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Christian Sweetie
Apr 29th 2009, 09:15 PM
So now I know why I've been emotionally numb for the past two months. It's not a hardened heart (praise God) but it's not a good alternative. It's depression. No, I'm not "properly" diagnosed by a doctor but looking up on the Depression Canada website it all fits together. The lack of emotions, the apathy for everything in my life. The inability to concentrate where I once could tune out a bomb if I wanted to. The severe memory loss. The website said that some worried they had Alzheimer's, which I did because my once superb memory has crumbled into oblivion. This is a girl who could rhyme off an entire newspaper article who now can't even remember information someone told her two minutes ago and is constantly making simple spelling and grammar errors. I got 89% in English last semester. Now I can barely remember how to form a thesis.

It's gotten progressivley worse. It feels like my mind is shutting down and running on autopilot. I can't think properly. I can never remember ANYTHING! And my family has a history of depression (my mom is on drugs for it and I think her mom had it too). Praise God I can still somewhat function (my marks haven't dropped that much, usual summertime slacking off) but I can't go on like this! It's been over TWO MONTHS.

I don't know what to do. I'm very independant and I loathe telling people things, I'm better at figuring things out for myself. Heck, even posting this thread should tell you I've reached the end of my line. And I don't want to go on drugs. Those things mess with your mind, and my mind has already been messed with enough with both this and Satan. I've seen what those drugs can do. I've prayed to God to heal me, but perhaps He's letting this linger, as a lesson. Any help? Prayers? Thanks in advance guys, love you all.

livingwaters
Apr 29th 2009, 10:59 PM
May I ask why you are so depressed? Sixteen is the age to be so excited about life....you haven't even started to live, yet!!!! Don't let satan label you with a disease just because someone in your family had something!! OK? Go and talk to a doctor, but you need to have some answers as to why you feel so hopeless. :pray:My prayers are going up for you, sweetie....please know that God doesn't give us disease, but to the contrary, took stripes for us at Calvary so that we ARE healed. Now, sometimes the answers to our prayers are not magical as we think they should be, and may not happen in a blink of an eye.....but, just know, NOTHING is impossible for our God....read your Bible, read your Bible, read your Bible, pray, pray, pray....the Bible says that whosoever (that's us) will ask for Wisdom, God will give it liberally!!!! So, Psalm 46:10 says, "be still and know that I am God."

Remember this, God is always on time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! No matter what it looks like in the natural, HE works in the supernatural!!!! Have Faith the size of a mustard seed, the Bible says, and you can say, "mountain move," and it will!!!!!! Glory to God...don't give up, cause it ain't over till the LORD says it's over.....Philippians 4:13 says, "I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me." Stand on the Word....read it, so you'll know it!!!

God Bless:hug:

Sojourner
Apr 30th 2009, 05:27 AM
From one who has been depressed the vast majority of his life let me tell you this, one can hardly be depressed in an life filled with the Bible, praise, and thanksgiven.

Saturate your mind in the Word of God, praise God for who he is and what he has done in your life, begin to be thankful (maybe for the little things first) for the clean air you breathe, for the sun rising, for good clean water to drink. When you slowly begin to change your mindset your depression will vanish.

"Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things." Philippians 4:8

Think on the good not the negative. Example: Lord I didn't get that job promotion and raise, but I praise you that in today's economy many don't have a job, but I have my job from your blessings.

Below, I have included a little thing to help you think on the benefits of being thankful.

May God, through these principles make you joyous. :hug:


GIVING THANKS

Giving thanks brings us back to our center -
God, out from Whom our life flows
with order and purpose. As we give
thanks, the events and people that make up
our life are no longer its center, but simply
part of the flow of our life.


If we mix up the center with the flow of
life, we are subject to constantly changing
moods, depending on whether we like the
people and subsequent circumstances
which are taking place in this moment.


As we give thanks, faith is acknowledging
and receiving His love. Faith says, “Despite
what my eyes see and my emotions feel,
God is in the act of loving me in this
moment, and so I give Him thanks.”


Giving thanks takes attention from the
evils we cannot change and puts our
lives - our present and future
moments, firmly in the hands of His love.


