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    Russia-Georgia Dispute

    I've been watching the drama between Russia and Georgia lately and have been observing it very closely, any one else here agree with me that this event could be a sign of the old Soviet Empire rising again before our eyes?
    USSA-The United Socialist States of America

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    Quote Originally Posted by MidnightsPaleGlow View Post
    I've been watching the drama between Russia and Georgia lately and have been observing it very closely, any one else here agree with me that this event could be a sign of the old Soviet Empire rising again before our eyes?
    True, that could be the case. It could also be a sign of more U.S. imperialistic expansion...I guess it always depends on what color the glasses are one is looking through.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rufus_1611 View Post
    True, that could be the case. It could also be a sign of more U.S. imperialistic expansion...I guess it always depends on what color the glasses are one is looking through.
    True, it could have two meanings, I didn't even think about. I don't really agree with the U.S. imperialism thing since the way I see it, based on how poorly this country is being run and how things seem very bleak in America right now (bunch of idiots running/ruining this country, I have ZERO faith in Washington right now, persistently bad economy, wide open borders/home insecurity, and a whole laundry list more but I'm not going there), but you do make a good point. I personally believe that within the next 50 years America is going to fall apart completely and view this Georgia crisis as evidence of Russia preparing to fill the void that we'll be leaving, much like we did in 91 after the Soviet Union collapsed. I have a very pessimistic outlook when it comes to the future of America unfortunately.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MidnightsPaleGlow View Post
    True, it could have two meanings, I didn't even think about. I don't really agree with the U.S. imperialism thing since the way I see it, based on how poorly this country is being run and how things seem very bleak in America right now (bunch of idiots running/ruining this country, I have ZERO faith in Washington right now, persistently bad economy, wide open borders/home insecurity, and a whole laundry list more but I'm not going there), but you do make a good point. I personally believe that within the next 50 years America is going to fall apart completely and view this Georgia crisis as evidence of Russia preparing to fill the void that we'll be leaving, much like we did in 91 after the Soviet Union collapsed. I have a very pessimistic outlook when it comes to the future of America unfortunately.
    Good points all. I share the same pessimistic perspective. We're badly in need of revival and if revival doesn't come, I fear judgment will.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redeemedbyhim View Post
    U.S. imperialistic expansion
    Troops in 144 out of 192 countries. Over 1,000 "military advisers" in Georgia, many of whom are Blackwater mercenaries

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rufus_1611 View Post
    Troops in 144 out of 192 countries.
    An embassy with three marines guarding it hardly counts, and that's the only way we have troops in 144 countries.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenris View Post
    An embassy with three marines guarding it hardly counts, and that's the only way we have troops in 144 countries.
    Please see the following rebuttal to your argument:

    Guarding the Empire by Laurence Vance

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rufus_1611 View Post
    Please see the following rebuttal to your argument:

    Guarding the Empire by Laurence Vance
    Your article really doesn't rebut my point.
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    im·pe·ri·al·ism /ɪmˈpɪəriəˌlɪzəm/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[im-peer-ee-uh-liz-uhm] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
    –noun 1.the policy of extending the rule or authority of an empire or nation over foreign countries, or of acquiring and holding colonies and dependencies.



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    Quote Originally Posted by redeemedbyhim View Post
    U.S. imperialistic expansion
    We're imperialist because we export our culture. You know, big macs and Hollywood.

    If you want an example of real imperialism, look at Germany in the 30s and 40s or the Soviet Union from the 20s until 1991.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenris View Post
    We're imperialist because we export our culture. You know, big macs and Hollywood.

    If you want an example of real imperialism, look at Germany in the 30s and 40s or the Soviet Union from the 20s until 1991.
    Germany, the country the United States has 70,000+ troops stationed in?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rufus_1611 View Post
    Germany, the country the United States has 70,000+ troops stationed in?
    Are you being deliberately obtuse?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenris View Post
    Are you being deliberately obtuse?
    No. Just pointing out that this would be another country that the U.S. Military has a significant presence in. Considering WWII ended 60 some years ago...seems like we could bring them home now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rufus_1611 View Post
    No. Just pointing out that this would be another country that the U.S. Military has a significant presence in. Considering WWII ended 60 some years ago...seems like we could bring them home now.
    So now we are 'occupying Germany'?
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