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    Quote Originally Posted by redeemedbyhim View Post
    im·pe·ri·al·ism /ɪmˈpɪəriəˌlɪzəm/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[im-peer-ee-uh-liz-uhm] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
    –noun 1.the policy of extending the rule or authority of an empire or nation over foreign countries, or of acquiring and holding colonies and dependencies.

    U.S. imperialistic expansion
    That definition sounds about right. Did the U.S. not extend their de facto authority over Iraq? Afghanistan? Panama? Are they not extending their authority now over Iran? What is the U.S. military doing in these regions and what does being in all of these places have to do with a Constitutional Republic?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clavicula_Nox View Post
    Please.

    Blackwater is not the only security firm in the country or the world.
    Please quote the post where someone said that Blackwater is the only security firm in the country or the world.

    *edit*

    I'm not going to waste my time or energy breaking down our force composition in Georgia.
    Of course. No doubt your time is too valuable to break that down. You probably have more pressing matters, like posting on a message board somewhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenris View Post
    We're imperialist because we export our culture. You know, big macs and Hollywood.

    If you want an example of real imperialism, look at Germany in the 30s and 40s or the Soviet Union from the 20s until 1991.
    Germany, the country the United States has 70,000+ troops stationed in?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rufus_1611 View Post
    Germany, the country the United States has 70,000+ troops stationed in?
    Are you being deliberately obtuse?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rufus_1611 View Post
    That definition sounds about right. Did the U.S. not extend their de facto authority over Iraq? Afghanistan? Panama?
    And here I thought they held elections. Silly me.
    Hear the word of the Lord, O nations, and declare it on the islands from afar, and say, "He Who scattered Israel will gather them together and watch them as a shepherd his flock."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenris View Post
    Are you being deliberately obtuse?
    No. Just pointing out that this would be another country that the U.S. Military has a significant presence in. Considering WWII ended 60 some years ago...seems like we could bring them home now.

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    Pro western leaders in the east will always make waves when they rise.

    President Mikheil Sakashvili of Georgia likes US and Israeli support.
    Then there is also the underlying matter which makes any of this world news worthy, which is the Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan pipeline which carries oil from the Caspian to Europe. And the US is pretty dependent on this oil.

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    And here I thought they held elections. Silly me.
    Russia has elections, too. And the term "Russian election" is a pretty famous one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rufus_1611 View Post
    No. Just pointing out that this would be another country that the U.S. Military has a significant presence in. Considering WWII ended 60 some years ago...seems like we could bring them home now.
    So now we are 'occupying Germany'?
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    Quote Originally Posted by IPet2_9 View Post
    Russia has elections, too. And the term "Russian election" is a pretty famous one.
    So the elections in Iraq were fixed by us? Gee, you'd think we could have installed some leaders who like us more...
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    So the elections in Iraq were fixed by us? Gee, you'd think we could have installed some leaders who like us more...
    Iraq is ruled by the U.S.. Who are we kidding?

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    Quote Originally Posted by IPet2_9 View Post
    Iraq is ruled by the U.S.. Who are we kidding?
    Iraq is ruled by Shi'a politicans, many of whom answer to Tehran.

    Of course. No doubt your time is too valuable to break that down. You probably have more pressing matters, like posting on a message board somewhere.
    No, my time is too valuable to try to explain military matters to a civilian who thinks they know more because they can read internet blogs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenris View Post
    So now we are 'occupying Germany'?
    70,000+ U.S. Troops are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clavicula_Nox View Post
    Iraq is ruled by Shi'a politicans, many of whom answer to Tehran.
    So...we shed blood and money to overthrow an enemy, so the new country could ally with an enemy? Do you consider this to have been a wise play?

    No, my time is too valuable to try to explain military matters to a civilian who thinks they know more because they can read internet blogs.
    Wow, you know a lot about me. Which internet blogs do I read?

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    So...we shed blood and money to overthrow an enemy, so the new country could ally with an enemy? Do you consider this to have been a wise play?
    No I don't. You can search for posts I've made on this board relative to the subject.

    Wow, you know a lot about me. Which internet blogs do I read?
    I dunno, you tell me. It's obviously an over-generalization, you seem a little high-strung.
    The minstrel boy to the war is gone,
    In the ranks of death ye will find him;
    His father's sword he hath girded on,
    And his wild harp slung behind him;
    "Land of Song!" said the warrior bard,
    "Tho' all the world betray thee,
    One sword, at least, thy rights shall guard,
    One faithful harp shall praise thee!

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