Are there Prohets Today ?

[dan p]

We know that there were prophets in the Bible beginning in Genesis,through Revelation. But this is the age of Grace. In Eph 4:11, it talks about Prophets. So what is their ministry, can we recognze them , do they predict the future ? How does it relate to the Dispensation of the Gace of God ?

[DadBurnett]

We know that there were prophets in the Bible beginning in Genesis,through Revelation. But this is the age of Grace. In Eph 4:11, it talks about Prophets. So what is their ministry, can we recognze them , do they predict the future ? How does it relate to the Dispensation of the Gace of God ?

Remember the words of Jesus saying, “It is not me but the Father that doeth the works”?
Do prophets predict the future? No. A prophet speaks the Word given to them by the Lord, to the extent that they utter prophecy, the do so giving voice to Spirit. They, of themselves, do not predict the future. In that light, it is the Lord that predicts …
Prophets were not always accepted as prophets in their day, in their community. Prophets seems to deal with the stuff of the future and are best revealed by hindsight … Are there prophets today/ It depends on your perception and your beliefs. Several millions of people believe and testify to the head of the Salt Lake LDS church to be both seer and prophet. They claim their prophet speaks with the direct inspiration/revelatrion and the authority of the Lord. Are there other prophets? I don’t know, there are many that claim to make prophetic utterances, but who of them does so with the authority of the Lord? Is true prophecy the stuff of this afternoon or tomorrow? Or, has it been that real prophecy reaches across generations and millennia?
I look forward to what others have to say on the subject and I hope we don’t get side-tracked by my LDS reference.

[HisLeast]

If there are, then their voices are drowned out in the myriad voices of the pretenders.

[joztok]

If there are, then their voices are drowned out in the myriad voices of the pretenders.

Prophecy is alive and well, yet not welcomed in church culture. Prophets these days are not really well treated and don't usually fit the social norm or 'hierarchical' scheme of things. Outside of the Sunday services, they flourish.

Unfortunately, some are a bit loopy. But allot are quite rare. We all have the gift of prophecy. Hang out with some mates and just spend time abiding in God's Holy Spirit and see if He wants to reveal himself through you when ever you think he may be prompting you to speak. Only this free and open environment can we discover the gifts of prophecy and other gifts that he has given his people. It does work. We have this special group on Saturday night where we allow this to happen. Practicing the presence. It's amazing and it doesn't take a genius to figure it out. Let the Holy Spirit run the meeting.

[HisLeast]

Prophecy is alive and well, yet not welcomed in church culture. Prophets these days are not really well treated and don't usually fit the social norm or 'hierarchical' scheme of things. Outside of the Sunday services, they flourish.

Right... "its the church's fault". It couldn't POSSIBLY be that for every 1 genuine prophet, there are hundreds if not thousands who daily assert that they have been given a message from God. You can see it here WEEKLY. If 99% of the time you hear someone claim prophecy turn out to be a charlatan or misguided, then what's going to be your natural reaction when the next person comes around? I'm sick of hearing this "the church isn't welcoming". "The church isn't this. This church isn't that. Its the church's fault. The church isn't good enough." Like the church has nothing better to do but dedicate itself to failure. How about some accountability leveled towards the people who want to play the prophecy game?

Hang out with some mates and just spend time abiding in God's Holy Spirit and see if He wants to reveal himself through you when ever you think he may be prompting you to speak. Only this free and open environment can we discover the gifts of prophecy and other gifts that he has given his people. It does work. We have this special group on Saturday night where we allow this to happen. Practicing the presence. It's amazing and it doesn't take a genius to figure it out. Let the Holy Spirit run the meeting.

"abiding in God's Holy Spirit"
"Practicing the presence"
"Let the Holy Spirit run the meeting"

What does any of that mean?

[Equipped_4_Love]

Several millions of people believe and testify to the head of the Salt Lake LDS church to be both seer and prophet. They claim their prophet speaks with the direct inspiration/revelatrion and the authority of the Lord.

Absolutely....and just because a group of people claim someone to be a prophet does not make that person a prophet.
Again, we should not determine whether or not someone is a prophet by what other people claim...We should make that determination based on the Word of God, and if what they are prophesying corresponds with the Scriptural revelation.
There are definitely people today who have the gift of prophecy, just as there are people who are false prophets, as well.

As far as what prophecy is, Dad Burnett is right on the money....It is not necessarily predicting the future, but procaliming the word of God.

[crossnote]

We know that there were prophets in the Bible beginning in Genesis,through Revelation. But this is the age of Grace. In Eph 4:11, it talks about Prophets. So what is their ministry, can we recognze them , do they predict the future ? How does it relate to the Dispensation of the Grace of God ?

There are those who speak forth God's Word and those who have accurate temporal predictions given through God as did Agabus is Acts 11:28 but there are no more OT type prophets who's speaking is equal to God's Word in Scripture. In other words there is no more Divine Revelation designed for ALL mankind.
God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;
(Heb 1:1-2)

[joztok]

There are those who speak forth God's Word and those who have accurate temporal predictions given through God as did Agabus is Acts 11:28 but there are no more OT type prophets who's speaking is equal to God's Word in Scripture. In other words there is no more Divine Revelation designed for ALL mankind.
God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;
(Heb 1:1-2)

I'm not quite sure about that. Early settlers in countries spoke amazing things over their new homes, only to see profound results with the words they uttered. Australia and New Zealand are founded on prophecies uttered by early settlers. If the LIVING word is in us, His word is still being written. Only fragmented.

[SpokenFor]

I do believe there are some true prophets around (even some on this messageboard) who are trying to warn others of the impending Last Days and calling for repentance.

Unfortunately, there are also lots of people around who call themselves "prophets" who are no more than "Christian" psychics or fakes.

[HisLeast]

I do believe there are some true prophets around (even some on this messageboard) who are trying to warn others of the impending Last Days and calling for repentance.

Here's the thing though. Shouldn't the message for repentance be delivered to the unrepentant?

[KingFisher]

We definitely still have prophet's and apostles for the church today.

Their prophecy and direction for the church is 100% correct and completely
in line with God's will. If you want to search these prophets and apostles out
you will find them...






...In the scriptures

At least that's how I feel,
KingFisher

[Sold Out]

We know that there were prophets in the Bible beginning in Genesis,through Revelation. But this is the age of Grace. In Eph 4:11, it talks about Prophets. So what is their ministry, can we recognze them , do they predict the future ? How does it relate to the Dispensation of the Gace of God ?

This gift is one of the four spiritual gifts given TO the New Testament church (not for the church, as in the other gifts in I Cor 12).

"And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; " Eph 4:11

Romans 12:6 give us a prerequisite to using the gift of prophecy:

"Having then gifts differing according to the grace that is given to us, whether prophecy, let us prophesy according to the proportion of faith"

If a person claims to speak for the Lord, he must do so within the bounds of scripture.

[Slug1]

Yep, as SoldOut just pointed out. Not only are there "true" prophets today but this fact is backed by scripture such as what was posted. It does seem though that "anointed" prophets who are picked by God are drowned out by the many self-appointed and self-taught so called prophets.

Anointed and self-appointed are way two separate types of prophet... one is picked by God to speak and the other... well, let's just say don't listen to them.

[HisLeast]

Anointed and self-appointed are way two separate types of prophet... one is picked by God to speak and the other... well, let's just say don't listen to them.

Damned if one does. Damned if one doesn't. They sound exactly the same.

[Slug1]

Damned if one does. Damned if one doesn't. They sound exactly the same.

Not if you discern through the spirit