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DawninPA
Sep 5th 2008, 07:22 PM
Hello;

I am struggling to overcome being hurt by the church my fiance and I had been attending, and found this forum when doing a search for Christian support. I've lurked a bit and have liked the caring, and sometimes blunt but never judgmental, responses I see here.

My fiancee & I attended a neighborhood church for Christmas Eve one year. We found the people to be very warm and welcoming, and while it took us a while to find the willpower to get up on Sunday morning and go, we finally did and began attending regularly. In August of 2007 we met with the pastor to discuss becoming members. We had 3 sessions in which we learned (reviewed, for us) the basic tenets of Christianity, and at the end the Pastor expressed concern about the fact that we lived together. We explained that we met because I when I moved down here, I stayed with a friend from school. He is that friend's younger brother, and he lived there too. My son and my friend's son grew to be very close, so rather than separate them, we all stayed together as roommates. Then Chris & I began spending more time together and fell in love. I will not lie and say that our relationship was not immoral, but after our meetings with the Pastor, we decided we wanted to honor God and remain celibate until our marriage. We shared this with my friend and my son (her son passed away very suddenly in February of 2006) so that they could act as 'chaperones' for us.

We got involved with this church and attended Sunday school and main service on Sunday, and fellowship meetings on Wednesday night. And while everyone was friendly while we were there, we didn't seem to be making and Christian friends that we could meet and fellowship with outside of church. Then we started noticing little things like, although we went to the pre-meeting dinner every Wednesday night, nobody ever invited us to sit with them, nor did anyone come and join us. Several women would mention their montly "circle" meetings, but when I said I had never been asked to join one, no invitation was every forthcoming. I signed up to volunteer for VBS, and even though the director got up each Sunday and said "We still need volunteers!", when I asked her about helping she'd say "Oh, I'll be in touch."

My father had an accident at home in November in 2007 and was ill and in the hospital and then a nursing home for many months. Finally, in April of this year, they said they were getting ready to get him to come home, so Chris & I drove up to PA (we live in FL right now) to see if he'd be okay with just my mom to take care of him, or if we'd have to move up to help. A few days before we got there, he came down with a cold. The day we arrived, they did a chest x-ray and noted a shadow at the bottom. Another x-ray of his abdomen showed a large mass behind his stomach. On Wednesday, April 30, the biopsy came back showing that the mass was cancerous. On Thursday, May 1st, my father died. When the social worker was having me make the necessary phone calls, she asked if we had a church at home. When we said we did, she said "Why not call them and let them know, so they can be praying for you?" I had Chris call, and when he got the pastor he said he was letting him know my father had passed away. The pastor said "Oh, when?" When Chris said "Actually, just about an hour ago," the pastor replied "You know, people generally don't call me this soon after a death. Call me back tomorrow." No "I'm sorry", no "You'll be in my/our prayers."

Thinking Chris had not heard him correctly, I called back the next day and asked to speak to him. The secretary said to me, as if I should have known, "He's not here - he went to a conference. Did you want something?"

All that hurt and was very disappointing to us, but what's worse is that in all the time since then, over 4 months, NO ONE from the church has called us to check on us, to find out why we'd stopped coming, etc. Chris has run into 2 people from our very small Sunday School class, and neither expressed sympathy for the loss of my father or concern for why we hadn't been to church.

I can't seem to get over this. I still cry over the loss of my church as much as I cry over the loss of my father. I miss worshipping so much, but I won't go back to that church and am afraid to try another church. I had a bad experience with another church, when I was 'shunned' for divorcing my adulterous, physically abusive husband when he began to abuse our son.

I'm sorry this is so long and thank you for reading it.

Maverick57
Sep 5th 2008, 08:24 PM
I'm very sorry to hear about your father's passing and all the struggle you have faced with the church yall were attending.

Sometimes folks can be very narrowminded in the Christian community and not be very Christian at all. This is a sad but true fact with alot of churches today.

But dont despair and give up on your search for a loving and welcoming church. There are some good ones still out there. It may take some time but your experience with this poorly behaved church can serve as a learning experience. Now you know what you are not looking for in a church. Pray God will lead yall to the right one and dont give up.

God Bless yall

Sold Out
Sep 5th 2008, 09:39 PM
This is shameful....a local body of believers treating you this way!

Find another church. This one is not functioning properly.

My husband and I went thru a similar situation about 9 yrs ago. We joined a small baptist church in our town. We volunteered to teach Sunday School (no one else would do it), I worked VBS, and we were there every Sunday morning, Sunday night & Wednesday night.

