Hi Chris,
I actually see the 'anointed one that was to be cut off' was referring to Onias III and the 'prince that was to come' and destory the city and sanctuary was referring to Antiochus IV. I...
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Hi Chris,
I actually see the 'anointed one that was to be cut off' was referring to Onias III and the 'prince that was to come' and destory the city and sanctuary was referring to Antiochus IV. I...
It would be my interpertation that the Beast of the Sea is denoting the seven gentile kingdoms that come upon the land of Israel and thus the Beast of the earth [land] is denoting apostate Israel...
I would reply by given the notion that God often 'doubled' his dreams to his prophets so to established the word or vision.(Genesis 41:25-32) This same method is saw in Daniel of the little horn. At...
I think we must follow the method of interpretations . literal thrones, literal beheaded, literal thousand years, literal keys, literal chains, etc...Or figurative thrones, figurative beheaded,...
Scripture said that satan was loosed after the thousand years reign [ no matter what prespective] His [Beast] was only given for 42 months to make war.
Then how do you know that 'beheaded' means that they were literally beheaded? Likewise would you say that there was a literal key and chain to bind Satan? Would you also said that there was literal...
This would be 'after' their reign with Christ. [ After the thousand years reign] When satan is loosed to deceive the nations again..remember?
Would you assume those saints that stood on mount Zion in Hebrews 12:22-23 as being died? Would you also assume that Jesus told the saints that they could move mountains and that he meant it...
Me too ;) As well they did assume the wrong thing. Jesus said to them you know not what you ask...(Mark 10:35-45)
Jesus often asked them how long was he going to have to teach them the simple things (paraphrase)
It means at the end if they endured they would be glorifted and live forever, even if the die....
Precisely why his disciples misunderstood how the restoration of Israel would come about. They were looking for a earthly kingdom where they were to set on thrones governing over Israel. That's not...
Good Stuff RogerW
How was Christ to reign over anyone on earth? It would have been by his saints as ambassadors, but that would take some time until all kingdoms fell before the Lord. This points to the first century.
He reign begun when he ascended to the Father for the Father give him all authority. The thing is when does the saints reign with Christ? And it was for only a thousand years. I would have to...
First lets ask one question! 1) When was Christ to begun his reign? Wasn't is when he sat on the Father's right hand? Then those saints were to reign with him. That would make it in the first...
I hold Daniel as prophesy of Bablyon, Medo-Perisa, Greece and the fourth beast is the divsion of Greece that has a little horn to rise to power as Antiochus IV from Seleucid. I would also see John in...
I consider the Beast of Revelation as the imagery of all the Beast kingdoms from the pasted history that ruled over Israel and at the same time present in the days of John. It's not exclusive to Rome...
It's makes for a difficult interperation of Days.
The beast itself is the eight and of the seven given meaning much like that of a seven branch menorah used in Hanukkah of the eight day light festival.
"And the beast that was, and is not, even he...
The overall assumption that interperts the seven hills as the seven hills of Rome is lacking becasue there was other nations with seven hills. To whom was John refering to?... Why not Jerusalem...
Revelation 20:4-5
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and...
Head means kingdom (Daniel 7:6) ..and the beast has also four heads...the interpertation is found in (Daniel 8:22) ...Now that being broken whereas four stood up for it, four kingdoms shall stand up...
Hi Chris,
I changed some of my prespective on Daniel. As I pervious posted #5 I now believe that Daniel was prophesying solely about the Abomination by Antiochus IV. I no longer beleive that...
The Beast and Whore was in the past. This is why Jesus spoke of the Pharisees that their fathers did kill the prophets and saints (Matt.23).
I think it's very simply. Paul taught that they the Ephesians were once dead in their sins, but have since being quicken to life. If they had not being awaken from their sleep of death they would...
John neither comes right out and says what he means. He uses symbols as 'Beast with seven heads' to speak of something beastly coming out of the sea and neither is sea the sea we think of, but he...
I do think Paul was using 'man of sin' , 'man of lawlessness' as an personifcation of 'apostate' Israel. Consider that Paul was also using the 'son of man' as faithful Israel that was to consume the...
Hi Chris,
Just dropped in and wanted to give my thoughts on this. The rebellion 'fallen away' would be thoses that fall or stumble at the truth. In effect turning away for grace back to the law....
I'm under the impression that those that hold to interperting the 'seven mountains' as Rome and those 'seven kings' as Caesars are misunderstanding the point that John makes when he mentions the...
Thanks for the inputs about the bi-Millennia. I'm in agreement that it seems to be missing the thought given by the author of Revelation and also it arises more questions than it can answer without...