And where we center our attention becomes
a source of energy to us. To focus on the
evil opens the floodgates to the energy of
that evil. To give thanks to God opens up
the doors of our being to Him and fills us
with the energy of His unconditional love.

bagofseed
Apr 30th 2009, 06:20 AM
So now I know why I've been emotionally numb for the past two months. It's not a hardened heart (praise God) but it's not a good alternative. It's depression. No, I'm not "properly" diagnosed by a doctor but looking up on the Depression Canada website it all fits together. The lack of emotions, the apathy for everything in my life. The inability to concentrate where I once could tune out a bomb if I wanted to. The severe memory loss. The website said that some worried they had Alzheimer's, which I did because my once superb memory has crumbled into oblivion. This is a girl who could rhyme off an entire newspaper article who now can't even remember information someone told her two minutes ago and is constantly making simple spelling and grammar errors. I got 89% in English last semester. Now I can barely remember how to form a thesis.

It's gotten progressivley worse. It feels like my mind is shutting down and running on autopilot. I can't think properly. I can never remember ANYTHING! And my family has a history of depression (my mom is on drugs for it and I think her mom had it too). Praise God I can still somewhat function (my marks haven't dropped that much, usual summertime slacking off) but I can't go on like this! It's been over TWO MONTHS.

I don't know what to do. I'm very independant and I loathe telling people things, I'm better at figuring things out for myself. Heck, even posting this thread should tell you I've reached the end of my line. And I don't want to go on drugs. Those things mess with your mind, and my mind has already been messed with enough with both this and Satan. I've seen what those drugs can do. I've prayed to God to heal me, but perhaps He's letting this linger, as a lesson. Any help? Prayers? Thanks in advance guys, love you all.
Don't embrace it.

Spiritual battle is going on all over the place.
How do you fight?

Just came through the same my self.

Though He slay me, yet I will trust in Him!

A teaching I heard today that confirmed this also.

When a nation has a christian heritage it is swept clean in a sense.
Just like a cleaned house, the demons who once lived there wander and return with many even more evil then them selves.

The teacher argued that the worst atrocities didn't come out of pagan nations, but rather post christian ones.

Lefty
Apr 30th 2009, 06:54 AM
Prayers sent up for you:pray:

The solution is in God, as others have well said, but I'd want you to understand how you've gotten to this point too, so you can know and be more specific on what to ask of him.

Those things you mentioned are some symptoms of depression, a condition which as you know, follows frustration. Your mom is depressed and you're not happy with the way she's handled it. Is your dad possibly in some denial of the way she is too? Are any of your frustrations coming from this?

Your independent personality and reluctance to confide in others may be your way of protecting yourself, but also a part of the problem. I had a similar situation when I was 19 and the best advice I recieved was to simply tell those I was having a hard time with; my parents, what I felt. Whether they responded the way I wanted was their issue, but I had to get it out of me. That's the point.

Christian Sweetie
May 2nd 2009, 04:24 AM
May I ask why you are so depressed? Sixteen is the age to be so excited about life....you haven't even started to live, yet!!!! Don't let satan label you with a disease just because someone in your family had something!! OK? Go and talk to a doctor, but you need to have some answers as to why you feel so hopeless. :pray:My prayers are going up for you, sweetie....please know that God doesn't give us disease, but to the contrary, took stripes for us at Calvary so that we ARE healed. Now, sometimes the answers to our prayers are not magical as we think they should be, and may not happen in a blink of an eye.....but, just know, NOTHING is impossible for our God....read your Bible, read your Bible, read your Bible, pray, pray, pray....the Bible says that whosoever (that's us) will ask for Wisdom, God will give it liberally!!!! So, Psalm 46:10 says, "be still and know that I am God."

Remember this, God is always on time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! No matter what it looks like in the natural, HE works in the supernatural!!!! Have Faith the size of a mustard seed, the Bible says, and you can say, "mountain move," and it will!!!!!! Glory to God...don't give up, cause it ain't over till the LORD says it's over.....Philippians 4:13 says, "I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me." Stand on the Word....read it, so you'll know it!!!

God Bless:hug:

I don't really have a concrete idea on why I'm depressed. This is the first time I've ever dealt with this. Some ideas have been floating around in my head but whether they are correct or not I don't know. You're right though, this isn't God's doing, it's just frustrating to be dealing with this. And you're right about the need to pray and read God's Word. I've been slacking because I just feel so apathetic, I just can't bring the energy to do it. I can barely bring myself to do my schoolwork let alone read the Bible. But I will try and ask God for help.


