Can a Christian go to hell?

**Marc2x** · Aug 15th 2008, 04:35 AM

Kinda stupid question but is it possible for a christian to go to hell?What if a christian accidently sins then died seconds later will he/she go to Hell?

***crossnote*** · Aug 15th 2008, 05:18 AM

IMHO. If it is possible for a Christian to go to hell it would be because they continully hardened their heart to the point where they rejected Christ and ultimately died in that rejection.
Your question "What if a christian accidently sins then died seconds later will he/she go to Hell?" Our sins as christians do not send us to hell otherwise no christian would be saved. After all what Christian perfectly loves God with all their heart mind, soul and strength...and their neighbor as theirselves...all the time? Our hearts may become hardened through the deceitfulness of sin over time to the point where we end up denying Christ. This is why it is important to not justify our sins before God but rather confess them and receive His Blood washed forgiveness.

***dworthington*** · Aug 15th 2008, 10:38 AM

Romans 8:28, in fact read all of chapter 8

***godsgirl*** · Aug 15th 2008, 10:46 AM

If they cease to be a Christian they can.

***9Marksfan*** · Aug 15th 2008, 01:07 PM

Originally Posted by godsgirl

If they cease to be a Christian they can.

But will God ever permit one of His true shep to perish?

**graceforme** · Aug 15th 2008, 10:51 AM

Originally Posted by crossnote

IMHO. If it is possible for a Christian to go to hell it would be because they continully hardened their heart to the point where they rejected Christ and ultimately died in that rejection.
Your question "What if a christian accidently sins then died seconds later will he/she go to Hell?" Our sins as christians do not send us to hell otherwise no christian would be saved. After all what Christian perfectly loves God with all their heart mind, soul and strength...and their neighbor as theirselves...all the time? Our hearts may become hardened through the deceitfulness of sin over time to the point where we end up denying Christ. This is why it is important to not justify our sins before God but rather confess them and receive His Blood washed forgiveness.

Good words, crossnote. And I agree with dworthington, too. In fact, my pastor has told us to read Romans 8 and Ephesians 2 every day. It sure gives me encouragement.

God Bless.

**Instrument** · Aug 15th 2008, 01:53 PM

Originally Posted by Marc2x

Kinda stupid question but is it possible for a christian to go to hell?What if a christian accidently sins then died seconds later will he/she go to Hell?

Jhon 10:
27My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: 28And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. 29My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father’s hand. 30I and my Father are one.

***Nobunaga*** · Aug 15th 2008, 01:55 PM

Why should a sinner repent?

BECAUSE GOD DESERVES THE OBEDIENCE AND LOVE THAT HE'S REFUSED TO GIVE HIM! Not so that he'll go to heaven.

If the only reason he repents is so that he'll go to heaven, it's nothing but trying to make a deal or a bargain with God.

WHY SHOULD A SINNER GIVE UP ALL HIS SINS? WHY SHOULD HE BE CHALLENGED TO DO IT? WHY SHOULD HE MAKE RESTITUTION WHEN HE'S COMING TO CHRIST? BECAUSE GOD DESERVES THE OBEDIENCE THAT HE DEMANDS !!!

I have talked with people that have no assurance that sins are forgiven. They want to feel safe, before they're willing to commit themselves to Christ. But I believe that the only ones whom God actually witnesses by His Spirit and are born of Him, are the people, whether they say it or not, that come to Jesus Christ and say something like this, "Lord Jesus, I'm going to obey you, and love you, and serve you, and do what you want me to do, as long as I live even if I go to Hell at the end of the road, simply because YOU ARE WORTHY TO BE LOVED, AND OBEYED, AND SERVED, and I'm not trying to make a deal with you!" Do you see the difference? Do you see the difference? Between a Levite serving for ten shekels and a shirt or a Micah
building a chapel because God will do you good AND someone that repents for the glory of God.

Paris Reidhead.

***crossnote*** · Aug 16th 2008, 05:32 AM

Originally Posted by Nobunaga

Why should a sinner repent?

WHY SHOULD A SINNER GIVE UP ALL HIS SINS?
BECAUSE GOD DESERVES THE OBEDIENCE THAT HE DEMANDS !!!

Yes God deserves the obedience He demands...and praise God He provided His Son who yielded Himself in perfect obebedience to those demands!!

