Please Help am I unsavable

[moparnut]

Hello, I am new to this forum, this is my first post so here goes...

I am afraid that I am unsavable, I first came to really know about Christ about ten years ago and at one time was really on fire for him. I have since been in and out of church the past ten years never really getting grounded in church and backsliding more so than not (smoking, drinking, cussing, porn), I came across Genesis 6:3 and now that I sincerely do want a relationship with Jesus I feel that my window of opprotunity is gone and that I am doomed to hell and that there is nothing that I can do about it, I think that I have broken a record for saying a sinners prayer. I don't feel that God's spirit is with me.

[HisLeast]

moparnut,

First, two questions
(1) What value would the Gospel be if Christ couldn't save everyone who came to him?
(2) Throughout the New Testament, who was it that Jesus associated with? Who were the kinds of people that came to him?

They were sinners bro, just like you and me. People who's souls had drunk at the well of wretchedness. I say "like you and me" because I've had my own battle with habitual sin. You can read about it here (http://bibleforums.org/forum/showthread.php?p=2067609#post2067609).

Can God forgive you? YES! He's forgiven even worse. I know it doesn't feel that way... especially after wallowing around in the porn pit. Never the less, it is true. John 3:16 states "for WHOSOEVER believe in him".

I think the first thing you have to realize is that the sinner's prayer ain't what saves you. It might be an initiatory action, but its not what salvation is based on. Salvation is based on faith in Jesus Christ.

Perhaps it would help to think of it as accepting a job. Do you accept a job and walk away? Of course not. You accept a job and start performing the duties associated with it. Likewise, in being saved you "accept a job" in the kingdom. Not that salvation is works based, but your "job" per say is to start purging the sin from your life and strive towards righteousness. Your job is to "have faith" which means "acting faithfully" which ultimately means becoming obedient to God.

But the forgiveness is there bro, I can guarantee you that. Its there, and its free, and that's why the Gospel is called "The Good News".

[tango]

Hello, I am new to this forum, this is my first post so here goes...

I am afraid that I am unsavable, I first came to really know about Christ about ten years ago and at one time was really on fire for him. I have since been in and out of church the past ten years never really getting grounded in church and backsliding more so than not (smoking, drinking, cussing, porn), I came across Genesis 6:3 and now that I sincerely do want a relationship with Jesus I feel that my window of opprotunity is gone and that I am doomed to hell and that there is nothing that I can do about it, I think that I have broken a record for saying a sinners prayer. I don't feel that God's spirit is with me.

God can still save you but you have to be a disciple rather than a customer. That means you do what God wants you to do, rather than what you want to do. It means you let God change you from the inside out.

Of course you're still going to fall - we all have our areas of weakness and none of us is perfect. But don't be believing the lies that you've done something that can't be forgiven.

If you read my testimony (it's in the Testimonies forum here) I turned my back on God and spent over a decade fiddling around with the occult, actively resisting God. But he was gracious enough to forgive and have me back even though I didn't deserve it.

Zec 1:3 Therefore say to them, 'Thus says the LORD of hosts: "Return to Me," says the LORD of hosts, "and I will return to you," says the LORD of hosts.

[-SEEKING-]

I don't feel that God's spirit is with me.

Well I don't think that you'd feel this urge to reconcile to God if His Spirit wasn't prompting you.

[Sojourner]

I am afraid that I am unsalable. I first came to really know about Christ about ten years ago...If you were ever truly born again, then no it's not to late and the prospect of being too late is preposterous, you can't be unborn, you are saved. If you were just a sinner playing church, then no it's not too late, while there is still breath there is hope.

1 John 1:9 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=69&chapter=1&verse=9&version=9&context=verse)
If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

...backsliding more so than not (smoking, drinking, cussing, porn)Do you think that Jesus just died for your sins that are in the past before you got saved, what about presence and future sins. If Jesus just forgave our past sins then no one would be saved today. It is all under the blood and sin was dealt with at the cross - past, presence, and future.

I feel that my window of opportunity is gone and that I am doomed to hell and that there is nothing that I can do about it.That condemnation comes from the father of lies not from God.

Romans 8:33-34
Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.
Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.

I like to read it like this:
Who shall lay any thing to the charge (accusation) to God's people? It is not God that justifieth.

Who is he that condemns? It is not Christ that died, yes rather, that is risen....

I'll be watching the thread.

[motormouf]

no youre not unsavable. If Paul who aimed to cause the deaths of Chrisitans and i think had some killed became a Christian and was accepted by God, you really cant go much worse that that can you

[DaniHansen]

Why would you say a "sinner's prayer" more than once?

