Pregnant With #4, Looming C-Section

[threejane]

Hi there, I'm new here but this seems to be *the* place to get encouragement from other women...

Have any of you had multiple C-sections? This will be my 4th (in Feb) and for some reason, I'm really nervous about this one. My last one (in 2005) wasn't all that big of a deal, I remember on the 2nd day in the hospital being bored out of my mind and in no pain and wanting to go HOME.

I'm just worried about this one, as far as the things that can go wrong and whether or not I might actually *die* from it (rare, but it happens). I'm thinking because I'm a bit older (37) and have people depending on me (10, 5, 3 and of course, hubby!) is what's making me nervous and hinky.

That and we just left our old church for a new, bigger one and we don't really know anyone. I have some friends from the old place to lean on, but I'm feeling a little rudderless right now, know what I mean?

Okay, if you made it this far, you deserve a medal. Has anyone out there had 3+ c-sections and survived to tell the tale? (tasteless, I know...)

[cnw]

why are you having a c sect? Are you cut vertical? Have you talked about a v-bac? I am 2 c's, 4 vbacs, 1 c and a homebirth in that order. Many many women I know are having vbacs. I understand why you would be scared. They are the pits.

[cnw]

oh welcome to the board.

[threejane]

I was told pretty much that after three c-sections, the chance of a VBAC is virtually nil (at least in this area, there are only two hospitals and both are 1/2 hour away).

The first section was an emergency (prolapsed cord), the 2nd was a doc who wasn't very interested in VBACs, and the third (and now fourth) are pretty much against VBACs at all. The pendulum seems to be swinging back against VBACs - that and I think the docs are usually thinking of malpractice if someone ruptures.

Not vertical, thank God.

Just feeling like this one could end in doom and gloom. Could just be normal 18/19 weeks pregnancy hormones too!

[Soulangel]

Hello threejane, I don't know if this will give you any peace or not but I've had three c sections then i fell pregnant again and it was ectopic, so I had to have surgery. I was 14 weeks pregnant and was told if anything went wrong they would have to give me a c section as key hole surgery wouldn't be possible but they wouldn't know until I was in having the surgery.

As it turned out the scaring from the previous three surgeries was nothing, and I had key hole surgery, all went well. The doctor said the inside of me looked really healthy. My point I'm trying to make to you is that c sections done these days which are not the old vertical ones are obviously quite good. My children were born the first two four years apart and he next one only 22 months later. The ectopic pregnancy was eight years later.

Lean on the Lord, He will indeed have your answers, I do know a lady who had four girls the old vertical way thirty years ago, but they told her she couldn't have any more after four, and she was perfectly healthy.

Praying for your peace of mind in Jesus mighty name Soulangel

[cnw]

well it is so sad that the baby business is just that...a business and c-sects are the boom of birthing business and big bucks for a very easy surgery. Sadly it is not true that it is mandatory.
sorry for that.

[stillforgiven]

C-sections aren't only about the insurance or patient's money. Some of it is about being sued if they do what the mother wants, to VBAC, and then something goes wrong, and they are sued for malpractice. I know of many Gyn's and GP's who are totally out of the OB practice due to such issues and the outrageously high premiums for malpractice insurance for those in Obstetrics.


My own mother had an accidental VBAC when she went into preterm labor, and it ruptured her uterus. She was to have a planned c-section a few weeks later, and it had nothing to do with the doctor wanting to make a few extra bucks on the surgery. It had to do with keeping my mother and my sister safe.

[Soulangel]

well it is so sad that the baby business is just that...a business and c-sects are the boom of birthing business and big bucks for a very easy surgery. Sadly it is not true that it is mandatory.
sorry for that.
Dear CNW, with the greatest respect as I know from reading your posts throughout the board that you are in the midwifery profession, the OP was a lovely lady asking for encouragement and upliftment and support to come through her term. Your latest response after my post does not seem to be supportive of her and I sense it is an attack of my post simply because I did not detail why I had to have the c sections. I chose not to detail my medical reasons because I'm on this board to uplift and encourage the OP, not outline my medical history.

You may respond and say you don't mean any offence, however sister in Christ I would ask you to really consider why you wrote this post. This sister of ours does not have a choice, she has outlined this twice, we need to be very careful and very supportive of each other, and not quoting statistical say so from the medical community which comes and goes on a whim at any given season - just like breast feeding etc etc.

