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kayte
Aug 18th 2004, 04:54 PM
Chapter Eight

Matthew 6:13(a) And do not lead us into temptation…

The Funk and Wagnal's dictionary defines temptation as 1)The act of tempting, or the state of being tempted. 2)That which tempts.
It also describes that which is tempting to be “Alluring; attractive; seductive.”

Of this we can be sure, God will never, no never entice us to sin.

James 1:13 Let no one say when he is tempted, “I am tempted by God”; for God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does He Himself tempt anyone.

There is no freedom in laying the blame of our sinfulness on how we were born, where we were born, what color our hair is, etc.

We cannot fall back on saying, “God made me this or that way”, when God says “Walk in the Spirit, and you shall not fulfill the lust of the flesh.” (Galatians 5:16)

When we pray we come to Him knowing Who He is and honestly admitting what we are.

How can we ask forgiveness if we hold God responsible for our sinfulness?

James 1:14-16 But each one is tempted when he is drawn away by his own desires and enticed.
Then, when desire has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and sin, when it is full-grown brings forth death.
Do not be deceived, my beloved brethren.

Do not be deceived… meaning we can be deceived.

Ouch. These verses are all too clear. When we sin it is our own choice. God did not entice us to sin and neither can we say the devil made us do it. It is our own desires. Shudder.

There is a popular teaching regarding ‘generational curses’ that has flown through the church in recent years. The teaching basically states that the particular sin you struggle with is most likely caused by a generational curse that was started by someone in your family years ago.

Isn’t this once again the age old escape plan called Passing the Buck? It’s not your fault… it’s great-great grandpa Wilber's fault!

The teachers of this claim that what you need to do is to renounce this curse verbally, pleading the Blood of the Lamb over it, thereby breaking the curse. Most teach you need to do this repeatedly whenever you find yourself drawn into the particular area of weakness. After repeatedly renouncing the curse if you still find yourself being held by it, then it’s time to call in some pro’s.

Pro’s are usually called in because frankly… this doesn’t work. The bondage continues because the issue hasn’t been dealt with according to God’s word. In fact, the real issue has been totally skirted.

There are so many problems in this teaching. First, sin is no longer sin. It’s now a ‘generational curse’.

Secondly, the generational curse isn’t our fault. It becomes the responsibility of some long gone ancestor, therefore we can neatly do away with the need for repentance, forgiveness and walking in obedience.

Third, it denies God’s word as He states that, “Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new.” 2 Corinthians 5:17 It denies the power of the cross and the completed work of His death and resurrection in our lives.

It boils the need to repent and walk in obedience down to verbally renouncing what someone else did. It places us in the position of victim rather than sinner.

Fourth, this teaching when followed to it’s root, lays the blame squarely on God.

The verse used to support this teaching is Exodus 20:5, only they don’t use the whole verse…

Lets start in verse 3 and go all the way through 6 so we get the complete context.

Exodus 20:3-6 You shall have no other gods before Me.
You shall not make for yourself any carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them nor serve them. For I, the Lord your God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate Me,
But showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My commandments.

“You shall have no other gods before Me.”

Short. To the point. No way to misunderstand that one…

“You shall not make for yourself any carved image,” Okay… no carving images to worship.
“or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above,” Okay…
“or that is in the earth beneath,” Okay…
“or that is in the water under the earth;” I don’t’ think God left a single loophole here for us. He nailed it down pretty thoroughly.

Have you ever dealt with a child that loves loopholes? For instance, my son was told not to drive our cars. (He loved to move them up and down the driveway… however, he’s 14 and not that we don’t trust him, BUT!)

Well, come to find out that he went down to a neighbors house and drove THEIR car.
When confronted he responded, “But you never said I couldn’t drive the neighbors car!”
Who would have thought???

Apparently God did. He knows our tendency… okay, He knows our sinful natures and how we want to get around what He says.

