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    Are there Prohets Today ?

    We know that there were prophets in the Bible beginning in Genesis,through Revelation. But this is the age of Grace. In Eph 4:11, it talks about Prophets. So what is their ministry, can we recognze them , do they predict the future ? How does it relate to the Dispensation of the Gace of God ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dan p View Post
    We know that there were prophets in the Bible beginning in Genesis,through Revelation. But this is the age of Grace. In Eph 4:11, it talks about Prophets. So what is their ministry, can we recognze them , do they predict the future ? How does it relate to the Dispensation of the Gace of God ?
    Remember the words of Jesus saying, “It is not me but the Father that doeth the works”?
    Do prophets predict the future? No. A prophet speaks the Word given to them by the Lord, to the extent that they utter prophecy, the do so giving voice to Spirit. They, of themselves, do not predict the future. In that light, it is the Lord that predicts …
    Prophets were not always accepted as prophets in their day, in their community. Prophets seems to deal with the stuff of the future and are best revealed by hindsight … Are there prophets today/ It depends on your perception and your beliefs. Several millions of people believe and testify to the head of the Salt Lake LDS church to be both seer and prophet. They claim their prophet speaks with the direct inspiration/revelatrion and the authority of the Lord. Are there other prophets? I don’t know, there are many that claim to make prophetic utterances, but who of them does so with the authority of the Lord? Is true prophecy the stuff of this afternoon or tomorrow? Or, has it been that real prophecy reaches across generations and millennia?
    I look forward to what others have to say on the subject and I hope we don’t get side-tracked by my LDS reference.

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    If there are, then their voices are drowned out in the myriad voices of the pretenders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DadBurnett View Post
    Several millions of people believe and testify to the head of the Salt Lake LDS church to be both seer and prophet. They claim their prophet speaks with the direct inspiration/revelatrion and the authority of the Lord.
    Absolutely....and just because a group of people claim someone to be a prophet does not make that person a prophet.
    Again, we should not determine whether or not someone is a prophet by what other people claim...We should make that determination based on the Word of God, and if what they are prophesying corresponds with the Scriptural revelation.
    There are definitely people today who have the gift of prophecy, just as there are people who are false prophets, as well.

    As far as what prophecy is, Dad Burnett is right on the money....It is not necessarily predicting the future, but procaliming the word of God.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dan p View Post
    We know that there were prophets in the Bible beginning in Genesis,through Revelation. But this is the age of Grace. In Eph 4:11, it talks about Prophets. So what is their ministry, can we recognze them , do they predict the future ? How does it relate to the Dispensation of the Grace of God ?
    There are those who speak forth God's Word and those who have accurate temporal predictions given through God as did Agabus is Acts 11:28 but there are no more OT type prophets who's speaking is equal to God's Word in Scripture. In other words there is no more Divine Revelation designed for ALL mankind.
    God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;
    (Heb 1:1-2)

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    I do believe there are some true prophets around (even some on this messageboard) who are trying to warn others of the impending Last Days and calling for repentance.

    Unfortunately, there are also lots of people around who call themselves "prophets" who are no more than "Christian" psychics or fakes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpokenFor View Post
    I do believe there are some true prophets around (even some on this messageboard) who are trying to warn others of the impending Last Days and calling for repentance.
    Here's the thing though. Shouldn't the message for repentance be delivered to the unrepentant?

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    We definitely still have prophet's and apostles for the church today.

    Their prophecy and direction for the church is 100% correct and completely
    in line with God's will. If you want to search these prophets and apostles out
    you will find them...






    ...In the scriptures

    At least that's how I feel,
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    I'm whispering "I was lost, Now I'm found and forgiven".

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    Quote Originally Posted by dan p View Post
    We know that there were prophets in the Bible beginning in Genesis,through Revelation. But this is the age of Grace. In Eph 4:11, it talks about Prophets. So what is their ministry, can we recognze them , do they predict the future ? How does it relate to the Dispensation of the Gace of God ?
    This gift is one of the four spiritual gifts given TO the New Testament church (not for the church, as in the other gifts in I Cor 12).

    "And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; " Eph 4:11

    Romans 12:6 give us a prerequisite to using the gift of prophecy:

    "Having then gifts differing according to the grace that is given to us, whether prophecy, let us prophesy according to the proportion of faith"

    If a person claims to speak for the Lord, he must do so within the bounds of scripture.

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    Yep, as SoldOut just pointed out. Not only are there "true" prophets today but this fact is backed by scripture such as what was posted. It does seem though that "anointed" prophets who are picked by God are drowned out by the many self-appointed and self-taught so called prophets.

    Anointed and self-appointed are way two separate types of prophet... one is picked by God to speak and the other... well, let's just say don't listen to them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slug1 View Post
    Anointed and self-appointed are way two separate types of prophet... one is picked by God to speak and the other... well, let's just say don't listen to them.
    Damned if one does. Damned if one doesn't. They sound exactly the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HisLeast View Post
    Damned if one does. Damned if one doesn't. They sound exactly the same.
    Not if you discern through the spirit
    Slug1--out

    ~Do not quench the Spirit ~ 1 Thessalonians 5:19~

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    "So what hardship are you willing to endure, to see My will accomplished through you?"~

    ~Your relationship isn't knowing "ABOUT" GOD! Relationship is to "KNOW" GOD,
    so that in the end and you stand before Him for the first time in heaven… HE KNOWS YOU~


    ~Do we, as Christians witness Jesus to the lost because we love Jesus? Or do we witness Jesus to the lost because we love them as Jesus loves them?~

    ~A prompting from God means that you are to DO. Thinking, causes you to... NOT DO!~

    ~Being on the tall mountain is where "you" go, to meet with God. Being in the deep valley is where "God" goes, to meet with you!~


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    Quote Originally Posted by Slug1 View Post
    Not if you discern through the spirit
    That's my question of the month: how does one do that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HisLeast View Post
    That's my question of the month: how does one do that?
    The Holy Spirit is a person... it's not just a filter... If you believe that you are in a personal relationship with God and his spirit lives inside of you, then you discern the activity by the fellowship with the Spirit... meaning if you talk to it, it will talk to you... there is no other way to discern by the spirit if you first don't believe that the Spirit is God inside of you and it speaks to you... but that means you have to commune with the Spirit for it to properly commune with you
    The LORD bless you and keep you; The LORD make His face shine upon you,And be gracious to you; The LORD lift up His countenance upon you,And give you peace.” Numbers 6:24-26

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    Quote Originally Posted by timmyb View Post
    The Holy Spirit is a person... it's not just a filter... If you believe that you are in a personal relationship with God and his spirit lives inside of you, then you discern the activity by the fellowship with the Spirit... meaning if you talk to it, it will talk to you... there is no other way to discern by the spirit if you first don't believe that the Spirit is God inside of you and it speaks to you... but that means you have to commune with the Spirit for it to properly commune with you
    Well said. The Holy Spirit is not just a "power source" that we "plug in to" (ugh..heard that phrase in church too many times). But, exactly as you said...a person with whom we need to have a relationship.

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