Well, perhaps it is time finally to explain what I mean when I indicate that Rev. 20:4-6 are VISION verses: Rev. 20 4And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ ...