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shepherdsword
Jan 25th 2009, 10:52 AM
I vote Les Stroud.
Why?

Because he doesn't go to a hotel and order takeout when the camera's not rollin.:monkeyd:

tt1106
Jan 25th 2009, 12:25 PM
You have got be kidding?:)
I have seen Bear drink his own urine twice. I saw him make a hammock 15 feet off the ground using vines and leaves. AND, I've seen him eat squirrel brains.

I've seen Les eat grub worms for four days because he couldn't catch a fish WITH fishing tackle.
I saw Bear catch 4 fish in five minutes using a stick to concuss them into a state of shock and then reach in and throw them on the beach.
Bear even caught a catfish using his hand and no bait. He just reached into a hole, let it bite him(yes it drew blood) and then he pulled it out.
He made a sheeping bag, by skinning a sheep he found in a bog, that had been there for quite some time.

In my opinion Bear has got to be the craziest survivalist I have ever seen.

Just seeing him kill a rattle snake while his eyes were swollen shut from a bee sting, has got to confirm it, then he skinned the snake, ate it, tied a knot in either end, urinated in it and then drank it when he could not find water in the desert.

Yes, I know he goes ot hotels, but In my opinion, he get's the nod.

shepherdsword
Jan 25th 2009, 01:05 PM
You have got be kidding?:)
I have seen Bear drink his own urine twice.

Dude!, RU4REAL? That was country time lemonade!

I saw him make a hammock 15 feet off the ground using vines and leaves.
What you didn't see was the off screen safety net;)
I have seen Les march three days in the artic circle with NO camera crew.




AND, I've seen him eat squirrel brains.Was that before or after his Bic Mac form Micky D's.

I've seen Les eat grub worms for four days because he couldn't catch a fish WITH fishing tackle.
I saw Bear catch 4 fish in five minutes using a stick to concuss them into a state of shock and then reach in and throw them on the beach.
Bear even caught a catfish using his hand and no bait. He just reached into a hole, let it bite him(yes it drew blood) and then he pulled it out.Well I guess reality is sometimes a bit boring but at least Les didn't bring his own fish with him to spice up the show. You know Bear got that catfish from catfish charlies' ,right;)

He made a sheeping bag, by skinning a sheep he found in a bog, that had been there for quite some time.I saw Les eat that same sheep for breakfast a week later;)

In my opinion Bear has got to be the craziest survivalist I have ever seen.he does put on a good SHOW, I'll give you that.

Just seeing him kill a rattle snake while his eyes were swollen shut from a bee sting, has got to confirm it, then he skinned the snake, ate it, tied a knot in either end, urinated in it and then drank it when he could not find water in the desert.I saw that one as well. He didn't get much honey out of that deal did he?
:monkeyd:

Yes, I know he goes ot hotels, but In my opinion, he get's the nod.Les gets his nods out in the wild all by his lonesome. He carries and setups up his own equipment and he doesn't have any backup. He's the MAN!:D

Brother Mark
Jan 25th 2009, 01:09 PM
Not even close... Les Stroud. The guy is real.

Bear is a good show. But it's just that... a show.

Both eat some of the grossest things you can imagine. Bear's showmanship is enjoyable at times. Les is just awesome all the time.

Brother Mark
Jan 25th 2009, 01:12 PM
Les gets his nods out in the wild all by his lonesome. He carries and setups up his own equipment and he doesn't have any backup. He's the MAN!:D

Never underestimate the impact of loneliness. What Les does by himself trumps almost everything. The shear psychological strength he has is incredible. His show is real through and through.

It's far easier to perform when you have emotional support close by. That changes everything. Les doesn't have that and he is really put to the test. IMO, Bear's show is more of a game show thing than a real survivor show. He reminds me of that show where people just eat gross things to be able to remain in the game. Still, I watch his show occasionally. I actually liked Bear's show more at first but over time, Les has won me over.

tt1106
Jan 25th 2009, 02:10 PM
LOL.... I have never seen Les do anything that worked. I like the show, but he never catches fish. He doesn't catch seagulls even with whale blubber.
His failure as a survival show certainly make him endearing but I feel sorry for the guy. :)
As far as skills, I think Bears got em.
It might have been country time Lemonade, but when he cuts open a Buffalo after it's been dead for a week and takes a bite from it's maggot infested hump, I have to give him some street cred.
Did you see that episode where Les eats some kind of natural numbing agent.
I was cracking up because, he says, "OH, I may have eaten too much, I can't feel my face." Comedy Gold.

shepherdsword
Jan 25th 2009, 02:53 PM
LOL.... I have never seen Les do anything that worked. I like the show, but he never catches fish. He doesn't catch seagulls even with whale blubber.
His failure as a survival show certainly make him endearing but I feel sorry for the guy. :)
As far as skills, I think Bears got em.
It might have been country time Lemonade, but when he cuts open a Buffalo after it's been dead for a week and takes a bite from it's maggot infested hump, I have to give him some street cred.
Did you see that episode where Les eats some kind of natural numbing agent.
I was cracking up because, he says, "OH, I may have eaten too much, I can't feel my face." Comedy Gold.

LOL,I missed that one. Although I did see the one where he gets the bright idea to steal some honey from those bees. One got him dead center on his nose and he looked liked Jimmy Durante with a cold. I felt sorry for the guy. He ended up eating that snake.That was one episode where I felt guilty for laughing so hard.:rofl:

Xel'Naga
Jan 25th 2009, 03:18 PM
Doesn't the show [Man vs. Wild] itself state that scenes are staged? Les Stroud, as far as I'm aware, is the real deal... Bear might as well be best buds with Joe Rogan.

shepherdsword
Jan 25th 2009, 03:22 PM
Doesn't the show [Man vs. Wild] itself state that scenes are staged? Les Stroud, as far as I'm aware, is the real deal... Bear might as well be best buds with Joe Rogan.


That's what I'M sayin. It's like the UFC versus the WWF( with Les as the UFC;))

lbeaty1981
Jan 26th 2009, 01:54 PM
Never underestimate the impact of loneliness. What Les does by himself trumps almost everything. The shear psychological strength he has is incredible. His show is real through and through.

It's far easier to perform when you have emotional support close by. That changes everything. Les doesn't have that and he is really put to the test. IMO, Bear's show is more of a game show thing than a real survivor show. He reminds me of that show where people just eat gross things to be able to remain in the game. Still, I watch his show occasionally. I actually liked Bear's show more at first but over time, Les has won me over.

This is exactly why I prefer Survivorman. Even without taking issues of survival into consideration, Les is all alone in the middle of nowhere for days at a time. If he gets hurt, ambushed by a wild animal, etc..., there's nobody there to bail him out. On top of that, Les isn't afraid to share exactly how he's feeling through it all; the fear, the doubt, the almost unbearable lonliness, we get to see it all. To me, it's just a much more realistic view of what things are really like when you're out there all alone.

And by the way, I'm betting that it's a lot harder to catch fish/seagulls when you've been walking for 3 solid days with little to no food in your stomach. :)

HisLeast
Jan 26th 2009, 03:06 PM
Dude!, RU4REAL? That was country time lemonade!


Urine... Country Time Lemonade.
Same thing in'nit? :lol:

Any guy who has the skill to do the things either of them do, is a more prepared man than me... weather or not he sleeps in a Holiday Inn at the end of the day or not. I respect both men, but prefer to watch Les Stroud and would sooner take lessons from him.

Brother Mark
Jan 26th 2009, 03:23 PM
The other thing folks forget about Les... because he's alone, he has to do all the camera work himself. That takes up about 40% of his time (if memory serves correctly) that would otherwise be devoted to survival. Ever notice those shots of him walking away? Well, he has to return and get his camera because he doesn't have a crew there to babysit him.

IMO, he wins hands down when it comes to reality.

IamRyan
Jan 28th 2009, 04:39 AM
Yeah, I would say in a real survival situation i would rather be with Les, but if it was a high risk emergency situation I would want Bear because he is BA and knows more dangerous stuff.

But I think Man v Wild is more entertaining just cause of the crazy stuff he does on purpose. I mean, jumping into a river in the artic just to show what to do is pretty funny. Not to mention his funny interpretation of the words vitamins and glacier. :lol:

RabbiKnife
Jan 28th 2009, 04:09 PM
Les without any competition.

farmdirt
Feb 6th 2009, 07:31 AM
Did you catch Les's last show, filmed in the jungles of Papa New Guina? Les Stroud is the man, I watch Bear too but his show is too hollywood, he take unnessary risks, that's not survival its stunts in the wild. Not bad, just not real. I would love to spend just one day with Les, I could learn sooo much...

tt1106
Feb 6th 2009, 05:12 PM
Gotta say,
Did you see Bear do a BACKFLIP off a helicopter skid into the water from 40 feet?
Incredible. :)

Xel'Naga
Feb 6th 2009, 05:32 PM
Gotta say,
Did you see Bear do a BACKFLIP off a helicopter skid into the water from 40 feet?
Incredible. :)

I once watched Arnold fight off a Predator in the jungles of South America(?). Now that was incredible:rolleyes:

BrckBrln
Feb 6th 2009, 07:05 PM
While Les is awesome, Bear is a freak of nature.

Brother Mark
Feb 6th 2009, 07:12 PM
While Les is awesome, Bear is a freak of nature.

He pretends. He's all about show. Les is real. That pretty much did it for me. Bear tries to make something look like a close call but we can pretty much assume it is a staged thing now.

BrckBrln
Feb 6th 2009, 07:30 PM
He pretends. He's all about show. Les is real. That pretty much did it for me. Bear tries to make something look like a close call but we can pretty much assume it is a staged thing now.

Irrelevant. I would still rather have Bear than Les in a survival situation.

Xel'Naga
Feb 6th 2009, 07:35 PM
Irrelevant. I would still rather have Bear than Les in a survival situation.

Err.. That's like saying you'd rather have Arnold because he fought off an alien Predator:hmm:

BrckBrln
Feb 6th 2009, 07:41 PM
Err.. That's like saying you'd rather have Arnold because he fought off an alien Predator:hmm:

I don't understand the hostility towards Bear. :)

Has Les ever climbed Mt. Everest?

tt1106
Feb 6th 2009, 08:41 PM
I once watched Arnold fight off a Predator in the jungles of South America(?). Now that was incredible:rolleyes:

I hate to break it to you Xel, but that wasn't a real Predator. :hug:

Xel'Naga
Feb 6th 2009, 08:53 PM
I hate to break it to you Xel, but that wasn't a real Predator. :hug:

I simply refuse to believe it.

lbeaty1981
Feb 6th 2009, 10:36 PM
Gotta say,
Did you see Bear do a BACKFLIP off a helicopter skid into the water from 40 feet?
Incredible. :)

Well, if I ever have the desire to do a backflip off a helicopter, I'll be sure to give Bear a call. :)

tt1106
Feb 6th 2009, 10:52 PM
Well, if I ever have the desire to do a backflip off a helicopter, I'll be sure to give Bear a call. :)

point > you.:lol:

Just kidding. Sure he could have just jumped BUT HE DID A BACKFLIP!!!

HisLeast
Feb 6th 2009, 11:18 PM
I would rather have Arnold AND a whole pack of his miraculous Japanese energy drink (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dl0HOqjSzqw&feature=channel_page).

wheatbread
Feb 6th 2009, 11:56 PM
It would be like comparing Alec Tribec to Howie Mandel :o

Never seen Les use a flint striker to start a fire, now maybe that aint too smart to not carry one but Bear has no game without his ;)

shepherdsword
Feb 7th 2009, 12:00 AM
It would be like comparing Alec Tribec to Howie Mandel :o

Never seen Les use a flint striker to start a fire, now maybe that aint too smart to not carry one but Bear has no game without his ;)
I saw Les use two sticks and some dry grass to start a fire

wheatbread
Feb 7th 2009, 12:41 AM
I saw Les use two sticks and some dry grass to start a fire

Yep, and I can tell you from one who has tried that, you need LOTS of time and motivation to make it happen, more than I had btw :lol:

God-Gave-R+R-2-U
Mar 1st 2009, 03:03 AM
I vote Les Stroud.
Why?

