julie! I remember being a child sitting in the pew with my grandparents and hearing sermons about how people would go to hell if they weren't totally for God, they would go to hell if they loved themselves, and i thought that meant I was never to question things that I didn't understand, and that I was not supposed to like myself at all, and that I was going to hell because I got a new dress that I liked to wear. As a child, my mind was not ready for those types of sermons at all. Silly as that all sounds...kids are just that...kids not yet ready for meat. :)
Coll
Mar 16th 2005, 03:43 PM
I wonder how many parents here give their children things with Bible verses on them? I wonder because if you are taking the verse out of context, then you are not teaching your children the proper way to study the Bible. So, you should stop that, or boycott all things made with one Bible verse printed on them.
You would tell me I am wrong for saying such a thing, probably, and I would agree. I give my daughter stuff with Bible verses on them, stickers, note pads,stuff... I don't give them to her to learn the Bible from, I give them to her as reinforcement. If you are plopping your kids in front of the tv and putting on something you want them to learn from, you should be staying in the room, watching with them. They might have questions. It might go totally against something you are trying to teach them. I recall my daughter questioning something in a veggie story once, we looked it up in the Bible, then it was clear to her.
My point is.... Veggie tales should not be being used as the Bible to teach your kids. It should be a reinforcement of what they have already learned.
moonglow
Mar 16th 2005, 03:55 PM
I wonder how many parents here give their children things with Bible verses on them? I wonder because if you are taking the verse out of context, then you are not teaching your children the proper way to study the Bible. So, you should stop that, or boycott all things made with one Bible verse printed on them.
You would tell me I am wrong for saying such a thing, probably, and I would agree. I give my daughter stuff with Bible verses on them, stickers, note pads,stuff... I don't give them to her to learn the Bible from, I give them to her as reinforcement. If you are plopping your kids in front of the tv and putting on something you want them to learn from, you should be staying in the room, watching with them. They might have questions. It might go totally against something you are trying to teach them. I recall my daughter questioning something in a veggie story once, we looked it up in the Bible, then it was clear to her.
My point is.... Veggie tales should not be being used as the Bible to teach your kids. It should be a reinforcement of what they have already learned.
I agree, and I think from what most people said on here, the parents are watching Veggietales with their kids and answering questions that come up. And reading the actual bible story to them also, either before they watch it or afterwards. Its an extention of learning about the bible for children too young to really understand much of the bible yet. Like single bible verses on things...and other books, movies, tapes, sermons, are all part of the learning process. A sermon never covers the WHOLE bible...they can't, it would be impossible. They can only do a little at a time.
Big T
Mar 16th 2005, 04:15 PM
They mislead children How?
-Bible charicters and veggies don't go together any more then Joseph should be shown as a pig Why not? It makes it easy for kids to learn and remember
-Parts are made-up Which ones? The pirates? or the talking vegetables?
-After waching veggietails, why can't I just make up my own version of the Bible? Do they claim to be a version of the bible?
-Do you think that God would really smile down at veggietails? Yes
-Parents should spend time READING to their child and teaching their child, not plopping them down in front of the tube Yes they should, and TV is not bad for kids to watch
-their ARE good alternatives. Yes there are. There are good alternatives to everything
-I know children who would wach veggietails and learn what DIDN'T happen, but wouldn't listen to a Bible lesson and learn the TRUETH. Because children have no attention span. If they won't listen to a bible study, what makes you think they'll listen to their parents reading?
-We shouldn't have to lie to children to make them listen to the "Bible" true, and the veggietales do more than teach the bible.
I'm thinking about boycotting boycotts.
New_Mom
Mar 16th 2005, 04:27 PM
OK. Let's go easy on Jennifer. If she's in the eighth grade like her profile reads, she's 13 or 14 at the oldest. Not much past a kid herself.
Jerome
Mar 16th 2005, 05:07 PM
I can tell you when I was a child, all we had was "Davey and Goliath". And that show wasn't all that great. Also, when my daughters were small, there was really nothing out there for them either.
Look, our children aren't watching Veggie Tales to analyze the theological accuracy of what they are doing. I beleive you do have to give the producers some latitude as to how things are presented in these shows and videos.
It's great when we as parents can play a video for our children and encourage them to watch and enjoy it, when otherwise, we are strictly limiting what they could watch on secular television.
Come on, and give the Veggies a break...they are doing the best they can with what they have.
