Bible Quotes about Children?

[AHappyAtheist]

What the Bible says about Children:

Children who refuse to obey their parents must be executed.

If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them: Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place; And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard. And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear. -- Deuteronomy 21:18-21

He that smiteth his father, or his mother, shall be surely put to death. -- Exodus 21:15

He that curseth his father, or his mother, shall surely be put to death. -- Exodus 21:17

Children who mock their parents will have their eyes plucked out by ravens and eaten by eagles.

The eye that mocketh at his father, and despiseth to obey his mother, the ravens of the valley shall pick it out, and the young eagles shall eat it. -- Proverbs 30:17

Like Abraham, parents should be willing to kill their children for God.

And he said, Take now thy son, thine only son Isaac, whom thou lovest, and ... offer him there for a burnt offering.... And Abraham stretched forth his hand, and took the knife to slay his son. -- Genesis 22:2,10

God killed all the firstborn children in an entire country.

The LORD smote all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, from the firstborn of Pharaoh that sat on his throne unto the firstborn of the captive that was in the dungeon.... And there was a great cry in Egypt; for there was not a house where there was not one dead. -- Exodus 12:29-30

Sometimes God kills children for misbehaving.

And he went up from thence unto Bethel: and as he was going up by the way, there came forth little children out of the city, and mocked him, and said unto him, Go up, thou bald head; go up, thou bald head. And he turned back, and looked on them, and cursed them in the name of the LORD. And there came forth two she bears out of the wood, and tare forty and two children of them. -- 2 Kings 2:23-24

Someday God will force parents eat their own children.

And ye shall eat the flesh of your sons, and the flesh of your daughters shall ye eat. -- Leviticus 26:16

And ye shall eat the flesh of your sons, and the flesh of your daughters shall ye eat. -- Leviticus 26:29

And thou shalt eat the fruit of thine own body, the flesh of thy sons and of thy daughters. -- Deuteronomy 28:53

And I will cause them to eat the flesh of their sons and the flesh of their daughters, and they shall eat every one the flesh of his friend. -- Jeremiah 19:9

And then there's this statement, which could only be found in the Bible:

Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones. -- Psalm 137:9

Child Abuse much? I mean, im for eating babbys, but not children over 6 months.. They start getting bitter after that.

[SirTanTee]

Your quotes are all from the Old Testament. Why don't you look to the more recent teachings of Jesus in the New Testament, to see what they say?

Matthew 19:13 begins:

Then little children were brought to Jesus for him to place his hands on them and pray for them. But the disciples rebuked those who brought them.
Jesus said, "Let the little children come to me, and do not hinder them, for the kingdom of heaven belongs to such as these."

[AHappyAtheist]

The bible is the bible. Last time i checked, the old testament was still taught in sunday school..

Of course its bee quite a few years since then.


But what your saying, is that the Old Testament doesn't count, just because theres a new testament?

Thats not very logical. Thats like saying the First Amendment of the Constitution of the United States of America "doesn't count" Because there is a second amendment.

Besides. Matthew 15:4-7

15:4 For God commanded, saying, Honour thy father and mother: and, He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death.
15:5 But ye say, Whosoever shall say to his father or his mother, It is a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me;
15:6 And honour not his father or his mother, he shall be free. Thus have ye made the commandment of God of none effect by your tradition.
15:7 Ye hypocrites, well did Esaias prophesy of you, saying,

Edit:: Incase you dont know the context, thats Jesus talking to the Pharisees.


Or Mark 7:9-10

7:9 And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.
7:10 For Moses said, Honour thy father and thy mother; and, Whoso curseth father or mother, let him die the death:

[SirTanTee]

The bible is the bible. Last time i checked, the old testament was still taught in sunday school..

Of course its bee quite a few years since then.

But what your saying, is that the Old Testament doesn't count, just because theres a new testament?

Thats not very logical. Thats like saying the First Amendment of the Constitution of the United States of America "doesn't count" Because there is a second amendment.

Yes, basically. If it did apply, we would not be able to do the following things:

- Wear clothing made of two different types of cloth.
- Allow women to wear pants
- Eat pork
- Cook a young goat in it's mother's milk.

What you have to understand is that while indeed Christians believe the Bible is divinely inspired, it was also influenced by the legal, cultural and economic systems of Israel during the time it was written. They were appropriate at that time, but the legalistic ones can no longer be applied. For example, the New Testament states:

A man is not justified by observing the law, but by faith in Jesus Christ. - Galations 2:15-16

You also died to the law through the body of Christ. - Romans 7:4

Now that faith has come, we are no longer under the supervision of the law. - Galatians 3:25

God had an old covenant with the Israelites; Jesus came to usher in a new covenant.

[AHappyAtheist]

Yes, basically. If it did apply, we would not be able to do the following things:

- Wear clothing made of two different types of cloth.
- Allow women to wear pants
- Eat pork
- Cook a young goat in it's mother's milk.

What you have to understand is that while indeed Christians believe the Bible is divinely inspired, it was also influenced by the legal, cultural and economic systems of Israel during the time it was written. They were appropriate at that time, but the legalistic ones can no longer be applied. For example, the New Testament states:

A man is not justified by observing the law, but by faith in Jesus Christ. - Galations 2:15-16

You also died to the law through the body of Christ. - Romans 7:4

Now that faith has come, we are no longer under the supervision of the law. - Galatians 3:25

God had an old covenant with the Israelites; Jesus came to usher in a new covenant.

Still.

