BibleForums Christian Message Board and Forums http://bibleforums.org/forum/ A free online Christian Community. Active, moderated Christian Message Board. en Fri, 20 Nov 2009 21:48:55 GMT vBulletin 60 http://bibleforums.org/forum/images/misc/rss.jpg BibleForums Christian Message Board and Forums http://bibleforums.org/forum/ Prayers for my son, Nate.. http://bibleforums.org/forum/showthread.php?t=197882&goto=newpost Fri, 20 Nov 2009 21:17:43 GMT Nate ended up at the clinic early this afternoon..ran head first into another boy's head and got a deep cut right on his eyebrow during gym at school. Split it in half too...ew and ow. He ended up with six stitches...the cut two inches across and down to the bone. ow. Currently he is home sitting with an ice pack on it again as it started swelling up again. poor kid.

Can you please pray there is no concussion (doctor doesn't think so even though he was dizzy after first being hit) and there are no problems with this healing up quickly. We are suppose to go out of town tomorrow for a family thing..I am unsure if we should now or not though. Just going to see how he does.

God bless ]]> Prayer moonglow http://bibleforums.org/forum/showthread.php?t=197882 Roast question http://bibleforums.org/forum/showthread.php?t=197872&goto=newpost Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:38:23 GMT I have a roast cooking in the crockpot for some company, but they called a few minutes ago and said they cant make it. There is another couple coming though, so I'm still having company. But I'm sure there will be quiet a bit left over because it's a kinda big roast. Seven people were coming, now there will only be four with one of them being a child.

How many days in the refrigerator will a pork roast last? I thought about taking the leftovers to church Monday or Tuesday of next week. I may even fix it into bbq and take it that way. But is it still going to be as good on Tuesday as it is today? ]]> Christian Fellowship *Living~By~Faith* http://bibleforums.org/forum/showthread.php?t=197872 - Blessed Redeemer – http://bibleforums.org/forum/showthread.php?t=197870&goto=newpost Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:07:07 GMT :bible:Luke 23:33, “And when they were come to the place, which is called Calvary, there they crucified Him, and the malefactors, one on the right hand, and the other on the left” __________ Avis B. Christiansen was born Oct 11, 1895 in Chicago,... :bible:Luke 23:33, “And when they were come to the place, which is called Calvary, there they crucified Him, and the malefactors, one on the right hand, and the other on the left”
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Avis B. Christiansen was born Oct 11, 1895 in Chicago, Illinois and died in Chicago on Jan 14, 1985. The legendary pastor and author H. A. Ironside wrote this concerning Avis, “She is the gifted author of many of our sweetest gospel songs. A modest, retiring person whom few get to know beyond the circle of her immediate family and friends. With a very keen apprehension of spiritual realities, and a clear understanding of the great truths revealed in the Word of God, her hymns and poems are eminently Scriptural and very soul-uplifting. One day while listening to a sermon on the subject of Christ's atonement entitled "Blessed Redeemer", Mr. Harry Dixon Loes was inspired to compose this tune. He then sent the melody with the suggested title to Mrs. Christiansen, a friend for many years, asking her to write the text. The completed hymn first appeared in the hymnal Songs of Redemption in 1920. Mrs. Avis Christiansen is to be ranked as one of the important gospel hymn writers of the 20th century. She has written hundreds of gospel hymn texts as well as several volumes of published poems. Throughout her long lifetime of 90 years, Mrs. Christiansen collaborated with many well-known gospel musicians to contribute several other choice hymns to our hymnals, including "Blessed Calvary"; "I Know I'll See Jesus Someday" and the below hymn entitled “Blessed Redeemer”, which is another one of my favorites. I sincerely trust you will enjoy this as much as I do!

Up Calvary’s mountain, one dreadful morn,
Walked Christ my Savior, weary and worn;
Facing for sinners death on the cross,
That He might save them from endless loss.

“Father forgive them!” thus did He pray,
E’en while His lifeblood flowed fast away;
Praying for sinners while in such woe
No one but Jesus ever loved so.

O how I love Him, Savior and Friend,
How can my praises ever find end!
Through years unnumbered on heaven’s shore,
My tongue shall praise Him forevermore.