For as by one man's disobedience (Adam) many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one (Christ) shall many be made righteous.
(Rom 5:19)

**Ron Brown** · Aug 16th 2008, 07:00 AM

Can a Christian go to Hell, yes.

Most who claim to be Christians are not saved, they just claim to be a Christian. Most who claim to be a Christian have never been saved, they are Christians in name alone, and on their way to Hell.

Claiming to be a Christian does not save any person, being one of God's elect by the drawing and then indwelling of the Holy Spirit is what saves a person. You can't come to Christ by saying a prayer, or being born into a Christian family, or by going to Church, for some examples. The only way to the Father is through the Son, and the only way to the Son is through the Holy Spirit. If your name is written in the Book of Life, it will never be erased.

***9Marksfan*** · Aug 16th 2008, 06:14 PM

Originally Posted by Ron Brown

Can a Christian go to Hell, yes.

Most who claim to be Christians are not saved, they just claim to be a Christian. Most who claim to be a Christian have never been saved, they are Christians in name alone, and on their way to Hell.

Claiming to be a Christian does not save any person, being one of God's elect by the drawing and then indwelling of the Holy Spirit is what saves a person. You can't come to Christ by saying a prayer, or being born into a Christian family, or by going to Church, for some examples. The only way to the Father is through the Son, and the only way to the Son is through the Holy Spirit. If your name is written in the Book of Life, it will never be erased.

As with Bryan43, I agree - but what would you call those whose names are written in the Book of Life, if not "Christians"?!?

**Ron Brown** · Aug 16th 2008, 06:26 PM

Originally Posted by 9Marksfan

As with Bryan43, I agree - but what would you call those whose names are written in the Book of Life, if not "Christians"?!?

Most religious people in the USA call themselves Christians, but the word Christian in the 21st century does not describe a true Christian, because the word Christian is thrown around very lightly today. Everybody in their gord claims to be Christian these days, because they go to church, or were born to Catholic parents, or were made to go to church as a child, etc.......................................but their names are not written in the Book of Life, because they were never born from above through Christ.

We need a new word to describe "TRUE" Christians? But what? I like Born from above Christian myself.

***Mograce2U*** · Aug 16th 2008, 06:33 PM

Originally Posted by Ron Brown

Most religious people in the USA call themselves Christians, but the word Christian in the 21st century does not describe a true Christian, because the word Christian is thrown around very lightly today. Everybody in their gord claims to be Christian these days, because they go to church, or were born to Catholic parents, or were made to go to church as a child, etc.......................................but their names are not written in the Book of Life, because they were never born from above through Christ.

We need a new word to describe "TRUE" Christians? But what? I like Born from above Christian myself.

(Rom 9:16 KJV) So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that showeth mercy.

Everybody seems to forget this part - the evidence of the Holy Spirit is that one has in fact received the mercy of God. And so often the "sinners prayer" you hear does not even make this request! It is always about us inviting Jesus, when it ought to be about asking Him to accept us.

***9Marksfan*** · Aug 16th 2008, 06:44 PM

Originally Posted by Mograce2U

(Rom 9:16 KJV) So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that showeth mercy.

Everybody seems to forget this part - the evidence of the Holy Spirit is that one has in fact received the mercy of God. And so often the "sinners prayer" you hear does not even make this request! It is always about us inviting Jesus, when it ought to be about asking Him to accept us.

Excellent point, Mo!

***9Marksfan*** · Aug 16th 2008, 06:44 PM

Originally Posted by Ron Brown

Most religious people in the USA call themselves Christians, but the word Christian in the 21st century does not describe a true Christian, because the word Christian is thrown around very lightly today. Everybody in their gord claims to be Christian these days, because they go to church, or were born to Catholic parents, or were made to go to church as a child, etc.......................................but their names are not written in the Book of Life, because they were never born from above through Christ.

We need a new word to describe "TRUE" Christians? But what? I like Born from above Christian myself.

Yep - pretty accurate - interestingly, in Middle Eastern countries (that have an even worse time with the name "Christian" than we do), they call believers just that - "believers" - I think that's pretty good!

The problem with saying a Christian can go to Hell is that it actually teaches the OPOSITE of what you and I believe about the perseverance of the saints! Hey - maybe that's what we should call oursleves - saints!