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    Re: JESUS- the I AM

    Sorry about that, i have given up trying to reason with heretics. It's clear you have no common ground whatsoever with historic orthodoxy, I have seen you corrected many times on this issue but to...
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    Re: JESUS- the I AM

    Yeah, the deaf hear and the blind see and the dead are raised but Jesus is not God in the flesh he's just old "somehow"
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    Poll: Re: Can Calvinism and Arminianism be reconciled?

    Thats a pity to see someone with authority espousing this. Arminius believed strongly in original sin as inherited corruption that affects every aspect of human nature and personality, and renders...
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    Re: Please pray for my Mom and Dad

    Praying brother.
  5. Re: A nice video on why the King James bible is NOT the inspired word of God

    My bad ..........
  6. Re: A nice video on why the King James bible is NOT the inspired word of God

    when it comes to deductions I can say with great confidence that Jesus is the eternal Son of God and is fully God and fully man. This is not explicitly said in scripture but can be deduced from...
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    Re: Does the NT have any new lessons to teach?

    I dont really see anything new per say but i do see types and shadows come to fulfillment. For me in terms of soteriology Men are sent to the law to see their own shortcomings and if they dont see...
  8. Re: A nice video on why the King James bible is NOT the inspired word of God

    I summed it up in post 8 Boo. If your really interested in a detailed perspective, i'll go look for paper on it, but let me know beforehand if you need it please. Your concern about people being...
  9. Re: A nice video on why the King James bible is NOT the inspired word of God

    To be blunt about it, i dont really care what most people are claiming when they talk about 'sola scriptura' either we take words and phrases (i.e sola scriptura) for what they historically mean or...
  10. Re: A nice video on why the King James bible is NOT the inspired word of God

    Sola Scriptura is not related to various translations it is the belief that Scripture alone is the final authority when it comes to theology and the Christian teaching, not the pope or the priest....
  11. Re: Why would God allow a being to be born who He knows will become a murderer or rap

    Seemingly the most fortuitous events are ordered by God. proverbs 16:33



    God is telling David what will happen if he stays, These future event will happen, this is foreknowledge of future...
  12. Re: Why would God allow a being to be born who He knows will become a murderer or rap

    Yes you seem to bring it up every now and then i think we have discussed more than once. Thank you for being honest and saying its because you have a problem reconciling the love of God and the...
  13. Re: Why would God allow a being to be born who He knows will become a murderer or rap

    So to go back to the op, it seems your saying God didn't know these people would grow up and be murderers and rapists ?

    I'm not going to contend it any further as i think my position is clear,...
  14. Re: Why would God allow a being to be born who He knows will become a murderer or rap

    I have read your explanation and repeating examples without addressing the logical inconsistency really proves nothing. Because God knows what you will eat for breakfast tomorrow does not by...
  15. Re: Why would God allow a being to be born who He knows will become a murderer or rap

    Not so the burden is on the person proposing a premise whether its positive or negative is irrelevant. Athiest think they have no need to prove their worldview is coherent as they say it a negative...
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    Re: How long did it take Man to fall ?

    No i dont see it as a bad thing at all David, I agree with you, as long as there is sufficient warrant to speculate its interesting to think about these things. Regarding your hypothetical, the verse...
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    Re: How long did it take Man to fall ?

    It's also speculation (ridiculous or not) to say they did. All we know for sure is that when Adam "knew" his wife she conceived and bore a son. This was post fall. But yeah there is a lot of...
  18. Re: Why would God allow a being to be born who He knows will become a murderer or rap

    This and 12 legged elephants are just examples of things that dont exist. I dont see what this has in relation is to God knowing all things possible and true. God knows all things that can...
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    Re: How long did it take Man to fall ?

    As i said i wouldn't harang you into adopting these because you are not a protestant but these creeds are a historical record of orthodox protestant Christianity and as a prototest Christian i...
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    I don't see any relevance at all in citing things that dont exist and saying see God doesn't know this because it doesnt exist...this proves what exactly when talking about future event that will...
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    I have no problem with this at all.



    The context is applicable to this topic.



    This is a poor example and not applicable to this situation as faulty knowledge on the part of a human...
  22. Re: Why would God allow a being to be born who He knows will become a murderer or rap

    God is limited by the existence of things in order to know them ? if true this makes prophecy null and void. If He "knows" the end from the beginning then does this not disprove your statement...
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    Re: How long did it take Man to fall ?

    Your code of orthodoxy may not hold these doctrines as a standard for orthodoxy but as i have said historic Protestantism does. Your not a protestant so i wont harang you into adopting my beliefs.
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  24. Re: Why would God allow a being to be born who He knows will become a murderer or rap

    Without the bleak darkness of sin how would we know how just He is ? i think our hear felt cries for justice will be fulfilled on judgment day and His glory will be revealed and we will praise Him. I...
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    Re: How long did it take Man to fall ?

    Agreed...But Adam can be used as a proper name. The only thing that interest me is the Jewish elders seem to go with this which maybe gives it some more puff so to speak, maybe Fenris will chime in...
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    Re: How long did it take Man to fall ?

    Ok lets look at it again. Point 6. He fell so soon, that the work of redemption might be the more illustrious, since man could not stand one day without the Mediator's help.

    You will see the...
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    Re: How long did it take Man to fall ?

    Yeah its not contended that it is speculative, i'm not convinced either. Regarding point 6 i fail to see how it is circular at all, it is however speculative, but i guess you got fed up writing...
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    Re: How long did it take Man to fall ?

    I was looking to see if i could get Maimonides take on this as per the source cited in the op. found this instead just as a side;

    Parshas Bireishis

    The famous Yom HaShishi, the sixth day of...
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    Re: How long did it take Man to fall ?

    If you read the post you would see an argument being presented if you care to comment on that. Scripture doesn't say a lot of things explicitly but can nevertheless be deduced. A case has been made...
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    How long did it take Man to fall ?

    Never heard this theory before and thought it might be of some interest. Taken from (Marrow of modern divinity)



    The learned Gataker, [apud Pol. Synop. Crit. in Genesis 3:23,] owns it to be...
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