In July 1999, my husband was diagnosed with a brain tumor. The young pastor and his wife were very nice and caring, but the other members were cold as ice. When he had surgery to have it removed in Jan 2000, not one church member came to the hospital, sent a card, called - nothing. Only the pastor came to the hospital, and he didn't even pray with my husband before he went into surgery! We were so hurt, and we could have used so much help those first days he was home.

Another couple in the church sensed the same coldness, and they had started visiting another church. They invited us to visit too. That was the best decision we ever made. The pastor was phenomenal (our current pastor) and we promptly left our church. Now we attend the most unique soul-winning church I've ever had the privilege of attending.

I say all that to give you hope....God will lead you to the right fellowship, and He might use a negative situation to bring about a positive outcome. Don't get discouraged!

DawninPA
Sep 6th 2008, 04:43 PM
Thank you both for the replies. This has not only shaken my faith in the church, but my faith in God as well. I am having a hard time not taking this personally - so many of these people were very wonderful and caring and, I believe, true Christians. Yet if no one wanted to "pull us closer" or missed us when we were gone, then what does that say about our worth in their eyes? It makes me feel like if these good, righteous people rejected us, then we must not have much worth in God's eyes either. I have not been in prayer with God about my own feelings, although I do still pray for other's needs. Don't know what I'm afraid of, but I am. :-)

Do you think, since 4 months have passed, it would be too late to write a letter to the pastor and let him know why we did not return, and the effect his actions had on our faith? I don't want it to come off as a "You weren't nice to us so we aren't coming back" (we're moving soon anyhow and would have had to leave the church), but since they always stress trying to bring new people to the church, maybe our experience could help them to see how to KEEP those new people.

Thank you for listening.

TheOtherJanis
Sep 6th 2008, 05:02 PM
I have experienced similar neglect in my past church experience - and YES, it is so painful and NOT right. The confusing part is when you feel their ARE sincere believers there, they are "friendly" when approached, but they will not approach you or go out of their way to welcome you and include you, much less comfort and really "love on you" as the phrase goes in my current church - which truly is a loving, nurturing church. They are out there. God knows your hurt and your need and WILL lead you to a Christian fellowship of believers that will love you as true family. Simply ask Him where it is, and expect to find it.

Love to you, Jan

ConqueredbyLove
Sep 6th 2008, 10:28 PM
Thank you both for the replies. This has not only shaken my faith in the church, but my faith in God as well. I am having a hard time not taking this personally - so many of these people were very wonderful and caring and, I believe, true Christians. Yet if no one wanted to "pull us closer" or missed us when we were gone, then what does that say about our worth in their eyes? It makes me feel like if these good, righteous people rejected us, then we must not have much worth in God's eyes either. I have not been in prayer with God about my own feelings, although I do still pray for other's needs. Don't know what I'm afraid of, but I am. :-)

Do you think, since 4 months have passed, it would be too late to write a letter to the pastor and let him know why we did not return, and the effect his actions had on our faith? I don't want it to come off as a "You weren't nice to us so we aren't coming back" (we're moving soon anyhow and would have had to leave the church), but since they always stress trying to bring new people to the church, maybe our experience could help them to see how to KEEP those new people.

Thank you for listening.

You dear, precious soul...

Dawn, my heart so grieves as I read this. I am greatly saddened that you have experienced this from Christians who are supposed to represent Christ to you...they certainly have not.

I grieve for any Christian that has to wrestle with such calleousness of hearts as has been displayed to you. These are not God's ways! As a matter of fact, I think, what you have related, is a primary tool of Satan to attempt to get us to doubt God and, eventually walk away from Him.

The fact that you have been abused and then treated so calleously by that other church, also makes me think God must have great, great plans down the road for you, dear, one. For, He can greatly use those who have to go through such heart-wrenching experiences.

That is probably not what you want to hear now and I understand.

I understand, also, your feeling distant from the Lord. For, when others treat us as trash, so to speak, it can be a long, hard road to climb to begin to believe that we are valuable in God's eyes.

For, I know. I have been there. My faith totally failed about 10 years ago following years and years of abuse and then, on top of everything else, spiritual abuse and the experiencing of calleous, cold, cruel hearts from those that call themselves Christians.

I sooo long that you will not have to go through the fight I had to go through for so long to get my trust back in the Lord.

