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Thread: Joel Osteen on respecting God in our diets

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brother Mark View Post
    Except the passage says that God didn't give them over to laws, but rather that he gave them laws. They weren't man made laws, they were laws he gave them, right?
    The laws (in Eze. 20) dealing with promoting idolatry were man-made. todd

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    Perhaps the issue being discussed here is much more fundamental than it seems.

    We must understand something about the law. To a Jew, the Law is a gift from God. It is their identity. It is not a burden to them. The 'yoke' that Jesus spoke of was the impossible system of extra-biblical commands that Pharisaic Judaism added to the Law.

    Please read Psalm 119 again. Certainly the Psalmist did not regard the law as a burden.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jffl25 View Post

    Please read Psalm 119 again. Certainly the Psalmist did not regard the law as a burden.
    and neither did the Lord who authored it, kept it, and warned against those who taught against it. todd

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    Quote Originally Posted by jffl25 View Post
    Perhaps the issue being discussed here is much more fundamental than it seems.

    We must understand something about the law. To a Jew, the Law is a gift from God. It is their identity. It is not a burden to them. The 'yoke' that Jesus spoke of was the impossible system of extra-biblical commands that Pharisaic Judaism added to the Law.

    Please read Psalm 119 again. Certainly the Psalmist did not regard the law as a burden.
    And yet, those Jews missed God. They didn't see him when he came. Why? David saw him. What part of the Law did he keep in Psalms 51? Or what Law did he break when he ate the show bread?
    "May the Lamb that was slain receive the just reward for His sufferings." A quote by Moravian missionary that sold himself (along with a friend) into slavery to reach those that the slave owner prevented from hearing the gospel.

    May I live for Him and not for me.

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