Jehovah Witness coming to your house

[thethinker]

This is one of the reasons I don't endorse newer versions of the Bible. If a JW came to someone's door who uses one of these versions that you mentioned, and offered that argument, they would be able to show the person the error of their thinking. And it would validate the JW theory. I don't know if the JW's use versions other than KJV. I've never given that much thought till now.

We need to be strong in our study of Scripture so that we have an answer for them when they "prove" that they are correct in their thinking. Too many of us basically know what we believe, but if confronted with someone who disputes the truth, we don't know where to go to show them WHY we believe what we believe. And this is when the JW's can "beat us up" with Scripture.

God Bless.

The JWs use the New World Translation and ironically it translates John 3:16 literally, "only BEGOTTEN" Son. It is their view of the term "son" that prevents them from coming to the truth that "begotten" means that Jesus is the "only Son that is God's KIND".

[graceforme]

The JWs use the New World Translation and ironically it translates John 3:16 literally, "only BEGOTTEN" Son. It is their view of the term "son" that prevents them from coming to the truth that "begotten" means that Jesus is the "only Son that is God's KIND".

Thanks for posting this information. I wonder if they ever used the KJV before all the others became so popular.

They fully believe that their interpretation is correct, don't they? And, we have to admit, they defend their belief with determination.

[Sonshine]

There us to be a book out called, "How to witness to a Jehovahs Witness". I don't know if it's still in print or not.

A word of caution, most JW know what the Bible says. If you are going to discuss the Bible with them be prepared. They will use your Bible and show you scriptures that support their beliefs.

[thethinker]

There us to be a book out called, "How to witness to a Jehovahs Witness". I don't know if it's still in print or not.

A word of caution, most JW know what the Bible says. If you are going to discuss the Bible with them be prepared. They will use your Bible and show you scriptures that support their beliefs.

Yes they do use the Christian Bible. They come to my house with three tools: their translation, the Christian Bible, and the Greek-English interlinear translation.

I use the exact same tools except for the interlinear translation. I prefer the Greek text itself.

[Cretan1986]

Hello all. I am new here. I am a JW and I found this discussion so I decide to participate. I found an interesting post here and I want some clarifications if it's possible.

1. They have prophesied to them events that would come to pass which haven't. (This contravines the passage about how you can tell if a prophet comes from God.)

Please clarify, is an interpretation of a prophecy, a prophecy?

2. They have twisted scholarly quotes against their translation to make it look like they are for it.

Please tell me what we have misquoted.

3. Only scripture verses relating to Jesus and His deity have been changed.

I suppose you talk about NWT.Give these verses and explain why they could not be translated in the way of NWT.

4. They aren't allowed to study the bible on their own or with anyone outside their organisation because they will come to believe in the trinity. (or other apostate doctrines)

Wrong. Think simple, if you offer me a bible study will I accept? Of course. If I offer you a bible study, will you accept? Also we study the bible on my own. To become and remain a JW you have to study the bible on your own

5. The people who run the organisation are human (therefore sinful). In light of that how can you trust them without testing them to see if they acually come from God?

Before someone become JW test if the teachings of JW are according to the bible.

[David Taylor]

All this stuff really boils down to one single foundational problem with the JW religion.

They follow a different jesus.

The jesus of the Watchtower is a created bring and not Eternal, divine, God who alone can forgive sins.

Their jesus cant forgive his own sins, much less the sins of all humanity. They augment this deficeit, by creating a works-based religion which cannot save.

Pray that the Holy Spirit will reach this JW's heart to seek and find the real, true Jesus.

[Longsufferer]

“…Go not from house to house.”
(Luke.10:7c)

[Joe King]

Well, I am not trying to convert them, but trying to let them know I don't believe their crap, and that they need to leave people alone.

That's the same attitude Christians, Mormons, Muslims all face. It doesn't make it right. You should simply explain why you disagree by saying that you believe that Jesus is the son of God and died to redeem ALL of mankind. That should end the discussion and make Jesus happy at the same time.

[chal]

My parents told me they have had Jehovah Witness come to our house once or twice, I just want to ask this about it. What should one do if they do come? Should I try to talk to them outside about god religions and stuff, and try to understand why they don't believen Jesus?

I find it kinda funny that they have a tier in their religion, something like Watch Tower, some kind of magazine or something that they read and follow?

I invited them in. I spent over a year studying with JW's, with the agreement that they would not pressure me into any of their beliefs or ask me to join their church. The result was that I learned about their religion and they learned about mine. They (two different couples) were never rude or obnoxious as JWs are sometimes characterized.

I had to laugh, because at the time, I was working and living in a homeless shelter across the street from a crack (dealer's) house and most of the people in the shelter were more afraid of the JW's at the dooor with their Bibles and their little tracts, than they were of the crack dealers with their drugs and guns on the corner.

