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I for one get your point and agree that eretz is sometimes understood as a certain region, and not the entire planet, even tho the translators rendered it as earth. Context would then determine how...

Assuming there were giants on other parts of the globe then, what made them so special that God didn't need to destroy them with a flood like those in Noah's land? OTOH, if at the time all of the...

Here's the problem. When you conclude that some giants survived, you are adding to the text. You are basically saying that not only did Noah find grace in the eyes of the LORD, so did some giants as...

Depending on how one views the book of Revelation overall, I would have to say, according to that book, if Jesus didn't return when He does, man would likely wipe himself out of existence..likely...

So your solution is that the entire planet was not flooded at the time, thus allowing some giants to flee the area, and other giants were living in areas where it didn't get flooded?

Genesis 6:6 ...

Isaiah 11:6 is speaking of supernatural intervention after Christ has returned. Your link, tho I didn't look at all of it, that is all man made stuff as far as I can tell. Thus no connection to...

In the past I used to interpret the 2 witnesses in that chapter as 2 literal people. I no longer interpret it that way. So if these 2 witnesses are not to be understood literally, why would the...

Speaking of the Revelation, what I find interesting about how some interpret the Revelation, especially those that connect it to the events of 70 AD, is how they interpret the temple in chapter 11....

I agree. And it doesn't make any sense that some giants survived, assuming these are really giants, and that giants don't mean something else which has nothing to do with size. Maybe the reason some...

No it doesn't. It was after the flood that God confounded the languages. I suspect this had something to do with there being supposedly different races of people on the earth. But not that God...

But how can you be so certain that is to be understood literally? I would think there are other ways to understand whose height was like the height of the cedars, and that it isn't literally meaning...

Try this. Try reading it in context.


Genesis 6:13 And God said unto Noah, The end of all flesh is come before me; for the earth is filled with violence through them; and, behold, I will destroy...

This very well may be the case. But the way I also look at that chapter in Ezekiel, I tend to see it depicting what a physical resurrection will be like in general.

Of course it isn't applicable in this situation, because it is you doing the assuming, not someone else. Ahh... I'm just giving you a hard time here, just don't take it too seriously what I said. :)

I think you meant to say Romans 8:13, not Romans 10:13. Speaking of that verse then, to me Romans 8:13 seems to be speaking of what happens in the resurrection when Jesus returns. The reason I think...

You do have Scripture to backup that theory, correct? Are you suggesting, that even tho the Bible says Noah was the only just man at the time, that there were other just men as well? And didn't you...

I need time to look into this a bit further, since I have to admit, you make some very interesting points. Especially in regards to #1 in your list.

Does this mean you believe literal angels will start having sex with earth women before the 2nd coming, and that children will be born of these unions, thus giants on the earth once again? I'm...

I tend to lean this way as well. But maybe the point is that the godly mingles with the ungodly, thus causing all to become ungodly. But when we have it just between the godly men and the ungodly...

You do know that generations are used twice in Genesis 6:9, and that they are different Hebrew words, correct?


These are the generations(towldah) of Noah: Noah was a just man and perfect in his...

Genesis 6:2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.

Matthew 24:38 For as in the days that were before the flood they...

If one of the points of the flood was to wipe out these giants, thus stopping the union between fallen angels and earth women, assuming fallen angels were really involved here, then how and why did...

I fail to see how you're coming to that conclusion from those verses?

Matthew 24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the...

Interestingly 'after' in Genesis 6:4 is translated as 'from' in Num 14:43, 1 Sam 6:7, 2 Sam 11:15, 1 Ki 19:21, Job 34:27, Isa 59:13, Jer 3:19, Jer 32:40, Eze 14:7, Eze 14:11, Hos 1:2, Zeph 1:6

So...

The author wasn't predicting the post flood future in that account. If the author was meaning post flood, the verse would have to be understood like such, which then is completely out of context with...

That's a fair point, but how do you know they didn't have a ceremony of some kind? Not everything was recorded in Scriptures. God could have provided the ceremony for them for all we know. But even...

I'm willing to hear your answer for Matt 24, but in the meantime the following are some of my thoughts I just formulated in Notepad awile ago.

Here's the way I currently reason it.

In Matt 24...

FWIW, there was a time where I seriously concluded in favor of them being literal angels as well. So I do know where you're coming from, since I used some of the same arguments and Scriptures you do....

You're just not looking at this from the right perspective. This doesn't mean Jesus was never aware of any of these people, it simply means that Jesus ends up rejecting them as His own based on what...

Everything you have shared may very well be backed by Scriptures, but that hardly proves the sons of God in Genesis 6 are to be understood as literal angels. I would think one obvious clue as to why...