Is "democracy" the beast government?

[theleast]

Has nothing to do with the fact that all governments aren't established or belong to Satan. If the leaders do evil then there ya go and that will be on them. If the leaders don't do evil... it ain't the government of the devil. God can bless a nation just as well as curse it. And if God's blessing is on that nation then that isn't the devils little nation. That is pretty much simple Bible 101 stuff there.

I agree it is quite simple.

The kings of the earth are fornicating with the whore.

God has turned loose war, famine, and death upon the Earth. Man is waging war over the love of money, and there is no righteous nation on the Earth. The judgement will fall on the day of the Lord and all the kings of the earth will tremble for their fornications with the whore.

Which leaders upon the Earth are not doing evil today?

[ProjectPeter]

Goodness gracious!!! I AM ASKING IF YOU ARE! I have asked you that several times now and tried to get straight answers from you based on something you have said. You have done about everything but answer the question. Do you believe in the doctrine of the Trinity? It is just a yes or no for Pete's sake!

[jewel4Christ]

Do you believe in the doctrine of the trinity? Surely you know what that means right? If so then just say yes. If not then let's not play word games.... goodness. This isn't a trick question.

OK, here we go...

I don't even understand the doctrine of the trinity, so how can I say I agree with it?

I feel the doctrine of the trinity is a doctrine that TRIES to describe God..as He is, but, IN reality, I don't think that anyone can really describe God as HE really is..does that mean I don't agree with the doctrine of the trinity? NO, it means, I don't understand it.

Does that settle things for you, or do I need to get a lawyer?

LOL

Pete, for cryin out loud, this thread is not even about that.

YOU made it into that....so, I am asking, can we get it back on topic, or do I simply need to think that I am being ostercised?

Please let me know..because my patience is wearing thin..and, I would really like to remain on this board.

peaceandlove,

janet

[ProjectPeter]

I agree it is quite simple.

The kings of the earth are fornicating with the whore.

God has turned loose war, famine, and death upon the Earth. Man is waging war over the love of money, and there is no righteous nation on the Earth. The judgement will fall on the day of the Lord and all the kings of the earth will tremble for their fornications with the whore.

Which leaders upon the Earth are not doing evil today?

Doubtful there are many if any. I am not one that personally knows every head of Governments so I can't say. The actions of some make it clear... others who knows. I'd wager... if any it would be few. But nevertheless... that doesn't make democracy, socialism, communism, totalitarianism or whateverism the beast. You can't chuck a system in the lake of fire and that's sure enough where the Beast gets chucked.

[jewel4Christ]

I agree it is quite simple.

The kings of the earth are fornicating with the whore.

God has turned loose war, famine, and death upon the Earth. Man is waging war over the love of money, and there is no righteous nation on the Earth. The judgement will fall on the day of the Lord and all the kings of the earth will tremble for their fornications with the whore.

Which leaders upon the Earth are not doing evil today?

Amen, exactly how I see it, too.....thanks, for this.

(now to those whom disagree, I am not AGAINST YOU...I am only here trying to show a view)

peaceandlove,

janet

[ProjectPeter]

OK, here we go...

I don't even understand the doctrine of the trinity, so how can I say I agree with it?

I feel the doctrine of the trinity is a doctrine that TRIES to describe God..as He is, but, IN reality, I don't think that anyone can really describe God as HE really is..does that mean I don't agree with the doctrine of the trinity? NO, it means, I don't understand it.

Does that settle things for you, or do I need to get a lawyer?

LOL

Pete, for cryin out loud, this thread is not even about that.

YOU made it into that....so, I am asking, can we get it back on topic, or do I simply need to think that I am being ostercised?

Please let me know..because my patience is wearing thin..and, I would really like to remain on this board.

peaceandlove,

janet

Honestly.... I'm not that horribly concerned with your patience long about now. Again... you play word games and yes... it is important because much of your post is cloaked in the oneness doctrine and the more you go on... the more that shows. That doctrine is not going to happen on this board... now... nor next week. We've tried it and as sure as God made little green apples... threads go goofy faster than a Porsche can go from 0-60. This is clearly one of those cases. Let's just close this out and again... get very familiar with the rules of this board. I suspect that would be best for you guys.

[jewel4Christ]

Doubtful there are many if any. I am not one that personally knows every head of Governments so I can't say. The actions of some make it clear... others who knows. I'd wager... if any it would be few. But nevertheless... that doesn't make democracy, socialism, communism, totalitarianism or whateverism the beast. You can't chuck a system in the lake of fire and that's sure enough where the Beast gets chucked

I personally believe that all earthly governments will be chucked in the lake of fire...for they will have an end...and, HIS alone will remain....

peaceandlove,

janet

[theleast]

Doubtful there are many if any. I am not one that personally knows every head of Governments so I can't say. The actions of some make it clear... others who knows. I'd wager... if any it would be few. But nevertheless... that doesn't make democracy, socialism, communism, totalitarianism or whateverism the beast. You can't chuck a system in the lake of fire and that's sure enough where the Beast gets chucked.

I wouldn't be so quick to label democracy as the ONLY government of the beast, but there is only one kingdom that will stand at the end.

That is the Kingdom of God.

[theleast]

Honestly.... I'm not that horribly concerned with your patience long about now. Again... you play word games and yes... it is important because much of your post is cloaked in the oneness doctrine and the more you go on... the more that shows. That doctrine is not going to happen on this board... now... nor next week. We've tried it and as sure as God made little green apples... threads go goofy faster than a Porsche can go from 0-60. This is clearly one of those cases. Let's just close this out and again... get very familiar with the rules of this board. I suspect that would be best for you guys.

Oneness doctrine?

What in the heck is that?

LOL

jewel believes only in the doctrine of the word of God from what I've seen.

[ProjectPeter]

Honestly.... I'm not that horribly concerned with your patience long about now. Again... you play word games and yes... it is important because much of your post is cloaked in the oneness doctrine and the more you go on... the more that shows. That doctrine is not going to happen on this board... now... nor next week. We've tried it and as sure as God made little green apples... threads go goofy faster than a Porsche can go from 0-60. This is clearly one of those cases. Let's just close this out and again... get very familiar with the rules of this board. I suspect that would be best for you guys.

A bird that waddles like a duck and quacks like a duck and looks like a duck along with shedding water like a duck.... gotta figure it's a duck.

This thread is closed.

For those of you in this thread that are here to just go on and on about the war and all of this doctrinal stuff that I've been reading over the last few days... read the rules of this board. When done... if you have any questions then start a thread in chat to mod's. If you start another thread in this vein then I will close it and instruct the mod's of this forum to do the same.

[fewarechosen]

just so you know what nations are fornicating with the whore, and which kings.

3For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.


so there we have it folks

ALL NATIONS