We all deserve hell?

[timmyb]

Which is basic theology; that people deserve hell or that we should preach the gospel?

both... Ephesians 2

Eph 2:1 And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;
Eph 2:2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:
Eph 2:3 Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.
Eph 2:4 But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us,
Eph 2:5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved)
Eph 2:6 And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:
Eph 2:7 That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus.
Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Eph 2:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Eph 2:10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

Rom 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
Rom 10:10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
Rom 10:11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.
Rom 10:12 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.
Rom 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
Rom 10:14 How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?
Rom 10:15 And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!
Rom 10:16 But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report?
Rom 10:17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

... this is meant not to insult anyone's intelligence

[2Witnesses]

both... Ephesians 2

Eph 2:1 And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;
Eph 2:2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:
Eph 2:3 Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.
Eph 2:4 But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us,
Eph 2:5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved)
Eph 2:6 And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:
Eph 2:7 That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus.
Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Eph 2:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Eph 2:10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

Rom 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
Rom 10:10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
Rom 10:11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.
Rom 10:12 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.
Rom 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
Rom 10:14 How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?
Rom 10:15 And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!
Rom 10:16 But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report?
Rom 10:17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

... this is meant not to insult anyone's intelligence

Madoia, or Lama. That means 'Why' in Hebrew. Did God create me to hate some. Do you understand? Is there light and dark?

2Witnesses

[mikebr]

So it appears that the majority of those who have responded to my post believe that we all deserve hell. So let me ask this: Do you believe that some people deserve hell more than others or that all deserve hell equally?

For instance does an infant deserve it as much as say Hitler?

[timmyb]

Romans 3:23 for all have sinned and have fallen short of the glory of God

Jas 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.

Rom 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

my answer is yes...

[Reynolds357]

So it appears that the majority of those who have responded to my post believe that we all deserve hell. So let me ask this: Do you believe that some people deserve hell more than others or that all deserve hell equally?

For instance does an infant deserve it as much as say Hitler?

By God's standard of righteousness Yes. What you are failing to see is that individual sins are not what send one to hell. All have sinned. All are guilty of breaking the entire law. The sin that sends you to hell is failure to accept the free gift of Salvation through God's son that He so lovingly offered to us. Having said that, an infant has never had the opportunity to make a decision regarding Christ. We know from King David that God makes special provision in His grace for those who die before they reach the mental capacity to make that decision. This is where you see the grace and mercy of a "Just" God. The infant, though it is guilty of origional sin, is extended grace by a provision from our loving, "just" God.

[daughter]

So it appears that the majority of those who have responded to my post believe that we all deserve hell. So let me ask this: Do you believe that some people deserve hell more than others or that all deserve hell equally?

For instance does an infant deserve it as much as say Hitler?

Could you answer a question for me... do you think God is unjust?

[mikebr]

Could you answer a question for me... do you think God is unjust?

No!...........................What in my post made you think otherwise?

[mikebr]

If it would be more just for God to send Hitler to hell than an infant then Hitler and the infant aren't equally deserving of hell. If God is equally just when sending an infant to hell as when He sends Hitlers to hell then we are all equally deserving of hell.

Where do you stand on this?

[mikebr]

By God's standard of righteousness Yes. What you are failing to see is that individual sins are not what send one to hell. All have sinned. All are guilty of breaking the entire law. The sin that sends you to hell is failure to accept the free gift of Salvation through God's son that He so lovingly offered to us. Having said that, an infant has never had the opportunity to make a decision regarding Christ. We know from King David that God makes special provision in His grace for those who die before they reach the mental capacity to make that decision. This is where you see the grace and mercy of a "Just" God. The infant, though it is guilty of origional sin, is extended grace by a provision from our loving, "just" God.

Neither has 95% of the people who have ever lived.

[BrckBrln]

Neither has 95% of the people who have ever lived.

That sure is a stat from way out in left field. How do you figure that 95% of the people who have ever lived never had the opportunity to come to Christ? Keep in mind for a long time it was God's plan for only the Jewish people to have faith.

[mikebr]

That sure is a stat from way out in left field. How do you figure that 95% of the people who have ever lived never had the opportunity to come to Christ? Keep in mind for a long time it was God's plan for only the Jewish people to have faith.

It has been estimated that there have been 50 billion people to have lived on earth. The number of Christians is 2,039 million according to some stats. I haven't actually done the math. Maybe someone can correct me.

[BrckBrln]

It has been estimated that there have been 50 billion people to have lived on earth. The number of Christians is 2,039 million according to some stats. I haven't actually done the math. Maybe someone can correct me.

But a lot of those people have had the chance to come to Christ but they rejected him instead. And for all the people who have never heard the gospel well, God will have mercy on whom he choses and if he doesn't then he doesn't.

[JordanW]

As Christian's we need to preach the Gospel and let the righteousness of Christ be known!

[ARCHER42]

The number of Christians is 2,039 million according to some stats.

Well from what I've learned and from a Biblical perspective there is ONLY ONE PERSON.. who has the PERFECT and CORRECT statistics as far as the 'number' of Christians to have lived.... They are found in HIS BOOK.. It belongs to Jesus Christ and it's the Lamb's Book of Life. It baffles me at how man in his finite wisdom and understanding can even attempt to put a number on something that ONLY JESUS CHRIST alone has the authority on.

[Brother Mark]

Neither has 95% of the people who have ever lived.

Baloney. Abraham say Jesus day and rejoiced. When someone comes after God, God will reveal his Son to them. The Ehtiopian eunich had Jesus revealed to him. Cornelius had Jesus revealed to him. Both were seeking God and God saw to it to send a missionary. Romans 1 makes it clear that God reveals himself to all of man. If man responds to that revelation, God will send more revelation.

John 9:39-41
39 And Jesus said, "For judgment I came into this world, that those who do not see may see; and that those who see may become blind." 40 Those of the Pharisees who were with Him heard these things, and said to Him, "We are not blind too, are we?" 41 Jesus said to them, "If you were blind, you would have no sin; but since you say, 'We see,' your sin remains.
NASB

God has no issue blinding a man that refuses the light he sends to him. Jesus has made it clear that the amount of light one receives is what will be used to judge them. It will be easier in the day of judgment for Sodom and Gomorrah than it will be for the cities of Jesus day. Why? Because they would have repented had Jesus works been done in them.

So, the more light one has, if they reject that light, then the judgment is more severe.