Are we honest about...

[cdo]

or should I say 'with' our own self ? I'm not talking about us stumbling in falling short with God. Even though it's still sin. Lately, I've been telling some 'white lies.' I know it's wrong !! I'm not going to give excuses for why. I know when I do wrong, God knows my heart and I do too but, not as well as He does. I feel as though I have to......at times to protect myself.There's times 'things cross my mind' and I don't want to accept it. So, here I am lying to myself!!!

So if anyone would mind sharing, thanks,Darlene:hug:

[dispen4ever]

1 John 1:9.

I go there fairly often.

;)

[cdo]

Thanks desp4ever,
For your help :)

[ServantofTruth]

I was taking a look at Romans chapter 12 yesterday. I hope it helps. God bless, SofTy.

[dljc]

Romans chapter 6 is also a good place to go. We are either His slave or a slave to sin. But not both, we can't serve two masters.

[Oregongrown]

I know it's wrong as soon as it's out of my mouth. I am guilty of doing it when I feel someone is invading my privacy, none of their business. That doesn't make lying wrong. For example. Someone asked me if I'd checked on my SSI and I told them yes, when I hadn't. But I didn't want them riding me about it. I look at these things in a "worldly" way though and jump to the conclusion they are just nosey. Maybe a little they are, but, I also know how these people love me and worry about me. And they are not born-again. That is also a great concern because although they strive to earn heaven by good deeds, they are still "of" this world:( God put me here for a reason and it is not to tell even white-lies so I am convicted by the Holy Spirit. We are not perfect sis, but I know that both of us are always thinking of Him. I know you and i beat ourselves up for not being perfect. He never does though. You are in His capable hands, we both are. We just need to keep moving forward as much as we can muster. Strive for the Gold:) Love you sis, denise:hug:





or should I say 'with' our own self ? I'm not talking about us stumbling in falling short with God. Even though it's still sin. Lately, I've been telling some 'white lies.' I know it's wrong !! I'm not going to give excuses for why. I know when I do wrong, God knows my heart and I do too but, not as well as He does. I feel as though I have to......at times to protect myself.There's times 'things cross my mind' and I don't want to accept it. So, here I am lying to myself!!!

So if anyone would mind sharing, thanks,Darlene:hug:

[stillforgiven]

or should I say 'with' our own self ? I'm not talking about us stumbling in falling short with God. Even though it's still sin. Lately, I've been telling some 'white lies.' I know it's wrong !! I'm not going to give excuses for why. I know when I do wrong, God knows my heart and I do too but, not as well as He does. I feel as though I have to......at times to protect myself.There's times 'things cross my mind' and I don't want to accept it. So, here I am lying to myself!!!

So if anyone would mind sharing, thanks,Darlene:hug:




You're def not the only one who lies to themselves, or tries to lie to God. I think this is a basic human thing to do that we'll fight until the day we die or fly.

[cdo]

Thanks yall....
Yes, by all means I'm not perfect.And I know my heart and how I feel toward my Lord.I just don't know if I should come out and confront'those'cause I wouldn't want to hurt their feelings.But, even so I don't want to go against God. But, we have all fallen short of the Glory of God......Thank God for forgiveness :):):)
Thanks to you "stillforgiven" & "Oregongrown":hug::hug:

[Revolvr]

I’ll share some observations about white lies.

One tells a white lie for basically one of two reasons. The first is to protect someone else’s feelings. The second and more important white lie is the one we tell when we want to tweak someone else’s opinion of ourselves. This is the most common and most problematic.

For example, you’re a little late for work and you blame it on traffic, instead of telling the truth that you hit the snooze button a few times too many.

Think about why you would say this, or say other little lies. Is it because you want to come across as performing better than you did? Are you concerned about the judgment of others?

If so I’ve got good news and bad news. The good news is that it doesn’t matter what other’s think of you. You have one judge in life, one judge only. And that is Jesus. When Jesus said “the truth shall set you free”, one of the things you are free from is the judgment of others. It just doesn’t matter.