My fav is Larry Boy.
kranich
Mar 16th 2005, 05:15 PM
Thirty-two, now thirty-three posts debating Vegietales...
must be a slow news day.
KingdomBound
Mar 16th 2005, 05:18 PM
My 4 and 5 year olds love Veggietales. My 10 and 8 year olds cannot stand Veggietales.
I could see why a 13/14 year old would very much dislike the Veggies.
As for me.... I love Veggietales! My kids keep telling me to grow up! :D
PS~ the only Veggietale I didn't care for was the clip where they talk about St. Patrick. That clip seemed very catholic to me, so I was dissapointed.. but I believe that one was made after Veggietales had been sold to someone else.
moonglow
Mar 16th 2005, 05:29 PM
I can tell you when I was a child, all we had was "Davey and Goliath". And that show wasn't all that great. Also, when my daughters were small, there was really nothing out there for them either.
Look, our children aren't watching Veggie Tales to analyze the theological accuracy of what they are doing. I beleive you do have to give the producers some latitude as to how things are presented in these shows and videos.
It's great when we as parents can play a video for our children and encourage them to watch and enjoy it, when otherwise, we are strictly limiting what they could watch on secular television.
Come on, and give the Veggies a break...they are doing the best they can with what they have.
My fav is Larry Boy.
I agree totally too...especially the part about how our kids aren't trying to analyze the theological accuracy of what they see on Veggie tale....Larry Boy is my favorite too...;)
kranich Thirty-two, now thirty-three posts debating Vegietales...
must be a slow news day.
Hey this is much better then talking about what is on the news anymore...much less depressing for sure.
Now I think we should all do a Larry Boy sing-a-long!! :pp :pp
I like the song about the brush when none of them have any hair... :lol:
roshkoch
Mar 16th 2005, 05:36 PM
Am I the only one who remembers the SuperBook cartoons?
I grew up on them.
moonglow
Mar 16th 2005, 05:40 PM
Am I the only one who remembers the SuperBook cartoons?
I grew up on them.
sorry, guy...none of us are THAT old.... :lol: :lol:
Big T
Mar 16th 2005, 05:48 PM
poor tomato that can't dance. :(
Sissy
Mar 16th 2005, 05:51 PM
My kids have about outgrown Veggie Tales but they still love the Veggie Rocks cd where Christian rock bands sing all the popular Veggie Tale songs. (Audio Adrenaline, Skillet, Newsboys, etc.)
The O.C. Supertones singing, "I Can Be Your Friend" is my fave.
Phish
Mar 16th 2005, 06:03 PM
poor tomato that can't dance. :(
He can't even whistle.
I love all the songs.
I can't believe there is a thread to boycott veggie tales. Why don't we boycott something else that might be a little worse off like, Da Vinci Code or something.
roshkoch
Mar 16th 2005, 06:18 PM
sorry, guy...none of us are THAT old.... :lol: :lol:
http://www.christianbook.com/Christian/Books/product?event=AFF&p=1013360&item_no=62230X
I learned all of ym Bible Stories from these cartoons. The one on Job is the BEST!!!
We still have old copies in the church library. I should get a new set since the ones the church has are pretty beat. I wish they had DVD tho, just VHS for now.
There IS a petition going around tho.
wendythepooh
Mar 16th 2005, 06:20 PM
Oh, yes...our church has those in the library as well. I had forgotten until I actually saw them from the link!
http://www.christianbook.com/Christian/Books/product?event=AFF&p=1013360&item_no=62230X
I learned all of ym Bible Stories from these cartoons. The one on Job is the BEST!!!
We still have old copies in the church library. I should get a new set since the ones the church has are pretty beat. I wish they had DVD tho, just VHS for now.
There IS a petition going around tho.
BamaFlum
Mar 16th 2005, 06:35 PM
My kids watch them occasionally. Some are great, some okay. My favorite and the one we have watched the most is Sumo--as an English teacher I love the English stuff in them. The St Patty short is okay. The point was that he perservered through a heck of a lot for God and never abandoned his faith. Pretty good lesson if you ask me. The point is discussing them with your kids.
BTW, I can't believe that no one has brought up that Jesus taught in parables/stories so the people could relate to them: God is a shepherd and we are sheep, etc.
