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    Please Help Re: who is the rider on the white horse?

    In 1John there is a singular and plural statement when it comes to the Antichrist:
    "Little children, it is the last hour; and as you have heard that the Antichrist is coming, even now many...
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    Re: Christ Riding on Horse

    I believe that the person seen on the white horse in Revelation 6 is the Anti-Christ and I believe this to also be the same as talked about in the old testement by the name of Gog. Gog is also seen...
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    Re: Christ Riding on Horse

    The white horse I believe to be the in Rev 6 is the "lawless one" [nkjv] mentioned in 2Thes2. The reason the picture of the white horse is because he comes as a deception claiming to be God. We all...
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    Re: Pre-Trib Rapture was taught in Third Century

    In Matthew 24 it says "unless those days are shortened"..... so how will the days of the tribulation be shortened? Is it the second coming of Christ that shortens these days or is it something...
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    Re: Pre-Trib Rapture was taught in Third Century

    Couple questions if this is your belief:

    1) Does the Rapture takes place during or after the tribulation period?
    2) When Christ returns at His second Coming (Rev 19) is this during or after the...
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    Poll: Re: NEW UPDATED POLL: When is the rapture?

    They never left they earth. Likewise those save in Matthew 24 at the Second Coming will not leave the earth.



    The wicked were taken away and killed by the flood. Noah and his family never...
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    Poll: Re: NEW UPDATED POLL: When is the rapture?

    During the flood the only ones taken were the wicked. Noah and his family went no where. They remained on the Earth. So it will be at the Second Coming, those who are wicked will be removed and...
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    Poll: Re: NEW UPDATED POLL: When is the rapture?

    LOL. I like it the way you lecture Jerry on repeating yourself. I am not even going to respond to this one. How many time in other threads have you and I gone over this?
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    Poll: Re: NEW UPDATED POLL: When is the rapture?

    Hmmm. Took and Taken. I wonder if they can mean the same thing.



    And it doesn't mean they are in different context.



    And there is nothing that says they mean anything different
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    Poll: Re: NEW UPDATED POLL: When is the rapture?

    I thought it was funny. You didn't need to apologize in the first place cause no wrong was done.



    This is speaking of all the saints up to the point of His Second Coming.

    If I tell you I...
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    Poll: Re: NEW UPDATED POLL: When is the rapture?

    Obviously the translators of the bible we have today to English think different. As I do. Took and Taken can apply to the same thing.
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    Poll: Re: NEW UPDATED POLL: When is the rapture?

    LOL. You were wrong on my sex as you are wrong on Matthew 24 and Luke 17



    They are in Christ but these will be the mortals who populate the millennium.
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    Poll: Re: NEW UPDATED POLL: When is the rapture?

    "The Son of Man will send out His angels, and they will gather out of His kingdom all things that offend, and those who practice lawlessness" - Mat 13:41

    So the above passage would be like the...
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    Poll: Re: NEW UPDATED POLL: When is the rapture?

    If you are referring me to a She then you are dead wrong.



    This is an absurd statement.
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    Poll: Re: NEW UPDATED POLL: When is the rapture?

    No. This is not the way I see it. The saved at this time will not be caught up in the air being they are going to be the ones who are to populate in the millennium. I believe this is speaking of...
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    Poll: Re: NEW UPDATED POLL: When is the rapture?

    No. You have those who made it though the tribulation period. You can see some of these in Revelation 7. For example there will be a remnant of the Jews who will make it though this tribulation...
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    Poll: Re: NEW UPDATED POLL: When is the rapture?

    In the same way as the flood came and took the wicked away, it will be the same way when Christ returns with all His saints. The end of Revelation 19 explains this in more detail. I am thinking...
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    Poll: Re: NEW UPDATED POLL: When is the rapture?

    To answer that question then I have to ask a question. When the scripture state that the flood came and took them all away where did the flood take them?
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    Poll: Re: NEW UPDATED POLL: When is the rapture?

    They were taken away by the flood and killed.
    "until the flood came and took them all away" - mat 24:39



    No, it is clear from Luke that the ones taken are the ones who's body is going to be...
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    Poll: Re: NEW UPDATED POLL: When is the rapture?

    In Luke when they asked "Where, Lord" where they asking about the saved or lost? The reason I wonder what you think is because the Lord answered with:
    "Wherever the body is, there the eagles will...
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    Poll: Re: NEW UPDATED POLL: When is the rapture?

    Because of this:
    "And they answered and said to Him, Where, Lord? So He said to them, Wherever the body is, there the eagles will be gathered together." - Luke 17:37

    When they said "Where, Lord"...
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    Poll: Re: NEW UPDATED POLL: When is the rapture?

    Or you need to explain it more clearly



    You first.



    It says whereever the body is, there the eagles will be gathered together. That is the whole context of this passage. It is speaking...
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    Poll: Re: NEW UPDATED POLL: When is the rapture?

    I don't see how what you just said agrees with Eric. It seems to me that Eric believes the ones taken in Matthew 24 and Luke 17 are the saved. You seem to say it is the wicked (which is correct).
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    Poll: Re: NEW UPDATED POLL: When is the rapture?

    The ones left are the saved and they are the ones who enter the millennium. Get into the Greek all you want but Jerry has been trying to tell you what it means. It is as clear as day that the ones...
  25. Re: A bill is in the Senate. Could allow unjust arrest of US citizens.

    I am not going to hold your hand... lol. I gave you a link that contains the info. Have a great day.
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    Poll: Re: NEW UPDATED POLL: When is the rapture?

    The bodies of the ones taken are with birds(vultures). Are you trying to say this is the saved?
    "And they answered and said to Him, Where, Lord? So He said to them, Wherever the body is, there the...
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    Poll: Re: NEW UPDATED POLL: When is the rapture?

    Eric, This is really ridiculous. It clearly says that the ones taken were the wicked:

    "For as in the days before the flood, they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until...
  28. Re: A bill is in the Senate. Could allow unjust arrest of US citizens.

    The evidence is there. You have the internet. I gave you a link that showed different accounts. Not sure what else I am suppose to do.
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    Poll: Re: NEW UPDATED POLL: When is the rapture?

    During the flood the ones taken where killed. The ones left were the ones in the ark.

    "and did not know until the flood came and took them all away, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be"...
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    Poll: Re: NEW UPDATED POLL: When is the rapture?

    Read the passage Eric. It was the wicked who were taken away:
    "and did not know until the flood came and took them all away, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be" - Matthew 24:39
    "They...
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