Discussion: After The Millenium?

[John146]

Originally Posted by DurbanDude

Neither of those verses says that the left behind will be destroyed by fire:

2 Thess:
1:7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
1:8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
1:9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;
1:10 When he shall come to be glorified in his saints

Your proof verse is very clear that Jesus is revealed in fire (Jesus is aflame, not the unbelievers), and the unbelievers are destroyed from the presence of God (spiritual destruction, nothing is mentioned about their bodies).

2 Peter 3 is often mistaken to mean the "whole earth" or "planet earth". If we read it carefully we see that this is impossible, the Greek word can mean the ground, and in context it has to mean the ground rather than the whole planet:
3:5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:
3:6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:

Thus we do have a dramatic day of fire, both premills and amills agree that that day will be dramatic, there will be a massive earthquake, entire regions will be destroyed with fire, the elements will melt, ground will burn, the achievements of man will be destroyed, the sky will roll away. This is what 2 Peter describes, there is nothing in 2 Peter which describes the death of every unbeliever, in fact verses all over the bible describe the survival of some unbelievers after the day of the Lord.

So your two proof verses do not refer to universal death of the unbelievers at the DOTL.

Jesus said the flood physically destroyed all unbelievers and it would be the same when He comes, so my opinion isn't based on those passages alone. But we've been over this more than once so I don't have any more to say on that issue.