Meshell74
Mar 17th 2005, 03:09 AM
I love veggie tales! don't have kids of my own but have a alot of V.T. movies, two of the kids I watch are buddhist, 8 & 11, they love them and its a great way to start conv. with them! their fav. one is the chocolate bunny... they think it is strange people would worship anything but God. ironic hu??
my only complaint is they never mention Jesus... only old testament things.
karenmot
Mar 17th 2005, 03:46 AM
I can tell you when I was a child, all we had was "Davey and Goliath". And that show wasn't all that great.
I loved Davey and Goliath -- it was one of my favorites as a kid.
karenmot
Mar 17th 2005, 03:50 AM
Am I the only one who remembers the SuperBook cartoons?
I grew up on them.
I loved Superbook -- my older kids grew up on them.
Anyone remember Flying House (also made by CBN)?
And did anyone ever watch Gospel Bill? I loved that show. Recently my kids and I have gotten some videos out of the library that are Marshall Bill Gunter, made by Willie George Ministries, with all of the old familiar Gospel Bill characters. One that we watched had Kenneth Copeland in it as Witchita Slim.
Lori
Mar 17th 2005, 04:04 AM
Anyone remember Timothy the Church Mouse?
kayte
Mar 17th 2005, 05:16 PM
I say we send the veggie's through a salad shooter. My grandkids love having larry and bob for dinner. :eek:
BTW, I can't believe that no one has brought up that Jesus taught in parables/stories so the people could relate to them: God is a shepherd and we are sheep, etc.
Actually... this was a great point BamaFlum made.
I think my favorite song is We Are the Pirates Who Don't Do Anything. :cool:
Dustin
Feb 14th 2008, 05:14 AM
You’re wrong! Because you seem to think that it is bad for children to be taught in a way that they can understand. Children have a different mind set than that of adults, they need to have things told to them in a way that is fun and entertaining. Children sometimes need to be told things in story form, as do some adults, that is why Jesus used parables. Jesus knew how to talk to a crowd and get their attention. So saying that you boycott Veggietails is like saying you are boycotting Jesus Christ’s method of teaching. Having veggies teach children is just a creative way of getting the basic point across. Also some details may not be exact to the Bible, however, there are some things that need to be “tweaked” to allow the children to understand what is going. For instance, in the Veggietails production of Esther, the creators of Veggietails have the attempted assassination of King Xerxes by way of a piano. In the Bible there is an attempted assassination, but not by a piano. Children would have a hard time understanding what is going on if it were told the actual way
daughter
Feb 14th 2008, 07:01 AM
Oh thanks...(though I am not always 'level headed..sometimes my emotions get the best of me...something I always work on..;))
My sister gets BibleMan movies for Nate cause for a long time no one sold them here. So he really looks forward to getting them for his birthday. I watch them with him and the last couple of ones the 'bad guys' were pretty gross looking...one guy reminded me of Jerry Lewis...you know those old Jerry Lewis movies where he would have those buck teeth and messed up hair and glasses and act so goofy? This guy acted just like that, except he was all green and had really yucky teeth (see Nate...if you don't brush your teeth they are going to end up looking like that!! :lol: )
Now Nate is nine and him and one of his friend watched the one or two with the really gross looking bad guys..his friends little sister though didn't like it and went home....I talked to the mom and told her the bad guy in this show was especially yucky looking so she would know. I told the boys, this is how some bad people really look on the inside....gross! Which is pretty true...
BibleMan appeals to boys much more then girls because he is actually physically fighting the bad guys with their light up swords and he quotes scriptures all the way.
Plus I really like some of the dance scenes....heh ;) (and so does Nate..he will turn the volume up REALLY high and dance to it...loll)
God bless
I've never heard of Bibleman... would it appeal to an eleven, nearly twelve year old, whose into science fiction? He's watched the Jonah Veggie Tales thing with a seven year old friend of his, but I could tell he was doing the "big brother" thing of baby sitting for a wee lad. (He loves looking after little kids.)
He tells stories to other kids from the Bible all the time. David as a young man comes across the way Seamus tells it like Robin Hood, as an old man he's more like an old King Arthur. Solomon is a superhero, "only real", Peter is "tough guy" or "Rocky" or... "bit of a prat" when he's messing up. When he told his chess club last year the story of the Passion he had kids crying... specially when Peter rejects Jesus, and "then the cock crew, and Jesus just looked up at Peter, and Peter realised what he'd done and ran off and cried." He carried on telling them about Pentecost, and the Book of Acts which in his telling is like a thriller. Oh, and the way he tells Paul's story, it's like he's describing the French resistance or something...
