First let us begin a foundation, ok?..truth is built on a foundation.
1 john 4
12 No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us. 13 Hereby know we that we dwell in him, and he in us, because he hath given us of his Spirit.
We know that while Jesus was here in the flesh, and was God, so this is speaking of "seeing God" as HE IS...in His full glory...for God is spirit.
With that foundation,
we can then build on it...as we do here:
1 Tim 6:16
15 Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords; 16 Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.
Not in God's full glory...for we must be "changed" as the bible states in order to go before His presence in full glory, and that is why christians are changed at the last trump...so, they can go into the presence of God.
Yet, the WORLD will not be changed, and, they will not be able to withstand His glory, although every eye will see Him, it will only be for a few seconds, or so...(the word does not give a exat time), yet it does make it clear that they will be destroyed by the brilliance of His coming!
We read that here:
2 Thess 2:8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall
consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
ps 18:12 At the brightness that was before him his thick clouds passed, hail stones and coals of fire.
..for He is a CONSUMING FIRE.
Dan 9: 3
Understand therefore this day, that the LORD thy God is he which goeth over before thee; as a consuming fire he shall destroy them, and he shall bring them down before thy face: so shalt thou drive them out, and destroy them quickly, as the LORD hath said unto thee.
29 For our God is a consuming fire.
Flesh cannot be in the presence of His HOLINESS and continue to live.
The bible makes it clear.
Some will say, "well, see God kills people".
To that I would say, God did not lift a finger.
It does not matter how you define democracy, when I use the word, I mean it in the way they use it.
I agree with so much of what you are saying.
However, I see this 'democracy' (so called) that is being brought to other nations by force .................. in it's truest philosophical/religious/legalistic sense.......... is talmudism.
(But that is a bit of a long and involved subject that usually causes problems when trying to disscuss it openly.)
Also, I think how a person views the REASONS for these wars can make it difficult to find common ground on this subject. For instance, there are still some people who genuinely believe that America's war effort is noble and just.............then there of those of us who see it quite differently.
Love you Janet,
what happens when enough muslims come to a democracy , then say ok we dont want you worshipping as christians anymore.
then watch how the tune changes, and everyone who supports a democracy will instantly, we cant have that , they cant stop our religion. never even stopping to think that the very system is set up to fail that way, there are more non christians than there will ever be christians, and they chip away slowley and surely, freedom of religion -- wrong , to say it is , is to say god wants someone to worship false gods, gay marraige -- wrong.
on and on.
so some will side with government and some will side with god- always has been, always will be.
LOVE...for God, and love for neighbor, and the bible says that INCLUDES your enemies..you don't here that in the pulpits today.....
What has this to do with the return of Jesus? You do know that while Jesus was God and one with God... Jesus is still not the Father physically. If you believe otherwise then we'll have a problem with this foundation.
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