Homosexuality

[abidinglife]

hmm it really depends, i do agree mostly with what hisleast has said. But i definately think that homosexuality is a sin, fullstop. No exceptions, God has said it, and his word is law.

When the poll says gay, does it mean repentant gay or just unrepentent totally think it's okay gay?? I voted that they would get to heaven as i assumed the former.

[lost_little_one]

It really hinges on your definition of gay or homos*xual.

[jmj]

I put the first one- because I think homosexuality is a sin in any shape or form- I believe sex to be a physical, spiritual, emotional commitment to each other and to God to be with the other person for the rest of their lives, and I believe any sexual activity is a sin if it isn't what God originally designed sex to be, which is depicted exactly in Genesis- between one woman and one man in marriage.

That being said, I voted yes to someone being gay and a Christian because I believe that someone can have a gay sexual orientation, but when they become a Christian they say yes to following Jesus and turning away from their old lives and deciding to become celibate for the rest of their lives and serve God instead of their own sinful desires that belong to the world and their flesh, and instead to follow God's desires.

[Buck shot]

I believe that you cannot be a gay Christian. You can be a Christian who still struggles with gay feelings just as a Christian that still struggles with wanting to just hang out and drink but you cannot be a drunk Christian.

Many of us have put off the old man but then turn and put the old stuff back in our pockets until the Lord presses on us to throw it out.


Col 3:8But now ye also put off all these; anger, wrath, malice, blasphemy, filthy communication out of your mouth.
9Lie not one to another, seeing that ye have put off the old man with his deeds; 10And have put on the new man, which is renewed in knowledge after the image of him that created him:

[MrAnteater]

Some have questioned why this topic keeps coming up.

My answer is this. There are Christian people who will tell you homosexuality is OK, doesn't violate God's truths, and see nothing wrong with living in a homosexual relationship. It's shocking to me that people claiming to be saved Christians are so fiercely defending homosexuality.

Homosexuality isn't some vague, one line in the bible, easily misunderstood commandment of God. God speaks out against homosexuality over and over and over again. It is not his plan and it's something he does not condone.

[ChristianKnight]

Gays are sinning and they know it, hence cannot be a Christian. That is like saying a Serial Killer that kills people while saying he is a Christian is false.

[EmoAngel]

It's a sin and no you can't be a gay Christian.

[LadyinWaiting]

Personally, since homosexuality itself is the attraction (does not HAVE to include acts); I think some may feel an attraction and yet still be saved (and have the will-power to avoid said acts).

However, it is NOT for me to judge someone's salvation. My aunt was raised in the church, Christian parents, reportedly saved and baptized as a young child. She married, and a few gorgeous children, and then decided to divorce him and be a lesbian. I don't think that negates salvation as a child since I believe that once we're saved, we're always saved. I do know that she will be called to the floor to be accountable for that decision and all subsequent issues because she thinks they are correct.

I find her sliding back into the worldly ways, but that doesn't discount her salvation because the only one who can judge a person's soul is God.

There are Christians who are engaging in p*rn each and every day. They are also the sexually immoral. However, no one seems to question their salvation experience.

I just view immorality as immorality. People get caught up and mired in sin each and every day. Thankfully we have a Savior who does forgive (when we ask).

"Gays are sinning and they know it, hence cannot be a Christian."
Those who lie are sinning (yet almost all Christians will do it at least once within any given week.) Those who do not dedicate time to studying the Word and learning Scripture are also sinning (yet how many of us sit in front of our computers or in front of our TV for hours without cracking a Bible). Those who get angry or curse are also sinning. Those who seek revenge are sinning. All of those things can be done KNOWING it's a sin. So does that mean that no one is able to be saved?

Don't get me wrong. Homosexuality is not of God, there is nothing beneficial or holy about it. It most certainly is not okay. I just don't think it's right of us to judge someone's salvation when some have been blinded by the world and need people encouraging a lifestyle change and repentance before they need someone to throw a Bible at them and say there is no possible way they were ever saved.

I've done some horrible things in my past, and continued in several sins multiple times and for years, knowing they were wrong. Thankfully, God delivered me from them and I'm on the other side of it now (no, I never dabbled in homosexuality...so don't think that, please). I don't think I was "unsaved" (I accepted Christ as my savior when I was in grade school). I do think that I chose to wander from God, like many do. Thankfully, many of us find our ways home to God's forgiving arms like the Prodigal in the scriptures.

"Oh to Grace how great a debtor daily I'm constrained to be. Let thy goodness, like a fetter, bind my wandering heart to thee. Prone to wander, Lord I feel it. Prone to leave the God I love. " <- The man who wrote those words was later convicted by them as he had been the one to wander and leave AFTER writing such eloquent words. As the song says though, "Here's my heart, Lord, take and seal it. Seal it for thy courts above."

Praise God for His forgiveness and for allowing us to return to him.

[RZ06]

I do feel homosexuality is a sin, but I do not judge someone who chooses to be gay. It's not up to me to decide someone's fate. Who am I to say they are not a Christian? People who claim to be Christian's create sin everyday (namely, me). Why is my sin any better?

[Slug1]

I do feel homosexuality is a sin, but I do not judge someone who chooses to be gay. It's not up to me to decide someone's fate. Who am I to say they are not a Christian? People who claim to be Christian's create sin everyday (namely, me). Why is my sin any better?

The difference is you have identified what is sin, while homosexuals do not identify this act of relations with the same sex as a sin. That is the difference. A Christian will be convicted by their faith in Jesus what is sin and since the Bible is clear that this is a sin and a Christian who says it is not... needs to be corrected with the Truth.

I agree we are not to judge whether they are a true Christian for that is only for Jesus to do but there is nothing stopping a Christian from helping such a person to understand the Truth and help them correct this and stop living in sin, IOW's repent and stop being homosexual.

[theteacherspet]

I think you can be gay and also be a Christian, yes, and I know people who are leading that life right now.

[Athanasius]

I think you can be gay and also be a Christian, yes, and I know people who are leading that life right now.

I'm wondering if you could provide for me (or us?) passages of scripture that condone continued living in sin after repentence and acceptance of Christ?

[harry]

there's a very talented musician called stephen hough who thinks it's ok to be a gay christian.

http://www.stephenhough.com

wikipedia says : He has also published THE BIBLE AS PRAYER: a handbook for lectio divina.[5]
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how do i happen to know this? i've just started a book called a church at war - anglicans and homosexuality : link to publishers below

http://www.ibtauris.com/display.asp?...itle&m=7&dc=27

i'm reading the updated paperback version. i'll let you all know if it's a happy ending. in the short-term, i guess, almost certainly not.

in response to daughter - shoplifting and vandalism require less remedial action than homosexual behaviour IMO.

[Slug1]

I'm wondering if you could provide for me (or us?) passages of scripture that condone continued living in sin after repentence and acceptance of Christ?

I agree, I'm sure that if a murderer was a "Christian" and continued to kill a few times a month that the truth of their salvation would be in question by many, many Christians. Amazing how the sin of active relations between the same sex goes on without question with many Christians and some even say it's OK. satan has done a great job on this one

[NHL Fever]

I think the poll is inadequate because it doesn't differentiate between the guy who recognizes he likes dudes (like the alcoholic who recognizes he likes beer), and the guy who recognizes he likes dudes and thinks its ok.