From one who has been depressed the vast majority of his life let me tell you this, one can hardly be depressed in an life filled with the Bible, praise, and thanksgiven.
Saturate your mind in the Word of God, praise God for who he is and what he has done in your life, begin to be thankful (maybe for the little things first) for the clean air you breathe, for the sun rising, for good clean water to drink. When you slowly begin to change your mindset your depression will vanish.

This is encouraging, you say you've been depressed also? That's great advice, and as I've said, my relationship with Christ has been hitting the rocks because I'm so apathetic lately it's so hard to summon up gratefulness. That thing was very helpful, I'll try to be thankful for little things, like the fact that He is with me, that I'm healthy (well physically anyway) that I have a stable family...yadda yadda yadda. Now as someone who has been depressed, can I ask you, for you, have you ever defeated it with God? Or do you still battle it? I have a horrible feeling that this will be my longest battle ever.

Those things you mentioned are some symptoms of depression, a condition which as you know, follows frustration. Your mom is depressed and you're not happy with the way she's handled it. Is your dad possibly in some denial of the way she is too? Are any of your frustrations coming from this?

Yes, I'm not happy with how's she's handled it or what it does to her but I don't feel my frustrations are coming from this. I've learned to accept this over the years and if it was frustrations from this, they're about three years late you know what I mean? As for my dad, he knows about this and isn't in denial. I think there are other causes at work but I'm not 100% sure what they are. I need to do a careful self-evaluation, but right now, I'm finding that hard. Not because I'm afraid of what I'll find, but because my mind feels like it has shut down, it's hard for me to think. I need God's help for this, big time.

Your independent personality and reluctance to confide in others may be your way of protecting yourself, but also a part of the problem. I had a similar situation when I was 19 and the best advice I recieved was to simply tell those I was having a hard time with; my parents, what I felt. Whether they responded the way I wanted was their issue, but I had to get it out of me. That's the point.

Now there's something I hadn't thought about. That is good, no, excellent advice. I know the people I'm having problems with, but are they the cause of my depression? My independance is for sure part of the problem. It just gets worse because I refuse outside help. It's ruined me before. That I don't know. Hmmm, thanks for that and the prayers.

Don't embrace it.

Spiritual battle is going on all over the place.
How do you fight?

I've always been terrible at the spiritual battles. I just don't know how to don the Armour of God. I try to forcefully remove Satan in the name of Jesus but it takes so long and a lot of repeated tries to work. A Spiritual battle eh? I'd never thought of it that way.

Thank you all for the prayers. I'm in desperate need of them.

Sojourner
May 2nd 2009, 10:40 AM
Now as someone who has been depressed, can I ask you, for you, have you ever defeated it with God? Or do you still battle it? I have a horrible feeling that this will be my longest battle ever.Before I answer that, let me tell you this- You might say that I come by worry naturally, my Mother was so negative about everything and has alway been. If I said that I am going on a day trip she would start those cog's in her mind to turning and will promptly come up with "what if's". She was born with a proverbial dark cloud hovering over her head. So that's the roots of which I come.

My other problem was me, always had a passive mind, therefore, I was conformed into the image that other had of me. If some was of the opinion that I was the filth of the earth then I was the filth of the earth. Whaever teasing I received I took it to heart, the wrong way. My parents didn't socialize me in my preschool ages and I wasn't outgoing, and when I when into the first grade I was totally illprepared for the nuiances of the children being children. As a result I began to drop out of life, quit caring, and failed all through school. Then employment ..... that's another story. :)

Yes, I can say that I have had long spans of time when I wasn't depressed, more so as I get older. God has the solution to all of mankinds woes. We don't have to be depressed - God's principle's works.

I will have more to share from the Bible later today. :hug:

steelerbabe
May 7th 2009, 04:00 PM
First and foremost I am praying for you:hug::pray: My daughter was diagonised with depression 6 months ago. It runs in our family as well. She was not put on drugs put did receive counseling. It helped her to understand what was going on and give her coping skills. So many people have prayed along with me for her healing and she is doing much better. Please seek the Lord but also seek medical help as well. Please free feel to pm anytime if you would like to talk.

bagofseed
May 8th 2009, 12:24 AM
How does it go?

In all things give thanks...