By the way… we now have a revised rule for our son. You shall not operate anything with an engine on the face of the earth, in or upon the waters that cover the face of the earth, or in the heavens above the earth.
Exception: You can and will push the power mower over the face of the grass upon this little dot of earth.

Verse 5 “You shall not bow down to them nor serve them. For I, the Lord your God am a jealous God,” (this isn’t the green eyed monster type of jealousy. This is Holy Love jealousy.) “visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and fourth generations of those that hate Me,” If a man hates God and raises up his children to hate God, guess what? They will most likely hate God! Not only that, they’ll raise their children to do the same… and on it goes.

This isn’t a mystical curse… this is life. Monkey see, monkey do. The solution? Repent and follow God, and raise up your children in the way they should go.

Ezekiel 18 completely unravels the teaching of the generational curse. Let’s quickly look at just verses 19-23.

“Yet you say, ‘Why should the son not bear the guilt of the father?’ Because the son has done what is lawful and right, and has kept all My statutes and done them, he shall surely live.
The soul who sins shall die. The son shall not bear the guilt of the father, nor the father bear the guilt of the son. The righteousness of the righteous shall be upon himself, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon himself.
But if a wicked man turns from all his sins which he has committed, keeps all My statutes, and does what is lawful and right, he shall surely live; he shall not die.
None of the transgressions which he has committed shall be remembered against him; because of the righteousness which he has done, he shall live.
“Do I have any pleasure at all that the wicked should die?” says the Lord God, “and not that he should turn from his ways and live?”

Jesus instructs us to pray; “lead us not into temptation”. It is God’s will, His way, His heart.

Be assured, if you love Him, making the choice to obey Him, He will enable you to stand.
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Father, help us to take full responsibility for our choices and actions. Forgive us for succumbing to the temptation to blame others, including You.
Lord, help us to walk in Your light so that it can fully shine on any darkness we harbor. Help us to walk in obedience and into Your deliverance as we rely on You. By Your grace and mercy, we repent.
In Jesus we live
Amen
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Study questions

1) Are there areas of sin in your life that you have changed the name of so they don’t sound so… sinful?

2) Are you presently blaming someone else for your sinful behavior?

3) When we come across a teaching that seems to contradict God’s Word, what should we do?

4) If you have in the past blamed someone else for your sinful behavior, would you be willing to share what you learned in order to help someone else?


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dancedwithdolphin
Aug 18th 2004, 05:54 PM
I believe Psalms 23 does a good job on this topic as well.

The Lord is my shepherd;
I shall not want.
He maketh me to lie down in green pastures;
He leadeth me beside the still waters.
He restoreth my soul;
He leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for His names sake.
Ye, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death,
I will fear no evil
For thou art with me;
Thy rod and thy staff they comfort me.
Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies;
thou annointest my head with oil;
my cup runneth over.
Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life;
and I will dwell in the house of the Lord for ever.

We may walk through that valley of the shadow of death, but we do not need to remain in darkness. For where there is a shadow, there is also light. And thy word is a lamp unto my feet and a light unto my path.

1. I learned what humanism is, and no longer view it the same way. I see how it has infiltrated our everyday lives. From children on up. It is really man worship-selves. We believe ourselves to be independent, we need no one. We teach it from birth to our children, something as simple as tying a shoe. I remember those famous words, "I can do it myself".

2. I did for awhile, when I didnt realize that was what I was doing. If something went wrong it had to be my brothers fault. When he finally said something to me, I stopped and thought for a moment. I had to apologize to him, he was right. I was like, well I had to blame someone, and I dont like to blame myself. Surely it cant always be my fault. And yet it is, the wonder of free will- its your choice. Everyone must decide for themselves which road to take.

3. I generally talk to the person. Not critically, but like we are learning together. Within every shadow lies some light. If we put our heads together and allow the Spirit to move across our void, life comes. And we both become blessed, and multiply in knowledge.

