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Growing in Christ 1 Thessalonians 5:9-11 For God has not destined us for wrath, but for obtaining salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ, who died for us, so that whether we are awake or asleep, we will live together with Him. Therefore encourage one another and build up one another, just as you also are doing.

 
 
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Old Nov 4th 2009, 01:46 AM
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For me there is a difference between religious and spiritual. If you are spiritual that means you have received the spirit of God, you have made a commitment to believing Jesus as your savior. Religions is man trying to reach God. IMO you can reach all you want, but without Jesus you are not getting to God.

So those people who are in a religion are definitely blinder than a child of God who is carnal. IMO because they have been given sight the religious people have not. Here is what Apostle Peter says.


2 Peter 1:5-9
5 Now for this very reason also, applying all diligence, in your faith supply moral excellence, and in your moral excellence, knowledge, 6 and in your knowledge, self-control, and in your self-control, perseverance, and in your perseverance, godliness, 7 and in your godliness, brotherly kindness, and in your brotherly kindness, love. 8 For if these qualities are yours and are increasing, they render you neither useless nor unfruitful in the true knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. 9 For he who lacks these qualities is blind or short-sighted, having forgotten his purification from his former sins.



That's a good passage from Peter. Thanks.

I guess what I am getting at is that someone who is involved in a cult, say Mormonism, believes that they already have God, while someone who is living a completely secular life doesn't have God, so that when He is confronted with God, God can show his need for Him.
A Mormon, say, wouldn't think that, because they believe they already have the truth. Would you consider this greater blindness?

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Jesus said, "It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of aneedle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."

So maybe money does have an affect on getting saved, again we are talking about blindness in the sense of seeing the Light, getting saved.
Ya...I think riches can be a real distraction. So, then, it appears that there are numerous factors that keep people in blindness. I also, know, that there are many wealthy people who are empty and unfulfilled, so perhaps this is the thing that God uses to show them their need for Him.

I have found that everyone who becomes saved shares one thing in common....in some way, they understood their need for God. The need didn't manifest itself in the same way in everyone's life.
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