Hard to imagine sometimes how to give thanks in some things.

Still nothing that happens to us in our lives is against Gods will.


So thank God for your present depression and know that it will accomplish His perfect plan for your life.

Sojourner
May 8th 2009, 05:02 AM
I think we lost her. Someone put out an ATB out on ChristianSweetie. :rofl::hug:

Christian Sweetie
May 8th 2009, 07:36 PM
I think we lost her. Someone put out an ATB out on ChristianSweetie. :rofl::hug:

Nah I'm still here, what's an ATB though? :)(Internet slang dumb). Just been busy with school, can only get on here for a few minutes at a time.

First and foremost I am praying for you:hug::pray: My daughter was diagonised with depression 6 months ago. It runs in our family as well. She was not put on drugs put did receive counseling. It helped her to understand what was going on and give her coping skills. So many people have prayed along with me for her healing and she is doing much better. Please seek the Lord but also seek medical help as well. Please free feel to pm anytime if you would like to talk.

Thank-you very much for your prayers, they are much needed and appreciated right now.:hug: Your words are very encouraging, I really don't want to go on drugs. How long did it take for your daughter to respond to treatment and is she doing much better or does she still have those episodes where she falls into depression for a long period of time? Also, was her depression a crushing sadness or was it more like mine? Sorry for all the questions, I haven't talked to anyone seriously about this and I'd really like to talk to someone with first hand-experience.


How does it go?
In all things give thanks...
Hard to imagine sometimes how to give thanks in some things.
Still nothing that happens to us in our lives is against Gods will.
So thank God for your present depression and know that it will accomplish His perfect plan for your life.

You're right, it's very hard to give thanks right now. Even for the smallest things, like Sojourner suggested. I just don't feel very grateful right now, and when I do thank God, I feel like I'm lying to Him because I don't feel the gratitude and I'm very apatheitc right now. I'm holding out that somehow this will teach me a valuable lesson and ultimatley bring me closer to God. But it's hard to take that as comfort when it seems like I just get worse and worse.

Yes, I can say that I have had long spans of time when I wasn't depressed, more so as I get older. God has the solution to all of mankinds woes. We don't have to be depressed - God's principle's works.

First off, wow what a sadening story, and I'm sorry to hear how your childhood went. :hug: My parents are not like that, praise God, I think it's genetics playing the crucial factor here. I'm heartened to hear it gets easier the older you gets, but as someone who is 16 right now, it's a little hard to take that as consolation. Can I ask you, did you ever go on medication? Did it help some? Thank-you all for your prayers and responses, you all are helping me so much, I really appreciate it. Love you all!

Sojourner
May 10th 2009, 03:21 AM
I think we lost her. Someone put out an ATB out on ChristianSweetie. :rofl::hug:

Nah I'm still here, what's an ATB though? :)(Internet slang dumb).
ATB = "All Points Bullitin", police talk, mean all cars and stations look for this person. :D

steelerbabe
May 10th 2009, 12:49 PM
In my daughter's case I believe it was a combination of tragic events and hormones. She is turning 13 Aug. 4. She was in counseling for 6 months without medication. School seems to still overwhelm her but we take it day by day. Depression runs on both sides of the family. There is hope and pray has helped. I am praying for you and asking God to heal you and lead you in the right direction:hug:

CoffeeCat
May 10th 2009, 05:05 PM
Christian Sweetie,

:hug: I've been where you are, and know how it feels to seem so 'stuck' in place, to have the memory problems, to feel absent minded and to feel apathy, and a lack of emotions... everything that comes with it. If you feel the need to talk to a doctor, please do so. If you can talk to your pastor as well, awesome. God WILL help you move through all of this. He's carrying you right through it. Get into His word, and hang on tight. He won't let you go. Jesus Christ is your rock and your strength.

Psalm 23 (NIV)

A psalm of David.
1 The LORD is my shepherd, I shall not be in want.

2 He makes me lie down in green pastures,
he leads me beside quiet waters,

3 he restores my soul.
He guides me in paths of righteousness
for his name's sake.

4 Even though I walk
through the valley of the shadow of death, [a]
I will fear no evil,
for you are with me;
your rod and your staff,
they comfort me.