CHORUS:

Blessed Redeemer! Precious Redeemer!
Seems I now see Him on Calvary’s tree;
Wounded and bleeding, for sinners pleading,
Blind and unheeding—dying for me!
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Further Thoughts:

When the Lamb of God offered Himself up as the sacrifice for our sin that Passover long ago, the Roman cross, intended to be an instrument of cruel death, instead became a symbol of new life and hope for the human race. God loved and valued each of us so highly that He was willing to pay the greatest price imaginable for our salvation. I will close with the following written by an unknown author:

A Hill with Three Crosses
One cross where a thief died IN SIN
One cross where a thief died TO SIN
A center cross where the Redeemer died FOR SIN ]]> Comfort and encouragement Shadrach http://bibleforums.org/forum/showthread.php?t=197870 Discussion: Is it already over for some ? http://bibleforums.org/forum/showthread.php?t=197869&goto=newpost Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:01:14 GMT A man who remains stiff-necked after many rebukes will suddenly be destroyed--without remedy. Proverbs 29:1 have some people past the point of no-return ? Proverbs 29:1 seems to suggest there is a limit for a stubborn man who is unteachable. A man who remains stiff-necked after many rebukes will suddenly be destroyed--without remedy. Proverbs 29:1

have some people past the point of no-return ? Proverbs 29:1 seems to suggest there is a limit for a stubborn man who is unteachable. ]]> Bible Chat Nobunaga http://bibleforums.org/forum/showthread.php?t=197869 Hand scans? http://bibleforums.org/forum/showthread.php?t=197867&goto=newpost Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:55:50 GMT Just wondering if anyone here has to scan their right hand at work to punch in and out? I do, and everytime I have to do it, Rev. 13 comes to mind.....It really bothers me. Just wondering if anyone here has to scan their right hand at work to punch in and out? I do, and everytime I have to do it, Rev. 13 comes to mind.....It really bothers me. ]]> End Times Chat paradiseinn http://bibleforums.org/forum/showthread.php?t=197867 Life Falling Apart http://bibleforums.org/forum/showthread.php?t=197861&goto=newpost Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:40:59 GMT Hi,

I would like to get some advice due to the fact that my life is busy falling apart and don't know where to start and where to leave what out to be a better person. I lost my job a month ago. I still havent found anything yet. My loved one left me. we were out and took it day for day and we ended up together after a visit. in that time that we were just friends one of my Female friends send me a pic of herself. i forgot to delete the message. i still dont know why i accepted it. after everything my girl - the one that left me- found the pic on my phone. we sorted everything out on 31October 2009. on Sunday 15 November 2009 she made it an issue again. i must admit this was a reacurrance of more than a year ago. i dont know what to do. please help me. we are both Christians and she say that she doesnt want anything to do with me me as a couple. we are still in contact. i just dont know what to do. ]]> Counseling Requests Batry http://bibleforums.org/forum/showthread.php?t=197861 Shroud of Turin http://bibleforums.org/forum/showthread.php?t=197860&goto=newpost Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:31:08 GMT I just read a news report link that has some scientists claim that new evidence found from examining the Shroud shows that there is a faint lettering on it that says "Jesus of Nazarene". I'm a little bit skeptical but this is an interesting new find with the Shroud. The Shroud was radiocarbon dated to around the 13th century but how accurate can that be? Heres the link.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/eu_italy_shroud_of_turin ]]> Apologetics and Evangelism Jeffinator http://bibleforums.org/forum/showthread.php?t=197860 We are not in the thousand years. http://bibleforums.org/forum/showthread.php?t=197859&goto=newpost Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:19:58 GMT We still await the coming of the Lord *at salvation time at the first part of Rev. 19.* *Hebrews 9:28* *Rev. 19:1 - see how these two link up to show that Jesus appears before the marriage can even start. * We still await the coming of the Lord at salvation time at the first part of Rev. 19.

Hebrews 9:28
Rev. 19:1 - see how these two link up to show that Jesus appears before the marriage can even start. ]]> End Times Chat vinsight4u8 http://bibleforums.org/forum/showthread.php?t=197859 A Warning Cry for America http://bibleforums.org/forum/showthread.php?t=197857&goto=newpost Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:16:47 GMT Hello, everyone--there has been a weight on my heart for quite some time now, and particularly intense this year, as I watch the downfall of my country. I believe that God's hand of judgment is upon us, and I'd like to use this thread to call all of America's true believers in Jesus to prayer for the United States and to speak of God's awesomeness and holiness to all we know. There is so little time before Jesus returns for His church--please speak out against evil, speak up for righteousness, speak up about the Good News of the Gospel, speak up about sin's consequences and the coming judgment of all nations!

The U.S. has an amazing history of a Christian heritage--we have known God from our very founding, and He has blessed us for acknowledging Him. Certainly, our history has not been sinless. We have many, many examples of fault before God. But from our founding and up until just about the 1950s, our majority of people knew about the Lord, knew what the Bible said, attended church, prayed in the government sessions, wrote laws intended to reflect Biblical values. That doesn't mean everyone was a true believer, but most recognized God and lived by His laws and knew there was right and there was wrong. And I believe God has blessed us because we acknowledged Him.

But then America began to turn her back on the Lord. It seems like it was a slow, gradual turn at first. Chipping away here and there. We thought we were so wise as we began to teach our children to be "free thinkers" and began to relax discipline in the home. We thought we were so wise when we began to embrace evolutionary theory. We thought we were so wise when we began to allow the immoral to gain a public voice in the name of nondiscrimination. Pretty soon we were pushing prayer out of public gatherings at schools and government, we were removing crosses and other Christian symbols and the 10 Commandments from public buildings, we embraced abortion rights, we embraced all religions as equal paths to God.

And now within the last year, the turning away from God has become intense. Our churches are calling for unity with other faiths, observing Muslim holy days, allowing homosexuals to be pastors, speaking up for issues such as climate change rather than speaking up for the truth of God's Word. Our presidential administration has put radical homosexuals, socialists, Muslims, and atheists into leadership positions, people who seek to silence Christians from speaking their faith. We have also increasingly turned from friendship with God's people, Israel. This is a huge mistake, for God blesses those who bless Israel and curses those who curse Israel, and our friendship with Israel was once a source of blessing for us.

I do believe that our current leadership is part of God's hand of judgment upon America. We chose to no longer acknowledge Him as our leader, and so I believe He has given us a taste of what it means to no longer have Him as our authority. He's given us a leadership in the executive, legislative, and judicial branches that is godless, immoral, blind to truth, weak, foolish, and arrogant. I do believe that this also plays right into a stronger judgment of allowing America's sovereignty to be overrun by a push towards uniting with the world. The one-world system is taking shape, as we can see within the world news every day. Our national sovereignty through the Constitution is losing ground every day as our leaders press to make America conform with the rest of the world's ways. And as our sovereignty falls, so do our Constitutional freedoms that we once held very dear.

I call all of America to repent and seek the Lord. I ask true believers in Jesus to not give up spreading the truth of His Word. I believe it is going to get tougher and tougher for us in the days ahead. I believe persecution of true believers is beginning here in America. Be courageous for the Lord. Perhaps our nation will realize how desperately we need to return to Him. ]]> End Times Chat wombat http://bibleforums.org/forum/showthread.php?t=197857 <![CDATA[Brother in law's daughter found]]> http://bibleforums.org/forum/showthread.php?t=197855&goto=newpost Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:10:40 GMT I didn't know the girl well, she's the step daughter of my half sister and lived with her mom out of state, but she had been missing since August. She was found in the woods by a deer hunter, murdered. She was 19 years old.

Please pray for peace for the family, especially my sister and brother in law and the girls mom. A very tragic end to a young life. May the peace of the Lord give them comfort. ]]> Prayer threebigrocks http://bibleforums.org/forum/showthread.php?t=197855 - Our Stewardship of Time – http://bibleforums.org/forum/showthread.php?t=197854&goto=newpost Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:26:30 GMT :bible:Psalm 90:12, "Teach us to number our days, that we may gain a heart of wisdom"
Ephesians 5:16, " … redeeming the time, because the days are evil"
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As believers in Christ, God has entrusted each of us not only with time, but also with His Word, our finances, our possessions and children to name a few. However, for this devotional I have selected the area of being a good steward of our time. One of the definitions in the dictionary for the word steward is a person who is entrusted with the management of property, finances, or other affairs not their own. I would venture to say that we all, at one time or another, didn't have enough time in the day to accomplish what we wanted to. How often have you heard yourself, or someone else say:

(1) If only I had the time?
(2) There is never enough time, is there?
(3) I don't know where the time goes?
(4) But how do you find the time?
(5) I will try to find the time?
(6) Is that the time already?
(7) My, how time flies!
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Another symbolic description of the brief span of a person's life has been described as the short dash between the date of birth and death on a gravestone. I don't know about you, but when I was young, time seemed to go by so slowly; however, as I grew older, it was startling to be confronted with the speed at which my years had flown by. So, what is time … we are so familiar with the concept of time that we seldom give much thought to what time really is. Dictionaries seem to struggle with this task, giving lengthy descriptions, then conclude that time is a measured duration. For instance, Webster defines time as many things, such as:

(1) The point or period when something occurs;
(2) An historical period;
(3) A moment, hour, day, or year as indicated by a clock or calendar; or
(4) An appointed, fixed, or customary moment or hour for something to happen, begin, or end.
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(1) I submit to you that “It’s time for opportunities to witness” – This true story should give us a clear and concise urgency to witness to those who don't know Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior. My friend and brethren, time will eventually run out for each of us and we don’t know when. It could be this very hour, day or week, that you will breathe your last breath, as it did for those individuals who took the maiden voyage of the Titanic, the so called unsinkable ship. If you were in the midst of a disaster, would you think to witness to people around you? John Harper did. Harper was a Scottish minister who was traveling by ship to preach for 3 months at Moody Church in Chicago. As the ship crossed the Atlantic, it struck an iceberg and began to sink. Some passengers were able to reach lifeboats, but many, Harper included, were flung into the cold Atlantic. As the people frantically tried to stay afloat, Harper swam around asking individuals if they knew Jesus. At one point, Harper approached a passenger floating on a piece of debris and pleaded with him to trust Christ. Just before Harper slipped under the icy waters for the last time, he said, "Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved." Four years later, at a meeting of survivors of the Titanic, a man testified that he had been saved twice that night. First, he had trusted Christ because of Harpers witness, and second, he had been plucked from the frigid sea. Harpers dying wish was that he could bring hope to hopeless people. Is that our living wish? In crisis or at ease, do we let people know about the One who can save for eternity? Harpers final witness reminds us to tell the good news to people who are drowning in their sin. We need to tell everyone about God’s Son, Jesus Christ, the only One who can save them from sin.

(2) I further submit to you that “We make the most of our time” – In Ephesians 5:16 the apostle Paul is urging us to make the most of our time because the days are evil. Satan our adversary desires that we use our time for the wrong things or waste it rather than to do good things. We need to give God control of our time as well as all the other areas of our life. An important perspective is seeing our time as a gift from God. He gives us a length of time to live, and He controls the seasons of our lives. We are not our own, our bodies are not our own, and our time is not our own. If we viewed our time as a gift from God, then we must respect the wishes of its Giver. The Lord has tasks for each of us to accomplish, and He has allotted us a certain amount of time to accomplish those tasks.

(3) Lastly, I submit to you it’s a “Time to Review” – No matter how young or old we are, it is always good to review or evaluate our life. Where have we been on our earthly journey, especially in our service for the Lord? Have we been using our time wisely or have we used it foolishly? Are we becoming the person God wants us to be? Are we making the most of the opportunities before us … opportunities to be a witness for our Lord, to serve others, and to glorify God both in word and action? Luke 9:25 says, What profit is it to a man if he gains the whole world, and is himself destroyed or lost. We can make the most of our time; yet ignore eternity, which is forever. We can let the passing dominate the permanent, and we can do it all on a very tight schedule without a right view of eternity or know the real value of time.
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Further thoughts:

Time should be very precious to each of us (saved or unsaved). It's something, which we cannot buy back. No matter how much money we were willing to pay, we couldn't buy back yesterday, or even a second of today. Once used, it's gone forever. So, how we use time is very important. There is only 24 hours in a day, and no matter how frantically we try, it is impossible to stretch those 24 into 25. Therefore, our problem isn't how to increase our time but how wisely to use our daily allotment of those 1,440 minutes as they steadily tick away. One of the most frustrating problems we face daily is the pressure of time. It seems there is never enough time to do what needs to be done. We must work, care for our family, service the car, clean the house, and give some time to eating and sleeping. We should relax and exercise for good physical health. There is also the area of socializing with others? Even families living together spend only a handful of minutes each day communicating with one another, often because everyone is too busy or involved in their own activities. To these regular demands the believer in Christ adds the time needed to read Gods Word, time for prayer, time to prepare for and carry out ministries, time to fellowship and time to attend services regularly each week. It is very sad and disheartening that many believers in Christ don't attend Sunday morning or even evening services because it conflicts with other areas of their life, such as going to a football, baseball or basketball game, a birthday party, golfing, bowling, a wedding, or movie. They will make time to go to these events, which will do nothing concerning their spiritual condition, and neglect the one area which would be beneficial not only in this life, but in the life to come. So, my questions to whoever reads this would be:

(1) Are you a good steward of the time God has given you?
(2) Or are you wasting it on the foolishness of this world?

(3) You can't change the way you have spent your time in the past, but you can definitely control how you spend your time now. You have the present moment … make the most of it!

(4) How much time do you have? You are never sure, but at least you have today to change and start being a good steward of your time. Think of time this way, “Wasting the gift of time insults the Giver of time! ]]> Devotions Shadrach http://bibleforums.org/forum/showthread.php?t=197854 A Bumper Sticker My Friend Saw http://bibleforums.org/forum/showthread.php?t=197853&goto=newpost Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:26:10 GMT My friend said, "We were in slow-moving traffic the other day and the car in front of us had an Obama bumper sticker on it. It read: Pray for Obama. Psalm 109:8".

 ]]> Christian Fellowship Diggindeeper http://bibleforums.org/forum/showthread.php?t=197853 I ate way too much last night! http://bibleforums.org/forum/showthread.php?t=197852&goto=newpost Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:09:23 GMT I took my wife out or dinner at a local resturaunt last night.They had all you can eat catfish,so I ordered that,along with my wife.I didn't need to eat any more,one serving was all I could eat and then some.It came with catfish,hush puppies,cole slaw,and three sides.Funny thing,my brother told me one of his friends said that the place didn't give you enough to eat there.I'd like to know what he ate because every meal is full,much more than a chain resturaunt.I like the place,but probably won't eat the all you can eat dinner again.Maybe I shouldn't have had pie.:hmm: ]]> Christian Fellowship KATMAN http://bibleforums.org/forum/showthread.php?t=197852 Coming under attack? http://bibleforums.org/forum/showthread.php?t=197849&goto=newpost Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:30:13 GMT I was just wondering if any of the members here felt that they came under attack once they turned their lives over to Christ?I have heard several times that once you truly give your life to GOD an get baptized that satan will do his best to knock... I was just wondering if any of the members here felt that they came under attack once they turned their lives over to Christ?I have heard several times that once you truly give your life to GOD an get baptized that satan will do his best to knock you down,and since getting baptized in March my husband and I have been through one trial after another-we are so tired,but we refuse to give up.Sometimes I feel almost hopeless,but I remember that GOD promises to never leave me nor forsake me and that gets me through.One thing that bugs me a bit is when someone(even though they mean well)says"oh,don't let it get to you"I feel like screaming "I am trying so hard,can't you see"I pray for strength,I ask GOD to please hold me up-and he is,but my physical body is tired from all of the stress we have been under in the past months.I would love to hear from other believers who have been through the fire and came out on the other side stronger.Please send me some encouragement-I feel low today,and I am trying really hard.GOD-bless:hug: ]]> Growing in Christ Lady e http://bibleforums.org/forum/showthread.php?t=197849 Die naam van Jesus http://bibleforums.org/forum/showthread.php?t=197848&goto=newpost Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:37:55 GMT Verskoon tog as julle onlangs hierdie gesprek gehad het, ek was vir 'n tydjie afwesig, maar nou is ek weer bietjie aktief en ek sien iets vreemds vandag, 'n manier vir die skryf van my Verlosser se naam wat ek nog amper nooit gesien het nie, ek dink ek het eenmaal tevore daarmee te doen gekry.

Die spelling was Yehoshuah. Nou hier is my punt, ek kan gaan daarvoor as mense na die Here HERE verwys as YHWH, dit is immers Hebreeus, Ou Testamenties en een van die maniere hoe God hom aan ons openbaar het, net soos El Shaddai ens. Ek is ok daarmee as mense hierdie aanspreekvorme vir God gebruik, moet net nie vir my kom vertel dis die enigste manier hy die Here aangespreek mag word nie, MAAR

En hierdie is 'n groot MAAR. Waar kry mense die name wat hulle tans vir Jesus gebruik, dis beslis nie in die Bybel nie en as dit nie in die Bybel is nie, is die nie geinspireerd nie, is dit nie 'n openbaring van God aangaande sy Naam nie. Waar kom ons aan hierdie nuwe name vir Jesus?
En die saligheid is in niemand anders nie, want daar is ook geen ander naam onder die hemel wat onder die mense gegee is, waardeur ons gered moet word nie.
Handelinge 4:12
Ek is gelukkig as ons Immánuel gebruik, Verlosser, Christus, maar is ons nie besig met 'n gevaarlike speletjie as ons name begin gebruik wat nie aan ons geopenbaar is nie?

Ek hoor graag ander se insette in die verband.

Groete
Phil ]]> Vrae en menings oor die Bybel Phil Fourie http://bibleforums.org/forum/showthread.php?t=197848