The bad news is that you cannot lie to Jesus. He knows how many times you hit the snooze button. But that’s not really bad news is it? Personally I found it to be quite liberating to know the only judge I have is Jesus. I just don’t worry so much any more about what others think. Instead I do my best to be true to Jesus, true to scripture, true to the word of God and what God expects of me. I am certainly not perfect but I tend to own up to my failings more than I did before I became a true Christian.

Every day we are pulled away from living a spiritual life by the needs and wants of our flesh and the world around us. Every day we must spend time with God to bring the spiritual back into the forefront of our lives. I have found that telling of a little white lie is a useful barometer for how well in touch I am with the Holy Spirit. Sometimes my fleshy side slips in surreptitiously. If I catch myself telling one of these lies I quickly review what happened, ask myself why I said it, ask forgiveness, and spend time in prayer to get back on track.

[cdo]

I was taking a look at Romans chapter 12 yesterday. I hope it helps. God bless, SofTy.
Thank you softy:hug:I was just wondering about 'the white lies' and my reason why and maybe anyone else's reason if they do.But I.ve been dealing with some depression and I just didn't want to talk about it at that time.Next thing I was doing was lying to make up excuses.I just don't want folks to think I'm a big ole liar now.I'm not.
I'll check out Romans 12.....Thanks,Darlene

[cdo]

I’ll share some observations about white lies.

One tells a white lie for basically one of two reasons. The first is to protect someone else’s feelings. The second and more important white lie is the one we tell when we want to tweak someone else’s opinion of ourselves. This is the most common and most problematic.
Good observation Rev...I fit the 1st one. I'm just me and I mess~up at times.

For example, you’re a little late for work and you blame it on traffic, instead of telling the truth that you hit the snooze button a few times too many.

Think about why you would say this, or say other little lies. Is it because you want to come across as performing better than you did? Are you concerned about the judgment of others?
Well, I'm aware how there is so many Christians in this world that likes to make judgement.I'm not concerned about others judging me...they can think what they want to:lol: However, I didn't want to hurt these people's feelings and I didn't know how to handle it.So a lie came out of my mouth and I've repented, so now I just need to explain to them and make it right.God will take car of the rest !!!

If so I’ve got good news and bad news. The good news is that it doesn’t matter what other’s think of you. You have one judge in life, one judge only. And that is Jesus. When Jesus said “the truth shall set you free”, one of the things you are free from is the judgment of others. It just doesn’t matter.
:ppYou got that Right :pp
The bad news is that you cannot lie to Jesus. He knows how many times you hit the snooze button. But that’s not really bad news is it? Personally I found it to be quite liberating to know the only judge I have is Jesus. I just don’t worry so much any more about what others think. Instead I do my best to be true to Jesus, true to scripture, true to the word of God and what God expects of me. I am certainly not perfect but I tend to own up to my failings more than I did before I became a true Christian.
Yes, you are so right....No, we all fall short of God's Glory.We learn as we grow !!!

Every day we are pulled away from living a spiritual life by the needs and wants of our flesh and the world around us. Every day we must spend time with God to bring the spiritual back into the forefront of our lives. I have found that telling of a little white lie is a useful barometer for how well in touch I am with the Holy Spirit. Sometimes my fleshy side slips in surreptitiously. If I catch myself telling one of these lies I quickly review what happened, ask myself why I said it, ask forgiveness, and spend time in prayer to get back on track.
Thanks so much for sharing this with me.Yes, when we get into this kind of situation.Thank God for His Holy Spirit to make us aware of it.:hug:,Darlene

[Ashley274]

Sometimes people don't make it easy for you to not answer something..I have gotten to the point I talk like a politician and never give an answer to avoid as many white lies as I can ;)

[cdo]

Romans chapter 6 is also a good place to go. We are either His slave or a slave to sin. But not both, we can't serve two masters.
Thanks for the scripture chapter.No, your right we can't serve two masters but, We can repent when we make mistakes and God forgives us.So I'm not serving but, One Mighty God!!!:),Darlene