5 You prepare a table before me
in the presence of my enemies.
You anoint my head with oil;
my cup overflows.

6 Surely goodness and love (mercy) will follow me
all the days of my life,
and I will dwell in the house of the LORD
forever.



God will guide you, and comfort you. He'll stay with You. :hug: I'm praying for you!

threebigrocks
May 10th 2009, 05:48 PM
ChristianSweetie, let me ask you this. Also, I'll offer this up right now - if you are more comfortable speaking one on one in a more private setting start a thread in the Chat to the Moderators forum (http://bibleforums.org/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=84) and I'll meet you there, okay? :) Title the thread to me.

Usually when we "shut down", there is something that we are protecting ourselves from. Something we just don't know how to process, something we don't want to process, something that threatens to cause us pain in someway. It's a self protection sort of thing. And yes, it can be a spiritual issue. Something happened that God may have wanted to use to cause you to grow, and satan got you to squash it.

Can you think back to more than 2 months ago? Take y our time, it's no hurry. This is a good thing to take up in prayer, not rush.

Christian Sweetie
May 11th 2009, 01:48 AM
In my daughter's case I believe it was a combination of tragic events and hormones. She is turning 13 Aug. 4. She was in counseling for 6 months without medication. School seems to still overwhelm her but we take it day by day. Depression runs on both sides of the family. There is hope and pray has helped. I am praying for you and asking God to heal you and lead you in the right direction:hug:

I understand, school is where it seems to get worse. I think it's because I'm in public school and am spiritually assulted every second from every corner. It can be really overwhelming. I'll be sure to pray for your girl.

:hug: I've been where you are, and know how it feels to seem so 'stuck' in place, to have the memory problems, to feel absent minded and to feel apathy, and a lack of emotions... everything that comes with it. If you feel the need to talk to a doctor, please do so. If you can talk to your pastor as well, awesome. God WILL help you move through all of this. He's carrying you right through it. Get into His word, and hang on tight. He won't let you go. Jesus Christ is your rock and your strength.

You've also felt this emotional shutdown? Oh wow, it sometimes feels like I'm the only one! Did you have to use medication to fight it or are you relying purely on Christ, like I am right now? I'm kind of hesitant to tell me doctor, for fear he'll tell my parents. I know it seems silly, but this is my personality. I fight through things by myself. I'm used to being self-reliant. It's not that I don't love my parents, I just don't know how they would react, espicially my mom. As for my pastor, I don't really know him. I'm new at my church and have only ever had a few second conversation with him. And thank you for the Psalm. It brought tears to my eyes, a rare thing these days.

Usually when we "shut down", there is something that we are protecting ourselves from. Something we just don't know how to process, something we don't want to process, something that threatens to cause us pain in someway. It's a self protection sort of thing. And yes, it can be a spiritual issue. Something happened that God may have wanted to use to cause you to grow, and satan got you to squash it.

Well, maybe there is something, but I'm not entirely sure it's the cause. It does line up. Maybe it triggered my genetic pre-disposition? I'll have to pray about it. And thank-you for the offer. If I do want to talk in private, I'll be sure to start that thread.

Again, thank-you all for your words and prayers. You are helping so much.

CoffeeCat
May 11th 2009, 02:07 AM
You've also felt this emotional shutdown? Oh wow, it sometimes feels like I'm the only one! Did you have to use medication to fight it or are you relying purely on Christ, like I am right now? I'm kind of hesitant to tell me doctor, for fear he'll tell my parents. I know it seems silly, but this is my personality. I fight through things by myself. I'm used to being self-reliant. It's not that I don't love my parents, I just don't know how they would react, espicially my mom. As for my pastor, I don't really know him. I'm new at my church and have only ever had a few second conversation with him. And thank you for the Psalm. It brought tears to my eyes, a rare thing these days.

You aren't alone, hon. If ANYONE tells you that Christians are never depressed, never have problems, never need help and support and people to talk to.... they're so, so wrong. We ALL need that. And God gave us one another. He gave us our families, friends, churches... and our doctors. That being said, no, I've never been on depression meds. There's nothing wrong with medication, though, and it does help many people -- I just chose not to use it. But I have talked to my doctor, and just talking to her at one point did help, so that someone who knew me knew what was going on.

