The Law ( 10 commandments)

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I was looking at of 492 denominations that are, or have begun to observe the Sabbath (Saturday). Last I read, there are over 500 now. Either we are moving forward by going home, or we are moving backward by leaving home

Were goin home Clifton. Back to the mountain.


MATT.15 [22] And, behold, a woman of Canaan came out of the same coasts, and cried unto him, saying, Have mercy on me, O Lord, thou Son of David; my daughter is grievously vexed with a devil.[23] But he answered her not a word. And his disciples came and besought him, saying, Send her away; for she crieth after us.[24] But he answered and said, I AM NOT SENT BUT UNTO THE LOST SHEEP of the house of Israel.

Jesus said "I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel"

JEREMIAH 50 [4] IN THOSE DAYS, and in that time, saith the Lord, the children of Israel shall come, they and the children of Judah together, going and weeping: they shall go, and seek the Lord their God. [5] They shall ask the way to Zion with their faces thitherward, saying, Come, and let us join ourselves to the Lord in a perpetual covenant that shall not be forgotten. [6] MY PEOPLE HATH BEEN LOST SHEEP: their shepherds have caused them to go astray, they have turned them away on the mountains: THEY HAVE GONE FROM MOUNTAIN TO HILL, THEY HAVE FORGOTTEN THEIR RESTINGPLACE.

Lost sheep go from the mountain to the hill. Why? They forgot their resting place. The sabbath?

ISAIAH 2 [2] And it shall come to pass IN THE LAST DAYS, that the mountain of THE LORD'S HOUSE SHALL BE ESTABLISHED IN THE TOP OF THE MOUNTAINS, AND SHALL BE EXALTED ABOVE THE HILLS; and all nations shall flow unto it. [3] And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the Lord, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for out of zion shall go forth the law, and THE WORD OF THE LORD FROM JERUSALEM.

Look what happens in the last days. Its back to the mountain

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2Co 3:17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.).

Many who read above scripture will claim we need not keep the 10 commandments because we walk in liberty from them. Scripture does not say that.

JAMES 2 [10] For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.[11] For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law.[12] So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be JUDGED BY THE LAW OF LIBERTY

Do not commit adultry, do not kill (the 10 commandments) and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty. Keep ALL 10. Ya practice to break one, your guilty of all {verse 10}. You are a transgressor.

JAMES 1 [22] But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.[23] For if any be a hearer of the word, and not a doer, he is like unto a man beholding his natural face in a glass:[24] For he beholdeth himself, and goeth his way, and straightway forgetteth what manner of man he was.[25] But whoso looketh into THE PERFECT LAW OF LIBERTY, and continueth therein, he being NOT A FORGETFUL HEARER, BUT A DOER OF THE WORK, this man shall be blessed in his deed.

ROMANS 2 [12] For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law; [13] (For NOT THE HEARERS OF THE LAW ARE JUST before God, but THE DOERS OF THE LAW SHALL BE JUSTIFIED.

The perfect law of liberty. Blessed be the man that be a doer of the work. Work??? Bad word for some.

PSALM 119 [42] So shall I have wherewith to answer him that reproacheth me: for I trust in thy word.[43] And take not the word of truth utterly out of my mouth; for I have hoped in thy judgments.[44] So shall I KEEP THY LAW continually for ever and ever.[45] And I WILL WALK AT LIBERTY: for I seek thy precepts.[46] I will speak of thy testimonies also before kings, and will not be ashamed.[47] And I WILL DELIGHT MYSELF IN THY COMMANDMENTS, which I have loved.

So shall I keep thy law continually AND delight myself in thy commandments and WILL WALK AT LIBERTY. That cant be misinterpreted

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Were goin home Clifton. Back to the mountain.


MATT.15 [22] And, behold, a woman of Canaan came out of the same coasts, and cried unto him, saying, Have mercy on me, O Lord, thou Son of David; my daughter is grievously vexed with a devil.[23] But he answered her not a word. And his disciples came and besought him, saying, Send her away; for she crieth after us.[24] But he answered and said, I AM NOT SENT BUT UNTO THE LOST SHEEP of the house of Israel.