So, may I urge you, with all of my heart, please, please start sharing with Jesus your hurt...Please! Because, if you do not start sharing with Him your hurt and get back into the Word, preferably the Gospels, the enemy will do all He can to put more and more doubt in your mind.

I went through pure hell for years while fighting back and I know others that have completely walked away from the Lord and never returned after experiencing such demeaning things from calleous people.

You, (((Dawn))) are sooo valuable to Jesus! You are His special treasure! Oh, that I could shout it from the rooftop to you. The most important thing is to establish a trusting relationship with Him and that takes getting to know Him, ever more deeply.

I do so hope and pray you see this message. Oh, that I could hug you and take away the hurt :cry:

Take it all before Jesus, Dawn. Share with Him, listen to Him, cry with Him. Remember He is despised and rejected by men. A man of sorrows and acquainted with grief. He has been there, He knows, He loves...(((you)))

Conqueredbylove
btw...I earned my name by facing the same types of battles :hug:

Literalist-Luke
Sep 7th 2008, 01:01 AM
Dawn, I am absolutely sick after reading your story. The way you and your fiance have been treated is absolutely despicable. The behavior you describe from this "church" sounds as if they have no clue about the true unconditional love of God. It sounds like they're too busy playing the game of "Church".

I am deeply angered for you. Jesus reached out to people who were coming out of sinful lives, even to the point that the Pharisees were offended that He was hanging around with "sinners". So now this "church" has adopted precisely the same behavior as the Pharisees.

I can promise you this - as hurt and angry as you rightfully are about this, it's nothing compared to what will happen when these people have to stand before God someday. I can assure you that your anger over this is only a drop in the bucket compared to what God is feeling on your behalf. Not only have they refused to minister to one of His own, but even worse, they have made God Himself look bad. They'll have plenty to answer for when the time comes. (I seriously question if most of them are even really Christians - how could a true sinner-saved-by-grace do such a shabby job of mirroring it to somebody else who is in such need of it?!)

Anyway, please don't let this come between you and God. That sort of thing is exactly why Jesus was so angry with the Pharisees, because they came between God and His people. Don't allow yourself to become a victim of the same thing. God loves you and accepts you unconditionally and wants to be a part of your life so He can bless you and give you an abundant life. There is a church somewhere around you that will allow themselves to be used to bring that blessing into your life. It's just a matter of finding it.

Don't give you - keep searching, the right church is there somewhere.

Sold Out
Sep 7th 2008, 10:54 PM
Do you think, since 4 months have passed, it would be too late to write a letter to the pastor and let him know why we did not return, and the effect his actions had on our faith? I don't want it to come off as a "You weren't nice to us so we aren't coming back" (we're moving soon anyhow and would have had to leave the church), but since they always stress trying to bring new people to the church, maybe our experience could help them to see how to KEEP those new people.

Thank you for listening.

When we finally decided to move our membership, I emailed the pastor and let him know we were leaving, but did not divulge any details. We did not want to drag anyone's name thru the mud, since that is not Christlike. He pretty much knew why we left, and wished us all the best. He did appreciate us letting him know sort of why we left so that he was not left wondering. Although, if you feel compelled to explain why (without naming names) I would encourage you to do it, for the reason you stated.

This is why we have to be so careful not to put our faith and hope in people...they will ALWAYS let us down. We have to have an unshakeable grounded faith in Christ that will weather all these types of storms. God may use this experience so that you and your husband can help someone else down the line that may experience the same thing.

mrsparks
Sep 8th 2008, 05:13 PM
Dawn, I'm so sorry for what you have been through. I'm very sorry about your father. Many of us have been hurt or offended by those in the church. Please know that the rejection you experienced is not of God. Those people are responsible for their actions. God loves you very much. You are worth so much to Christ that He died just for you. You mentioned you are moving. I hope wherever you move, you find a warm loving church family.

Emily
Sep 18th 2008, 11:18 PM
Seems like this church is as cold and uncaring as their pastor. Perhaps you are better off without these people. My thought is, if they really cared, they would make an effort to get in contact with you, particularly after such a tragedy. I wouldn't waste a single tear on any of them if I were in your shoes. RE: the letter, you should write the letter if you think it will make you feel better. It will at least be cathartic to get it out and tell the pastor how you feel. His response to your dad's passing was extremely calloused, and because of that I seriously doubt your letter will bring any kind of conviction.

My dad passed away in May as well, also of cancer. I loved my dad very much and every day is like a new heartbreak. I don't know how to move on without him in the world. Very heartfelt condolences to you Dawn.

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