Matthew 15:4-7

15:4 For God commanded, saying, Honour thy father and mother: and, He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death.
15:5 But ye say, Whosoever shall say to his father or his mother, It is a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me;
15:6 And honour not his father or his mother, he shall be free. Thus have ye made the commandment of God of none effect by your tradition.
15:7 Ye hypocrites, well did Esaias prophesy of you, saying,

In case you dont know the context, thats Jesus talking to the Pharisees.


Or Mark 7:9-10

7:9 And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.
7:10 For Moses said, Honour thy father and thy mother; and, Whoso curseth father or mother, let him die the death:

[SirTanTee]

Still.

Matthew 15:4-7

15:4 For God commanded, saying, Honour thy father and mother: and, He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death.
15:5 But ye say, Whosoever shall say to his father or his mother, It is a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me;
15:6 And honour not his father or his mother, he shall be free. Thus have ye made the commandment of God of none effect by your tradition.
15:7 Ye hypocrites, well did Esaias prophesy of you, saying,

In case you dont know the context, thats Jesus talking to the Pharisees.

Or Mark 7:9-10

7:9 And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.
7:10 For Moses said, Honour thy father and thy mother; and, Whoso curseth father or mother, let him die the death:

Both of these still refer, in context, to the old covenant. Problem solved.

Also, realize that when it states "curseth father or mother," it implies a severely serious thing. It does not mean a child having a tantrum or a pre-teen muttering a few cuss words out of anger. It refers to a fully grown, adult son or daughter having a heart full of hate and literally asking God to curse his/her parents with death. That is an extremely serious transgression, no matter what way you look at it.

[AHappyAtheist]

Both of these still refer, in context, to the old covenant. Problem solved.

Also, realize that when it states "curseth father or mother," it implies a severely serious thing. It does not mean a child having a tantrum or a pre-teen muttering a few cuss words out of anger. It refers to a fully grown, adult son or daughter having a heart full of hate and literally asking God to curse his/her parents with death. That is an extremely serious transgression, no matter what way you look at it.

Yes they both refer to the Old Testament, but its Jesus criticizing the Pharasees for not practicing.

[SirTanTee]

Yes they both refer to the Old Testament, but its Jesus criticizing the Pharasees for not practicing.

Yes. Because up until Jesus's arrival, the Old Covenant was still in effect.

[AHappyAtheist]

Yes. Because up until Jesus's arrival, the Old Covenant was still in effect.

Jesus had already arrived... Thats why he was able to talk about them.

[SirTanTee]

Jesus had already arrived... Thats why he was able to talk about them.

I know, he's the one speaking in the passage. But he's referring to the past. He's asking why hadn't they been keeping the covenant between its beginning and his current arrival.

Also, since you started the other thread about women, in this passage a woman is the only one who has faith in what Jesus says, and she is therefore blessed:

22And, behold, a woman of Canaan came out of the same coasts, and cried unto him, saying, Have mercy on me, O Lord, thou son of David; my daughter is grievously vexed with a devil.
23But he answered her not a word. And his disciples came and besought him, saying, Send her away; for she crieth after us.
24But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
25Then came she and worshipped him, saying, Lord, help me.
26But he answered and said, It is not meet to take the children's bread, and to cast it to dogs.
27And she said, Truth, Lord: yet the dogs eat of the crumbs which fall from their masters' table.
28Then Jesus answered and said unto her, O woman, great is thy faith: be it unto thee even as thou wilt. And her daughter was made whole from that very hour.

[daughter]

I'm interested in why you think these quotes apply to children. I had understood them to refer to a son who is old enough to know what he is doing when he beats his parents, mocks them, curses them etc.

Society actually does fall apart when the younger generation starts to disregard their forbears. And although the OT laws regarding the punishment of such negligent offspring no longer apply, I'm sure you'll agree that grown men abusing their parents, emotionally or physically, deserve some kind of punishment. We're not talking about child abuse here, we're talking about punishment for those who abuse the old.

Also, the Levitical quotes were prophecies about the curse that would fall on people who reject God. God warns people about what will befall them, what they will become, if they reject Him. He doesn't force anyone to eat their children. But fact is, we do abuse our children. We are that generation that sold our sons and daughters for a bowl of wine. Don't believe me? How many people live their lives for their work, for their things, and hardly even speak to their children? Then they grow up to despise their parents. Our society has rejected God, and we're consumed by our passions.

[ServantofTruth]

In a new church i was trying this morning, our talk was based around Luke chapter 20: verses 1-8. Here we see a trap set by the chief priests, teachers and nations leaders. Jesus' response was to ask them a question.

In the same chapter 20 of Luke's gospel starting at verse 20 to verse 26, we see 'spies' sent by Jesus' enemies to catch Jesus saying something wrong. The 'Should we pay taxes to the Emperor? question. Jesus' response was to ask them a question.

May i ask you AHappyAtheist a question, or 2?

1. Your profile states that you have no intention of converting to Christianity - So why are you here?

2. The answer may be also in your profile? To debate? But that is not the purpose of this site or this Christian Answer forum.

3. You can compose many questions of one verse or many together - but will you accept the Christian answer? Because again we are NOT here to debate with non believers what the bible means.

Basically you ask, we answer to the best of our ability. Then you may ask further questions. It's not a debating forum. The Word of God says what it does and it won't change.

We want nothing more than to help you find faith. All we can do is answer your questions and time and love and the Holy Spirit do the rest.

We can't fight you or struggle to convince you. We can put God's biblical view in front of you, then you are free to accept it or walk away. I hope and pray you will one day soon be my brother. SofTy.