Truth is so obscure in these times and falsehood so established that, unless one loves the truth, he cannot know it. - Blaise Pascal
And Jesus saith unto him [Thomas], I am the way the truth and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. - John 14:6
Discernment is not needed in things that differ, but in things that appear to be the same. - Miles Sanford
Those who compromise with Christís enemies may be reckoned with them. - C.H. Spurgeon
I'll take what you said into consideration.
I do, however, believe that the concept that Christ has been given a specific group of people (other than the apostles) is found in places other than John 17. And that the idea that Christ will lose none OF THESE is also found elsewhere.
And that was my ultimate point.
If we doubt or do not believe that God is gracious to us and is pleased with us, or if we presumptuously expect to please Him only through and after our works, then it is all pure deception, outwardly honoring God, but inwardly setting up self as a false [savior].... (Part X. XI) Excerpts from Martin Luther, Treatise Concerning Good Works (1520).
And "overcometh" in the Greek is "nikao" which means-to conquer or be victorious. There is no such a thing as an un-victorious born from above Saint. We are all victorious through Christ alone, not our own works.
There are 3 types of saved
1, We needed to get saved
2, We got saved
3, We are yet to be saved because the possibility exist that we could still backslide.
Is it possible a Christain could go to hell if he makes a mistake secs b4 he dies.
If we are following Christ and make a mistake before we died, Gods grace is sufficient to forgive us, it is not Gods intention to deliberately wait for us to make mistakes so hes justifed in punishing us.
He wants us to live with him for eternity, if we are to willfully sin and not repent when prompted to by the Holy Spirit and were to die in our sins, then it will be up to the father to determine our fate.
We are asked to follow Jesus so we can develop in our personal relationships, be transformed and bear fruit, it is a challange as Christians we all face.
Sometimes we flow and sometimes we struggle it is a process we all go through to help us over come our weaknesses as we become new creatures in Christ Jesus.
Losing salvation is a process that is not done with one act. Unless the sin is the unforgivable sin. But even here the person not only has to commit it. But truly mean it and have the knowledge of what it means to actually commit the sin.
Christ died once for all sin, He is not a daily offering (as OT) for that would bring Him to shame.
Do you believe that Christ died for ALL your sins, past, present and future?
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