Because he doesn't go to a hotel and order takeout when the camera's not rollin.:monkeyd:
Well, I kinda like both shows (and was actually watching Les in the Amazon on t.v. today), but I'd probally pick Bear and his show as the better one. I love the beautiful outdoors that the Lord has provided for us as well as creatures of all sorts and think that they'd both be fun to hang out with, but Bear moreso. He has also professed his love and belief in the Lord too many times on his Man vs. Wild show. I was really glad to hear that, along with how much he seems to care about his family, life, morals and all. Bear even was showing a laminated picture of his wife and kids (although it wasn't photographed close up) that he said that he always carries around with him wherever he goes. He also recommended that it would be a good thing for us "survivors" to do because it can really lift your spirits up during your journey to get back home. Honestly, they both eat wild and crazy things which is always a quite entertaining part of their shows. Alot of times you might see them surviving off of things like bugs, frogs, squirrels, snakes and whatever else might be around to keep them alive and that sounds fine most of the time. Other times though, they might have to dig out a left over animals body as well as eating things like brains, eyeballs, noses or other strange (perhaps even private) body parts. That's kind of odd to me, but I guess that it could also be some good training for that day that we might be lost or in a tragic "crash" situation. If we wanna stay alive, sometimes we might have to face those disgusting things head on in order to have enough energy to live another day out. Closing out though, Bear and his Man vs. Wild show are clearly better as far as I believe even though I also like Les and his show. Bear being a godly man that truly cares for his family no matter where he's at is why I rate Bear as the better survivor with the better survival show.;)

God-Gave-R+R-2-U
Mar 1st 2009, 03:25 AM
Irrelevant. I would still rather have Bear than Les in a survival situation.
Yeah, I mean, even in one of his shows he had one of his "friends" come along for the journey with him and he kept on making excuses about not having enough of everything and having to stay close so he wouldn't get lost/separated from his friend. Seriously, he was also kinda greedy in that episode too. I mean, as I've said, he was still talking about having to split the food in half, but Les always wanted to have the last word spoken over his friend. I know he's the major guy in the show and all, but why do you have to be so greedy and arrogant when it comes to words used and when to use them on a survival show? Honestly, shouldn't a survival show always be about surviving and what if Les' friend had something to say that could've helped them both out or those watching on t.v. out? I guess that's about all I gotta say about that situation, but now I also gotta tell everyone how annoying I think it is that he's always doing a harmonica "song" in every episode. On top of that, it's like everytime he sits down or doesn't have much else to say, he'll immediately start doing a "I've got no food blues" or "I hope I find water soon blues" on his harmonica... just a joke!:P Now, if that's not "staged" (as some might've claimed that Bear sometimes is), I don't know what is.:bounce:

God-Gave-R+R-2-U
Mar 1st 2009, 03:48 AM
You have got be kidding?:)
I have seen Bear drink his own urine twice. I saw him make a hammock 15 feet off the ground using vines and leaves. AND, I've seen him eat squirrel brains.

I've seen Les eat grub worms for four days because he couldn't catch a fish WITH fishing tackle.
I saw Bear catch 4 fish in five minutes using a stick to concuss them into a state of shock and then reach in and throw them on the beach.
Bear even caught a catfish using his hand and no bait. He just reached into a hole, let it bite him(yes it drew blood) and then he pulled it out.
He made a sheeping bag, by skinning a sheep he found in a bog, that had been there for quite some time.

In my opinion Bear has got to be the craziest survivalist I have ever seen.

Just seeing him kill a rattle snake while his eyes were swollen shut from a bee sting, has got to confirm it, then he skinned the snake, ate it, tied a knot in either end, urinated in it and then drank it when he could not find water in the desert.

Yes, I know he goes ot hotels, but In my opinion, he get's the nod.
Oh yeah, that was quite cool and fun in Bears fishing methods. The funny thing (even in todays episode) was that Les was trying to make a fishing hook out of his pop can that he had to drink and even failed on that! Les has also caught his "survival home" on fire and all he did about it was just heating up some rocks to try and stay warm. Man, Bear really is much cooler (and wiser too I believe) than Les. "Sheeping" bag too...lol. What a fun choice, as a name like "sheeping" bag could bring a grin to anyone's face. Yeah, that sting was really intense all over his face too! I don't even care anymore if Les uses (and carries around) his extra cameras to film his show, while Bear has others filming his unique survival situations. Bear really is the better man perhaps knowledge wise and definitely personality and faith wise. It would be fun though to get both Bear and Les together for one or more shows. Bear could provide the amazing survival show while Les could simply film it!:rofl:

farmdirt
Mar 3rd 2009, 03:59 AM
Bear is Hollywood ham, and you like it.