4. Yes. I always try to give examples people can relate to. To tell someone not to worry is simple. But learning is a process, not a word. It is the life in the word, that sheds light on the subject. We are building a kingdom, and it takes all of us working together to make it happen. Scriptures tell us we should share with one another, this helps us to grow.

kayte
Aug 31st 2004, 09:39 PM
1) Are there areas of sin in your life that you have changed the name of so they don’t sound so… sinful?
I think at one point or another I've tried changing the name of just about every sin to make it sound better. :eek:
For awhile, I changed gossip to 'prayer request'. I changed worry to 'concerned', anger I found a way to claim it was 'righteous' anger, etc. The Lord is so gracious and straightens us out... and forgives.
The world is wonderful at this game. Adultry is now called 'an affair'.. doesn't that word sounds nice? Like something really pleasant.

2) Are you presently blaming someone else for your sinful behavior?
Not today. :saint:

3) When we come across a teaching that seems to contradict God’s Word, what should we do?
Study diligently to find the truth... asking the Lord to show us. No matter if the truth hurts or not. If I've been led down a false road, I want to know it and I want to know what's real so that I can know the Lord better and not have my walk and relationship with Him damaged. And so that my witness to this world will be solid.

karenmot
Sep 7th 2004, 11:53 PM
There is a popular teaching regarding ‘generational curses’ that has flown through the church in recent years. The teaching basically states that the particular sin you struggle with is most likely caused by a generational curse that was started by someone in your family years ago.

Isn’t this once again the age old escape plan called Passing the Buck? It’s not your fault… it’s great-great grandpa Wilber's fault!

The teachers of this claim that what you need to do is to renounce this curse verbally, pleading the Blood of the Lamb over it, thereby breaking the curse. Most teach you need to do this repeatedly whenever you find yourself drawn into the particular area of weakness. After repeatedly renouncing the curse if you still find yourself being held by it, then it’s time to call in some pro’s.

Pro’s are usually called in because frankly… this doesn’t work. The bondage continues because the issue hasn’t been dealt with according to God’s word. In fact, the real issue has been totally skirted.

There are so many problems in this teaching. First, sin is no longer sin. It’s now a ‘generational curse’.

Secondly, the generational curse isn’t our fault. It becomes the responsibility of some long gone ancestor, therefore we can neatly do away with the need for repentance, forgiveness and walking in obedience.

Third, it denies God’s word as He states that, “Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new.” 2 Corinthians 5:17 It denies the power of the cross and the completed work of His death and resurrection in our lives.

It boils the need to repent and walk in obedience down to verbally renouncing what someone else did. It places us in the position of victim rather than sinner.

Fourth, this teaching when followed to it’s root, lays the blame squarely on God.

The verse used to support this teaching is Exodus 20:5, only they don’t use the whole verse…

Lets start in verse 3 and go all the way through 6 so we get the complete context.

Exodus 20:3-6 You shall have no other gods before Me.
You shall not make for yourself any carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them nor serve them. For I, the Lord your God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate Me,
But showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My commandments.

“You shall have no other gods before Me.”

Short. To the point. No way to misunderstand that one…

“You shall not make for yourself any carved image,” Okay… no carving images to worship.
“or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above,” Okay…
“or that is in the earth beneath,” Okay…
“or that is in the water under the earth;” I don’t’ think God left a single loophole here for us. He nailed it down pretty thoroughly.
Have you ever dealt with a child that loves loopholes? For instance, my son was told not to drive our cars. (He loved to move them up and down the driveway… however, he’s 14 and not that we don’t trust him, BUT!)

Well, come to find out that he went down to a neighbors house and drove THEIR car.
When confronted he responded, “But you never said I couldn’t drive the neighbors car!”
Who would have thought???

Apparently God did. He knows our tendency… okay, He knows our sinful natures and how we want to get around what He says.