[cdo]

Thanks Ashley:hug:
Maybe I should give that a try or continue to change the subject :rofl:No, I'm going to make it right.I've suffered more by telling the 'white lie' than if I had just said something else like the truth.Oh well "no more crying over spilt milk":hmm:,Darlene

[Ashley274]

:rofl::lol: I rather like the changing subjects or politican avoidance method....For example....dude asks me my name...I tell him the story of how my mom almost named me Pamala then Patricia but my aunt pointed out my last name would have conflicted (then I lol all cute) and jump to another subject....pssst...mom didn't name me either name but dude doesn't know...he never got an answer...

You can't undo lies and sin...just tell Jesus you are sorry and sin no more....

If people asked me if I was depressed I would just say yeah I am having a bad day.....

I will lie on somethings...like an old dude needs a ride to the doctor this week...he is almost 90...you know how old people ask you "will this be an impostion?" What can I say..yes its a time killer and a half tank of gas...or do the ole nooo not at all....kinda thing.....:hug:



Thanks Ashley:hug:
Maybe I should give that a try or continue to change the subject :rofl:No, I'm going to make it right.I've suffered more by telling the 'white lie' than if I had just said something else like the truth.Oh well "no more crying over spilt milk":hmm:,Darlene

[cdo]

:rofl::lol: I rather like the changing subjects or politican avoidance method....For example....dude asks me my name...I tell him the story of how my mom almost named me Pamala then Patricia but my aunt pointed out my last name would have conflicted (then I lol all cute) and jump to another subject....pssst...mom didn't name me either name but dude doesn't know...he never got an answer...

You can't undo lies and sin...just tell Jesus you are sorry and sin no more....

If people asked me if I was depressed I would just say yeah I am having a bad day.....

I will lie on somethings...like an old dude needs a ride to the doctor this week...he is almost 90...you know how old people ask you "will this be an impostion?" What can I say..yes its a time killer and a half tank of gas...or do the ole nooo not at all....kinda thing.....:hug:
Ashley,I tell you what...You are sooooo :lol::rofl: funny.I'm glad you told me about the ole man:lol::lol:
That's what I think.... I'm just gonna say~~I'm depressed and say yes I'm having a bad day and God knows it and He's working on it
Love your sense of humor~ I needed to lol real loud.:hug:,Darlene

[Ashley274]

I pretty much live my life like that on a ...balance beam :D I think kindness is far more important than a white lie.....and you have to be kind to you too....People have a real hard time when you say I would rather not talk about it...Like at the beach I talk to a girl a lot ...we are beach friends.....I always ask her a question and qualify it with...or would you rather not say..... because.....I can tell she has issues.....I don't wanna corner her ...most people don't do that.....I have a lot of true and funny examples of things but its always best to blow it off or answer it with a gentle truth...like the I AM BUMMED TODAY Yes but it will pass thanks for asking..THEN pop in a FAST topic change :hug:

[cdo]

Ashley~~~
Great way to handle those tough situations.'Do the best I can'
People's feelings mean alot to me.But, in the mean time........and after....I will Praise the Lord with all my soul~Glory to our God and His goodness !!! Blessings, your sis in Christ,:hug: Darlene

[Oregongrown]

I was reading your post and others replies and this of course came to me. It is one of the most comforting reads for me, especially since it came from Paul. This just hits home and there was a time it made no sense at all. I thought Paul had to be some escapee from the cuckoos nest. But after I was born-again, it all started to make sense:) Only Spirit can relate to Spirit:) Praise Jesus for ALL things!! Love you sis, denise :hug:

Law Cannot Save from Sin
Romans 7:13-25
13 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/cgi-bin/tools/printer-friendly.pl?book=Rom&chapter=7&translation=nkjvp#) Has then what is good become death to me? Certainly not! But sin, that it might appear sin, was producing death in me through what is good, so that sin through the commandment might become exceedingly sinful. 14 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/cgi-bin/tools/printer-friendly.pl?book=Rom&chapter=7&translation=nkjvp#) For we know that the law is spiritual, but I am carnal, sold under sin. 15 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/cgi-bin/tools/printer-friendly.pl?book=Rom&chapter=7&translation=nkjvp#) For what I am doing, I do not understand. For what I will to do, that I do not practice; but what I hate, that I do. 16 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/cgi-bin/tools/printer-friendly.pl?book=Rom&chapter=7&translation=nkjvp#) If, then, I do what I will not to do, I agree with the law that it is good. 17 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/cgi-bin/tools/printer-friendly.pl?book=Rom&chapter=7&translation=nkjvp#) But now, it is no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells in me. 18 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/cgi-bin/tools/printer-friendly.pl?book=Rom&chapter=7&translation=nkjvp#) For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh) nothing good dwells; for to will is present with me, but how to perform what is good I do not find. 19 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/cgi-bin/tools/printer-friendly.pl?book=Rom&chapter=7&translation=nkjvp#) For the good that I will to do, I do not do; but the evil I will not to do, that I practice. 20 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/cgi-bin/tools/printer-friendly.pl?book=Rom&chapter=7&translation=nkjvp#) Now if I do what I will not to do, it is no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells in me.
21 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/cgi-bin/tools/printer-friendly.pl?book=Rom&chapter=7&translation=nkjvp#) I find then a law, that evil is present with me, the one who wills to do good. 22 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/cgi-bin/tools/printer-friendly.pl?book=Rom&chapter=7&translation=nkjvp#) For I delight in the law of God according to the inward man. 23 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/cgi-bin/tools/printer-friendly.pl?book=Rom&chapter=7&translation=nkjvp#) But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members. 24 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/cgi-bin/tools/printer-friendly.pl?book=Rom&chapter=7&translation=nkjvp#) O wretched man that I am! Who will deliver me from this body of death? 25 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/cgi-bin/tools/printer-friendly.pl?book=Rom&chapter=7&translation=nkjvp#) I thank God--through Jesus Christ our Lord!
So then, with the mind I myself serve the law of God, but with the flesh the law of sin.R

I so love verse 21, it is absolutely the opposite that the "world" choses to believe. And that is to do good things and we are gonna get some sort of reward, some even think theres a heaven they get to go to if their nice people!! But the "world" believes we, under our own power can do good. That is the evil ones lie!! There is no good in us. That doesn't take a brain scientist to translate, there is NO good in us. Only God through us can accomplish anything good or worthwhile. More of God, less of me oh Lord, my most prayed prayer. Oh God, may I die to self more each day:)

[cdo]

Hey Denise, I also read last night in Romans 6 and further...The same as what Paul was teaching on.This is probably the reason I have felt better today.Amen :ppyour sista in Christ,Darlene :hug:

[ServantofTruth]

Hi, can i add from my second chapter of today's personal study - 1 Samuel 10:16. When Saul's uncle asked what Samuel said to him, he reveals that Samuel told them both (Saul & the servant) that his father's donkeys had been found. But it then says ...but did not mention anything that Samuel said about kingship.

We obviously have to read the context of the whole of 1 Samuel chapter 10, because Samuel told Saul to send his servant on, so i can make known to you the word of God. This suggests to me that God had a private message through his appointed prophet, that was not for the ears of all men.

But that's the thing with serious study. :) We have to work hard, on many passages to get an all over view. I hope this helps even 1% in your looking at lying and honesty. God bless, SofTy.

[cdo]

Hi, can i add from my second chapter of today's personal study - 1 Samuel 10:16. When Saul's uncle asked what Samuel said to him, he reveals that Samuel told them both (Saul & the servant) that his father's donkeys had been found. But it then says ...but did not mention anything that Samuel said about kingship.
Thanks for this scripture~~I agree~he didn't tell him the whole part only what all was said....Am I understanding this correctly???