I have to get him on tape telling these stories to other kids! It's amazing!
militarywife
Feb 14th 2008, 07:07 AM
I've never heard of Bibleman... would it appeal to an eleven, nearly twelve year old, whose into science fiction? He's watched the Jonah Veggie Tales thing with a seven year old friend of his, but I could tell he was doing the "big brother" thing of baby sitting for a wee lad. (He loves looking after little kids.)
He tells stories to other kids from the Bible all the time. David as a young man comes across the way Seamus tells it like Robin Hood, as an old man he's more like an old King Arthur. Solomon is a superhero, "only real", Peter is "tough guy" or "Rocky" or... "bit of a prat" when he's messing up. When he told his chess club last year the story of the Passion he had kids crying... specially when Peter rejects Jesus, and "then the cock crew, and Jesus just looked up at Peter, and Peter realised what he'd done and ran off and cried." He carried on telling them about Pentecost, and the Book of Acts which in his telling is like a thriller. Oh, and the way he tells Paul's story, it's like he's describing the French resistance or something...
I have to get him on tape telling these stories to other kids! It's amazing!
My son LOVED Bibleman at that age. I think it is worth a shot. I also think the younger ones would like it too.
:)
daughter
Feb 14th 2008, 07:09 AM
Okay.. . now I have to track them down in the UK... thank you all for finding something else I can use for my son!
Follow_Me_Infantry
Feb 14th 2008, 11:46 AM
Why would anyone bump a topic that is 2 years and 10 months old for their first post?
Just curious.
teddyv
Feb 14th 2008, 03:16 PM
Why would anyone bump a topic that is 2 years and 10 months old for their first post?
Just curious.
Probably googling, found a link and forgot to check the date.
I was thinking of making a comment about resurrection, but that might be considered a bit dodgy.:)
I<3Jesus
Feb 14th 2008, 04:26 PM
Why would anyone bump a topic that is 2 years and 10 months old for their first post?
Just curious.
I don't know, but I am not going to boycott something based on the incoherent ramblings of a junior high student ;) I have never seen Veggie Tales, but it sounds cute.
Follow_Me_Infantry
Feb 14th 2008, 04:50 PM
I don't know, but I am not going to boycott something based on the incoherent ramblings of a junior high student ;) I have never seen Veggie Tales, but it sounds cute.
I'm never going to boycott anything for any reason... except boycotting.
I find people who boycott selfish, immature, and shallow, not to mention the waste of time and energy. This is America - everyone has a right to an opinion and an entertainment. If you don't agree with it, wouldn't NOT expending any energy on it be more sensible than trying to gather a following to boycott? Get a job!
(Not YOU, I<3Jesus, I mean people who waste their energy calling for boycotts and sending me spam mail in my inbox to not buy gas one day... like I just won't need twice as much the next day, LOL)
I<3Jesus
Feb 14th 2008, 07:03 PM
Can I just go on the record now and say I hate spam mail and forwards? I think it is insulting that some people I know cannot be bothered to take two minutes to draft an email that says hello, but they can spam my inbox with forwards that are years old and have been proven wrong by Snopes. ARGH!
Follow_Me_Infantry
Feb 14th 2008, 07:29 PM
Can I just go on the record now and say I hate spam mail and forwards? I think it is insulting that some people I know cannot be bothered to take two minutes to draft an email that says hello, but they can spam my inbox with forwards that are years old and have been proven wrong by Snopes. ARGH!
An old friend, Sara, sends me every daggum survey she ever gets... ARRRGGGHHHHHHHH!
I HATE it when people fill up my email inbox with worthless junk. I don't care what your favorite color is or if you ever licked a cd to make it not skip or what age you'll be in 2012. Send me a mail forward, and be sure I'll delete it faster than I can scream :lol:
Semi-tortured
Feb 14th 2008, 11:22 PM
An old friend, Sara, sends me every daggum survey she ever gets... ARRRGGGHHHHHHHH!
I HATE it when people fill up my email inbox with worthless junk. I don't care what your favorite color is or if you ever licked a cd to make it not skip or what age you'll be in 2012. Send me a mail forward, and be sure I'll delete it faster than I can scream :lol:
Dang it. I clicked on your profile to try and forward you a bunch of lame emails, but you have it blocked. :lol:
Big T
Feb 14th 2008, 11:53 PM
this is an old thread, no need to beat a dead horse.