Researching Antisocial Personality Disorder~moved from Intro

[chicofilly]

Hello! I'm here because I wanted to learn about a Christian being a sociopath, specifically a psychopath/narcissist. I have been seeing a man (that went to bible college for six years), tried being a pastor but that never happened. I wondered how he could (as a born again Christian), die daily to self. He has no fear of God. (No respect for his late father either). He knows the facts of salvation & Christiandum, but lacks love and all the fruits. He is fearless and seems to have no guilt or remorse for things. He is a business owner (as he could not work for someone else). He has parental authority issues and his dad abused him physically, by beating him and verbal abuse. He's been "mad" at God since I've known him and that just never did change. He was devestated when his wife left him. This was a blow to his ego and he just could barely take it. He wanted to commit suicide. He told me himself that he was "sick". Meaning not healthy mentally. He finally is or seems well with regard to his failed marriage. He also wanted to commit suicide when a stockbroker cheated him out of a substantial amount of money. I am no longer seeing this man. I've overlooked so much just to have him around while I walked on eggshells. Yes I should be ashamed of myself for putting up with this sort of jekyl & hyde behavior. I was happy to stumble on this site. :hmm:

[RUN2GOD]

Hello, chicofilly, and welcome. I'm glad you stumbled onto this site, too, although I believe God led you here:). God has got a plan for you, and what better hands for your future to be in. Sometimes He adds for our own good, and sometimes He takes away for our own good, but He always eventually shows us why. Faith is waiting for that why. :hug:

[DaniHansen]

I don't know about all these psychiatric disorders. I'm also not God and therefore can't make judgment of how much of this stuff is related to a true inherent medical condition, and how much of it is just people flat-out refusing to do things God's way even though it's well within their power to do so, except they'd rather make excuses for themselves and blame it on who-knows-what. I understand the fact that we can get caught up in the moment at times and end up transgressing against another, but to do so persistently while claiming allegiance to Jesus without any sort of remorse or willingness to have God change our hearts, or asking forgiveness like the Bible commands us to, would sincerely make me doubt such a person's true conversion to Christianity. Jesus Himself said that the world would know that we are His disciples by the way we love one another. John said that he who hates his brother in Christ is a murderer. Seems pretty straightforward to me.

I believe you did the right thing by distancing yourself from such a person. Best you can do is intercede for him and ask God to deliver him from his emotional lability and blindness to the truth of his own behavior, which as far as I can see, besides the fancy labels, can best be summed up as sin. :)

[PictCry]

I do like psychology, though I am just a beginner in studying in it. This is a truly interesting person. You know maybe it could have something to do with demons.."his sickness" Because I know that demons want to keep us inactive and apparently this man is an inactive Christian. So maybe (not saying he is demon possed or anything) maybe he is very demon bothered!?? I believe that demons can play with our mind and bother our thoughts to the extent of where we have a very troubled mind. I have a very troubled mind at times, for which I need prayer.

There is always too the possibility that this guy might not be a Christian too, but I don't know about that.

[peacebringer]

Well, I really wouldn't not consider individual "antisocial" given the description, particularly with the becoming "suicidal." Someone who is truely antisocial is manipulative and really has deadened conscious. A narcissistic has unrealistic and elevated view of self. Really do not see either described her. Primarily I read an angry person who is caught up in self and engages in a lot of self-protection as well. He has been hurt significantly. He clearly reacts to the ways has been hurt. His life is all about him and would suspect he has significant need to maintain control. Personally, given the fruit of this mans life, his truely coming to saving knowledge and repentence would be in doubt. The fruit of his life does not reflect submission to God. Yet, God ultimately is the judge. I would recommend prayer for this man's eyes and ears and heart be turned off self and that He can see the true grace and peace found in the Gospel and through true surrender to our King of Kings.

Now regarding the prospect of demons, they may be there, may not, but there is plenty going on in that man's life it seems without the demons really needing to do much, I believe.

[threebigrocks]

This guy has either never truly been born again or has fallen far off the narrow path. This is indeed spiritual, manifest symptoms in our modern physco lingo. He needs to speak to someone who is strong enough to help him. He doesn't need a diagnosis - he needs help if he'll accept it.

[moonglow]

Hello! I'm here because I wanted to learn about a Christian being a sociopath, specifically a psychopath/narcissist. I have been seeing a man (that went to bible college for six years), tried being a pastor but that never happened. I wondered how he could (as a born again Christian), die daily to self. He has no fear of God. (No respect for his late father either). He knows the facts of salvation & Christiandum, but lacks love and all the fruits. He is fearless and seems to have no guilt or remorse for things. He is a business owner (as he could not work for someone else). He has parental authority issues and his dad abused him physically, by beating him and verbal abuse. He's been "mad" at God since I've known him and that just never did change. He was devestated when his wife left him. This was a blow to his ego and he just could barely take it. He wanted to commit suicide. He told me himself that he was "sick". Meaning not healthy mentally. He finally is or seems well with regard to his failed marriage. He also wanted to commit suicide when a stockbroker cheated him out of a substantial amount of money. I am no longer seeing this man. I've overlooked so much just to have him around while I walked on eggshells. Yes I should be ashamed of myself for putting up with this sort of jekyl & hyde behavior. I was happy to stumble on this site. :hmm:

You know anyone can claim to be a Christian...doesn't mean they are. How can a person even say that while acting like this?

Jesus said by their fruits we will know them...this man is obviously lost and acting like a sinner...self centered and selfish...doesn't mean he has Antisocial Personality Disorder though. I see hard core atheist act like this but I wouldn't label them as mentally ill or anything. Sure our past can influence our behavior, but in Christ we are made a new creation and we should change and show that. He obviously hasn't...

Don't ever date someone that acts like that again..no matter what they say their beliefs are...ok?

God bless

[Dude]

Welcome..........