We obviously have to read the context of the whole of 1 Samuel chapter 10, because Samuel told Saul to send his servant on, so i can make known to you the word of God. This suggests to me that God had a private message through his appointed prophet, that was not for the ears of all men.

But that's the thing with serious study. :) We have to work hard, on many passages to get an all over view. I hope this helps even 1% in your looking at lying and honesty. God bless, SofTy.
This has and is helping me to understand~~I remember this passage but, I will go and refresh my mind.:)


Softy,I've thought alot about what I did and how I handled the situation of the"white lies"and I Have so far come to the conclusion to let it go with those 'I lied to~~and not to say anything to them because I really don't want to hurt their feeling~like not trusting them enough to be honest with them. It breaks my heart to think something like this can cause so much hurt and possibly cause a tension between us.
However,I glad I posted 'this' For my need :ppbut, also for those who wish to share their experience in this topic.:)
You are so kind,again thanks for your comforting words and encouragement:hug:,in Christ your sis,Darlene

[Lady Ashanti]

Thanks yall....
Yes, by all means I'm not perfect.And I know my heart and how I feel toward my Lord.I just don't know if I should come out and confront'those'cause I wouldn't want to hurt their feelings.But, even so I don't want to go against God. But, we have all fallen short of the Glory of God......Thank God for forgiveness :):):)
Thanks to you "stillforgiven" & "Oregongrown":hug::hug:

Sis, you know we get all upset when we do wrong, however we should thank the Lord for Holy Ghost conviction. I feel sorry for people who do not feel badly about the things they do...:o!!!

One thing I have found is to guard my heart, put a sentry on my mouth, and repent of any thoughts before they take root. We have to purpsoe to be honest NO MATTER WHAT, and when we fail, repent and go back and tell the truth. That is what I do...no matter the sin, get it right with God, and the person...after a while the enemy will get tired of God getting the glory out of your temptations...:rofl:I thank Go dfor every opportunity to become more like Him, and lose the works of my flesh.

You know Sis, often when we see our flaws, shortcomings, sins we thibnk we are so far from God, however I heard a preacher say one that is when we are closer because as we get closer to the "Light", the better we see...Hallelujah!!! I have found the Lord reveals what He is willing to deliver.

What amazes me is how some just expect that you will lie. Supervisors at work who just tell you to lie, what gives them the right to jeiopardize my walk with Christ??? I didn't get a promotion because I told the interviewer that I would not lie for them... This world is a trip...

[cdo]

Sis, you know we get all upset when we do wrong, however we should thank the Lord for Holy Ghost conviction. I feel sorry for people who do not feel badly about the things they do...:o!!!
Yes,So true...I'm grateful The Holy Spirit convicts me when I do wrong.And then I :B myself up til I make it right.

One thing I have found is to guard my heart, put a sentry on my mouth, and repent of any thoughts before they take root. We have to purpsoe to be honest NO MATTER WHAT, and when we fail, repent and go back and tell the truth. That is what I do...no matter the sin, get it right with God, and the person...after a while the enemy will get tired of God getting the glory out of your temptations...:rofl:I thank Go dfor every opportunity to become more like Him, and lose the works of my flesh.

Amen to that,sis......I've got to make it right,but I don't want to make hurtful.
You know Sis, often when we see our flaws, shortcomings, sins we thibnk we are so far from God, however I heard a preacher say one that is when we are closer because as we get closer to the "Light", the better we see...Hallelujah!!! I have found the Lord reveals what He is willing to deliver.

What amazes me is how some just expect that you will lie. Supervisors at work who just tell you to lie, what gives them the right to jeiopardize my walk with Christ??? I didn't get a promotion because I told the interviewer that I would not lie for them... This world is a trip...
That is so good to hear...we get closer to the Light :pp:pp
I know after I posted and had some coments....Oh my,I thought these folks are going to think I'm terrible for 'it' but,I'm ok with it.....God is my only judge,Amen:)In Christ,Darlene:hug: