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Jollyrogers

Sep 28th 2006, 10:59 PM

` ` ` ` ` ` ```` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` `c ` d ` e
e---------------------|----------------------|-------------8---10-\-12----|--10---8----------------------------
` ` ` ` ` ` ```` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` `g ` a
b---------------------|----------------------|---8---10-------------------|-----------10b11r10-----------------
` ` ` ` ` ` ```` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` c ` d ` e
g---------------------|-----------5---7-\-9--|----------------------------|------------------------------------
` ` ` ` ` ` ``` ` ` ` ` ` `g ` a
d---------------------|--5---7---------------|----------------------------|------------------------------------
` ` ` ` ` `` c ` d ` e
a-----------3---5-\-7-|----------------------|----------------------------|------------------------------------
` ` g ` a
e---3---5-------------|----------------------|----------------------------|------------------------------------
`
` `octave 1 ` ` ` ` ` | ` `octave 2 ` ` ` ` `|` ` ` ` octave 3` ` ` ` ` ` | ` ` `3 note ending
THis is a demonstration of the pentatonic moving thru 3 ovtaves. Likewise using this little lick here we can move
our starting point to the sixth string 3rd fret or second string 8th fret and use the same lick but one octave
higher or lower. Also it helped me to learn to move thru the octaves. Here is an example

e--------------------------------------------------------------------
b--------------------------------------------------------------------
g-------5--7--7\9-9-9--7\9-9-9--7\9-9-9--12---9--7--9b11---9p-7\5----
d-5--7-------------------------------------------------------------7-
a--------------------------------------------------------------------
e--------------------------------------------------------------------
e--------------------------------------------------------------------
b--------------------------------------------------------------------
g-----------5---7---7\8---7---5--------------------------------------
d--5---7---------------------------7---------------------------------
a--------------------------------------------------------------------
e--------------------------------------------------------------------

For an example here is the same thing tabbed out at the 3rd fret
e--------------------------------------------------------------------
b--------------------------------------------------------------------
g---------3--5--5\7-7-7-5\7-7-7-5\7-7-7--10--7--5--7b9---7p-5\3------
d--3---5---------------------------------------------------------5---
a--------------------------------------------------------------------
e--------------------------------------------------------------------
and the ending. this can be thrown in all kind of leads to end the lead:)
e---------------------------------------------------------------------
b---------------------------------------------------------------------
g-----------3---5---5\6---5---3---------------------------------------
d--3---5--------------------------5-----------------------------------
a---------------------------------------------------------------------
e---------------------------------------------------------------------

miepie

Sep 30th 2006, 10:00 PM

It looks very interesting...... :hmm:

Love you,
Mieke :kiss:

Jollyrogers

Sep 30th 2006, 11:16 PM

e--555--444--333p0--0----------0--3p0-------------------------------
b----------------------2bp0--0--0------------------------------------
g--------------------------------------------------------------------
d--------------------------------------------------------------------
a--------------------------------------------------------------------
e--------------------------------------------------------------------

Slug1

Sep 30th 2006, 11:19 PM

Jollyrogers

Sep 30th 2006, 11:28 PM

yea, I got tired of searching for it. but I was trying to write out something else and somehow it saved that instead:D

Here is the flute line from "Heard it in a love song" by the Marshal Tucker Band

e--10-------------------|-------------------------|
b-----12-10-12-10------|----------10----12---10-|
g-------------------11- |--7--9/11----11----11---|
d-----------------------|-------------------------|
a-----------------------|-------------------------|
e-----------------------|-------------------------|

e---------------|-------------|--------------------|
b--12-12-10-12-|-------------|------7-8-7---------|
g---------------|--11-11-7-9-|--7-9--------7------|
d---------------|-------------|---------------7---- |
a---------------|-------------|-------------------- |
e---------------|-------------|-------------------- |
http://bibleforums.net/forum/images/misc/progress.gif

Jollyrogers

Sep 30th 2006, 11:58 PM

That is pretty close to what is in this bok for guitar part 2. You have a book or did you find it online.

Do you have this part. 7h9p7 is a trill, you do several real quick hammer ons and pull offs before sliding towards the 1st fret and let it fade. It is done twice.

................................trill
e-----------------------------------------------------------
b-----------------------------------------------------------
g-----------------------------------------------------------
d--------------5---------------------------------------------
a---------------------(7h9p7)---7\-------------------------
e------5---7------------------------------------------------

Slug1

Oct 1st 2006, 12:04 AM

For what I'm practicing now I got online as a Guitar Pro file. That way I can hear it play.

This tab ya just posted, is it the beginning to MQ?

Jollyrogers

Oct 1st 2006, 12:12 AM

the very beginning, right after the 4 cow bells

Slug1

Oct 1st 2006, 12:17 AM

I play it just a little different.

E||-------------------------|------------------------|
B||-------------------------|------------------------|
G||-------------------------|------------------------|
D||--------------------5b---|------------------------|
A||-------------------------|--7~--0-----------------|
E||--------------5--7-------|-------------------------|

Jollyrogers

Oct 1st 2006, 12:19 AM

I wonder what someone who does not play the guitar will think if they see this thread?

Slug1

Oct 1st 2006, 12:24 AM

I was thinking the same thing... :rofl:

The next song I plan to learn is a Blues song called Hideaway.

Jollyrogers

Oct 1st 2006, 12:31 AM

how about wonderful tonight

e-------------------------|-------------------------|
b-------------------------|-------------------------|
g------14b16r14-12--14-|------14b16r14--12-----|
d-12--------------------- |--12-----------------14-|
a-------------------------|-------------------------|
e-------------------------|-------------------------|

e----------------------------------12------|
b--------------------------12--13-----15--|
g-----14b16r14--12--14-------------------|
d-12--------------------------------------- |
a-------------------------------------------|
e-------------------------------------------|

Slug1

Oct 1st 2006, 12:32 AM

how about wonderful tonight

Awesome song!!!!

Slug1

Oct 1st 2006, 12:40 AM

Here's the first few seconds of Hideaway. Hope it lines up correctly from this paste...

Gtr I
~
|---------------|--------------|---------------------------------|------------|
|---------------|--------------|---------------------------------|------------|
|--------9----9-|-11b13--------|---------9-11b13-(11)b13-11-9----|-9--11------|
|------9-9h11---|--------------|--9-9h11----------------------11-|------------|
|---------------|--------------|---------------------------------|------------|
|---------------|--------------|---------------------------------|------------|

A7
|-----------------------------|----------|---------------------------------|
|-----------------------------|----------|---------------------------------|
|------9------9------9------9-|-9--------|---------9-11b13-(11)b13-11-9----|
|-9h11---9h11---9h11---9h11---|----------|--9-9h11----------------------11-|
|-----------------------------|----------|---------------------------------|
|-----------------------------|----------|---------------------------------|

Jollyrogers

Oct 1st 2006, 01:39 AM

who sung hideaway??

Slug1

Oct 1st 2006, 01:41 AM

I have no idea. I found the tab on a Blues site and the tab I posted was from the version Eric Clapton did.

Jollyrogers

Oct 1st 2006, 02:29 AM

Hotel California, My version.

......Bm...............F#.......................A. .........................E7add9
e----------2--------------2----|----------------0---------------2----
b--------3--------------2------|--------------2---------------0------
g------4--------------3--------|-----------2----------------1--------
d----------4-----------------4-|-------------------2---------------0-
a----2----------2--4-----------|--------0-------------0--2----------
e-------------------------------|-2--0-------------------------------

.......G......................D................... ....Em
e-------------3--------------2----|-----------------0-----------
b-----------0--------------3------|---------------0-------------
g---------0--------------2--------|-------------0---------------
d---------------0---------------0-|--------------------2--------
a-----------------2---0-----------|----------2-----------2-----
e-0-2-3---------------------------|---2--0--------------------

....F#
e--------------2-----|--------------------------------------------
b-----------2--------|-----repeat from the beginning------------
g------2h3-----------|-----1 time either struming or picking-----
d-----------------4--|------each chord. 2nd time go to chorus---
a--4-----------------|------Chorus is G, D, Em, F#---------------
e--------------------|--------------------------------------------

..........the E7add9 chord
e---2---
b---0---
g---1---
d---0---
a---2---
e-------

Jollyrogers

Oct 3rd 2006, 12:13 AM

an excersise using the pentatonic scale

E----8p5----5---------------------------------------|
B---------8----8-5-8p5----5------------------------|
G------------------------7----7-5--7p5----5--7~---|
D----------------------------------------7-----------|
A----------------------------------------------------|
E----------------------------------------------------|

Jollyrogers

Oct 3rd 2006, 12:17 AM

E--8p10----8---------------------------------------|
B--------8----10-8-10p8---8-----------------------|
G-------------------------9---9--7--9p7-5-7p5-----|
D------------------------------------------------7---|
A----------------------------------------------------|
E----------------------------------------------------|

And of course the ending
e---------------------------------------|
b---------------------------------------|
g-----------5---7---7\8---7---5-------|
d--5---7---------------------------7---|
a---------------------------------------|
e---------------------------------------|

Slug1

Oct 3rd 2006, 12:21 AM

Here's what I'm working on...

------------------------|
-------------------19b--|
------------------------|
------------------------|
------------------------|
------------------------|

-----19--------------------------|-------------------------------|
--L------19b--19--17~----------|-------------17--19~----17-----|
-------------------------18--16--|-----16--18--------------------|
---------------------------------|-------------------------------|
---------------------------------|-------------------------------|
---------------------------------|-------------------------------|

----------------------------------|-----21-------------------------|
---------17--19--17~----17--19b--|--L----20--19--17~--------17--|
--16--18--------------------------|------------------------18------|
----------------------------------|--------------------------------|
----------------------------------|--------------------------------|
----------------------------------|--------------------------------|

---------------------------------|--------------------------|
--20p-------17~---17-----------|--------------------------|
---------------------------------|-----9--9-----------------|
---------------------------------|-----9--9-----------------|
---------------------------------|-----7--7--0--5~----7-----|
---------------------------------|--------------------------|

Jollyrogers

Oct 3rd 2006, 01:15 AM

here is what I have for it if you want to compare.

This is guitar part 2
E---------|-19-----------------------|-----------------------|
B-19b21-|----19b21-19-17~~-------|--------17--19~~-17-|
G---------|--------------------18-16-|-16-18----------------|
D---------|---------------------------|-----------------------|
A---------|---------------------------|-----------------------|
E---------|---------------------------|-----------------------|
.............................................(hold bend to ........here and gradual release)
E--------------------------------|--19---------------------------|
B---------17-19-17~~17-19b21hold-19sb------19--17~~---17-|
G-16-18-------------------------|--------------------------18---|
D--------------------------------|--------------------------------|
A--------------------------------|--------------------------------|
E--------------------------------|--------------------------------|
........(~~= rapid small bending and releasing of string).....(sb=still bend)

this is guitar part 1
break 1 here is played at the same sime as break 1 of the above break 2=break 2 above ect
E----------------|--------------------|-------------------|
B--rest on bar 1-|--------------------|-------------------|
G----------------|--------------------|-------------------|
D----------------|---7\9---9--9--9--|---9--9----7-------|
A----------------|---7\9---9--9--9--|---9----9-----9p0-|
E----------------|---5\7---7--7--7--|---7---------------|

E-------------------|----------------------|
B-------------------|----------------------|
G-------------------|----------------------|
D--5\7---7--7--7\-|---------7-----5b6---|
A--5\7---7--7--7\-|------------7---------|
E--3\5---5--5--5\-|---5------------------|

Jollyrogers

Oct 3rd 2006, 01:20 AM

http://www.amazon.com/Southern-Guitar-Classics-Leonard-Corp/dp/0793582792/sr=8-1/qid=1159838401/ref=sr_1_1/104-8422157-3147142?ie=UTF8&s=books

here is the book I am pulling from.

Slug1

Oct 13th 2006, 06:12 PM

Practiced the intro to Swing today...

e----------------------------------------------------------|
b----------------------------------------------------------|
g----------------------------------------------------------|
d--4-0-0-5-0-0-7-0-0-5-0-4-0-5-0-0-4-0-0-5-0-0-6b~~~--|
a----------------------------------------------------------|
E----------------------------------------------------------|

e--------------------------------------------------------|
b--------------------------------------------------------|
g--------------------------------------------------------|
d--0-0-4-0-0-5-0-0-7-0-0-5-0-4-0-5-0-0-4-0-0------0---|
a-----------------------------------------------4~~-----|
----------------------------------------------------------|

TrustingFollower

Oct 14th 2006, 01:23 AM

Slug1

Oct 14th 2006, 01:50 AM

ok guys I just started with the guitar not long ago and haven't learned tab very well yet. Can you guys explain some of this stuff for me. Another thing is are these tabs for electric or can they be played on acustic as well, since I play acustic. Other than that what advice do you give to a beginner like me?

The best way to learn tab is to search Reading Guitar Tabs on any search engine. About.com is a good place to check out guitar help.... here's a start from the site, http://guitar.about.com/library/blguitarlessonarchive.htm?terms=Guitar

As for learning tabs or learning a song from tabs, ya have to know the song first. All tabs do is show you where to place fingers on the fretboard, what strings are involved but not any tempo, speed, or strumming pattern.

As for tips: Learn the main chords A, B, C, D, E, F, and G. There are a few other main ones but these are a good base. Once these are nearly mastered work on Barre Chords (I need to do this myself), then start scales to gain finger dexterity and speed. If you plan on playing just chords (rythym) then scales may not be as important. Picking scales is more toward the lead style of playing.

Any tab can be for both electric or acustic but when ya get into tapping, hammer on's and off's it's more an electric style of playing but can be done on an acustic with practice. Pulloff's are easy to play on both but not hammer on's and definately not tapping.

OK, now that I may have spoke in half a language that may have you scratching your head... I hope this helped :lol:

stephenhwrth

Oct 15th 2006, 02:24 AM

Sorry for jumping in on your thread, JollyRogers. I just wanted to test my ability to attach links in my posts, and didn't think it was worth starting a new thread.

I will get out of your way very soon. Thanks.

Link to metacrawler (http://www.metacrawler.com/) search engine

Jollyrogers

Oct 17th 2006, 09:06 PM

Thatrs fine, maybe we should just start up a guitar players thread instead of using this temporary thread

TrustingFollower

Oct 17th 2006, 10:53 PM

Thats fine, maybe we should just start up a guitar players thread instead of using this temporary thread
I was thinking the same thing. Now that slug1 is a mod he could make it a sticky here too.

skypair

Oct 20th 2006, 01:36 PM

Newbie testing in progress -- please keep out :lol:

Jollyrogers

Oct 30th 2006, 07:59 AM

I haven't been able to type anything in awhile so I thought I would put this in real quick. Here is a good excersise in Em pentatonic mixed with a catchy rif in the E major scale. If it sounds familiar it is also Stevie Ray's intro to "Pride N' Joy". Enjoy:D

....................................1/4 bends
E-----5-5-5-5-5-5--8--8--8---8--8---8--8------5-5-5-5-5-5-5--|
B--3\5-5-5-5-5-5--7b-7b-7b-7b-7b-7b-7b---3\5-5-5-5-5-5-5--|
G------------------------------------------------------------------|
D------------------------------------------------------------------|
A------------------------------------------------------------------|
E------------------------------------------------------------------|

..........bend hold and gradually release back to the 2nd fret
E-------------------------------------------------------------------|
B--------------------------------------------------- ---2-----------|
G----2b4 hold 4r2----------------------------------- ---2--- -2-- ---|
D------------------0h2--(2)-------------2-------------2--- -2-----|
A------------------------(2)------2--4------------2---0---- -1-----|
E-------------------------0--2/3-------------2/3------------0-----|

E--------------------------------------------------------------------|
B---------------------------------2p0--2----------------------------|
G---------------------------------2p0--2--------------2-------------|
D-------------------2-------------2p0--2--------2--4----------2----|
A------------2--4-----------2----0-----0---2/3-----------2/3------|
E-----2/3-------------2/3-------------------------------------------|

E--------------------------------------------------------------------|
B---2p0--------------------------- --------2p0---------3----3----3-|
G---2p0----- 2-----------------------------2p0-----3/4--3/4-3/4--|
D---2p0----- 2------------------2----------2p0---------------------|
A---0--------1----------2---4------ ----2--0------------------ -----|
E------------ 0----2/3-------------2/3----------------------- ------|

E-------------------------------------------------- -----------|
B----------------------------------------------------- --------|
G----2p0---------------------------------------------- -------|
D----------2----------0-1-2----------------------------------|
A-------------0-2-2----------2-1-0----0-1p0-------- --------|
E-----------------------------------------------3-------------|

E-----------------------------------------------------------------|
B-------3------3----3--------------------------------------------|
G---3/4---3/4--3/4- ---2p0-------------------------------------|
D------------------------------2----------------------------------|
A---------------------------------0--2--2---------0--1--2--------|
E-------------------------------------------0--3------------------|

Jollyrogers

Nov 7th 2006, 12:45 AM

this thread is getting quiet

Slug1

Nov 7th 2006, 12:49 AM

BOOM, BOOM

OUT GO THE LIGHTS!!!

How's that for making some noise! :P

Jollyrogers

Nov 12th 2006, 04:08 AM

Did you ever try "Pride N' Joy"??

Slug1

Nov 12th 2006, 01:01 PM

Did you ever try "Pride N' Joy"??

Not yet, busy trying to learn to much right now :rolleyes:

Jollyrogers

Nov 23rd 2006, 02:33 AM

I guess next I should tab out some Christmas music huh. Since this thread is still here

TrustingFollower

Nov 23rd 2006, 05:57 PM

I guess next I should tab out some Christmas music huh. Since this thread is still here

That would be cool.

Slug1

Nov 30th 2006, 12:51 AM

I found this on the site listing in the tab. I like this one the best and it was very easy to learn and play.

Christian Guitar Resources - Praise Tabs

E |-0--2--0--|-----|--0--2--0--|-----|--7-----7--|--4-----|--5-----5--|--0-----|-
B |----------|--2--|-----------|--2--|-----------|--------|-----------|--------|-
G |----------|-----|-----------|-----|-----------|--------|-----------|--------|-
D |----------|-----|-----------|-----|-----------|--------|-----------|--------|-
A |-0--------|--0--|--0--------|--0--|-----------|--------|--0--------|--0-----|-
E |----------|-----|-----------|-----|--0--------|--0-----|-----------|--------|-
Silent Night, Holy Night All Is Calm, All Is Bright
Silent Night, Holy Night She-perds Quake At The Sight

E |-2--2--|--5--4--2--|--0--2--0--|-----|--2--2--|--5--4--2--|--0--2--0--|-----|-
B |-------|-----------|-----------|--2--|--------|-----------|-----------|--2--|-
G |-------|-----------|-----------|-----|--------|-----------|-----------|-----|-
D |-0-----|--0--------|-----------|-----|--0-----|--0--------|-----------|-----|-
A |-------|-----------|--0--------|--0--|--------|-----------|--0--------|--0--|-
E |-------|-----------|-----------|-----|--------|-----------|-----------|-----|-
Round yon Vir-gin Moth-er And Child Ho-ly In-fant So Ten-der And Mild
Glo-ry Streams From Heaven A-far-- Heavenly Hosts Sing Al-le- leu- lia

E |-7-----7--|--10-7--4--|--5--|--9--|--5--0-----|--0--------|----
B |----------|-----------|-----|-----|--------2--|-----3--0--|----
G |----------|-----------|-----|-----|-----------|-----------|--2-
D |----------|-----------|-----|-----|-----------|-----------|----
A |----------|-----------|--0--|--0--|--0--------|-----------|--0-
E |-0--------|--0--------|-----|-----|-----------|--0--------|----
Sleep In Heavenly Peace---- Sle-ep In Heavenly Peace
Christ The Saviour Is Born----- Christ The Saviour Is Born

edit: I'll email the actual tab text file to anyone that PM's me their addy. I see that the post alignment is slightly off and it's real hard to fix.

Jollyrogers

Dec 1st 2006, 12:45 AM

I guess you are saying I am not tabbing christmas music fast enough, :D :D

I wish I had the tab for this though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47rugbbocp8&mode=related&search=

Malachi

Dec 7th 2006, 07:36 PM

e--------------------------------------------------------------------
b--------------------------------------------------------------------
g-----------5---7\9-9--7\9-9--7\9-9---12--9--7--9b11---9p-7\5--------
d--5---7----------------------------------------------------------7--
a--------------------------------------------------------------------
e--------------------------------------------------------------------
---------------------------------------------------------------------

asdfadfasdfadf

e---------------------------------------------------------------------
b---------------------------------------------------------------------
g-----------5---7---7\8---7---5---------------------------------------
d--5---7---------------------------7----------------------------------
a---------------------------------------------------------------------
e---------------------------------------------------------------------

asdfasdfasdffasdf

Jollyrogers

Feb 22nd 2007, 06:21 AM

e---5---7-8-7-5---5-----------------------------------------------------------
b----------------8-------8--6--5---5--6--5--------5----------5------4---4--
g------------------------------------------------7-------7---5----5-----5-----
d-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
a-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
e-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

e---------------------------------------------------------------------
b--------------------------5-------------------------------------------
g--5-----------------------5------------------------------------------
d--------7----6-----5-----5-------------------------------------------
a---------------------------------------------------------------------
e---------------------------------------------------------------------:idea:

Jollyrogers

Feb 23rd 2007, 08:43 PM

Note to self, do not listen to Bluesville (XM Channel 74) without guitar in the truck
:B :B :B :B :B :B :B :B :B :B :B :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

dirtball

Mar 31st 2007, 10:48 PM

I am making this thread because I have noticed that their are numerous people on this board that play an instrument and I thought that it would be cool to have a place where musicians could share ideas and talk about music stuff.

ChristsCourage

Apr 1st 2007, 01:45 AM

I don't exactly play an instrument, yet, but I will soon. Does anybody have any recommendations on what kind of keyboard to get? I want one that's not too expensive, and has all 88 keys? Thanks. And, if you happen to have a pic, that would be great too.:hug: :hug:

dirtball

Apr 1st 2007, 01:51 AM

I would suggest trying

www.musiciansfriend.com (http://www.musiciansfriend.com)

and maybe www.guitarcenter.com (http://www.guitarcenter.com). Guitar center has a HUGE sale going on. They have got stuff at insane discounts like 50% off!:eek:

TrustingFollower

Apr 9th 2007, 10:27 PM

Slug1, can you play like this guy? Have you see this one before?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=QjA5faZF1A8

corijoysdad

Apr 9th 2007, 10:35 PM

I used to play like this.........

......then the alarm went off and I woke up.

Saved7

Apr 9th 2007, 10:47 PM

Slug1, can you play like this guy? Have you see this one before?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=QjA5faZF1A8

Wow!!!:o

Regular prodigy there!!!! Bet Hendrix would've felt threatened by this one. Considering I haven't heard much of Jimi's stuff, I'm gonna say this kid is better than Jimi Hendrix.

cbalke

Apr 9th 2007, 11:14 PM

i saw that a year or so ago. turns out that was like a 15 year old kid. someone has since 'discovered' him and last i heard he's working on being developed and making some serious cash.

TrustingFollower

Apr 10th 2007, 12:10 AM

I know this is old, but my kids were watching this today and I thought I would see if slug has seen it yet.

Jollyrogers

Apr 10th 2007, 12:31 AM

It has a Yangway Malstein flavor to it. I know I did not spell that right but search for some of his teaching vids.

Here is one I would like to learn, Demonstrated by Paul Gilbert, lead guitar player if Mr Big

http://youtube.com/watch?v=n8h0FcxhXvM

he has some really good teaching videos out also

Saved7

Apr 10th 2007, 12:31 AM

I didn't even know that Slug played. Have you ever heard his stuff? :confused

Jollyrogers

Apr 10th 2007, 12:44 AM

Here is some of his teaching vidson youtube

http://youtube.com/watch?v=YGHxR0yfQCc

http://youtube.com/watch?v=IjvXvctcMPk Check out the guitar here

http://youtube.com/watch?v=nb_0fQwtwgo on sweep picking\ arpegios

http://youtube.com/watch?v=_1eLsq864bo fast picking licks, this will hurt you

http://youtube.com/watch?v=TGsxjXpFgy0

Slug1

Apr 10th 2007, 12:53 AM

I might be able to play that song, that well after 6 months of round the clock practice :P

Slug1

Apr 10th 2007, 12:54 AM

I got my Stealthplug today :pp

So now I'll be practicing allot more.

TrustingFollower

Apr 10th 2007, 01:08 AM

Jollyrogers that guy is amazing. Thanks for sharing.

TrustingFollower

Apr 10th 2007, 01:08 AM

Have you had a chance to try out the Stealthplug yet?

Slug1

Apr 10th 2007, 01:11 AM

Nope, 24 is on right now so the box is on the floor :P

Quickened

Apr 10th 2007, 01:13 AM

Hey slug can you play this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzLiNf0owwk) (listen for the coin sound!)

TrustingFollower

Apr 10th 2007, 01:16 AM

Hey slug can you play this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzLiNf0owwk) (listen for the coin sound!)
Be careful you wouldn't want this post reported.:lol:

Slug1

Apr 10th 2007, 01:16 AM

Don't think I'd even want to play that one :rofl:

dirtball

Apr 10th 2007, 01:17 AM

That guy is insanely good.:eek: I wish that I could play that good. :rolleyes: That secuond to last one is amazing.

Quickened

Apr 10th 2007, 01:19 AM

Be careful you wouldn't want this post reported.:lol:

I circumvented the rules to make for a nice surprise ;)

*runs from a 20 point infraction*

:lol:

karenoka27

Apr 10th 2007, 01:19 AM

that's the best canon in d version i've ever heard.

dirtball

Apr 10th 2007, 01:27 AM

Does Paul Gilburt have his own band or witch one is he in? I have got to get some of his stuff.

cbalke

Apr 10th 2007, 01:34 AM

Hey slug can you play this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzLiNf0owwk) (listen for the coin sound!)

hehhehe - i saw that one i think the same day i saw the one from the OP. that's just absolutely disgustingly good. talent comparable to tiger woods or wayne gretzky...just pure art with the talent God's given them.

Slug1

Apr 10th 2007, 01:42 AM

This is more my speed for playing a guitar and the style I like to play. Even this takes me time to practice cause I have NO natural talent :rolleyes:

This vid is a blues lesson on guitar: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7BgOkItYfg

Slug1

Apr 10th 2007, 11:39 AM

Well, 2 thumbs up for the Stealthplug http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/36/36_1_11.gif http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/36/36_1_11.gif

I loaded the main software and the sound kept popping and I thought it was a settings problem but I then immediately downloaded the updates and after that it was awesome.

I only have 1 nagging complaint but I can get around it... because it only works through headphones or an external set of speakers all those cables get in the way sometimes :lol:

Today I'm gonna check out the other 3 programs to see if I want to install them or not.

Jollyrogers

Apr 10th 2007, 11:42 PM

Does Paul Gilburt have his own band or witch one is he in? I have got to get some of his stuff.

He has been in 2 bands that I know of, Racer X and Mr Big

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mr._Big_(band)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racer_X_%28band%29

dirtball

Apr 11th 2007, 12:16 AM

Thanks JR. I might have to do some looking around for his stuff.

Jollyrogers

Apr 11th 2007, 12:33 AM

Check this guy out too Yngwie Malmsteen Prepare to feel some pain, he hurts my fingers just watching him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dkcgdi_Lp7Y

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dao8DMnNyo&NR=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVsZT...related&search (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVsZTZHgHtY&mode=related&search)=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyMX-aEegI8 <--check this one out first
http://bibleforums.net/forum/images/misc/progress.gif

Jollyrogers

Apr 16th 2007, 03:00 PM

(E) Lydian
-----------------------------0-1-3-1-0----------------------------
-----------------------0-1-3-----------3-1-0----------------------
-------------------0-2-----------------------2-0------------------
-------------0-2-3-------------------------------3-2-0------------
-------0-2-3-------------------------------------------3-2-0------
-0-1-3-------------------------------------------------------3-1-0

open--1----2----3----4
--E--|--F-|-----|--G--|-
--B--|--C*|-----|--D--|-
--G--|----|--A--|-----|-
--D--|----|--E--|--F--|-
--A--|----|--B--|--C*-|-
--E--|--F-|-----|--G--|-
(F) Phlygian
-----------------------------1-3-5-3-1---------------------
-------------------------3-5----------5-3-------------------
-------------------2-4-5------------------5-4-2----------------
-------------2-3-5------------------------------5-3-2---------
-------2-3-5------------------------------------------5-3-2---
-1-3-5------------------------------------------------------5-3-1-

--1---2---3---4---5
--F-|---|-G-|---|--A-
----|---|-D-|---|--E-
----|-A-|---|-B-|--C*
----|-E-|-F-|---|--G-
----|-B-|-C*|---|--D-
--F-|---|-G-|---|--A-
(G) Mixalodian
------------------------------3-5-7-5-3-------------------------------------
--------------------------5-6-----------6-5--------------------------------
--------------------4-5-7-------------------7-5-4-----------------------------
--------------3-5-7-------------------------------7-5-3-----------------------
--------3-5-7-------------------------------------------7-5-3-----------------
--3-5-7-------------------------------------------------------7-5-3-----------

--3----4----5---6-----7 (fret number)
--G--|----|--A|-----|-B--
-----|----|----|-E--|-F--
-----|--B-|--C-|----|-D--
--F--|----|--G-|----|-A--
--C--|----|--D-|----|-E--
--G--|----|--A-|----|-B--

(A) Aeolian
------------------------------5-7-8-7-5--------------------------------------------
------------------------5-6-8-----------8-6-5-----------------------------------------
------------------4-5-7-----------------------7-5-4---------------------------------
--------------5-7-----------------------------------7-5----------------------------
--------5-7-8-------------------------------------------8-7-5------------------------
--5-7-8-------------------------------------------------------8-7-5------------------

--4---5----6-----7------8-(Fret numbers)
----|--A-|----|--B---|--C--
----|--E-|--F-|------|--G--
--B-|--C-|----|--D---|-----
----|--G-|----|--A---|------
----|--D-|----|--E---|--F---
----|--A-|----|--B---|--C---

(B) Locrain
-----------------------------------7-8-10-8-7------------------------------------------
------------------------------8-10------------10-8------------------------------------
-----------------------7-9-10----------------------10-9-7-------------------------------
----------------7-9-10------------------------------------10-9-7-------------------------
---------7-8-10--------------------------------------------------10-8-7-------------------
--7-8-10----------------------------------------------------------------10-8-7--------------

(C) Ionian
----------------------------------------8-10-12-10-8----------------------------------------
----------------------------------10-12--------------12-10----------------------------------
--------------------------9-10-12--------------------------12-10-9--------------------------
------------------9-10-12------------------------------------------12-10-9------------------
----------8-10-12----------------------------------------------------------12-10-8----------
--8-10-12--------------------------------------------------------------------------12-10-8--

(D) Dorian
-----------------------------------------10-12-13-12-10--------------------------------------------
--------------------------------10-12-13----------------13-12-10-----------------------------------
------------------------9-10-12----------------------------------12-10-9---------------------------
----------------9-10-12--------------------------------------------------12-10-9-------------------
----------10-12------------------------------------------------------------------12-10-------------
-10-12-13------------------------------------------------------------------------------13-12-10----

Jollyrogers

Apr 16th 2007, 03:02 PM

Here is the excersises I am wouking on. It really helps limber up the fingers and build up the speed. I will post the rest when I have a chance

http://bibleforums.net/forum/showthread.php?p=1229937#post1229937

Jollyrogers

Apr 16th 2007, 03:09 PM

This is the major modal scales in the key of C. Pay attention to the form. The form or pattern will stay the same, the location will just change with the key. For example the Aolean scale pattern starts at the 5th fret for the key of C but if we change to the Key of G it start at the open or 12th fret.

I start at the bottom of the guitar and work thru each pattern 1 time, then move up to the next note on the 6th string and start the next patern. I continue up to the 17th fret (0=12, 1=13, 3=15, 5=17) and then work back down to the neck. I also do what I call "Double Dutching" the pattern. I will post that next chance I get.

Let me know what you think

Slug1

Apr 16th 2007, 03:15 PM

It's a good workout. Much more strict and structured then what I do, which is probably why I suck :lol:

Jollyrogers

Apr 16th 2007, 03:24 PM

I try to do at least 5 minutes of this every day. After 6 months of no Axetion, my speed is down alot. This helps bring my speed and coordination back up

Jollyrogers

Apr 16th 2007, 03:38 PM

This is where you take one of the fore mention scales and do this to it. This is the D Dorian one starting at the 10th fret

---------------------------------------------------------------------
---------------------------------------------------------------------
---------------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------------------------9---9---10-9-10--12-10-12
--------------------10-----10--12-10-12---12-----------------------
12-10-12--13-12-13----13-------------------------------------------

--------------------------------------------------------10---10--
-------------------------10------12-10-12---13-12-13-----13----
-9----9--10-12-10---12-----12-----------------------------------
---12------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------------------------------------------------

12-10-12---13-12-12--slide to 14.
----------------------------------
---------------------------------
------------------------------------
------------------------------------
------------------------------------

Then reverse it and work from the 14 on the 1st string to the 6th string 10th fret. It sounds cool when you start to get it down

Mass

Apr 16th 2007, 09:18 PM

From one guitarist to another...thank you for posting that!!!!!!!!!!!!;)

Slug1

Apr 16th 2007, 09:20 PM

Hey Mass, Jolly has this one also: http://bibleforums.org/forum/showthread.php?t=64977

Mass

Apr 16th 2007, 09:29 PM

Hey Mass, Jolly has this one also: http://bibleforums.org/forum/showthread.php?t=64977

Thank you for that link!
I saved it to favorites. It's nice to see some other guitarists here on this forum.
By all means, share with me your playing style, and gear!

Take care of yourself and God Bless,
Mass

dirtball

Apr 16th 2007, 10:07 PM

So scales help with finger speed I take it.

Slug1

Apr 16th 2007, 10:12 PM

Yes! The more familiar you are with those patterns the moment you decide to improvise then you won't even need to look, just let your fingers move across the fretboard and let your ears tell you if it sounds good.

dirtball

Apr 16th 2007, 10:16 PM

I have just been working on a cupple of tabs. Is that the wrong way to learn?

Slug1

Apr 16th 2007, 10:19 PM

Learning tabs to songs a good but to develop a "base" of guitar playing then you practice the basics as well. Scales, chords, theory etc.

I can play allot of guitar licks and a few songs due to tab practicing but can I pick up a guitar and make music... nope!

I want to make music so I practice the basics.

Jollyrogers

Apr 17th 2007, 12:14 AM

That is fine, I started that way. What I noticed is when I learned some scales and then went back to tab, I picked it up alot faster. Scales are like a road map to where all the notes are on the fretboard. A road map shows all the ways to get to a town, it is up to you how you get there.
It will also limber your fingers up and really build up some speed.

dirtball

Apr 17th 2007, 12:17 AM

Speed is what I need.

Jollyrogers

Apr 17th 2007, 12:23 AM

Ya know, I originally posted this stuff in Just Testing because I did not see how it contributed to the the general forum. I also did not realise how many guitar players there are here. Would there be any objections to a guitar thread?? We could move what I have already posted and add to it.:hmm:

Opinions??

dirtball

Apr 17th 2007, 12:29 AM

I started a thread in Anything Goes that is called 'A thread for musicians". Should I go dig it up?

Jollyrogers

Apr 17th 2007, 12:35 AM

perhaps you should
:P

Slug1

Apr 17th 2007, 12:37 AM

Yeah, I can merge all the 3 threads into one. The order of all the posting might be messed up but that's the music biz... messed up :lol:

dirtball

Apr 17th 2007, 12:40 AM

I just PM'ed Jolly with a link. I will send it to you too slug.

Slug1

Apr 17th 2007, 12:46 AM

So how to do this? All into this thread here or all under Dirtball's thread?

Once done all 4 threads will be combined.

Jollyrogers

Apr 17th 2007, 12:52 AM

thats fine. The scales I posted today can stand on there own. Dirtball do you have the pentatonics down??

Slug1

Apr 17th 2007, 12:56 AM

I'll get to it after 24 which starts in about 5 minutes.

dirtball

Apr 17th 2007, 01:05 AM

I think that it would be more apropriate in my thread since it is for talking about ideas and music.

TrustingFollower

Apr 17th 2007, 01:10 AM

Slug put it in the lighter side. We can stickey it that way. Guitar is just for fun anyway.

My :2cents:

Jollyrogers

Apr 17th 2007, 01:45 AM

These are the 5 patterns of the pentatonic (5 note) scale. It is shown here in the A minor
position. I tabbed it out, then put a diagram to show what it loks like on the fretboard.
Almost all rock lead will use this pattern in some way. Concentrate on learning the pattern
more than the location. Take pattern 1for instance If we are playing a song in A minor or C major
we would play it as tabbed, but if we change to the key of G or E minor, we would play the same
pattern but starting at the open or 12th fret. likewise pattern 2 would follow at the 3rd or
15th fret in G major (E minor). In rock and blues it is very common to play a minor key against
a major key. For instance we would play our lead out of the scale as tabbed below (A minor) against
an A major (A, D, E major chords/power chords). Also at the 12th fret or open E minor would be
played against E Major (E, A, B major/power chords) as is done in Stevie Ray Vaughan's song Pride n' Joy

Pattern 1 tab
-----------------------5-8|--0--|----|-----|--0--|
-------------------5-8----|--0--|----|-----|--0--|
---------------5-7--------|--0--|----|--0--|-----|
-----------5-7------------|--0--|----|--0--|-----|
-------5-7----------------|--0--|----|--0--|-----|
---5-8--------------------|--0--|----|-----|--0--|

pattern 2
-------------------------8-10-|----|--0--|-----|--0--|
--------------------8-10------|----|--0--|-----|--0--|
----------------7-9-----------|--0-|-----|--0--|-----|
-----------7-10---------------|--0-|-----|-----|--0--|
------7-10--------------------|--0-|-----|-----|--0--|
-8-10-------------------------|----|--0--|-----|--0--|

pattern 3
------------------------------10-12-|-----|--0--|----|--0--|-----|
------------------------10-13-------|-----|--0--|----|-----|--0--|
-------------------9-12-------------|--0--|-----|----|--0--|-----|
-------------10-12------------------|-----|--0--|----|--0--|-----|
-------10-12------------------------|-----|--0--|----|--0--|-----|
-10-12------------------------------|-----|--0--|----|--0--|-----|

pattern 4, may be played open in Am
-------------------------------12-15-|--0--|-----|-----|--0--|
-------------------------13-15-------|-----|--0--|-----|--0--|
-------------------12-14-------------|--0--|-----|--0--|-----|
-------------12-14-------------------|--0--|-----|--0--|-----|
-------12-15-------------------------|--0--|-----|-----|--0--|
-12-15-------------------------------|--0--|-----|-----|--0--|

pattern 5, may be played starting at the 3rd fret also in Am
-------------------------------15-17-|-----|--0--|-----|--0--|
-------------------------15-17-------|-----|--0--|-----|--0--|
-------------------14-17-------------|--0--|-----|-----|--0--|
-------------14-17-------------------|--0--|-----|-----|--0--|
-------15-17-------------------------|-----|--0--|-----|--0--|
-15-17-------------------------------|-----|--0--|-----|--0--|

dirtball

Apr 17th 2007, 01:53 AM

I am going to have to learn the different keys and what they mean. I will figure it out when I get that far and start to get lessons with someone.

Jollyrogers

Apr 17th 2007, 01:56 AM

Stevie Ray's intro to "Pride N' Joy". An excersise in E minor Pentatonics. Note how he is moving thru the E minor pentatonics in the open opsition and yet he is playing in E major (E A B chords). This is extreemly common in Blues and Rock.

....................................1/4 bends
E-----5-5-5-5-5-5--8--8--8---8--8---8--8------5-5-5-5-5-5-5--|
B--3\5-5-5-5-5-5--7b-7b-7b-7b-7b-7b-7b---3\5-5-5-5-5-5-5--|
G------------------------------------------------------------------|
D------------------------------------------------------------------|
A------------------------------------------------------------------|
E------------------------------------------------------------------|

---------------------------E major----------------------A----E
..........bend hold and gradually release back to the 2nd fret
E-------------------------------------------------------------------|
B--------------------------------------------------- ---2-----------|
G----2b4 hold 4r2----------------------------------- ---2--- -2-- ---|
D------------------0h2--(2)-------------2-------------2--- -2-----|
A------------------------(2)------2--4------------2---0---- -1-----|
E-------------------------0--2/3-------------2/3------------0-----|

-----------------------------------A ----E
E--------------------------------------------------------------------|
B---------------------------------2p0--2----------------------------|
G---------------------------------2p0--2--------------2-------------|
D-------------------2-------------2p0--2--------2--4----------2----|
A------------2--4-----------2----0-----0---2/3-----------2/3------|
E-----2/3-------------2/3-------------------------------------------|

-----A--------E-----------------------------A
E--------------------------------------------------------------------|
B---2p0--------------------------- --------2p0---------3----3----3-|
G---2p0----- 2-----------------------------2p0-----3/4--3/4-3/4--|
D---2p0----- 2------------------2----------2p0---------------------|
A---0--------1----------2---4------ ----2--0------------------ -----|
E------------ 0----2/3-------------2/3----------------------- ------|

E-------------------------------------------------- -----------|
B----------------------------------------------------- --------|
G----2p0---------------------------------------------- -------|
D----------2----------0-1-2----------------------------------|
A-------------0-2-2----------2-1-0----0-1p0-------- --------|
E-----------------------------------------------3-------------|

E-----------------------------------------------------------------|
B-------3------3----3--------------------------------------------|
G---3/4---3/4--3/4- ---2p0-------------------------------------|
D------------------------------2----------------------------------|
A---------------------------------0--2--2---------0--1--2--------|
E-------------------------------------------0--3------------------|

Jollyrogers

Apr 17th 2007, 02:00 AM

I am going to have to learn the different keys and what they mean. I will figure it out when I get that far and start to get lessons with someone.

I would get familiar with them, you will use them to death. I will try to go over keys but I am waiting on Slug to combine the threads:D

Slug1

Apr 17th 2007, 02:07 AM

OK, all is now combined... BUMP!

Jollyrogers

Apr 17th 2007, 04:52 PM

These will be shown in A minor pentatonic. they are great excersises and you will use them indefinately thru your playing. I will add more as I get time. Make sure you use a back and forth motion of the pick.

bridge the 2 strings at the 5th fret and hammer on the 3rd at the 7th fret
----------------------------|
------5----5----5---5----5-|catch this note on the up stroke
--5h7--5h7--5h7-5h7-5h7---|make sure you hit this note on the down stroke
----------------------------|
----------------------------|

you can also reverse it
----------------------|
-----5----5----5---5-| repeat as long as needed
-7p5--7p5--7p5-7p5--|
----------------------|
----------------------|
----------------------|

or
-----------------|
-----------------|
-7p5--7p5--7p5--|
-----7----7----7-|
-----------------|
-----------------|

let me use this one in a improv for a sec
-----------------|--------------------------------------|
-----------------|--------------------------------------|
-7p5--7p5--7p5--|--5-7b9r7---5------------------------|
-----7----7----7-|---------------7-5-----5-7\8-7-5-----|
-----------------|--------------------5-7-----------7~-|
-----------------|--------------------------------------|

7b9r7= 7 bend till it sounds like it is fretted at the 9th fret, then gradually release (r) back down to the 7th.
7~ = do micro bends or vibrate the string while fretted to bring emphasis to the note.

Jollyrogers

Apr 17th 2007, 05:03 PM

Here is a few more. It is good to practise these as you will see them. they will also help build speed and technique

bridge both strings on the 8th fret with 1st finger

-------10p8-----10p8-----10p8| repeat
--10p8-----10p8-----10p8-----|
-------------------------------|
-------------------------------|
-------------------------------|
-------------------------------|

-10p8-12p8-10p8-12p8-10p8-12p8--| repeat as desired
-----------------------------------|
-----------------------------------|
-----------------------------------|
-----------------------------------|
-----------------------------------|

-10p8-12p8------10p8-12p8------| repeat
------------10p8-----------10p8-|
---------------------------------|
---------------------------------|
---------------------------------|
---------------------------------|

Jollyrogers

Apr 17th 2007, 05:58 PM

Before I go any furthur, Here is a map of where the notes are on the fretboard in standard tuning (440 tuning or concert pitch).

o---1--2---3---4---5---6---7---8--9---10-11--12 repeat
E-|-F-|---|-G-|---|-A-|---|-B-|-C-|---|-D-|---|-E-|
B-|-C-|---|-D-|---|-E-|-F-|---|-G-|---|-A-|---|-B-|
G-|---|-A-|---|-B-|-C-|---|-D-|---|-E-|-F-|---|-G-|
D-|---|-E-|-F-|---|-G-|---|-A-|---|-B-|-C-|---|-D-|
A-|---|-B-|-C-|---|-D-|---|-E-|-F-|---|-G-|---|-A-|
E-|-F-|---|-G-|---|-A-|---|-B-|-C-|---|-D-|---|-E-|

If you notice, this follows my scales as posted earlier in this thread
http://bibleforums.net/forum/showpost.php?p=1229937&postcount=72
Learning these scales as posted will also help teach you where the notes are on the fretboard.

For space limitations I have left the sharps and flats out of the above map. Understand that the blank spaces are where the Sharps (#) and flats (b) are. Also these notes in essence all have 2 names. For example A# and Gb are essentually the same note. The key of the music will determine key wether they will be shown as sharp(#) or flat(b). Here is the full notes on the 1 (or 6th) string with the sharps and flats shown.

---------Gb-------Ab-------Bb-----------Db------Eb
-E-|-F-|-or-|-G-|-or-|-A-|-or-|-B-|-C-|-or-|-D-|-or-|-E-|
---------A#-------G#------A#-----------C#------D#

Jollyrogers

Apr 17th 2007, 08:24 PM

Western music consist of 12 notes:

C
C#\Db
D
D#\Eb
E
F
F#\Gb
G
G#\Ab
A
A#\Bb
B
C (ONE OCTAVE UP)A key is a scale containing 8 of these notes put in an order based on a mathmatical formula consisting of a combination of whole steps and 1/2 steps. When you are playing in a key most of your notes as played will stay within the 8 in that scale. Those that are out of this are called Accidentals. More on this later, for now we are just dealing with scales that make up a key.

Whole Step - moving 2 frets on the guitar neck, or 2 keys on a piano.
Half steps - moving 1 fret or 1 key on a piano. there are 12 half steps in one octave, and 12 half steps between the open neck and the double dots on the fretboard of most guitars.For example
1/2 steps -------------------whole steps
-E F ---A Bb -----------------G A ---A B
-0-1---5-6--------------------------5-7------
---------------------------------------------
---------------------------------------------
------------------------------5-7------------
---------------------------------------------
---------------------------------------------

Here is the formula. The key is named for the root note. This is the note that you begin with. In this case I have began with C.
Formula
--whole---whole---half----whole---whole---whole---half
--step-----step---step----step----step----step----step
1-------2------ 3------ 4------ 5 -------6 ------7------ 8
C ------D------E-------F------G--------A-------B------C

Here is the same progression tabbed out on the 2nd string. Note that on the 1/2 steps you are only moving 1 fret and on the whole steps you are moving 2 frets.:hmm:
e---------------------------------
b--1--3--5--6--8--10--12--13---
g---------------------------------
d---------------------------------
a---------------------------------
e---------------------------------

In the key of C you will note that there are no Sharps(#) or flats(b). Notice what happens when we use the same formula, but start on the G note.
Formula
--whole---whole---half----whole---whole---whole---half
--step-----step---step----step----step----step----step
1-------2------ 3------ 4------ 5 -------6 ------7------ 8
G------A------B-------C------D--------E-------F#-----G

tabbed out on the 3rd string
E-------------------------------
B-------------------------------
G--0--2--3--5--7--9--11--12--
D-------------------------------
A-------------------------------
E-------------------------------

When we started on the G note everything went fine until we got to the E note. Here there is only a 1/2 step between E and F however we need a whole step. So we have to go one more to the F#. The next step is a 1/2 step and as it always will, it brings us back to the root note.

When musicians write sheet music in a key like this (G), instead of going thru and sharping every F note, they just sharp it at the beggining of the staff. This is called the Key Signature. Here are the 15 major and minor Key signatures. (Db-C#, Gb-F#, Cb-B, are enharmonic keys, meaning that they are written differently, but sound the same.)

http://library.thinkquest.org/15413/media/images/keys.gif

Slug1

Apr 17th 2007, 08:25 PM

Blues Scales extend the standard pentatonic scale with an extra 'note', the flat 5th or called the Blues note. See Jolly's post #97 for one of the standard scales. This is in the key of G. This note will be the '0' note.

Pattern 1 tab
---------------------------3-6|--0--|------|-----|---0--|
-----------------------3-6----|--0--|------|-----|---0--|
-----------------3-5-6--------|--0--|------|--0--|--'0'--|
-------------3-5--------------|--0--|------|--0--|------|
-------3-4-5------------------|--0--|--'0'--|--0--|------|
---3-6------------------------|--0--|------|-----|---0--|

pattern 2
--------------------------6-8-9-|----|--0--|-----|--0--|--'0'--|
----------------------6-8-------|----|--0--|-----|--0--|------|
----------------5-6-7-----------|--0-|--'0'-|--0--|-----|------|
------------5-8-----------------|--0-|-----|-----|--0--|------|
-------5-8----------------------|--0-|-----|-----|--0--|------|
-6-8-9--------------------------|----|--0--|-----|--0--|--'0'--|

pattern 3
------------------------------8-9-10-|-----|--0--|--'0'-|--0--|-----|
------------------------8-11---------|-----|--0--|-----|-----|--0--|
-------------------7-10--------------|--0--|-----|-----|--0--|-----|
--------------8-10-11----------------|-----|--0--|-----|--0--|--'0'-|
---------8-10------------------------|-----|--0--|-----|--0--|-----|
-8-9-10------------------------------|-----|--0--|--'0'-|--0--|-----|

pattern 4,
---------------------------------------9-10-13-|--'0'-|--0--|-----|-----|--0--|-----|
-----------------------------11-13-14----------|-----|-----|--0--|-----|--0--|--'0'-|
-----------------------10-12-------------------|-----|--0--|-----|--0--|-----|-----|
--------------10-11-12-------------------------|-----|--0--|--'0'-|--0--|-----|-----|
--------10-13----------------------------------|-----|--0--|-----|-----|--0--|-----|
9-10-13----------------------------------------|--'0'-|--0--|-----|-----|--0--|-----|

pattern 5
-------------------------------------13-15-|-----|--0--|-----|--0--|-----|
----------------------------13-14-15-------|-----|--0--|--'0'-|--0--|-----|
----------------------12-15----------------|--0--|-----|-----|--0--|-----|
----------------12-15----------------------|--0--|-----|-----|--0--|-----|
-------13-15-16----------------------------|-----|--0--|-----|--0--|--'0'-|
-13-15-------------------------------------|-----|--0--|-----|--0--|-----|

dirtball

Apr 17th 2007, 08:55 PM

So if I read it right, (440) or concert tuning is (from low to high) E A D G B E.

Jollyrogers

Apr 17th 2007, 10:04 PM

the strings are tuned open to those notes yes

Jollyrogers

Apr 17th 2007, 10:45 PM

ok, before I begin I will be working out of the Key of C for most of this. the same formula used to find the key is also used to manipulate the chords. So remember that I will be in the Key of C unless I say otherwise.

Some Definitions to remember

Major - Nothing in the scale progression is altered
Minor - The 3rd, 6th and/or 7th note has been lowered 1/2 stepOk lets look at the Key of C again\C Scale

--whole---whole---half----whole---whole---whole---half
--step-----step---step----step----step----step----step
1-------2------ 3------ 4------ 5 -------6 ------7------ 8
C ------D------E-------F------G--------A-------B------C

A chord consist of at least 3 notes. The 1st (root) the 3rd and the 5th. So in the scale above lets take those notes. They are C, E, and G. These 3 notes consist of the C major Chord or "C" chord. Look at the following fretboard map again

o---1--2---3---4---5---6---7---8--9---10-11--12 repeat
E-|-F-|---|-G-|---|-A-|---|-B-|-C-|---|-D-|---|-E-|
B-|-C-|---|-D-|---|-E-|-F-|---|-G-|---|-A-|---|-B-|
G-|---|-A-|---|-B-|-C-|---|-D-|---|-E-|-F-|---|-G-|
D-|---|-E-|-F-|---|-G-|---|-A-|---|-B-|-C-|---|-D-|
A-|---|-B-|-C-|---|-D-|---|-E-|-F-|---|-G-|---|-A-|
E-|-F-|---|-G-|---|-A-|---|-B-|-C-|---|-D-|---|-E-|

Anywhere on this fretboard that we can isolate those notes we will have a "C" chord. It does not matter the order of the notes, nor how many of each is included as long as at least 1 of each is included. Consider that all of these are "C" Chords

--0--3--3--8---12--3--------------------
--1--3--5--8---13--1--------------------
--0--0--5--9---12--4--------------------
--2--2--5--10---x--x--------------------
--3--3--3--10---x--x--------------------
--3---------8---x---x-------------------

Lets look at the G Scale and pull the 1st, 3rd, and 5th out of it

--whole---whole---half----whole---whole---whole---half
--step-----step---step----step----step----step----step
1-------2------ 3------ 4------ 5 -------6 ------7------ 8
G------A------B-------C------D--------E-------F#-----G

Notice that G, B, and D are all notes that are found in the Key of "C". Therefore if we play a "G" chord, we would still be in the Key of C. Therefore the G major or "G" chord can be found in the Key of C also.

Lets look at the A scale and pull the 1st, 3rd, and 5th

--whole---whole---half----whole---whole---whole---half
--step-----step---step----step----step----step----step
1-------2------ 3------ 4------ 5 -------6 ------7------ 8
A-------B------C#-----D------E--------F#-----G#-----A

Here the A note and the E note is in the key of C, but C# is not. Therefore A Major is not in the key of C and would not normally be played

However, in the minor scale, the 3rd, 6th, and 7th is lowered 1/2 step. Therefore the scale above becomes:

--whole---half----whole---whole---half---whole---half
--step-----step---step----step----step----step----step
1-------2------ 3------ 4------ 5 -------6 ------7------ 8
A-------B------C-------D------E--------F------G-------A

Side note 1. Note the formula change above these notes. You can use the new formula to find the minor of any root note or take the major scale and lower the 3rd, 6th and 7th notes 1/2 step

Side note 2: Note that this is the same exact notes as found in the "C" scale, however they now start on the A note. This is why A minor is said to be the relative scale to C Major. In All major keys, the 6th note in the scale will always be the relative minor for that scale

Now the 1st, 3rd, and 5th note are all in the key of C. Therefore the A minor (Am) chord is found in the key of C. Lets look at the E scale and pull the 1st, 3rd, and 5th

--whole---whole---half----whole---whole---whole---half
--step-----step---step----step----step----step----step
1-------2------ 3------ 4------ 5 -------6 ------7------ 8
E-------F#-----G#-----A-------B-------C#-----D#-----E

Once again the 3rd is out of Key. Therefore E Major is not in the key of C
However when we look at the E minor scale and pull the 1st, 3rd and 5th

--whole---whole---half----whole---whole---whole---half
--step-----step---step----step----step----step----step
1-------2------ 3------ 4------ 5 -------6 ------7------ 8
E-------F#-----G------A-------B-------C-------D------E

Now our 3 notes ( E, G, B) are in tune with the Key of C. Therefore the E Minor (Em) chord can be found in the key of C.

dirtball

Apr 17th 2007, 11:08 PM

I was just wondering what everybody plays for brand and such. A cupple years ago for my b-day my parents bought me an electric starter pack. It is a Behringer v-tone 2 pack with 15 watt amp. Also I like to use Jim Dunlop picks and Ernie ball regular slinkies.

For an acustic I bought a cheap $100 washburn from target eith a built in tunner. It has pretty good tone and sound to it though.

Jollyrogers

Apr 17th 2007, 11:13 PM

If we work thru every note in the C scale the way I showed in the previous thread we will find is that the 1st, 4th, and 5th note out of the "C" scale, will be major Chords. The C, F, and G chords are in the key of C. This is what is known as a 1, 4, 5 chord progression. This rule is true in all Keys

Lets go to the key of G for a second. Note that the 1st, 4th and 5th (G, C, D) These when worked out will also turn out to be all Major Triads. (Triads means 3 note chords)
1-------2------ 3------ 4------ 5 -------6 ------7------ 8
G-------A-------B------C-------D--------E------F#------G

Well what about the 2nd, 3rd, and 6th.
If you remember the previous post, The 6th will always be the relative minor for the key. Well the 2nd ans 3rd will turn out to be minor chords as well. Therefore when we look at the Key of C, we can automatically know that

The 1st (C), 4th(F) and 5th (G) will always resolve into major chords
The 2nd(Dm), 3rd(Em) and 6th(Am) will always resolve into minor chords
The 6th will always be the relative minor for that key.Therefore we could look at the pervious Major Scales\Keys like this.

1-------2------ 3------ 4------ 5 -------6 ------7------ 8
C-------Dm-----Em-----F-------G--------Am---Bdim-----C

1-------2------ 3------ 4------ 5 -------6 ------7------ 8
G------Am-----Bm------C-------D------Em------F#dim---G

The 7th note is a double dimished chord that is rarely used in Rock. It is almost identicle to the dominant 7th Chord. (G7 in the key of C or D7 in the key of G)

Next time I will start into 4 note Chords (7ths)

Any Questions, other than do I have any aspirins left, I am out of Aspirin at the momentat the moment

Jollyrogers

Apr 17th 2007, 11:16 PM

I play a Strat made by Gibson. I also have a Springfield copy of A Paul Reed Smith guitar. I run them thru a Hughes n' Ketter 50 watt Amp.

And I have my two 12 string acoustics also:lol:

dirtball

Apr 17th 2007, 11:19 PM

Slug1

Apr 17th 2007, 11:27 PM

That's so you can physically "see" what the pattern will look like on the fret board.

Jollyrogers

Apr 17th 2007, 11:29 PM

I was trying to draw out what the pattern of that scale would look like on the keyboard. Work thru the scale before that pattern real slow and notice where your fingers land. It is important esp later to pay attention more to the pattern than the exact place on the fretboard. The patern will stay the same, but it will move on the fretboard as the Key changes.

dirtball

Apr 17th 2007, 11:38 PM

mine is pretty much a strat too. I just noticed that where my arm sits to come to the strings there is almost like it was wet and it hasn't. Do you know how to get it off?

Slug1

Apr 18th 2007, 09:23 PM

Reelin in the Years. I exported this from my GPro. Hope it make sense for ya, hahaha

Track 1
|--3--| |--3--|
E S S E E E E E E E E Q H.
E||-------------------------5-----5-----|--5g7----5~------------|
B||-----7p-6p-5-----5--6g7-----------7--|-----------------------|
G||-------------------------------------|-----------------------|
D||-------------------------------------|-----------------------|
A||-------------------------------------|-----------------------|
E||-------------------------------------|-----------------------|

|--3--| |--3--| |--3--| |---3--|
Q E E E E E E E E E S S E H E E E
--L----x--x-------------5--L--5--5--|-------------------------------|
-------x--x--5--5g7--L--------------|--5h-7p-5~--L--------L--5h--7--|
------------------------------------|-------------------------------|
------------------------------------|-------------------------------|
------------------------------------|-------------------------------|
------------------------------------|-------------------------------|

|---3--| |---3--| |--3--|
E E E Q E E E E E E Q S S S S Q S S S S
------------------------------------|------------------------------------|
------------------------------------|------------------------------------|
--5b--6-----------------------------|------------------------------------|
------------------------7--7--9-----|--9----9h-10p-9p-7-9----9h-10p-9p-7-|
---------7--L----7S--9--------------|------------------------------------|
------------------------------------|------------------------------------|

Q S S S S E E E E Q. E Q E E
--------------------------------|------------------------|
--------------------------------|------------------------|
--------------------------------|------------------------|
--9----9h-10p-9p-7-9--7---7--7--|--7---------------------|
----------------------7h--9--9--|--7------5S--4----------|
--------------------------------|------------------5--0--|

|----3----| |----3----| |----3----| |--3--| |---3---|
Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q E E E E E E
----------------------------------|------------3------------7--L----------|
----------------------------------|-------3-------------------------------|
-----------------------------2----|--4--------------4g7--L--------7S--11--|
------------------------2---------|---------------------------------------|
------------0----2g4--------------|---------------------------------------|
--L----2--------------------------|---------------------------------------|

|---3---|
E E Q E E E E E
--10~--10~-------15--15--L------15--|
------------------------------------|
----------------------------16------|
------------------------------------|
------------------------------------|
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|----3---| |----3---|
E E E E E E S S S S S S S S
--15p--14--14--14S--12--12--12S-10-10-10-10S-9-9-9-|
---------------------------------------------------|
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S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S Q S S S S Q
--9S-7-7-7-7S-5-5-5-3S-3S-3S-3p-0-0-0-0-|--3-3------------------------|
----------------------------------------|------3-3~-L--------3-3------|
----------------------------------------|----------------4-4----------|
----------------------------------------|------------------------5----|
----------------------------------------|-----------------------------|
----------------------------------------|-----------------------------|

|-----3----| |-----3----|
S S S S E E E E E E Q Q Q Q Q Q
-----------------------------|----------------------------------|
-----------------------------|----------------------------------|
-----------------------------|-------5b-------------------------|
------5-5-------------5--0S--|--7-------------------------------|
--5-5-----2--3--4--5---------|-------------7----7----5S----4----|
-----------------------------|----------------------------------|

W W
-------------------|-------------------||
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--2----------------|-------------------||
--2----------------|-------------------||
--0----------------|-------------------||
-------------------|-------------------||

Jollyrogers

Apr 22nd 2007, 12:32 AM

Review

Chords are always named for the root note.
Unless specified, a chord always contains the 1st (root), 3rd and 5th notes out of the scale named by the root note
Major means nothing has been changed in the scale
Minor means some notes in the scale have been lowered 1/2 a step or 1 fret. If no number is after the Minor (m) then it is refering to the 3rd note (example Am, Em, Dm, Bm)
Chords may contain any number of the 1st, 3rd or 5th notes in them, but must contain at least 1 of each unless otherwise noted. (example Power Chords leave out the 3rd)Any chord deviating from the above will have numbers and letter abbreviations after it. A7,Gmaj7, Dm7, ect. This section will be going over what those numbers and abbreviations mean, Concentrating on the 7th note

The next most popular chord you are likely to see are Dominant 7th chords or just 7th chords. The formula for a Dominant 7th chord is the root, 3rd, 5th and a flatt 7th (7th lowered 1/2 step or 1 fret). In other words you adding a flattened 7th note to a major chord.

1-------2------ 3------ 4------ 5 -------6 ------7------ 8
G-------A-------B------C-------D--------E------F#------G

Here is the G major scale. A G major chord would consist of the G, B, And D notes. For a G7, we lower the 7th note 1/2 step and add it to the major Chord. the 7th lowered would be an F note. Once again anywhere you can Isolate a combination of G,B,D,F, you will have a G dominant 7th chord. Here is a diagram of a the G7 chord played open

--1--*F*--------Asterics shows the flat 7th note
--0---B---------
--0---G---------
--0---D---------
--2---B----------
--3---G----------

You will only have 1 dominant 7th chord in a key. It will always be the chord formed with the 5th note of the key. Another way to put it is that on a 1, 4, 5 chord pattern song the 5 chord is usually the only one that can be played as a Dominant 7th chord. Because of this looking for this chord is a good way to determin the key of a piece of music. Try striking a G7 then a C and listen to the sound. It has a "The End" sound to it. It just seems to want to move to the Root Chord of the Key. Here are a few others to try.
D7, G
E7, A
C7, F
A7, D

Special exception to the Dominant 7th rule
Music is like the English language. For every rule there is an exception and for every exception there is another one. Here is a common one dealing with the Dominant 7th chord.
Sometimes music may want to build more tension, so it will move in 5ths of the 7th Chord. For an example Say we are playing in C but we want to play a D7. We could play a D7, which is the 5th to the Key of G. Then pregress to the G7 which is the 5th of C and to a C major chord. Here in essence we have pretended to be in the key of G to increase the tension and then partially resolved it with the G7, and brung full resolution with the C major Chord. We could even go further and play an A7, to D7 to G7 to C.;) Get the Idea

Minor 7th Chords
Minor 7th are like major 7th except we are taking a minor chord and adding the flat 7th to it. It works out to 1st (root), b 3rd, 5th, and b7th

D Major Scale
1-------2------ 3------ 4------ 5 -------6 ------7------ 8
D ------E------F#------G------A--------B------C#-----D

So a Dm7 would work out to be the notes D F A C

-1---F--
-1---C--
-2---A--
-0---D--
--------
--------

1-------2------ 3------ 4------ 5 -------6 ------7------ 8
E ------F#-----G#------A------B-------C#-----D#-----E

1st, b3rd,5th, b7th makes the E minor 7th notes an E, G, B, D

--0--E-----
--0--B-----
--0--G-----
--0--D-----
--2--B-----
--0--E-----

Minor 7th Chords
Minor 7th are like major 7th except we are taking a minor chord and adding the flat 7th to it. It works out to 1st (root), b 3rd, 5th, and b7th
D Major Scale
1-------2------ 3------ 4------ 5 ------6 ------7------ 8
A ------B-------C#-----D------E-------F#----G#------A
A---------------C--------------E--------------G

-0--E---------------
-1--C---------------
-0--G---------------
-2--E---------------
-0--A---------------
---------------------

Major 7th
Remember that the word Major means Nothing has been changed in the scale. Major 7th means that we just add the 7th note to the chord

C Major scale
1-------2------ 3------ 4------ 5 -------6 ------7------ 8
C ------D------E-------F------G--------A-------B------C

C maj 7 would be the C, E, G, and B notes played together

Cmaj7
--3---G--|
--0--*B*-|
--0---G--|
--2---E--|
--3---C--|
---------|

F Major Scale
1-------2------ 3------ 4------ 5 ------6 ------7------ 8
F-------G------A-------Bb-----C-------D-------E------F

Here is the F major Scale. As you can see F,A,and C make up a F Major Chord. Adding the E note makes it a F Maj 7

--0---E-
--1---C-
--2---A-
--3---F-
---------
---------

I have chosen these particular chords above to show a point. All the chords above are in the key of C. They are starting with the different notes in the scale of C and resolving into what they will be if they stay in the key of C. Notice below:
Key of C
1-------2------ 3------ 4------ 5 -------6 ------7------ 8
C ------D------E-------F------G--------A-------B------C

Summary Notes

The 5th note in the keys scale always results in the Dom7th chord
the 1st and 4th will always resolve into Maj 7 chords
the 2nd, 3rd, and 6th will always resolve into minor 7thsSO we once again can cay this about the key of C

Key of C
1-------2------ 3------ 4------- 5 ------6 ------7------ 8
CMaj7--Dm7---Em7----FMaj7--G7-----Am7---B------CMaj7

Once again this is true of all keys. If we look at the Scale in the Key of G we could real quickly determine that the 5th (D) will be the dominant 7th. The 1st and the 4th will be Major 7ths, and the 3 minor chords will resolve into minor 7ths.

1-------2------ 3------ 4------ 5 -----6 ------7------ 8
GMaj7--Am7---Bm7---Cmaj7--D7----Em7---F#-----G

Jollyrogers

Apr 22nd 2007, 12:52 AM

Hopefully by now you got a basic Idea of how all this works out. So now I am just going to post the names, meanings and formulas

Add - ( A add 2, A add 9, C add 13) means to play the normal chord but add the numbered note out of the scale for that chord. Example G add 9th means to add the 9th note above the root, which would be the second A after the root G
Augmented - Root, 3rd, #5th (ex G aug G B D#)
Diminished - root, b 3rd, b 5th (Examples Bdim B, D, F)
Fifth (5th) - Open 5th chord Only the root and 5th played (Ex Powerchords, A5=A and E note only
minor 7th - 1, b3, 5, b7
minor major 7th - 1, b3, 5 7
Suspended 4th - 1, 4, 5
Suspended 2nd - 1, 2, 5
Seventh (7th) -1, 3, 5, b7
Seventh suspended 4th (7sus4) - 1, 4, 5, b7
Seventh suspended 2nd (7sus2)- 1, 2, 5, b7There are many more, but we are getting into Chords you will rarely see in the kind of music we are playing.

dirtball

Apr 28th 2007, 02:21 PM

What dose it mean when you ask for a short scale guitar? I have heard people ask for them and also on the internet on manufactures sites they have the scale on their. The most common that I have seen has been a 24 3/4" scale. What is so special about that? All this time I thought that a guitar was a guitar (besides the obvious differences with sound and tone).

Jollyrogers

Apr 28th 2007, 04:26 PM

Short Scale Length has to do with the length of the neck on the guitar. The length of the neck effects the fret layout and how easy the strings react to the players input (bends, freting, slides, buzzing:mad: , ect.
The shorter the scale length, the closer the frets are. The shorter scale legnth also has less string tension when in tune. Less string tension makes for easier bending and fretting. Longer scale length allows for more space between frets. This helps for lead players, players with bigger hands, ect.

The best thing to do when buying a guitar is to go shopping and lok for one that the neck fits your hand like a glove (and that sounds great too):bounce:

dirtball

Apr 28th 2007, 07:14 PM

I got it. Short scale=less tension and closer frets, easer bending and fretting. Sounds like I would like to try one and see for myself. Besides, who doesn't like a day looking at and playing different guitars. Also with short scales, is their less fret buzz?

Jollyrogers

May 1st 2007, 12:03 AM

With less string tension there is more of a tendency for the frets to buzz due to the string vibrating a wider spot. It can be adjusted some by raising the string highth though

dirtball

May 2nd 2007, 12:37 AM

Fret buzz makes me do some of these :B:B:B:B:B and maybe a little of this :mad::mad:. Now I know why rock stars smash their guitars at concerts.

dirtball

May 6th 2007, 05:10 PM

Thanks to slug for PMing me a link to a site I found some blues scales and have been playing them for a wile this morning. The site is ultimate-guitar.com. They have got tons of tabs and stuff.

Slug1

May 11th 2007, 02:56 AM

Here is the tab I use for the song Swing. Ya have to use an alternate picking technique. Do it slow until you can get through it all and then as you speed it up you'll say to yourself, "That is that song!" :lol:
e-------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
b-------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
g-------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
d--4-0-0-5-0-0-7-0-0-5-0-4-0-5-0-0-4-0-0-5-0-0-6b~~~-0-0-4-0-0-5-0-0-7-0-|
a-------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
E-------------------------------------------------------------------------------|

e--------------------------------------------------------------------------|
b--------------------------------------------------------------------------|
g--------------------------------------------------------------------------|
d--0-5-0-4-0-5-0-0-4-0-0-------0------------------------------------------|
a-------------------------4~~---------------------------------------------|
E--------------------------------------------------------------------------|

dirtball

May 13th 2007, 04:09 PM

I have got down a blues song by Justin Sandercoe. I can't find the tab on his site but it is www.jusitnguitar.com. Now I am kinda' teaching it to my dad.:lol:

Jollyrogers

May 15th 2007, 01:12 AM

Hey fellow guitar players you got to check this one out

Stevie breaks a string and never misses a note, even while swapping guitars

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STMkai1a5aw&mode=related&search=

I am impressed even more than before on that one:o :o

dirtball

May 16th 2007, 12:44 AM

That is truly amazing. Do ya think that he's practiced changing guitars a bit. I don't think so:rolleyes::lol:.

Slug1

May 26th 2007, 09:09 PM

Anyone up on there barre chords?

I need motivation to practice them!

Jollyrogers

May 27th 2007, 01:36 AM

Barr Chords eh, what ya lookin for??

TrustingFollower

May 27th 2007, 02:58 AM

I can do some barre cords, but the transition in and out of them are real slow for me.

Slug1

May 27th 2007, 03:00 AM

I just need to practice them and I seem to be avoiding the the pain for now :lol:

Jollyrogers

May 27th 2007, 04:00 AM

You can try "Night Moves" by Bob Seger

Bar chord G then a real quick progression to barr F and then to open C.
And reverse, open C, to a quick barr F to a Bar G:D

I use the open G though, if you know the song it will come to you real quick

dirtball

May 27th 2007, 11:37 PM

I can do some too. I can switch between barre chords but not too fast between them and regular chords like the E and D. I just barre all the strings with my first finger and go up and down the neck at every fret to build strength. Don't cheat with helping 1st finger with 2nd finger. Then (this is where I am now) add in two more fingers on other frets. Keep the finger that is barreing, strait and make your other fingers change to that one;). It isn't too hard doing them this way to learn them.

Jollyrogers

May 28th 2007, 01:09 AM

Hotel California, My version.

......Bm (barr).......F#(barr).............A............... ...........E7add9
e---------2--------------2----|----------------0---------------2----
b-------3--------------2------|--------------2---------------0------
g-----4--------------3--------|-----------2----------------1--------
d-----------4---------------4-|-------------------2---------------0-
a---2----------2---4----------|--------0-------------0--2----------
e------------------------------|-2--0-------------------------------

.......G......................D................... ....Em
e-------------3--------------2----|-----------------0-----------
b-----------0--------------3------|---------------0-------------
g---------0--------------2--------|-------------0---------------
d---------------0---------------0-|--------------------2--------
a-----------------2---0-----------|----------2-----------2-----
e-0-2-3---------------------------|---2T--0--------------------
--------------------------------------Use thumb
....F#
e--------------2-----|--------------------------------------------
b-----------2--------|-----repeat from the beginning------------
g------2h3-----------|-----1 time either struming or picking-----
d-----------------4--|------each chord. 2nd time go to chorus---
a--4-----------------|------Chorus is G, D, Em, F#---------------
e--------------------|--------------------------------------------

"Chords Used in song"
.....Bm....F#....A...E7add9...G.......D........Em
e---2-----2----0----2-------3-----2-------0-------------
b---3-----2----2----0-------0-----3-------0-------------
g---4-----3----2----1-------0-----2-------0-----------
d---4-----4----2----0-------0-----0-------2------------
a---2-----4----0----2-------2-------------2-----------
e---------2------------------3-----2-------0---------
--------------------------------(use thumb)

Here is a song that used 2 barr chords. Finger picking helps give you time to change chords.

dirtball

May 28th 2007, 03:22 AM

Jolly I'll try it tomarrow. What is the strum pattern?

Jollyrogers

Jun 6th 2007, 07:22 AM

I mostly finger pick it, you might try listening to the song and strum the chords with it if you want,

Jollyrogers

Jun 6th 2007, 07:31 AM

Anyone up on there barre chords?

I need motivation to practice them!

Alot of the music today just uses power chords. I keep coming up with power chords instead of bar chords. If a regular Barr is hard you might try doing them Hendrix style. He used his thumb on the low E string

barr the 1st finger across only 2 strings and use the thumb to catch the 6th (numbers show what fingers go where, T = thumb)
--1--|-----|-----
--1--|-----|-----
-----|--2--|------
-----|-----|--4---
-----|-----|--3---
--T--|-----|-------

Slug1

Jun 6th 2007, 11:44 PM

I found a bunch of guitar vids today and will be posting them one by one :lol:

This one is titled "Insanely Amazing (Improvisation) Guitar Solo"

Let me say this about this vid... it's an insanely amazing improvised guitar solo :rofl:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfqu4YEufYc

Slug1

Jun 8th 2007, 02:49 PM

Here's another guitar vid and even if I was to practice this song for a year in this style of playing I don't think I'd ever be able to play it as good.

Here's the song Bohemian Rhapsody finger picked on a classical guitar.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZ9jrBg4Lwc

Slug1

Jun 13th 2007, 01:05 AM

Anyone know the name of this short guitar solo by Zakk?

Youtube vid of Zakk playing some great guitar: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYMupc564zE

Crystalblue

Jun 13th 2007, 09:35 AM

Thought someone with kids might enjoy this one. It's a clip of a two year old drummer. If you watch it for a while, he has great rhythm. His drumroll at the end is so cute :lol:

http://dailymotion.alice.it/video/2043866

groovemongrel

Oct 1st 2007, 03:24 PM

Cool I just saw this thread as I'm new around here. I play in my church's band for our two services on Sundays; 10am and 1130am. I play an American Deluxe Strat through a Fender Blues Deluxe amp. The effects I use are a Daddy O overdrive and a Crybaby Classic.

xlive_4_godx

Oct 23rd 2007, 01:23 AM

Anyone up on there barre chords?

I need motivation to practice them!

EWWW BAR CHORDS!!!

Na, I have the same lack of motivation that you do!!

Lol, I'll keep checking back here to see any tips you all have :D

Slug1

Oct 23rd 2007, 02:32 AM

I'm tabbing this version of playing the song, "I can Only Imagine"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upKpzhnzAWc

Anyone want to help ;) :P

It's cool when he kicks in the strumming!

Slug1

Nov 4th 2007, 02:46 AM

I won a BD-2 Blues Driver tonight on Ebay! :pp

Jollyrogers

Nov 4th 2007, 03:12 AM

Does this help??

Verse:
..............E ....Emaj7

I can only imagine

What it will be like

...........A2
When I walk

By your side

.............E..... Emaj7
I can only imagine

What my eyes will see

................A2
When your face

Is before me

..............E ....Emaj7
I can only imagine

Chorus:
.....A2 ...........................B
Surrounded by Your glory, what will my heart feel

..........E
Will I dance for you Jesus or in awe of you be still

........A2 .......................................B
Will I stand in your presence or to my knees will I fall
.........E
Will I sing hallelujah, will I be able to speak at all
..............A2.... B

I can only imagine

Slug1

Nov 4th 2007, 03:26 AM

Thanks Jolly! :hug:

Jollyrogers

Nov 5th 2007, 04:37 AM

Here is what I play for the lead, I swap octives so I will tab it in both. What is in parenthese's is optional. if you play it play it real fast simulating what the keyboardist does

---------------------------------------------------------------------
---------------------------------------------------------------------
-----------------------------------------------------------------14--
--13 14 -----13-14-16--(13-14-16-14-13)----13-14--------13-14-----
--------14------------------------------------------16---------------
----------------------------------------------------------------------

1 Octave up

-11-12------11-12-14---(11-12-14-12-11)---11-12-----11-12-17--
--------12-----------------------------------------14-------------
-------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------------------------------------------------------

Mercy me's video on youtube,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3LUc78vbDk

Jollyrogers

Nov 25th 2007, 10:26 AM

Subject: "Christmas in Dixie" by Alabama

Christmas in Dixe
Alabama

Verse1:
D .........................Em ..A7............................ Dma7
By now in New York City. There's snow on the ground.
.......................Em .....A7 ..........................D ..D7
And out in California. The sunshines' falling down.
........................................G ......A7 ..................D ...Bm
And maybe down in Memphis, Graceland's all in lights.
..........................Em ........A7 .............................D
And in Atlanta, Georgia, there's peace on earth tonight.

Chorus1:
D ..............G .....A7 ......................D ..Bm
Christmas in Dixie, its snowing in the pines.
.....................................Em ..A7 ..............D
Merry Christmas from Dixie to everyone tonight.

Verse2:
D Em A7 Dma7
Its windy in Chicago. The kids are out of school.
Em A7 Dma7 D7
There's magic in Motown. The city's on the move.
G A7 D Bm
In Jackson, Mississippi to Charlotte, Caroline.
Em A7 D
And all across the Nation, its a peaceful Christmas time.

Chorous2:
D G A7 D Bm
Christmas in Dixie, its snowing in the pines.
Em A7 D
Merry Christmas from Dixie, to everyone tonight.
Em A7 D
And from Fort Payne, Alabama..Merry Christmas tonight.

Dma7
XXX222:D

Jollyrogers

Dec 28th 2007, 04:21 PM

How does this sound. I think it is closer to the beggining of "I Can Only Imagine" than what I had previously, I was playing around with the song and altered it a little from what I usually do

--11-12--------------------------------------------------------------
---------12------------12-----------12*-----------------------10-----
------------------8-9----------8*-9*-------8--9--------8--9----------
--------------------------------------------------11-----------------
---------------------------------------------------------------------
---------------------------------------------------------------------

Slug1

Dec 30th 2007, 01:26 AM

Cloudwalker

Dec 30th 2007, 02:38 AM

Jollyrogers

Dec 30th 2007, 03:00 AM

It's been a long time since my guitar lessons on reading tab. Refresh my memory please. What do the *'s mean?

Sorry, I forgot to add the footnote "play the *notes* real fast"

Jennifer

Jan 8th 2008, 06:13 PM

Doing some clean up so I'm going to unstick the thread for a bit but will stick it back when I'm done. ;)

mccain22

Jan 8th 2008, 08:09 PM

I was thinking the same thing... :rofl:

The next song I plan to learn is a Blues song called Hideaway.

i love that song. i can play it too. you gonna learn the clapton version or the freddie king version? or do your own would be cool too.

Sherrie

Jan 8th 2008, 08:55 PM

I wonder what someone who does not play the guitar will think if they see this thread?

Broken lines and numbers....maybe you could write a song and name it that! :lol::P;)

Slug1

Jan 12th 2008, 03:08 AM

Well, I finally bought an effects pedal for my guitar:
New Korg ToneWorks AX5G Multi-Effects Unit with Pedal

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h82/Slug1_2006/450831.jpg

testify2U

Jan 24th 2008, 11:58 AM

Y'all need to write these out in Piano Chord format. I can't read this junk!!! :D:lol:

Cloudwalker

Jan 25th 2008, 01:04 AM

I can read it. It's written in tablature for guitars.

Jollyrogers

Jan 25th 2008, 02:28 AM

--11-12--------------------------------------------------------------
---------12------------12-----------12*-----------------------10-----
------------------8-9----------8*-9*-------8--9--------8--9----------
--------------------------------------------------11-----------------
---------------------------------------------------------------------
---------------------------------------------------------------------

......#
f--#------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
e....--.........d
d---#--d-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
c..#
b---------------d-------------------d---------d*--------------------------------------
a...............--.................................................. ..............................................d
g---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
f
e--------------------------d----------d*------------d-------------d-------------
..D...............................d............... ...d*.............d..................d............ ........................................
C................................................. .............d
..B
A--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
..G
F--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
..E
D--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
..C
B--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
..A
G--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Its in the Key of E major. The "d" only represents note placement, you will have to feel for the timing. The "*" means these nots are played real fast, kind of in a tripplet feel.

Jollyrogers

Jan 30th 2008, 06:39 AM

Ok for the first one we will start in a lazy strum in the "G" chord. Here I am moving between a major chord and its relative minor. I I have posted a basic rhythm, Once you have it dowm try alternating or creating your own rhythm using this. The rhythm posted will have a western feel

...G........^...v.......^..v.......^..v.......^..V .......^..v...........Em
--3-------3--3-----3--3-----3--3-----3--3-----3--3--------0-----
--0-------0--0-----0--0-----0--0-----0--0-----0--0--------0-----
--0-------0--0-----0--0-----0--0-----0--0-----0--0--------0-----
--0---------------------------------------------------------2-----
--2--------------2----------------2-------------------------2-----
--3---3------------------3------------------3--------3--2--0-----

---------0--0-----0--0-----0--0-----0--0-----0--0----------0-----
---------0--0-----0--0-----0--0-----0--0-----0--0----------0-----
---------0--0-----0--0-----0--0-----0--0-----0--0----------0-----
------------------------------------------------------------2-----
------2-----------------2------------------2----------------2-----
----------------3-----------------3------------------0--2--3-----

Jollyrogers

Jan 30th 2008, 06:55 AM

This is the same excersize, except it is moving from C to its relative minor "Am". WHen you get pretty proficient at this, try adding in the ones above. These will give you a little "Flair" when transitioning chords. I will post a few more after I have had sleep.

...C........^...v.......^..v.......^..v.......^..V .......^..v.............Am
--0-------0--0-----0--0-----0--0-----0--0-----0--0----------0-----
--1-------1--1-----1--1-----1--1-----1--1-----1--1----------1-----
--0-------0--0-----0--0-----0--0-----0--0-----0--0----------2-----
--2-------------2-----------------2--------------------------2-----
--3---3------------------3-----------------3---------3--2---0-----
--3----------------------------------------------------------0-----

---------0--0-----0--0-----0--0-----0--0-----0--0---------0-----R
---------1--1-----1--1-----0--0-----0--0-----0--0---------1-----E
---------2--2-----2--2-----0--0-----0--0-----0--0---------0-----P
---------2--2-----2--2-------------------------------------2-----E
------0-----------------0------------------0---------0--2--3-----A
----------------0-----------------0------------------------------.T

Jollyrogers

Feb 1st 2008, 01:20 AM

Has anyone tried this site. You can set it up like a backup band and play along with a band. The drum beats alone would be good for practicing

http://www.jamstudio.com/Studio/index.htm

Fisher

Mar 14th 2008, 06:06 PM

Hi Slug,

I saw you mention that you thought you sucked on the guitar.
I promise you that you don't. The guitar is something that takes some time and you are going about it correctly, but always have fun with it so it doesn't get stagnant. Maintain a solid practice routine. Barre chords are easy once you play around with them. The biggest thing is getting the natural shape of the cord down pat so you can switch into that chord on a dime. All tablature is written a bit differently, so bear with it. After a while you will simply "sight read" it and apply it.
What kind of gear are you playing through?
If you have any questions on "ANY" gear, please post or PM me. I know more than I want to....haha.
PS: If you need any tabs let me know.
All the best and God bless,
Fisher

Slug1

Apr 12th 2008, 12:23 PM

Alright, check this out... I showed up early at church last night and did a practice without the band. So here it is... No One Like You by David Crowder! With missed cues, buzzing strings and the way I play it which rocks a little more then the original :pp

Hope this link works.

edit: since I removed the vid I removed the link.

TrustingFollower

Apr 13th 2008, 12:50 AM

Dude, that was great. Are you playing with the band now? If so can you record a session with the band and give us a like for that too.

Slug1

Apr 13th 2008, 12:57 AM

Dude, that was great. Are you playing with the band now? If so can you record a session with the band and give us a like for that too.Yeah, we practice tomorrow before church. Then again on Tuesday and Wednesday nights next week and the week after. Then the Vigil is on the 25th where we'll play the song. So that 23rd practice I'll see how the practice went with a recording and then the recording of when we play for the church.

First time I have ever done this :lol:

TrustingFollower

Apr 14th 2008, 02:19 AM

Here is a link to free online guitar lessons.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRU3GEwJTao

It is a seven week free course. It gets started with the basics and will build over the seven weeks. New players will benefit from this as well as experienced players. For the experienced players this will take you back to the basics to build upon your skills.

Here is another link to another site that lays out the lessons in a easier to follow way. This site is usually a day or two behind on updates with the latest lesson, but I find the way it is layed out works well.

http://therutabagaband.googlepages.com/bourassaguitar.htm

Hope you guys find this helpful.

hammers

Aug 4th 2008, 10:54 PM

Hey, anyone goin to the ACDC tour in November?

Luke34

Nov 7th 2008, 06:16 AM

Who wants to talk about secondary dominants and French 4-3 chords? I now have a bunch of mostly-useless theory knowledge and nothing to do with it.

Borean

Feb 10th 2009, 05:08 AM

I am theory illiterate...I can play any major scale but ask me the number of sharps or flats and I have to play it and figure it out...after 1 or 2 sharps of flats...I am ok with that though.

Borean

Feb 13th 2009, 11:02 PM

I guess I killed this thread...:(

Borean

Feb 18th 2009, 10:23 PM

Hey is there a musicians social group? I didn't see one...:hmm:

paradiseinn

Feb 21st 2009, 02:14 AM

if there is please let me know

Borean

Feb 21st 2009, 09:46 AM

hey you should start one...I'd join as I have seen none.:pp

Master Jake

Mar 6th 2009, 03:09 AM

Yeah stapler man :) Start one I wanna join.

paradiseinn

Mar 6th 2009, 04:07 AM

how do I start one? I don't know

Lynbob

Mar 7th 2009, 09:37 PM

how do I start one? I don't know
Go to your profile page. On the right hand side below friends & albums you will see Group Memberships. Click on Join Social Groups (http://bibleforums.org/forum/group.php). This opens a new window. At the bottom of this window click on Create New Group (http://bibleforums.org/forum/group.php?do=create).

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v161/lynbob/gifs/religious/cmb/socgrp.jpg

paradiseinn

Mar 9th 2009, 08:01 AM

hey thank you..............

mongoose303

Mar 28th 2009, 07:56 PM

Hey ! what do you get when you throw a piano down a mineshaft ?

A flat miner. :rofl:

Musician's joke....no tumble weeds please :lol:

I took up playing guitar again a few months ago, the last time I played was over 25 years ago. Needless to say I was very rusty but it seems once you learn you can pick it back up pretty quickly even many years later. I went to a christian fellowship meeting today and i was asked (along with 1 other) to play guitar during the sing along . I said yes but was hesitant about the idea. Its seems if you tell someone you can play guitar they immediately think you are a pro for some reason.:hmm:
Anyway things went very well, better than I had hoped, we had a great time in the Lord :pp
Some thanked me for playing and when I told them I had played once as a teen and had only bin playing for about 6 months, they didnt believe me :o . God is so good ! thank you Jesus for your blessings !:pp

kurlytop

Sep 16th 2009, 04:46 AM

awwww man!!!!

come on!!! i can't read tabs!!! :B
i want my mother!!!

seriously, this is more my stuff...

G/B C2 D G
I'm here to meet with You
G/B C2 D G
Come and meet with me.
G/B C2 D G
I'm here to find You,
G/B C D G
Reveal Yourself to me...

G/B C D G
As I wait (echo), You make me strong,
G/B C D G
As I long (echo), You draw me to Your arms.
G/B C D G
As I stand (echo), and sing Your praise,
G/B C D G
You come (echo), and fill this place
G/B C D G
Won't You come (echo), and fill this place,

G/B C D G
Jesus come (echo), and fill thi

this is just an example... :D

JesusMySavior

Oct 27th 2009, 05:48 AM

What's the difference between an onion and an accordion?

...When someone cuts up an accordion, nobody cries.

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

JesusMySavior

Oct 27th 2009, 05:49 AM

Jollyrogers

Oct 31st 2009, 09:45 PM

Praise You in this Storm By Casting Crowns
(played tuned down 1/2 step)

[V1]
. Em ................C................................. .............. G
I was sure by now God you would have reached down
. ...........D5..........................Em
and wiped our tears away, stepped in and saved the day.
. .............C................... G ....................D5
But once again, I say amen that it's still raining

[B1]
. Am .C G D5
as the thunder rolls, I barely hear your whisper through the rain, I'm with you
. Am C G D5
and as your mercy falls I raise my hands and praise the God who gives and takes away.

[C]
. E5 C G
And i'll praise you in this storm, and i will lift my hands
. D5 E5
that you are who you are, no matter where I am
. C G
and every tear I've cried you hold in your hand
. D5 Am C
you never left my side and though my heart is torn
. G
I will praise you in this storm

[V2]
Em C G
I remember when I stumbled in the wind
D5 Em
you heard my cry you raised me up again
C G D5
my strength is almost gone how can I carry on
D5 Em
if I can't find you

[B2]
Am C G D5
as the thunder rolls, I barely hear your whisper through the rain, I'm with you
Am C G D5
and as your mercy falls I raise my hands and praise the God who gives and takes away.

. E5 C
I lift my eyes unto the hills, where does my help come from?
. G D5
My help comes from the Lord, the maker of heaven and earth
. E5 C
I lift my eyes unto the hills, where does my help come from?
. Gb Db5 Eb5 B Gb Db5
My help comes from the Lord, the maker of heaven and earth