Jesus said "I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel"

JEREMIAH 50 [4] IN THOSE DAYS, and in that time, saith the Lord, the children of Israel shall come, they and the children of Judah together, going and weeping: they shall go, and seek the Lord their God. [5] They shall ask the way to Zion with their faces thitherward, saying, Come, and let us join ourselves to the Lord in a perpetual covenant that shall not be forgotten. [6] MY PEOPLE HATH BEEN LOST SHEEP: their shepherds have caused them to go astray, they have turned them away on the mountains: THEY HAVE GONE FROM MOUNTAIN TO HILL, THEY HAVE FORGOTTEN THEIR RESTINGPLACE.

Lost sheep go from the mountain to the hill. Why? They forgot their resting place. The sabbath?

ISAIAH 2 [2] And it shall come to pass IN THE LAST DAYS, that the mountain of THE LORD'S HOUSE SHALL BE ESTABLISHED IN THE TOP OF THE MOUNTAINS, AND SHALL BE EXALTED ABOVE THE HILLS; and all nations shall flow unto it. [3] And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the Lord, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for out of zion shall go forth the law, and THE WORD OF THE LORD FROM JERUSALEM.

Look what happens in the last days. Its back to the mountain

The above stuff can be found in other scriptures

MATT.15 [22] And, behold, a woman of Canaan came out of the same coasts, and cried unto him, saying, Have mercy on me, O Lord, thou Son of David; my daughter is grievously vexed with a devil.[23] But he answered her not a word. And his disciples came and besought him, saying, Send her away; for she crieth after us.[24] But he answered and said, I AM NOT SENT BUT UNTO THE LOST SHEEP of the house of Israel.

Jesus said "I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel"

JER.50 [4] In those days, and in that time, saith the LORD, the children of Israel shall come, they and the children of Judah together, going and weeping: they shall go, and seek the LORD their God.[5] They shall ask the way to Zion with their faces thitherward, saying, Come, and let us join ourselves to the LORD in A PERPETUAL COVENANT that shall not be forgotten.[6] MY PEOPLE HATH BEEN LOST SHEEP: their shepherds have caused them to go astray, they have turned them away on the mountains: they have gone from mountain to hill, THEY HAVE FORGOTTEN THEIR RESTINGPLACE.

My people hath been lost sheep
they have forgotten their restingplace (they sure have)
let us join ourselves to the LORD in a perpetual covenant that shall not be forgotten (remember the…)

Well, In Jeremiah we can find the sheep that Jesus came for. The remnant of the lost 10 tribes of the children of Israel, who believe they are nothing more than gentiles. Have the many been decieved, just as the new testament says. The sabbath rest has been forgotten, but as you can see, the lost sheep that Jesus came for will return to the “perpetual covenant” and keep Gods sabbath day. In Jer.50 you find the words “they have forgotten their restingplace” and the 4th commandment begins with “remember the sabbath”.

EXODUS 31[15] Six days may work be done; but in THE SEVENTH IS THE SABBATH of rest, holy to the LORD: whosoever doeth any work in the sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death.[16] Wherefore the children of Israel shall keep the sabbath, to observe the sabbath throughout their generations, for a PERPETUAL COVENANT.[17] It is a sign between me and the children of Israel for ever: for in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed.

This is really great. If you have a KJV bible you will find the words “PERPETUAL COVENANT” only in these 2 scriptures. Jer. 50 and Exodus 31. Exodus 31 speaks of the sabbath as a “perpetual covenant” and Jer.50 speaks of that “perpetual covenant” being forgotten by His people.

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We Christians were actually givin many warnings about the bad guys and what they would do. The warnings are all around the new testament.

1 PETER 5 [8] Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a ROARING LION, walketh about, SEEKING WHOM HE MAY DEVOUR:

Watch out for these roaring lions!

MATT.7 [14] Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.[15]Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are RAVENING WOLVES.

Beware of false these prophets. They are RAVENING WOLVES. Also implied here is that “the many” will follow these false prophets and but a few will take the way of life. Thats exactly what has happened

ACTS 20 [29] For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous WOLVES ENTER IN among you, not sparing the flock.[30]Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, TO DRAW AWAY DISCIPLES after them.