Like you, my personality tends to make me want to fight through things all by myself. I used to consider myself 'independent', 'in control'... able to duke it out on my own. And then I realized something. I realized that I was not created by God to fight everything alone. And you weren't, either. Done of us were. We were created to walk in a loving relationship with God, through the ups and downs, hanging onto Christ and helping one another through it all. We aren't islands. And none of us are unbreakable.

I'm going to encourage you to reach out to the Christians in your life offline, as well as online... whether they're your age, or adults, or family members. Start to let them in and let them know what's going on. In my own life, I spent about 8 years learning the hard way that "going it alone" is no way to go. Not when the Lord's reached out to us with so many people who care and who will help us shoulder whatever it is that's bothering us.

Jesus Christ wants to set us free from depression, from fear, from feeling alone. We're children of God because of Him -- we can call God 'Father', and we can trust that He loves us.

Matthew 10:29-31

29 Are not two sparrows sold for a penny? Yet not one of them will fall to the ground apart from the will of your Father.
30 And even the very hairs of your head are all numbered.
31 So don't be afraid; you are worth more than many sparrows.


God cares even about the sparrows.... and knows how many hairs you have on your head. That's a God who LOVES and cares for you. :)

Christian Sweetie
May 15th 2009, 01:17 AM
You aren't alone, hon. If ANYONE tells you that Christians are never depressed, never have problems, never need help and support and people to talk to.... they're so, so wrong. We ALL need that. And God gave us one another. He gave us our families, friends, churches... and our doctors. That being said, no, I've never been on depression meds. There's nothing wrong with medication, though, and it does help many people -- I just chose not to use it. But I have talked to my doctor, and just talking to her at one point did help, so that someone who knew me knew what was going on.

I know that Christians struggle with all sorts of things and I know that medication isn't neccessarily bad, I just would really rather not take it. Lets just put it this way; I don't like how it has affected my mom. I'm heartened to hear recovery is possible without medication.

Like you, my personality tends to make me want to fight through things all by myself. I used to consider myself 'independent', 'in control'... able to duke it out on my own. And then I realized something. I realized that I was not created by God to fight everything alone. And you weren't, either. Done of us were. We were created to walk in a loving relationship with God, through the ups and downs, hanging onto Christ and helping one another through it all. We aren't islands. And none of us are unbreakable.

I think God needed me to hear these words. I'm so glad you understand (man I guess we do have a lot in common.) I'm hanging onto Christ which is just so hard now. Luckily He is being so patient with me. As I'm sure you know, it's very hard to overcome such extreme independance. I'll pray about it.

I'm going to encourage you to reach out to the Christians in your life offline, as well as online... whether they're your age, or adults, or family members. Start to let them in and let them know what's going on. In my own life, I spent about 8 years learning the hard way that "going it alone" is no way to go. Not when the Lord's reached out to us with so many people who care and who will help us shoulder whatever it is that's bothering us.

Ah and here we've hit the snag. Offline relationships. My Christian friends are few and far between and I'm not very close with any of them. I've never hung out with them, never really had a decent conversation with them; I hardly know anything about them! It'd feel so...awkward to dump my problems on people I barely know. I don't know how they would react if all of a sudden I announce I'm depressed to them. Really, I only see them once a week. Maybe I should try to hang out with one of them and then tell them? My other friends I'm slowly starting to drift apart from since I'm trying to limit my time with people who negativley influence me. As for adults, they'd tell my parents, who I don't want to know yet. There is one person offline I've told, and she struggles with it too, but we never see each other. There are three other people I'd feel comfortable telling. One I've been trying to tell for a little while, but she's busy. One is one of my Christian friends I barely know; I know her the most out of the group but I don't know how she would react. Nevermind the fact that we never seem to manage to hang out outside of youth group. And the other friend I never get to see alone. I don't know how she would react and I fear she wouldn't give me the emotional support I need.

Jesus Christ wants to set us free from depression, from fear, from feeling alone. We're children of God because of Him -- we can call God 'Father', and we can trust that He loves us.

Matthew 10:29-31

29 Are not two sparrows sold for a penny? Yet not one of them will fall to the ground apart from the will of your Father.
30 And even the very hairs of your head are all numbered.
31 So don't be afraid; you are worth more than many sparrows.