By the way… we now have a revised rule for our son. You shall not operate anything with an engine on the face of the earth, in or upon the waters that cover the face of the earth, or in the heavens above the earth.
Exception: You can and will push the power mower over the face of the grass upon this little dot of earth.
Verse 5 “You shall not bow down to them nor serve them. For I, the Lord your God am a jealous God,” (this isn’t the green eyed monster type of jealousy. This is Holy Love jealousy.) “visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and fourth generations of those that hate Me,” If a man hates God and raises up his children to hate God, guess what? They will most likely hate God! Not only that, they’ll raise their children to do the same… and on it goes.

This isn’t a mystical curse… this is life. Monkey see, monkey do. The solution? Repent and follow God, and raise up your children in the way they should go.

Ezekiel 18 completely unravels the teaching of the generational curse. Let’s quickly look at just verses 19-23.

“Yet you say, ‘Why should the son not bear the guilt of the father?’ Because the son has done what is lawful and right, and has kept all My statutes and done them, he shall surely live.
The soul who sins shall die. The son shall not bear the guilt of the father, nor the father bear the guilt of the son. The righteousness of the righteous shall be upon himself, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon himself.
But if a wicked man turns from all his sins which he has committed, keeps all My statutes, and does what is lawful and right, he shall surely live; he shall not die.
None of the transgressions which he has committed shall be remembered against him; because of the righteousness which he has done, he shall live.
“Do I have any pleasure at all that the wicked should die?” says the Lord God, “and not that he should turn from his ways and live?”




I understand that this thread is supposed to be about prayer, but it seems that right in the middle of a thread on prayer there is this teaching about generational curses. I really do not see what one has to do with the other, but since the topic has ben brought up, I want to comment on it.




This is a common teaching about generational curses, and it includes a number of misconceptions about the nature of what these curses are.



Generational curses are very real, and very biblical.

The major verse that supports this has already been quoted:

"You shall have no other gods before Me.
"You shall not make for yourself a carved image--any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth;
you shall not bow down to them nor serve them. For I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate Me,
but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My commandments.
Exodus 20:3-6


This verse does show very clearly show that the sins of the father can and are passed down to the 3rd and the 4th generation.




Read the passage carefully, and you will see that the Lord first says that he will not tolerate any idol worship, and then says "For I, The Lord your God am I jealous God....". He is not at all stating the only reason "iniquity" would be "visited" is because of idol worship. Instead, he is saying that you better not mess around with idol worship," For I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate Me,
but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My commandments. ". The word "for" means "because". Don't worship idols, because God is a jealous God. He is not saying that idol worship is the only reason that a curse would be passed on, it is simply one reason, and that curses are passed on.



I have more to say on this subject, in particular what these caurses are and are not, etc., but I have to go eat dinner :) , so I'll come back to it later.













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Katydid
Sep 8th 2004, 03:49 AM
I believe there are generational consequences and this can relate to avoiding temptation.

I'll use my own family as an example.

My grandfather was an alcoholic. My mother was raised in a household full of chaos. As a result she ran away at 17 and had an illegitimate daughter...me.
Now the situation at home is what made her choose to leave, actually I think it took a lot of guts. She was tempted to have se@x and did so. This was her choice and hers alone.

Further down the line my mother becomes an alcoholic. My home was at times in chaos. At times great, but others chaos.

After I became an adult I marry and guess what, while I never became an alcoholic...I married one. This ended in divorce.

So we have:
generation 1...Alcoholic grandfather
generation 2....Alcoholic mother
generation 3...Alcoholic Husband
generation 4...my older children raised in a single parent home for a large part of their life.

Now I am a Christian. So was my grandmother and I praise God for putting her in my life. She and my Aunt taught me the love of God as a young child.

Now many would look at my family history as proof of a generational curse.
I look at it as a line of people who made a few bad decisions outside of God.

Were the sins of the father visited on the children to the 4th generation? Yes
My mother did what she was taught at home and I married what was familiar to me, and my children also reaped the consequences. But all along the way it was because of individuals living outside the will of God and giving in to temptaion....not a curse.

I Praise the Lord that everyone including my mother is alcohol free and that we are healing. My son has just came to the Lord. I would appreciate your prayers for my daughter and my mother.

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