We need soft hearts, and God's insight to uphold and nurture each other, not tear each other down. I'm praying you can understand what I am saying and can see that God is the one who is in control of every situation in every life, and we need to be His example of ministering to each other. God bless you dear sister, may His love hold you and complete you, Soulangel:pray::hug::hug:

[threejane]

I figure that a c-section is pretty much mandatory for me, unless I decided to have an unassisted homebirth, and hubby is dead set against both that and a birthing center. The birthing center here only allows VBAC after one c-section, not three!

[Soulangel]

I found this link which gives you an explanation of everything re the choices you have for and against a vbac in your particular circumstances, hope this helps dear lady.
www.webmd.com/baby/tc/vaginal-birth-after-cesarean-vbac-is-vbac-right-for-you

You might have to copy and paste it into your web browser but it will work for you, it explains how you would have to go through a trial of labour, and still the doctors can say no you would have to have a c section, how you have to be living in an area where there is a hospital that can do a c section within half an hour, it lists what the requirements are in your particular circumstances that you would have to meet to have a vbac, so you now you would now if you meet them or not and and so very much more.

The one thing I would suggest however is that daily you would sit quietly and seek His will. That is the only way you will truly have peace, no matter what comes, no matter how you deliver and no matter the outcome. I remember when I had my first, I was talking to another mother to be and she was so adamant that she was having a natural birth, no drugs, no anything, and I said "I'm walking in the door going epidural thanks!":lol: I was just having fun because I knew I didn't know what was likely to happen having read that every mother makes plans and none of their plans came to fruition. Well this lady was mortified that I could say such a thing!

She ended up going into labour and the poor dear had to have a forced c section where they had to pull the baby back up out her uterus because she was to tiny to deliver and she had so many problems afterwards it wasn't funny, and me, well my little darlin' was in such a hurry, he decided to rush on in four weeks, feet first, so I had an emergency c section because they won't let you deliver your first feet first because you haven't been stretched.

I learnt that God is in control, total control, everything goes according to His plan only. Your baby and you will come through this just beautifully, just like your previous three honey. Think back to them, and think of how God had all your days planned before you were even born, how he knows every hair on your head and every thought. Cast your anxieties on Him and He will take care of you every step of the way.

God bless you with his love and strength, uphold you with His wisdom and may you feel His presence guiding you throughout this journey, Amen
Soulangel

[cnw]

Dear CNW, with the greatest respect as I know from reading your posts throughout the board that you are in the midwifery profession, the OP was a lovely lady asking for encouragement and upliftment and support to come through her term. Your latest response after my post does not seem to be supportive of her and I sense it is an attack of my post simply because I did not detail why I had to have the c sections. I chose not to detail my medical reasons because I'm on this board to uplift and encourage the OP, not outline my medical history.

You may respond and say you don't mean any offence, however sister in Christ I would ask you to really consider why you wrote this post. This sister of ours does not have a choice, she has outlined this twice, we need to be very careful and very supportive of each other, and not quoting statistical say so from the medical community which comes and goes on a whim at any given season - just like breast feeding etc etc.

We need soft hearts, and God's insight to uphold and nurture each other, not tear each other down. I'm praying you can understand what I am saying and can see that God is the one who is in control of every situation in every life, and we need to be His example of ministering to each other. God bless you dear sister, may His love hold you and complete you, Soulangel:pray::hug::hug:


just for the record I never read your post. I am not going to appologize to you because it wasn't about you. I am sorry you had problems with birth too. Many of us are part of a morbid statistic that has spiritual warfare written all over it. There is not one mention of someone dying from birth in the Bible. I wonder about this often.
I have been on both sides of the medical field and have seen that as a whole there are more problems with c-sections and the US is the leading c-section problem due to so said rates of whatever. My frusteration is for the OP. My frusteration is with the ungodliness of our medical field and the casualness we have as believers or just women to sit back and say "oh well, the doctor must be right." "All the drugs and forced first c-sections must be ok." The problem with these philosophies is that women who believe this is wrong end up going against what they believe.
I hear this womans cry because so many are going through the same feelings and they are unwarrented. The OP was wronged. Period!!
I do not speak without authority on the issue of birthing. I am not ignorant about the medical reasoning behind forced c-sections, but when I tell the real issue most people don't believe it because we are so willing to trust the medical field in the US. I am greatful for surgery, and doctors when it is warrented. But birthing is a business.
I asked my questions to help find a good outcome, but if the op's husband does not stand on those options than she is without any more unless God intervenes.
It is against the law for a hospital to force anyone to have a surgery, but we are to afraid to say no and stand up for that. A hospital has to help you. I am sorry Threejane that you have to go through this again, but the blessing is in your state your insurance will cover it. There are some states that are not covering c-sections after the 3rd one.

[Soulangel]

There is not one mention of someone dying from birth in the Bible. I wonder about this often.

Genesis 35:16-18

16 Then they moved on from Bethel. While they were still some distance from Ephrath, Rachel began to give birth and had great difficulty. 17 And as she was having great difficulty in childbirth, the midwife said to her, "Don't be afraid, for you have another son." 18 As she breathed her last—for she was dying—she named her son Ben-Oni. [h] But his father named him Benjamin.

I pray that the Lord uses this to help you in your understanding dear sister for what ever reason He needs. God bless you.:pray:

[threejane]

I would respectfully ask that my request for support not turn into a fight over whether C-sections are medically necessary or not. At this point, I really do *not* have a choice...from either the medical community or my husband.

[SavedByGrace]

I'm ignorant on this subject Jane, but my thoughts and prayers are with you.

[Soulangel]

Dear Jane, My sincere apologies, I've tried to keep the focus on support for you and have not managed to do that. My love and prayers will be with you continually and I will unsubscribe from this thread in the hope that this will help. God bless you with your journey dear sister in Christ, again, my sincere apologies Soulangel

[PrayerInMemphis]

if it makes you feel any better, i am giving birth 2 wks from today & i am terrified as well! all i can tell you is to be prayerful & ask the Lord to take away your anxiety...i keep trying to remind myself that He did not give us a spirit of fear but of power, love & sound mind. (tim 1:7)

and on another note, i will be giving birth by cesaran as well but it is purely elective. i never could get my heart or head on board with the idea of a vaginal & believe me, i spent alot of time praying over it!!

God bless you & your new baby!~

[cnw]

I posted a thanks for the verse, I knew that about rachael dying with benjamin but forgot. and only with her second. but it disappeared.

[Angelkw]

My very best friend has had three c-sections and had no complications from it other than some minor scarring. She is planning her fourth, and expects to be told it will be another c-section. She isn't worried in the least.

I am praying that the birth of your next little one goes smoothly and wish you all the joy in the world.

Angelkw

[sunsetssplendor]

Hi there, I'm new here but this seems to be *the* place to get encouragement from other women...

Have any of you had multiple C-sections? This will be my 4th (in Feb) and for some reason, I'm really nervous about this one. My last one (in 2005) wasn't all that big of a deal, I remember on the 2nd day in the hospital being bored out of my mind and in no pain and wanting to go HOME.

I'm just worried about this one, as far as the things that can go wrong and whether or not I might actually *die* from it (rare, but it happens). I'm thinking because I'm a bit older (37) and have people depending on me (10, 5, 3 and of course, hubby!) is what's making me nervous and hinky.

That and we just left our old church for a new, bigger one and we don't really know anyone. I have some friends from the old place to lean on, but I'm feeling a little rudderless right now, know what I mean?

Okay, if you made it this far, you deserve a medal. Has anyone out there had 3+ c-sections and survived to tell the tale? (tasteless, I know...)

I've had 3. I believe the limit is 3 or 4. The last c-section was the worse. My recovery took over a month. I developed a fever and had to stay in the hospital 4 days b/c they couldn't determine where the infection was. Even when I went home I had chills that seize my body and then the fever. I stayed prayed up b/c I really believe satan was trying to destroy me but I went in the hospital prayed up and when that started happening I called my mom and she and her prayer partner went into intercessory mode. Not to scare you but just telling you My experience. It also took VERY long (procedure) and I finally asked the doctor if everything was okay and she said I had a lot of scar tissue and she was treating it. Just remember c-sections are major surgery. I am so thankful I don't ever have to put my body through that again. God Bless.

P.S. that doom and gloom feeling is from satan. You need to start praying and thanking God for the healthy little one that will soon be born and thank him for keeping you around a VERY long time to care for your children.