Xel'Naga
Mar 3rd 2009, 04:31 AM
Bear really is the better man perhaps knowledge wise and definitely personality and faith wise. It would be fun though to get both Bear and Les together for one or more shows. Bear could provide the amazing survival show while Les could simply film it!:rofl:

You do realize Bear was caught for faking his show, right? I could watch Fear Factor and get the same brainless entertainment.

shepherdsword
Mar 3rd 2009, 11:14 AM
I could do a survivor show too if I could order pizza at the hotel when the camera isn't rolling. It's easy to bring your own fish with you and throw them up on the back like you just caught them.:rofl:

wheatbread
Mar 3rd 2009, 03:55 PM
I caught part of Bear's episode the other day, I think he was in the Ukraine or sumin. He was sliding down this steep hill in some trees and slipped and a hand came into the frame of view to catch him... :rofl:

Kirby123
Mar 3rd 2009, 11:38 PM
i would say les stroud is very interesting and personally i am much more impressed by him, with carrying all that equiptment by himself, managing the shots, AND surviving. BUT Bear Grills is much more educational. if your going out to survive in some area Les Stroud would tell you the basics but Bear would tell you the specifics. besides Bear is a coward "we have to get out of this ice cave, just because its been here for the past year and a half doesn't mean that it can't collapse at ANY SECOND!"

and all those movies watching Bear catch fish, you realize that if he was actually catching them it took him hours. I fish a decent amount, and i know that fish don't naturally bite fingers. or toes. atleast the ones in florida don't. I've been spear fishing before also, it takes a ton of patience, if you see anyone catch a fish twice in the same spot within a few minutes would be simply a miracle because unless the fish are carnivores (which they normally aren't in very shallow water) then they will run from the fish blood.

wheatbread
Mar 3rd 2009, 11:48 PM
Here's one I just thought of.
How is it that everything Les finds to eat is just Delicious, and everything Bear eats is awful, yet Les has to eat what he finds and Bear does not :hmm:

tt1106
Mar 4th 2009, 01:15 AM
Nope. Bear still gets the nod. Les is entertaining only because he routinely fails.

I'll never come around.:)

lbeaty1981
Mar 4th 2009, 04:08 PM
Here's one I just thought of.
How is it that everything Les finds to eat is just Delicious, and everything Bear eats is awful, yet Les has to eat what he finds and Bear does not :hmm:

It's said that hunger is the best spice. ;)

tt1106
Mar 5th 2009, 01:25 AM
Les eats Grubs, Bear eats Dead rotting flesh.

wheatbread
Mar 6th 2009, 04:41 AM
Les eats Grubs, Bear eats Dead rotting flesh.

Les is hungry :lol: he still cooks the lil bugars tho, bear is just....:dunno:

RabbiKnife
Mar 6th 2009, 01:49 PM
Let's be real...

Les eats raw seal blubber.
Bear sends the crew out for cheeseburgers.

DarrenT
Mar 15th 2009, 06:14 AM
Plus Bear will do things and give advice that is actually very dangerous even for someone with special forces training like him. I've seen him sled down the side of mountain, try to cross a pit on bridge made of bamboo and vines, try to float down a cold river with rapids, swim across a lake in 40 degree weather rather then walk around it. He just doesn't give good advice, never mind that he's not actually surviving on his own out there. I would be fine with that if he'd give useful and safe advice.

God-Gave-R+R-2-U
Mar 17th 2009, 01:22 AM
Nope. Bear still gets the nod. Les is entertaining only because he routinely fails.

I'll never come around.:)
Whether it's about entertainment, professionalism, success (in surviving and getting food/drinks), personality, humor, etc... I'd much rather see, hear, trust or hang out with Bear in any and all of these situations over Les "the Canadian harmonica blues man.":rofl:I get quite annoyed whenever I hear him sit back all alone playing his little harmonica like he thinks he might actually have any musical talent, let alone when he tries to "sing" about the blues. As I've already admitted though, I do like his survival show too, just not quite as much. Les' boring and very annoying "musical cries" make me appreciate and enjoy the exciting and interesting entertainment of Bears survival show all that much more. To each his own though. If your opinion is different from mine, then that's alright by me. Just don't try to tell me or anyone else that you enjoy or actually think that Les has any real musical talent because he doesn't have enough talent with his harmonica (or singing) to even be an average musician to stand next to me. I mean, quite simply, his average harmonica talent is quite miniscule and immature/young when put up against (or to even attempt to play along with) an experienced musician that has several years of experience (in Guitar, Drums, Piano, Percussion along with basic Bible Study, Hospital and Church singing experience) like me. Les still has alot to work on and hopefully he just sticks with studying and learning the outdoors/survival. Praise the Lord. Amen!;)

God-Gave-R+R-2-U
Mar 17th 2009, 01:28 AM
Les eats Grubs, Bear eats Dead rotting flesh.
Which do you prefer...lol?:D I mean, atleast if the "flesh" is cooked it shouldn't be too much of a problem, right? Bugs are just bugs, but I'd probally eat them if I had to in a survival situation. I don't think I'd ever actually enjoy any of them though, even if they were dipped in chocolate or...:eek:

shepherdsword
Mar 17th 2009, 03:14 AM
Whether it's about entertainment, professionalism, success (in surviving and getting food/drinks), personality, humor, etc... I'd much rather see, hear, trust or hang out with Bear in any and all of these situations over Les "the Canadian harmonica blues man.":rofl:I get quite annoyed whenever I hear him sit back all alone playing his little harmonica like he thinks he might actually have any musical talent, let alone when he tries to "sing" about the blues. As I've already admitted though, I do like his survival show too, just not quite as much. Les' boring and very annoying "musical cries" make me appreciate and enjoy the exciting and interesting entertainment of Bears survival show all that much more. To each his own though. If your opinion is different from mine, then that's alright by me. Just don't try to tell me or anyone else that you enjoy or actually think that Les has any real musical talent because he doesn't have enough talent with his harmonica (or singing) to even be an average musician to stand next to me. I mean, quite simply, his average harmonica talent is quite miniscule and immature/young when put up against (or to even attempt to play along with) an experienced musician that has several years of experience (in Guitar, Drums, Piano, Percussion along with basic Bible Study, Hospital and Church singing experience) like me. Les still has alot to work on and hopefully he just sticks with studying and learning the outdoors/survival. Praise the Lord. Amen!;)
What instrument does Bear play?

treeinheaven
Mar 23rd 2009, 05:02 AM
I just thought I'd add that my niece and nephew love man vs. wild.They are only 5 and 4.Who knew kids could get into it?

Adam

God-Gave-R+R-2-U
Mar 26th 2009, 04:31 AM
I just thought I'd add that my niece and nephew love man vs. wild.They are only 5 and 4.Who knew kids could get into it?

Adam
Well, the show is about Nature and the Outdoors and what kid doesn't like that, right?:idea:

God-Gave-R+R-2-U
Mar 26th 2009, 04:35 AM
What instrument does Bear play?
I don't know. I mean, who even knows if he plays any instrument at all? I was just saying that I'm experienced with several instruments (mainly the most with both Guitar and Drums) and that Les' "skills" are quite annoying in his show. As I've said b4 though, I still think that Les has a good survival show, yet no real musical talent, ya see?

shepherdsword
Mar 26th 2009, 08:45 AM
I don't know. I mean, who even knows if he plays any instrument at all? I was just saying that I'm experienced with several instruments (mainly the most with both Guitar and Drums) and that Les' "skills" are quite annoying in his show. As I've said b4 though, I still think that Les has a good survival show, yet no real musical talent, ya see?


Being born and growing up in Memphis,Tn has made me immune to annoying attempts at playing the blues. You hear it all the time there;)

God-Gave-R+R-2-U
Apr 1st 2009, 04:13 AM
Being born and growing up in Memphis,Tn has made me immune to annoying attempts at playing the blues. You hear it all the time there;)

I feel your pain...lol.:D Out of curiousity though, I'm starting to wonder if you've ever played any instrument (or are trying to start one soon) and, if so, which one(s) do ya play? On top of that, I'd also like to know what music/bands you listen to, are inspired by and/or have seen in concert? Just one brother getting to know another.:cool:

Pbminimum
Apr 2nd 2009, 10:16 PM
Les Stroud is prbably the most likely to survive. But Bear would eat Les if given the chance. That dude will eat ANYTHING !:o

TheAnswer99
Apr 13th 2009, 10:31 PM
Les Stroud for countless reasons

#1 reason: Les carries all of his equipment by himself without the aid of any crew members - unlike Bear

don't get me wrong - I love Bear, but I have more respect for what Les does

RabbiKnife
Apr 16th 2009, 04:07 PM
At night during his survival week, Les sits alone in his shelter and plays the harmonica to chase away his fears.

