View Full Version : Does God love all humanity the same?
Redimido
Oct 9th 2008, 02:13 AM
I heard a preacher a while back say that his love for the lost is almost greater then his love for his church. So what you guys think and why? Does God only have one kind of love Or is his love for his bride different than for the lost?
Richard H
Oct 12th 2008, 05:13 AM
"For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life.
"For God did not send the Son into the world to judge the world, but that the world might be saved through Him.
Joh 3:16,17
But as for your question, I'm reminded of the story of the prodigal son.
Foghorn
Oct 26th 2008, 03:47 AM
I heard a preacher a while back say that his love for the lost is almost greater then his love for his church.Well, some of the lost are of His church.
So what you guys think and why? Does God only have one kind of love Or is his love for his bride different than for the lost?I am not sure what you mean by "one kind of love?" The bride of Christ are Christians (the elect), which all are born spiritually dead (original sin). So...some of the bride are lost (temporary), in this case He loves the regenerated and the lost elect the same, I believe. After all He came to seek and save the lost, did He not?
michaelee
Oct 26th 2008, 11:06 AM
I can remember many things Jesus said; Tempary leave the 99 that are doing fine and then he went to serch for the one lost. Then when he was on the cross he said father forgive them ; They know not what they do. What did Jesus in prayer call out to God and ask? Then he said never the less my will,
but thine will be done, and latter they came and took him away, and he died
for all the sins of mankind ! All are now given opertunity to be saved. Yes it is up to each their own; Yet if we look carefully we see Gods Love for all humanity. God does not agree with sin's but is loving and waiting for them to
see clearly Gods love for them! Another thought crossing my heart : I recently had tired from all the prejedice towards my wife (Mywife: TigerChild
Born an S.Korean.) i have seen so many of prejiduce towards her in the
years as well towards other's. Then came an thought ! (from God.) He created us all in his immage; He never once stated prejeduce of the collors
he created or the sufferings we are born into as innocent babes he knows blinds us into the dark room sort to speak. What is Gods immage ? Our spirit is like wise created the same? So i asked my wife to share with those other's (women.) God says we are all created in his immage ! God decides
by our faith and fruits we produce who is and who wont be at that appointed time. We know by our own fruits we produce as well whom does'nt and God askes us to know these things so we can see whom we may allow God to work through us and they may find their way out the dark room into the brite light which is painfull at first untill their eyes adjust. God warns us to be carefull with those whom cant see and are not of the elect just yet as we could fall faint with those whom are blind but we should not do Gods judgement on them ourselves as their will come an appointed time for God to do this thing. We cannot allow God to use us as
his elect if we judge them out already. Its tough to understand all these things I know . But we the elect cant be so unless we learn what is the elect. (they are ministering Gods love and will for all mankind till the day of Judgement.)
Holy, Holy, Holy, God in three persons blessed trinity:saint: Amen.
Rocking horse
Oct 26th 2008, 12:05 PM
He loves all.....but all do not love Him............
Richard H
Oct 26th 2008, 12:30 PM
The Father loves us all, yet our sin separated us from Him.
The Son loves us all, yet His work was to gather the lost. (seek/bring in)
The Holy Spirit loves us all; His work is to equip the saints to follow Jesus.
Foghorn
Oct 26th 2008, 05:00 PM
He loves all.....but all do not love Him............
Curious, where is this in scripture?
Foghorn
Oct 26th 2008, 05:01 PM
The Father loves us all, yet our sin separated us from Him.
The Son loves us all, yet His work was to gather the lost. (seek/bring in)
The Holy Spirit loves us all; His work is to equip the saints to follow Jesus.
Words of encouragement, God Bless.
Foghorn
Oct 26th 2008, 05:24 PM
I can remember many things Jesus said; Tempary leave the 99 that are doing fine and then he went to serch for the one lost. Then when he was on the cross he said father forgive them ; They know not what they do. What did Jesus in prayer call out to God and ask? Then he said never the less my will,
but thine will be done, and latter they came and took him away, and he died
You confused me to what your meaning is here. You say Jesus said "forgive them they know not what they do", then you say Jesus said "Then he said never the less my will,
but thine will be done", so.........what is the Fathers will here?
for all the sins of mankind ! All are now given opertunity to be saved. Yes it is up to each their own;I think if it was up to man, individually, few if any would be saved. I also believe scripture teaches this, actually, none will (can) be saved on their own.
Yet if we look carefully we see Gods Love for all humanity. God does not agree with sin's but is loving and waiting for them to
see clearly Gods love for them! So, you believe, God overlooks sin in hopes people will see His love and except Him? I disagree, God hates sin, He does not excuse it, or put it aside, He hates it and will Judge it; one day the people who deny the gospel will face the wrath of God.
Another thought crossing my heart : I recently had tired from all the prejedice towards my wife (Mywife: TigerChild
Born an S.Korean.) i have seen so many of prejiduce towards her in the
years as well towards other's. Then came an thought ! (from God.) He created us all in his immage;Amen! We are all created in God's image, I believe when someone judges someone because of their color, they are casting judgement and condeming God's image.
He never once stated prejeduce of the collors
he created or the sufferings we are born into as innocent babes he knows blinds us into the dark room sort to speak.Though we are not born into this world innocent because of original sin, I agree people of all tribes tongues and nations are created in God's image, therefore all are quual.
What is Gods immage ? Adam and eve were created in God's image, they were created in perfect righteousness and holy. Of course, the fall destroyed this image, we are now in enmity with God, under the curse, when we are born into this world up until salvation.
Our spirit is like wise created the same? When we are born into this world, we are born spiritually dead, with no desire for God, until we are given a new heart by the Holy Spirit.
God warns us to be carefull with those whom cant see and are not of the elect just yet "Just yet" What do you mean?
as we could fall faint with those whom are blind but we should not do Gods judgement on them ourselves as their will come an appointed time for God to do this thing. We cannot allow God to use us as
his elect if we judge them out already.It is not man who is apointed as a judge, but God is the judge.
Its tough to understand all these things I know . But we the elect cant be so unless we learn what is the elect. (they are ministering Gods love and will for all mankind till the day of Judgement.)ministering God's love, by spreading the gospel, and living the word is the elects role.
Holy, Holy, Holy, God in three persons blessed trinity:saint: Amen.Amen brother, praise God!
God Bless.
Rocking horse
Oct 27th 2008, 01:11 AM
Curious, where is this in scripture?
Oh I don't think there IS any scripture for what I said, it's just what I believe....and I was giving my opinion....
Does every answer we give to posts have to be "scripture" based ???
Redimido
Nov 3rd 2008, 03:13 AM
I am not sure what you mean by "one kind of love?"
In other words does god like man have a different kind of love for his bride than say the neighbors wife or any other women for that matter? The love that a husband has for his wife for example is different than the love he has for the burglar how broke into the house. So then does god show his love in different way in respect to elect and no elect. What do you think foghorn
The bride of Christ are Christians (the elect), which all are born spiritually dead (original sin). So...some of the bride are lost (temporary), in this case He loves the regenerated and the lost elect the same, I believe. After all He came to seek and save the lost, did He not?Sorry about that I should of clarified that more. By lost I meant those how will end up in hell.
Richard H
Nov 3rd 2008, 04:09 AM
There are four type of personal love distinguished by the Greeks.
Eros (érōs)
As in “erotica”.
A romantic love, passionate love, and even sensual desire.
Philia (philía)
Love for family, friends and community.
A dispassionate and virtuous familiarity with equals.
Storge (storgē)
True affection for friends and family. Rarely used. Mostly with family.
Agape (agápē)
Unconditional love. Self-sacrificing. Loving to all. Godly love.
Romans 8:38, 39
For I am convinced that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor things present, nor things to come, nor powers,
nor height, nor depth, nor any other created thing, will be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
This word is: agape.
Shinichi Kudo
Nov 3rd 2008, 05:06 PM
Jesus loves the little children, all the children of the world, red and yellow, black and white, all his children in his sight. Jesus love the little children of the world.:idea:
xspinningisfun
Nov 16th 2008, 03:56 AM
God doesn't play favorites.
We are all his favorites, he loves us all the same.
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