The GRIEVOUS WOLVES were there from the beginning

EPH.4 [17] This I say therefore, and testify in the Lord, that ye henceforth WALK NOT AS OTHER GENTILES walk, in the VANITYof their mind,[18] Having the understanding darkened, being alienated from the life of God through the ignorance that is in them, because of the blindness oftheir heart:[19] Who being past feeling have given themselves over untolasciviousness, to work all UNCLEANNESS with GREEDINESS.

Well, I found all these warnings from the newtestament in one scripture. The Day of the Lord scriptures are so great. Since “that day” has not yet arrived no one can claim that the scripture is for ancient Israel and does not apply to christians. Day of the Lord scriptures do apply to christians(those who believe that Jesus came) and these scriptures will come to pass. To see what these ROARING LIONS and RAVENOUS WOLVES have done, simply read and believe the Word.

EZEK.22 [23] And the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,[24] Son of man, say unto her, Thou art the land that is not cleansed, nor rained upon in the day of indignation.[25] There is A CONSPIRACY OF HER PROPHETS in the midst thereof, like a ROARING LION ravening the prey; THEY HAVE DEVOURED SOULS; they have taken the treasure and precious things; theyhave made her many widows in the midst thereof.[26] HER PRIESTS HAVE VIOLATED MY LAW, and have profaned mine holy things: they have put no difference between the holy and profane, neither have they shewed difference between the UNCLEAN AND THE CLEAN, and HAVE HID THEIR EYES FROM MY SABBATHS, and I am profaned among them.[27] Her princes in the midst thereof are like WOLVES RAVENING THE PREY, to shed blood, and to destroy souls, to get DISHONEST GAIN.[28] And her prophets have daubed them with untempered morter, SEEING VANITY, and divininglies unto them, saying, Thus saith the Lord GOD, when the LORD hath not spoken

A conspiracy of the prophets. HID THEIR EYESFROM MY SABBATHS! They meant to do it and they sure did pull it off despite thewarnings. he's a tricky little devil

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I believe the apostles, answered this question after the gentiles received salvation, when men from Judea went to the gentiles and told them they had to be circumcised to be saved, Paul and Barnabas strongly opposed them because they taught that salvation was through Jesus, because they knew no man could be saved by obeying the law. Acts 15

ACTS 15 [17] That the residue of men might seek after the Lord, and all the Gentiles, upon whom my name is called, saith the Lord, who doeth all these things. [18] Known unto God are all his works from the beginning of the world. [19] Wherefore my sentence is, that we trouble not them, which from among THE GENTILES are turned to God: [20] But that we write unto them, that THEY ABSTAIN FROM POLLUTIONS OF IDOLS, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood. [21] For Moses of old time hath in every city them that preach him, being read in the synagogues every sabbath day.

Acts 15 as a whole was speaking as to whether gentiles needed to be circumcized or not. Nothing to do with the 10 commandments.So lets look into what pollution of idols {V 20} is all about. What I found was very as always, when you let scripture interpret scripture

LEVITICUS 19 [3] Ye shall fear every man his mother, and his father, and KEEP MY SABBATHS: I am the Lord your God. [4] TURN YE NOT UNTO IDOLS, NOR MAKE TO YOURSELVES MOLTEN GODS: I am the Lord your God.

LEVITICUS 26 [1]Ye shall MAKE YOU NO IDOLS NOR GRAVEN IMAGE, neither rear you up a standing image, neither shall ye set up any image of stone in your land, to bow down unto it: for I am the Lord your God. [2] YE SHALL KEEP MY SABBATHS, and reverence my sanctuary: I am the Lord.

EZEKIEL 20 [16]Because they despised my judgments, and walked not in my statutes, BUT POLLUTED MY SABBATHS: FOR THEIR HEART WENT AFTER THEIR IDOLS.

I don’t know what the connection might be as to why graven images and idols are a sign that you don’t keep Gods sabbath but if the WORD says so I believe it. I know the churches that do keep the sabbath don’t have any standing images or crosses. Well, least the ones I know. Also, the guys and gals that go to these churches dont wear molten gods about their necks.

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There is a contradiction i am having a problem with " the Law " should i be keeping the 10 commandments ? some say Jesus done away with the law and we no longer have to be strict in obedience to it, some say it's just a guide on how to be a good person and please the Lord. But the Lord said he did not come to abolish the he came to fulfill the law, so should we therefore keep the law as the Jews the believe in Jesus do ? If so how can i keep the sabbath holy if all the churchs congregate on sunday since the catholic church brought it in. The only church that i am aware of that keeps the sabbath is the seventh day adventist church but i do not want to go there as i do not believe some of what they teach, i find it hard to even find a church that is true to the word am talking about preachers like paul washer and alike ! i like there message but no one seems to be doing it. Any way I try to keep the ten commandments but the sabbath is a puzzler to me and help is needed !!!! thanks

"For the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ that we might be justified by faith. But after that faith is come we are no longer under a schoolmaster."

Some people misinterpret what Paul said about us being no longer under the law as a contradiction of what Jesus said about Himself not coming to abolish the law but to fulfill it. There is not a contradiction at all. When Jesus said He came to fulfill the law He was actually saying He came to finalize it, wrap it up, finish it and end it.

"For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one who believes."

In old testament times the priests and levites in the temple had to keep coming back year after year to offer up the blood of bulls and goats and sheep on the altar for the sins of the people.

"For the law having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of those things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers therunto perfect. but in those sacrifices there is a remembrance again of sins every year. For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins."

So Jesus came and offered up Himself once and for all for the sins of the wpople. So that we don't have to keep the law in order to be justified and forgiven for our sins. We just have to believe in Jesus. That's what Paul was talking about when he said that Christ was the "end of the law."

"By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body ofJesus Christ once and for all.But this Man, after He had offered one sacrifice for sins forever, sat down on the right hand of God. From henceforth expecting till His enemies be made His footstool. For by one offering He hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified."

Jesus makes us perfect by cleansing us from all our sins if we only believe in Him. That's why Paul says we are "freely justified by His grace. We cannot and are not justified by keeping the laws of Moses. We can only be justified by believing in Jesus. Righteousness is automatically imputed upon us by Faith.

So this doesn't mean that it is now ok to commit murder, covet our neighbors wife, or possessions, or disobey any of the spritual laws God gave us. But it does mean that we are all imperfect human beings who are all sinners (For all have sinned and come short of the glory of God) and that the only way we can be saved and justified is by recieving forgivness for our sins by believing in Jesus, Not by keeping or obeying the law. Keeping the law does not justify you or help you make it to heaven, and disobeying the law does not ensure your place in Hell. The only thing that justifies you and takes you to heaven is believeing in Jesus, and the only thing that sends you to hell is rejection of Jesus.

The commandment that the Lord gave us that replaces the old testament, what Jesus Himself called the new testament of His blood, is to love one another. As far as keeping the Sabbath is concerned It was first introduced by God as a day of rest, since God had rested the seventh day,after He created the world. It's still good to take a day of rest, but since we are not under the legalism of the law anymore, we don't necessarily have to have our day of rest on the 7th day, Saturday. It could be Sunday or Friday or any other day of the week. No Christians are being disobedient to God just because they chose Sunday as a day of rest instead of Saturday. Personnally I think Sunday is a good day to "keep holy the Lord's day" because the most important part of our beliefs is the resurrection of Jesus from the dead and the resurrection took place on the first day of the week.

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"For the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ that we might be justified by faith. But after that faith is come we are no longer under a schoolmaster."

Some people misinterpret what Paul said about us being no longer under the law as a contradiction of what Jesus said about Himself not coming to abolish the law but to fulfill it. There is not a contradiction at all. When Jesus said He came to fulfill the law He was actually saying He came to finalize it, wrap it up, finish it and end it.

"For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one who believes."

In old testament times the priests and levites in the temple had to keep coming back year after year to offer up the blood of bulls and goats and sheep on the altar for the sins of the people.

"For the law having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of those things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers therunto perfect. but in those sacrifices there is a remembrance again of sins every year. For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins."

So Jesus came and offered up Himself once and for all for the sins of the wpople. So that we don't have to keep the law in order to be justified and forgiven for our sins. We just have to believe in Jesus. That's what Paul was talking about when he said that Christ was the "end of the law."