[chal]

“…Go not from house to house.”
(Luke.10:7c)

chal> For consideration;

5 And into whatever house you may enter, first say, Peace to this house.
6 And if a son of peace is truly there, your peace shall rest on it; but if not so, it shall return to you.
7 And remain in the same house, eating and drinking the things shared by them; for the laborer is worthy of his hire. Do not move from house to house.

chal> IMO,the context seems to be in reference to food. They could not very well enter into a house without first going to it and I doubt that it means that they should stop presenting the Gospel if the first one refused them.

It seems to be connected to this in the previous verse;

6 And if a son of peace is truly there,

IOW, if a son of peace is there and your peace rests on it, there is no reason to move from house to house, even if you don't like the food.

The problem I have with JWs is not the method of delivery, but the inaccuracy of the content, i.e, denial of Jesus' divinity.

Matthew Henry's Commentary
5. They must receive the kindnesses of those that should entertain them and bid them welcome, 7, 8 . "Those that receive the gospel will receive you that preach it, and give you entertainment; you must not think to raise estates, but you may depend upon a subsistence; and," (1.) "Be not shy; do not suspect our welcome, nor be afraid of being troublesome, but eat and drink heartily such things as they give; for, whatever kindness they show you, it is but a small return for the kindness you do them in bringing the glad tidings of peace. You will deserve it, for the labourer is worthy of his hire, the labourer in the work of the ministry is so, if he be indeed a labourer; and it is not an act of charity, but of justice, in those who are taught in the word to communicate to those that teach them" (2.) "Be not nice and curious in your diet: Eat and drink such things as they give ( 7 ), such things as are set before you, 8 . Be thankful for plain food, and do not find fault, though it be not dressed according to art." It ill becomes Christ's disciples to be desirous of dainties. As he has not tied them up to the Pharisees' superstitious fasts, so he has not allowed the luxurious feasts of the Epicureans. Probably, Christ here refers to the traditions of the elders about their meat which were so many that those who observed them were extremely critical, you could hardly set a dish of meat before them, but there was some scruple or other concerning it; but Christ would not have them to regard those things, but eat what was given them, asking no question for conscience' sake.

[daughter]

Thanks for posting this information. I wonder if they ever used the KJV before all the others became so popular.

They fully believe that their interpretation is correct, don't they? And, we have to admit, they defend their belief with determination.

I've just finished reading an exellent book by a man who was raised in the JW church, called "the Spanking Room." Apparently up till the fifties they used the KJV, but then they got anonymous "scholars" to translate it anew... and having read their version, I can only assume they are not language scholars at all.

I'm going to post a review of the Spanking Room soon, but I can't tell you how depressing the portrayal of life for a JW kid is... Thank God the man was saved. William Coburn - I think he joined this site a while ago. If you want the inside scoop on JWs, you need to read this book.

[Krav]

I always try and talk with them. I'll invite them in and sometimes they will accept, other times they will not.

However, I've studied Watchtower doctrine and theology for over 10 years. I wouldn't engage them in this way if I was ignorant of their doctrine. I think it was Dr Walter Martin who said,

"the average Witness will twist the average Christian into a doctrinal pretzel in 15 minutes."

That's because JWs receive non-stock instruction on how to challenge Christian's and the historic Christian faith. Most Christians do not have such training and thus end up dumbfounded.

If you want to "bone up" on JWs and the Watchtower a good site for you to visit is http://www.carm.org/witnesses.htm

CARM stands for Christian Apologetics and Research Ministry. You can really become informed on a whole wide array of issues over there.

One thing to know is that the forums there are pretty much all debate forums... that's the thrust of the ministry. So, if debate is your thing you might enjoy them. Otherwise, you can stick with the informational aspects of the site. They are really top-notch.

[trustingJC]

I want to thank everyone who has replied and gave their insight on how to deal with the JW's beliefs. I have learned so much! I have a younger brother who roomed with some JW's while in prison. My brother wasn't strong in his Christian faith and they definitely lead him away from the true Jesus. He was a perfect target. He has since told me that he doesn't believe in the trinity and that Jesus can't be God's son and also God. I know he wasn't 100% converted, but needless to say, what they "preached" to him while in jail has really messed him up with his faith in Jesus. He has told me that he is so lost.

He does like to test me and debate certain scriptures. I know that I have got to start studying God's Word more so that I can boldly answer him when he questions my beliefs. I have been doing a lot of studying of the Bible and I have been learning about what the JW's believe in the past few days. By doing so, my faith in Jesus has grown so much stronger.

So I just wanted to let everyone who posted a reply know what a blessing it was for me for them to do so. God bless each of you!

[Emanate]

I talked some JW's on my porch once. I started talking about the origins of the Hebrew word 'Jehovah' and they thanked me and left.

[Joe King]

I talked some JW's on my porch once. I started talking about the origins of the Hebrew word 'Jehovah' and they thanked me and left.

How long did it take you to get to that part?