The sinner's prayer isn't a magic formula and doesn't get anybody saved.

I know, shocking, right? But, that's a fact. :)

If you really and truly desire to follow Jesus and for Him to be Lord of your life, and if you really and truly believe that He is alive and died for your sins and can remove them, then just ask Him. With your own words from your own heart. Be straight up and don't beat around the bush. God loves it when we're honest with ourselves, and with Him.

And if you've been disobedient and wanting to run your own life and now you're sorry for it because you see what sinful choices can lead to, then ask God for forgiveness and ask Him for help to make better choices and be more obedient.

[moparnut]

I really appreciate all of your guy's encouragement and support, I forgot to mention in my original post that I have also battled OCD (obsessive compulsive disorder) for about ten years as well, I think this is why I have broke a record on saying the sinners prayer, and I have in the past worried that I commited the unpardonable sin, worried that (because of my backslidding) I commited apostasy, and now my most recent worry is that God's spirit has left me and that I am now doomed with no chance.

I try to keep telling myself that as addicted as I was to porn for example that I could in no way I could have just quit on my own like I did cold turkey, but that I was given victory over it through Christ (Praise God I have not looked at porn in several months now and I have had absolutely no desire whatsoever to look at it either) along with the fact that I don't smoke, cuss, or drink anymore (not that I was a heavy drinker or smoker but I do remember people telling me that every other word that came out of my mouth was a cuss word...I used to have a very foul mouth).

So I just have to remind myself that if I had somehow been let go by God then why do I have victory in my life now after praying for it for so long.

I came across some scripture recently...

Isaiah 55:7 Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the LORD, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon.

Right there is proof that God will always take us back.

So please pray for me that I will get victory over my OCD so that I can grow in the Lord and stop obsessing over certain verses.

[DaniHansen]

Beloved, my prayer for you is that you may prosper and be in good health even as your soul prospers, that the same mind will be in you that was in Christ Jesus, that God will use your failures as stepping stones on the way to a greater relationship with Himself instead of away from Him, that nothing shall separate you from His love (not even yourself), and that your ears will always be open to His call to come up higher.

In Jesus' name. Therefore whom the Son sets free is free indeed.

[TrophyofGrace]

"There is nobody too bad that they can't be saved and nobody too good that they don't need to be saved."

--Pastor Adrian Rogers.



Mt 9:12 But when Jesus heard that, he said unto them, They that be whole need not a physician, but they that are sick.
Mt 9:13 But go ye and learn what that meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice: for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.


This Scripture has helped me when I've been discouraged:

Isa 42:3 A bruised reed shall he not break, and the smoking flax shall he not quench: he shall bring forth judgment unto truth.



Right there is proof that God will always take us back.

Exactly. He's only a prayer away when we've moved away from Him. His mercies are new every morning (Lam 3:22-23).

[PictCry]

God is bigger than any sin we can imagine, the only way to ever not go to heaven is not to accept God's love for us. At times I feel like a horrible horrible person, and feel that God should not forgive me nor love me, but HE does anyways :D. I can do nothing to stop or start His love, He chooses me even though I am worthless. SO you my friend are chosen by God by His love no matter what you do or don't do as lone as you believe that you need Jesus and that He loves you and that you are a sinner and that you want to Follow Him. Though you may feel oppressed by your sins and love for your sins God is still much bigger than our silly human love. Bigger than our sins.

[JohnnieGuy]

Wow ya I've been going through a very similar thing. Up and down with doubts all day, almost every day. I have OCD too. And the fact that I'm a smoker doesn't help. That's 'willful, habitual sin' right? But I desire to serve the Lord Jesus Christ MORE than I desire to smoke, so I pray that He will deliver me not only from it but from my desire as well. I also ask that He dredges me up and fixes me from the inside out. Get rid of all the reasons why I chased the affections of men and women more than Him for almost a decade after I first came to Him.

It was definitely a case of me trying to lead my own life, as some have said. I heard His voice just asking me to trust Him, but man He is a powerful and righteous God and I think you need to get to know His character and he chips away a little of you at a time.

Also, He might led you lead parts of your life for a while. But it won't be pleasant, and He won't let you get what you think you want without Him. But if you are truly His He will bring you back to Him no matter how hard you try to get away. Once you truly come to Jesus, you are His forever and He will never let you forget it! Glory to God!

He brought me to a place in my life where I want nothing than to serve Him. Thank you Jesus.