Drink Normal Milk or Organic?

[PeterJ]

Do you only drink normal Milk or Organic milk?
Whats the diffents? Normal milk tastes better for me.

[ViolaSnapdragon]

I don't drink dairy milk at all.

[Bethany67]

Organic - it doesn't taste any different to me, but we're going as organic as poss (meat & dairy now, fruit & veg to follow eventually when I find the best source) because of chemicals, and because of my thoughts on stewardship. Don't need the growth hormones, thanks.

I'm actually thinking about giving up milk products completely; I don't eat veal but I'm indirectly supporting the veal trade by having milk and cheese. Cows are impregnated 2-3 months after each birth to keep their milk production going, and the calves are removed from their mothers within 24-48 hours to free up the milk for humans. They're then fed dried skimmed milk with fatteners before early weaning.

The female calves may be kept as breeders themselves, but the male calves are either killed shortly after birth or shipped to Europe for the veal trade. A cow naturally lives for 20-25 years but dairy cows are worn out after 5 years. The more I think about, the more horrific I find the whole industry. It's not that I object to eating animal products in principle, but I find the methods of production really cruel.

Plus I suspect I may be lactose-intolerant. So it's on the agenda for consideration, although I doubt DH will go for it; he's a bit boggle-eyed at all the changes I'm making. I quite like soya milk, but fake cheese is just absolutely vile. If I can find a good fake cheese, I'd be away.

[daughter]

One third of all cows in our country have mastitis, and there are permissable levels of puss (yes, that's right, puss) in the milk you buy. Stats are similar in the US.

Recently I've noticed that adverts are talking about buying "filtered milk" because it's purer, or claiming that their butter is the only stuff in the UK to come from "free range" cows. In other words, the truth is coming out enough that advertisers are trying to put spin on the fact that milk is so dirty it needs to be filtered, and most cows are locked up most of the time.

I don't drink any milk from animals. (Could you tell? :rolleyes: )

[MrAnteater]

One third of all cows in our country have mastitis, and there are permissable levels of puss (yes, that's right, puss) in the milk you buy. Stats are similar in the US.Hate to tell you but ALL processed food has allowable limits for foreign matter. There are specs for bugs and rat hair, for instance. Grains are just as bad.

Regarding organic. Organic = marketing gimmick to justify charging 30-50% (or more) higher prices.

Like P.T. Barnum said "there is one born every minute".

[ViolaSnapdragon]

Regarding organic. Organic = marketing gimmick to justify charging 30-50% (or more) higher prices.


You're very likely correct.

[Richard H]

Regarding organic. Organic = marketing gimmick to justify charging 30-50% (or more) higher prices.


Organic foods are legally regulated for production standards.
No conventional pesticides, artificial fertilizers, additives, added growth hormones, or routine antibiotics. In most countries: also not genetically modified.
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You’re thinking of “natural” which is like arguing the meaning of “is”. :rolleyes:

Richard

BTW: are your ants chocolate covered ones? :rolleyes:

[MrAnteater]

Organic foods are legally regulated for production standards.
No conventional pesticides, artificial fertilizers, additives, added growth hormones, or routine antibiotics. In most countries: also not genetically modified.
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You’re thinking of “natural” which is like arguing the meaning of “is”. :rolleyes:

Richard

BTW: are your ants chocolate covered ones? :rolleyes:

I understand what you are saying but the bottom line is there are no established limits (i.e. parts per million or whatever measure) to actually distinguish between "pesticide" and "no pesticides", for example. It's impossible to have something without a least a trace amount of these chemicals from any commercial farm. There will always be conventional farms within the vicinity and those chemicals do spread around. Without some objective measure, what level of small trace amounts can still be present to call the product "pesticide free"? There is no regulation and it's up to the producer to make the call, hence just about anything can be deemed organic.

I never ate a real chocolate covered ant but I imagine it would be like a Nestle Crunch bar.

[Richard H]

I understand what you are saying but the bottom line is there are no established limits (i.e. parts per million or whatever measure) to actually distinguish between "pesticide" and "no pesticides", for example. It's impossible to have something without a least a trace amount of these chemicals from any commercial farm. There will always be conventional farms within the vicinity and those chemicals do spread around. Without some objective measure, what level of small trace amounts can still be present to call the product "pesticide free"? There is no regulation and it's up to the producer to make the call, hence just about anything can be deemed organic.

I never ate a real chocolate covered ant but I imagine it would be like a Nestle Crunch bar.
Yes. There is nothing "pure" in this world. Residues and traces abound. Still, it's better than having stuff added on purpose.

Nestl* Crunch bar <yum>

[Izdaari]

Other things being equal, I prefer organic foods, including milk. But because of budgetary limits, I often have to compromise, so I voted 'both'.

[Slug1]

Organic milk and since then we've even stopped that and mainly drink Rice Milk. I guess the o milk is used for cooking purposes.

[Whispering Grace]

Milk and I do not get along, therefore I drink neither regular or organic.

[CoffeeCat]

Milk and I don't get along at all, really, especially in large quantities of liquid form... so I've taken to drinking soy milk or rice milk when I actually want a whole glass of something. I prefer the taste, too.

[Ashley274]

I can't afford organic milk I drink just milk and not a lot

[blessedmommyuv3]

Neither---soymilk for our family; I haven't bought dairy milk in years.