Young men and Responsibility.

[Revinius]

There is a real lack of responsibility in my generation and it wears thin (on me) sometimes. We are a generation of 20 something year old boys who still somehow think we are in our teens. It should be a blow to our pride to still be so thoughtless. I think Mark Driscoll was right in saying the new best pickup line for a Christian single man is: "I love Jesus, i have a job, and i am moving out of my parents place!"

Any thoughts on this?

[Jurell]

I honestly feel that it falls back on the parents. Last year I was interviewing to be a "corrections councilor" at a juvenile correctional facility. One of the questions I was asked was, "why do you think most of these kids are here?"

I said because their parents failed them. The guy put down his pen & took off his glasses and asked me what I meant. I told him that if their parents had actually done their job and taught their kids right and wrong, how to be responsible and that their actions have consequences. Instead of doing that, they tried to be a friend... Parents can be a friend... when their kids are finishing college and starting their life. Until then, you give then enough line that they are capable of handling, but stay on the "Parent soapbox"

[Buck shot]

http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/4/4_17_211.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZNfox000) I do agree that my generation, parents now in their late 30's and 40's have failed in teaching our children the things they need to know to leave the nest. Maybe we thought we would always be able to do for them...i don't know, but it's sad...

Maybe we did not realise the need to be strict like our parents were...

[Jurell]

Look at the kids that come home from boot camp. They have manors, say please & thank you, and act appropriately... what's funny is their Drill Instructors DON'T teach them this...

[Revinius]

I honestly feel that it falls back on the parents. Last year I was interviewing to be a "corrections councilor" at a juvenile correctional facility. One of the questions I was asked was, "why do you think most of these kids are here?"

I said because their parents failed them. The guy put down his pen & took off his glasses and asked me what I meant. I told him that if their parents had actually done their job and taught their kids right and wrong, how to be responsible and that their actions have consequences. Instead of doing that, they tried to be a friend... Parents can be a friend... when their kids are finishing college and starting their life. Until then, you give then enough line that they are capable of handling, but stay on the "Parent soapbox"

You get the job?

[Jurell]

I was offered the job, but did not take it. I found something else that paid better, had better hours and was A LOT less stress.

[lbeaty1981]

Growing up in the country, there was always fence to be built, hay to be hauled, horse lots to be cleaned, and all kinds of other wonderful things to do. My parents told me at the time that it "built character." I didn't believe them until I went off to college. Since then, I've met a whole lot of people who could benefit greatly from a summer of hauling hay! :lol:

[hoojoe]

I honestly feel that it falls back on the parents. Last year I was interviewing to be a "corrections councilor" at a juvenile correctional facility. One of the questions I was asked was, "why do you think most of these kids are here?"

I said because their parents failed them. The guy put down his pen & took off his glasses and asked me what I meant. I told him that if their parents had actually done their job and taught their kids right and wrong, how to be responsible and that their actions have consequences. Instead of doing that, they tried to be a friend... Parents can be a friend... when their kids are finishing college and starting their life. Until then, you give then enough line that they are capable of handling, but stay on the "Parent soapbox"

You've hit the nail on the head. I agree with you 100%.

[baxpack7]

Well what about the kids who have been raised by one parent? Whether by divorce, separation, or even death, you have to give those parents some slack. I've been a youth minister/director for a few years now and I've seen kids get into trouble because they haven't had both parents in the house to discipline them when they do wrong. You acn't really blame parents (at least not both of them) when they aren't able to help each other out with their children's growth.

[Revinius]

Well what about the kids who have been raised by one parent? Whether by divorce, separation, or even death, you have to give those parents some slack. I've been a youth minister/director for a few years now and I've seen kids get into trouble because they haven't had both parents in the house to discipline them when they do wrong. You acn't really blame parents (at least not both of them) when they aren't able to help each other out with their children's growth.

I am generalising that kids generally arent given the responsibility they need to become men.

[ph33r]

I am generalising that kids generally arent given the responsibility they need to become men.

Alot of this falls on the fathers not being proper role models for their children. Like my wife says if your walk isn't right with Christ you can't guide anyone else. With the obsession in todays society with self-indulgence, discouraging men to be actual male role models and encouraging them to be more so nice wimps, and the prevalent lack of values its no wonder our children are confused and grow up selfish and with no real sense of reality. I just hope that I can be a good spiritual role model to my two kids and show them there is more to the world then success, good looks, and what makes "them" happy.

[Big T]

I hate to agree with the OP on this. Only cuz it makes me sad.

I manage a 25 year old guy and he has this total entitlement attitude. He actually believes that I owe him this job. He was complaining that he has not moved up to full time sales, within the 4 months he's been with the company. So I showed him why. He's not even doing the bare minimum requirements of his current position. He says that we demand too much of him. To which I replied, "If you think I demand too much, wait til you have customers."

The thing is that every generation seems to get more and more lazy. And then complains about how much they're paid. They guy in my office would not make it in business, 25 years ago. He'd be fired in a heartbeat.

[Revinius]

Well, the problem comes from a lack of Christ. I was a lazy little idiot (still am a little) and it was Christ who made me realise how short life really is and the true basis for getting off my bum -> glorifying Him.

[TruthFaith]

I honestly feel that it falls back on the parents. Last year I was interviewing to be a "corrections councilor" at a juvenile correctional facility. One of the questions I was asked was, "why do you think most of these kids are here?"

I said because their parents failed them. The guy put down his pen & took off his glasses and asked me what I meant. I told him that if their parents had actually done their job and taught their kids right and wrong, how to be responsible and that their actions have consequences. Instead of doing that, they tried to be a friend... Parents can be a friend... when their kids are finishing college and starting their life. Until then, you give then enough line that they are capable of handling, but stay on the "Parent soapbox"


I think parents should always be parents and not friends, like who would you look up to besides Jesus?

Also, we all have the ability to make the right choices according to the universal law of morality, thatwe feelwhat is right and wrong in our hearts...

[Ekeak]

Well, the problem comes from a lack of Christ. I was a lazy little idiot (still am a little) and it was Christ who made me realise how short life really is and the true basis for getting off my bum -> glorifying Him.

Wow... and that points ^^^ (And I know you know what I mean). Basically, either you've changed a lot since then, or the rest of the world (besides you and those upstairs) had better get a little more faith!

-ekeak

[RedBird777]

It is up to the parents to teach their children from right and wrong. However, once their children are fully mature young men and women, then it is up to THEM to make the right choice.

It is truly a fault of the parents for the minds of the children, but it is up to the child to actually do what is right.

I've seen kids come from Christian households go completely anti-God, and I've seen kids with single-parent or no-parent homes turn into extremely Godly Christians. So part of it is being saved as well.

[Forth the March]

It's not always the parents' fault though.

Sometimes people get caught up in their friends and don't realize how much of an infuence they have on them.

There are a lot of people who would easily steal just because a friend told them to do it.