At night during his survival week, Bear sits with his crew at the Holiday Inn and listens to the piano player in the bar to chase a few beers.

MLC
May 24th 2009, 11:43 PM
It comes down to this, Bear's show may be more entertaining to certain people and there is no problem in that, but Bear is more of a stunt man/fear factor contestant, while Les is an elite survivalist.

If you were in a survival situation, would you rather the guy who can jump out of helicopters and chug his own urine, or the one who actually survives the wild completely by himself for long peiods of time by being smart and conserving energy, while at the same time successfully finding food and water to sustain him?

Also, both Les and Bear have drank their urine on their shows, but Les filtered his while Bear chugged a fresh serving for shock value. Yes, one may be more entertaining, and one may be "cooler", but which one is truly the better survivalist? Without a doubt that is Les Stroud.

Also, this is from wiki...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bear_Grylls#Criticism

Man vs. Wild / Born Survivor has been criticized for fabricating some of the situations Grylls finds himself in. In 2006 it was revealed that Born Survivor misled viewers into believing that Grylls was stranded in the wild alone when he was not and Channel 4 suspended the show for a few weeks.[29]

The issue of scenes being manipulated was raised by Mark Weinert, a US survival consultant.He told the UK's Sunday Times that Grylls spent nights in a motel in Hawaii when he was claiming to be stranded on a desert island.Mr Weinert also alleged that a raft was put together by team members before being taken apart so Grylls could be filmed building it.[30]

Grylls was shown trying to ride "wild" horses that were in fact tame, and had been hired from a trekking station nearby. A scene where Grylls was purported to have escaped from an active volcano by leaping across lava, avoiding poisonous sulphur dioxide gas, was actually created with special effects, using hot coal and smoke machines. Similarly, it was revealed that Grylls stayed at a crew base-camp in the Costa Rican jungle, while giving viewers the impression that he was alone. There have been several other incidents, including the impression Grylls built a raft "in a matter of hours with no tools". According to an adviser on the show, the raft was actually in part built by a stunt consultant. This episode implied it was filmed on a small South Pacific island, which Channel 4 admitted was actually a peninsula in Hawaii, the scene of Hollywood movie shoots. These incidents were confirmed by Channel 4, who argued that it was not a documentary, but a "how-to" guide to survival, implying that staged scenes were acceptable in that context.[31][32][33][34]

Discovery and Channel 4 aired reedited episodes, removing elements that were too planned, with a fresh voice-over and a preceding announcement pointing out that some situations are 'presented to Bear to show the viewer how to survive'.

Survivalist Ray Mears has labelled Grylls a "boy scout" (a somewhat ironic comment given that Grylls was later appointed to the role of Chief Scout of the UK), and a "showman" who uses TV trickery on his programme Born Survivor.[35]

DeadToSelf
Jun 9th 2009, 07:18 PM
Brothers here is a clip that will show you that "Survivorman" is real and "Man Vs. Wild isn't" Or at least I think.:lol::lol:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UpSlpvb1is

Jeffinator
Jun 13th 2009, 08:10 PM
Brothers here is a clip that will show you that "Survivorman" is real and "Man Vs. Wild isn't" Or at least I think.:lol::lol:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UpSlpvb1is

Aw and I really liked that show

slightlypuzzled
Jun 13th 2009, 09:28 PM
I prefer 'Man Vs. Food'...now that is a topic close to my heart...or about 12 inches below it....mmmmmmmmmmmmm

tt1106
Jun 13th 2009, 09:30 PM
Lies all lies! ...................

DeadToSelf
Jun 18th 2009, 08:38 AM
I prefer 'Man Vs. Food'...now that is a topic close to my heart...or about 12 inches below it....mmmmmmmmmmmmm

No I really don't like that show. He never finishes a challenge. I know they aren't easy but if you're going to have a show about challenges at least polish several of them. Right?haha

I do like bizarre foods with andrew zimmerman.haha

KATMAN
Jun 18th 2009, 04:05 PM
I've seen both shows from time to time and I'd give Les the nod here. Some of the shows I've are more practical if happened to you in a real life situation. My favorites are the plane wreck,stranded because of motocycle failure,and lost in a swamp.Most,if all of these can happen. I've heard of people surviving by eating their own feces and drinking their own urine,but I'd rather think about those extreme situations.

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