God cares even about the sparrows.... and knows how many hairs you have on your head. That's a God who LOVES and cares for you. :)

Thank-you for the Scripture. I know He does; He is what is carrying me through this right now. I just sometimes need to be reminded.

livingwaters
May 15th 2009, 01:23 AM
Jesus loves HIS little children, all children of the world...sometimes we think this song only meant "little children," when it really means all of God's children. There is a places(s) in scripture where HE addresses grown ups by "little children." Compared to HIS might and power, I'm sure size wise, we wouldn't even fill a thimble, you know.

So, just remember HE does love us sooooooo. HE will do whatever it takes to "fix" us. But, until HE does, we must fight the good fight, not grow weary and faint....we will overcome!!!!:pp

God Bless and my prayers go up for you!:pray::hug:

Sojourner
May 15th 2009, 09:51 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sojourner
I think we lost her. Someone put out an ATB out on ChristianSweetie. :rofl::hug:

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Nah I'm still here, what's an ATB though? :)(Internet slang dumb).
ATB = "All Points Bullitin", police talk, mean all cars and stations look for this person. :D Ooopsee, mistake here. It is APB, not ATB.

ChristianSweetie, I am searching the Internet and 'YouTube' for truth that will set you free.

ConqueredbyLove
May 16th 2009, 11:05 PM
(((Christian Sweetie)))

Music is one of the things that helps me the most when I am :cry:

Here is a song I love.....May it bless you, precious one :hug: :kiss::hug:

Moderator, a link to a song and video on youtube :)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtAjrNqEsoM

ConqueredbyLove
May 16th 2009, 11:15 PM
And if that song was too slow for you here is one a little faster since I see you are quite young :rofl:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGWQJ4heXS8&feature=related

Ok, moderator, I'll stop there :)

Sojourner
May 18th 2009, 09:08 AM
Eight major causes of depression.

(1) Biological factors,
(2) Learned helplessness (sense of being trapped and unable to remedy an intolerable situation),
(3) Parental rejection,
(4) Abuse,
(5) Negative thinking,
(6) Life stress,
(7) Anger,
(8) Guilt.

[Josh McDowell and Bob Hostetler, Josh McDowell's Handbook on Counseling Youth (Dallas, Texas: Word Publishing, 1996), chapter 5; Gary R. Collins, Christian Counseling: A Comprehensive Guide, revised edition (Dallas, Texas: Word Publishing, 1988).]
http://www.christiananswers.net/q-acb/acb-f001.html#1

Christian Sweetie
May 28th 2009, 02:29 AM
Ronnie, its probably biological factors, stress, negative thoughts, and anger. I think this extreme anger and stress triggered the biological genes. So now I know the causes, what's the solution?

Is sleeping a lot a symptom as well? Lately I've just been wanting to fall asleep everywhere. I keep falling asleep in math, trying to fall asleep in drama, anthro and french. Anytime I can put my head down I do, and sometimes when I shouldn't. This started about a week ago. And today, I finally snapped, yelling at my friend and stewing in the anger so I couldn't even concentrate in French. The worst part? I don't even regret doing it. In fact, I feel I restrained myself, I had a whole four months worth of anger bottled up inside just waiting to explode.

I forgot to mention this. I don't know if God is trying to send me a message or if its just me. See I'm in anthro and two weeks ago we had people with mental illnesses come in and talk to us about their stories for an entire week. The common theme "if you think you have a mental illness, get help NOW or it'll be harder to beat." I thought, hmmm maybe God is using these people to send me a message but I didn't feel absolute conviction and sureness. It was just a passing thought. What do you guys think?

And Conquered by Love, thank you for the songs. Music does help a lot I find, it is a temporary relief.

Sojourner
May 28th 2009, 02:51 AM
Ronnie, its probably biological factors, stress, negative thoughts, and anger. I think this extreme anger and stress triggered the biological genes. So now I know the causes, what's the solution?I gave you a list of causes, but we don't know your particular cause, do we?

Is sleeping a lot a symptom as well? Lately I've just been wanting to fall asleep everywhere. I keep falling asleep in math, trying to fall asleep in drama, anthro and french. Anytime I can put my head down I do, and sometimes when I shouldn't.Sleep is the body's way of relieving stress.

This started about a week ago. And today, I finally snapped, yelling at my friend and stewing in the anger so I couldn't even concentrate in French. The worst part? I don't even regret doing it. In fact, I feel I restrained myself, I had a whole four months worth of anger bottled up inside just waiting to explode.Depression and anger can come when we are lifted up in pride and people and circumstances don't facilitate that pride then we get depressed and angry. When the "flesh" isn't feeling good about itself it can be a factor in depression and angry.

I forgot to mention this. I don't know if God is trying to send me a message or if its just me. See I'm in anthro and two weeks ago we had people with mental illnesses come in and talk to us about their stories for an entire week. The common theme "if you think you have a mental illness, get help NOW or it'll be harder to beat." I thought, hmmm maybe God is using these people to send me a message but I didn't feel absolute conviction and sureness. It was just a passing thought. What do you guys think?From someone who has been to psychiatrist and psychologist let me tell you that dealing with the psychic (the mind) is not what you need, I believe the solution to your problem is spiritual and has to be address with God's principles in his Word.

Christian Sweetie
May 30th 2009, 07:37 PM
I gave you a list of causes, but we don't know your particular cause, do we?

I think I might actually. But I'm not...well ready to talk about it. There's too many wounds. It's pathetic. I know what to do, the problem is, how to do it.

From someone who has been to psychiatrist and psychologist let me tell you that dealing with the psychic (the mind) is not what you need, I believe the solution to your problem is spiritual and has to be address with God's principles in his Word.

That's what I thought, but I wasn't sure because God uses people to speak to me sometimes. What they were saying seemed to fit with what was happening to me, but like I said, I didn't feel conviction over it.

It is now officially three months of an emotionless, depressed state. I'm becoming a lot more volatile. I made up with the friend I blew up with a couple days ago, but, (and I know it sounds horrible) I'm about to initiate yet another blow-up on someone. This is the Christian friend I was telling you about who I would feel comfortable explaining my illness too. She's avoiding me. I'm trying to reach out to her and she keeps slapping my hand back. I don't know why, but I'm furious. I know I shouldn't, but I'm not thinking straight. ...I don't know. I'm just so angry that she constantly avoids me. It seems like everyone I want to tell keeps turning their back on me. And I...hate them for it. I try and reach out, but nothing. It's only a matter of time before one of them or all gets a blow-up from me.

I need prayers and God.

steelerbabe
May 31st 2009, 03:28 PM
I am praying for you:pray: Is there christian counseling available where you live? I am asking God to lead and guide you through this difficult time:hug:

Christian Sweetie
Jun 3rd 2009, 01:53 AM
Things have taken a turn for the worse. A friend of mine committed suicide on Saturday. My depression has only gotten worse. I can tell I've hit low because I was bawling my eyes out without feeling the crushing sense of loss and pain. My emotions were shut-down, as per usual. I don't know what to do anymore.:giveup:

Sojourner
Jun 3rd 2009, 12:46 PM
Sweetie, Honey, Darling, it is high time that you start a thread in "Chat to Ministry team"; please click the link below. You are way out of control and you need pastoral counseling with a pastor in your area. You need to be in a situation in your home town where people who care about you keep in touch and hold you accountable.

We care about you and love you, sweetheart. :hug:

Chat to Ministry team (http://bibleforums.org/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=143)

Sojourner
Jun 8th 2009, 09:33 PM
Christian Sweetie, please keep posting, those who care for you need to know how you are doing.

Christian Sweetie
Jun 11th 2009, 08:39 PM
Hey everyone! Long time no talk. Sorry if you guys were worried, school has been insane right now.

It may sound surprising but my emotions are starting to come back. It's almost overwhelmed me at times because I haven't felt an emotion in such a long time. Happiness is still the one that shows up the least but it comes. I'm starting to get better by the Grace of Jesus. I've been reading the Bible more and praying a lot more and I think that's helping tremendously. I'm trying to talk to Jesus throughout the day too, like an old friend, instead of one long spiel at night. I'm trying to build Our fractured relationship. I forgave my friend for blowing me off. Oh, and it helps that there's a nice Christian boy who may want to be my boyfriend. ;)

I don't know if this is the end, I doubt it. My depression will probably come back, maybe less severe, maybe more. But you guys have been such a help, espicially you Ronnie. I don't know what I would have done without you. I love you all so much. <3

Sojourner
Jun 11th 2009, 08:58 PM
you guys have been such a help, espicially you Ronnie. I don't know what I would have done without you. I love you all so much.aaah! :hug:
Glad you are doing better.

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