"By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body ofJesus Christ once and for all.But this Man, after He had offered one sacrifice for sins forever, sat down on the right hand of God. From henceforth expecting till His enemies be made His footstool. For by one offering He hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified."

Jesus makes us perfect by cleansing us from all our sins if we only believe in Him. That's why Paul says we are "freely justified by His grace. We cannot and are not justified by keeping the laws of Moses. We can only be justified by believing in Jesus. Righteousness is automatically imputed upon us by Faith.

So this doesn't mean that it is now ok to commit murder, covet our neighbors wife, or possessions, or disobey any of the spritual laws God gave us. But it does mean that we are all imperfect human beings who are all sinners (For all have sinned and come short of the glory of God) and that the only way we can be saved and justified is by recieving forgivness for our sins by believing in Jesus, Not by keeping or obeying the law. Keeping the law does not justify you or help you make it to heaven, and disobeying the law does not ensure your place in Hell. The only thing that justifies you and takes you to heaven is believeing in Jesus, and the only thing that sends you to hell is rejection of Jesus.

The commandment that the Lord gave us that replaces the old testament, what Jesus Himself called the new testament of His blood, is to love one another. As far as keeping the Sabbath is concerned It was first introduced by God as a day of rest, since God had rested the seventh day,after He created the world. It's still good to take a day of rest, but since we are not under the legalism of the law anymore, we don't necessarily have to have our day of rest on the 7th day, Saturday. It could be Sunday or Friday or any other day of the week. No Christians are being disobedient to God just because they chose Sunday as a day of rest instead of Saturday. Personnally I think Sunday is a good day to "keep holy the Lord's day" because the most important part of our beliefs is the resurrection of Jesus from the dead and the resurrection took place on the first day of the week.

Gal 3:19 Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator.

What was added?

Deu 5:22 These words the LORD spake unto all your assembly in the mount out of the midst of the fire, of the cloud, and of the thick darkness, with a great voice: and he added no more. And he wrote them in two tables of stone, and delivered them unto me.

The Ten Commandments were God's law...

Exo 31:18 And he gave unto Moses, when he had made an end of communing with him upon mount Sinai, two tables of testimony, tables of stone, written with the finger of God.

Deu 9:10 And the LORD delivered unto me two tables of stone written with the finger of God; and on them was written according to all the words, which the LORD spake with you in the mount out of the midst of the fire in the day of the assembly.

Now what did Moses give? The Law of Moses, inspired by God, but not the Law of God for all time...

Deu 31:9 And Moses wrote this law, and delivered it unto the priests the sons of Levi, which bare the ark of the covenant of the LORD, and unto all the elders of Israel.

The Temple regulations, the statutes and ordinances that Israel was to govern by and the sacrificial laws. God did not give the sacrificial laws on Mt Sinai...

Jer 7:22 For I spake not unto your fathers, nor commanded them in the day that I brought them out of the land of Egypt, concerning burnt offerings or sacrifices:
Jer 7:23 But this thing commanded I them, saying, Obey my voice, and I will be your God, and ye shall be my people: and walk ye in all the ways that I have commanded you, that it may be well unto you.

The book of Hebrews makes it pretty plain that the laws that were changed were the sacrificial laws and the Priesthood, from a Levitical, Aaronical Priesthood to the Priesthood of Melchisidec. Once Christ became the sacrifice for man, the animal sacrifices were no longer necessary to point to Him. Right about now would be a good time to apply...

Col 2:16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
Col 2:17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.

The sacrificial laws were were a shadow of what Christ accomplished with His death, burial and resurrection.

Paul, himself, says the law was not ended...

Rom 10:4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.

Word here for end is...

G5056
τέλος
telos
tel'-os
From a primary word τέλλω tellō (to set out for a definite point or goal); properly the point aimed at as a limit, that is, (by implication) the conclusion of an act or state (termination [literally, figuratively or indefinitely], result [immediate, ultimate or prophetic], purpose); specifically an impost or levy (as paid): - + continual, custom, end (-ing), finally, uttermost. Compare G5411.

Because...

1Pe 2:21 For even hereunto were ye called: because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps:

What was Christ's example? Did He break the law?

Mat 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
Mat 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

Paul agrees...

Rom 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.