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    Fear is nearly always the reaction to something we don't understand, and yet, there's danger in studying something like this for young or immature Christians. It doesn't help that movies and books make people on the "other side" appear to be so powerful and such. Then there's the truth that many of us don't know our own religion (the Bible) enough to debate it with non-believers, which is embarrassing, which usually leads to aggression.
    You're absolutely right, and part of the problem is Christian 'autobiographies' by various ex-Queens of the Witches etc which are a load of garbage. They sensationalise and titillate for their audience (I suspect it's a direct marketing ploy), and they don't care that the upshot is a bunch of lies, which leads to superstition and sometimes actual violence from 'Christians' to Pagans.

    Your average Pagan is better-read and more articulate than your average Christian for whom apologetics is an unknown word, but in addition a minority of them actually have a relationship with their deities, and they're the hardest ones to reach in my experience of ministering to them, particularly if they were once evangelical Christians. Not impossible though, by the intervention and power of the Holy Spirit to reach hearts and minds.

    The way we live our lives is just as important as what we say. We need to be above-board, totally honest even when it means saying 'I don't know the answer to that question but I will go away and find out,' and deeply in prayer, not treat them as the enemy to be feared. I wouldn't approach a rebellious 16-year-old in the same way I would a 50-year-old Alexandrian High Priest, although my basic message will be the same - that they are following a demonic deception and need Jesus.

    There is no huge Wiccan conspiracy to take over the world - a small group can't even agree amongst themselves in the pub. But the spiritual deception behind Wicca and other strands of Paganism is real and it panders to man's basic sefishness and narcissism. 'Do what thou wilt' is as far as it goes for many of them. What average 16-year-old is going to argue with a minority (read 'exciting and semi-secret') religion which values the feminine highly, is completely non-judgemental on sexual matters with the exception of pedophilia and bestiality, is highly creative in an amateur dramatics sense, and promises a journey of 'self-development' along with acres of cheap velvet and tonnage of silver jewellery? It's handed to them on a plate and it fills the gap where modern Churchianity fails.

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    [Might be best to think of me as not wiccan and having been very much darker with views over Cochranes shenanagins]

    I have to back Bethany's first point.
    I meet the violence of Christians who had bought the lies of such books and was treated as the enemy to be feared. Fear brings forth some nasty fruit in Christians. Some behaved so badly the police had to be involved and their incessant accusations not only nearly drove me mad but it came very close to making me unable to hear Christ. I would have far rather dug my own eyes out with blunt spoons than accept the version of Christ they showed me.

    Only a few had the courage to say they did not understand what I believed and bother to listen and get to know me. The rest leaped in with errenous assumptions and tell me I spent all my time running round in the nip worshipping satan in a drug crazed sex orgy every night.

    The reality was I spent time in study, deep thought and some explorations when I was reasonably sure I understood the principles enough not to have magick implode on me. The majority of the time I engaged in social action, acadmic study, work and the boring things like shopping and paying the bills.

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    Re: Wicca is the fastest growing religion in the U.S.

    What I understand about Wicca is...

    It's described as a form of Paganism/Heathenism.

    Wiccans go out of their way to say that Wicca isn't Satanism.

    I'm currently attempting to do research on the whole concept of Paganism/Heathenism.

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    Re: Wicca is the fastest growing religion in the U.S.

    Quote Originally Posted by gringo300 View Post
    What I understand about Wicca is...

    It's described as a form of Paganism/Heathenism.

    Wiccans go out of their way to say that Wicca isn't Satanism.

    I'm currently attempting to do research on the whole concept of Paganism/Heathenism.
    Hey gringo..one might accuse you of necromancy for bringing this long dead thread to life!

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    Re: Wicca is the fastest growing religion in the U.S.

    Can someone give me a brief summary of what a Wiccan is

    Thanks
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    Re: Wicca is the fastest growing religion in the U.S.

    Hi Hunter...in short it's a false religion based somewhat on magic and witchcraft. My casual friends who are Wiccan tend to lean towards a Godess most have a male and female God....magic and earth worship is practiced...this is a fast late night almost 3 AM version lol but here for a better one try this
    though it is long and involved
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wicca
    The story of Job teaches us that the Devil has to be given permission to attack us. So if God is allowing the attack surely He's planning our victory. He would not allow us to be in a battle we could not win.! God looks for hand-picked people He can send into difficult environments, that He might be glorified. He makes all things "work together for good" (Ro 8:28) so don't be intimidated. Just keep your eyes open and see what God is up to!

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    Re: Wicca is the fastest growing religion in the U.S.

    A Wiccan is an adherent of Wicca.

    As for what Wicca is...

    Wicca is a form of Pagan/Heathen Witchcraft.

    I've been told that Wicca is actually a relatively young religion.

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    Re: Wicca is the fastest growing religion in the U.S.

    Quote Originally Posted by gringo300 View Post
    A Wiccan is an adherent of Wicca.

    As for what Wicca is...

    Wicca is a form of Pagan/Heathen Witchcraft.

    I've been told that Wicca is actually a relatively young religion.
    It really is. It's about 50-60 years old but the Babylonian roots from which all false religions derive has been around for thousands of years. There was a poster here once,I forget his name,but he was an ex-wiccan that came to the Lord. He had an awesome website that he created that showed the history of Wicca. I say awesome because he has some excellent detailed information but the cosmetics were bad. He had too many flashy gifs and the color scheme made it hard to read. However,the effort was worth it if you were interested in that stuff. I have been going through my old posts but I can find anything of mine that was posted before the server move. Too bad,it would have been nice to give you the link.
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    Re: Wicca is the fastest growing religion in the U.S.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ashley274 View Post
    Hi Hunter...in short it's a false religion based somewhat on magic and witchcraft. My casual friends who are Wiccan tend to lean towards a Godess most have a male and female God....magic and earth worship is practiced...this is a fast late night almost 3 AM version lol but here for a better one try this
    though it is long and involved
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wicca
    Thanks, to me this religion doesn't sound good at all, I mean this religion seems like a welcome mat for the devil. Something we should just stay away from.
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    Re: Wicca is the fastest growing religion in the U.S.

    I may have mentioned some of this earlier...

    Wicca is a form of Witchcraft, but Witchcraft is a lot broader concept than Wicca.

    Wicca is a form of Pagan/Heathen Witchcraft. From what I can tell, the thing people who practice the various forms of Pagan/Heathen Witchcraft have in common is that they adamantly deny that Pagan/Heathen Witchcraft is Satanism.

    This can get into the question of how one defines Satanism, in the first place.

    Some forms of Satanism don't define Satan as a living, conscious being.

    For example, from what I understand, Laveyan Satanism defines Satan as a symbolic concept.

    If I understand right, there ARE people who self-identify as Witches who self-identify as Satanists and who DO say that the Witchcraft they adhere to is Satanism.

    One may argue that Wicca comes from Satan. Wiccans don't claim that themselves.

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    Re: Wicca is the fastest growing religion in the U.S.

    Quote Originally Posted by gringo300 View Post
    I may have mentioned some of this earlier...

    Wicca is a form of Witchcraft, but Witchcraft is a lot broader concept than Wicca.

    Wicca is a form of Pagan/Heathen Witchcraft. From what I can tell, the thing people who practice the various forms of Pagan/Heathen Witchcraft have in common is that they adamantly deny that Pagan/Heathen Witchcraft is Satanism.

    This can get into the question of how one defines Satanism, in the first place.

    Some forms of Satanism don't define Satan as a living, conscious being.

    For example, from what I understand, Laveyan Satanism defines Satan as a symbolic concept.

    If I understand right, there ARE people who self-identify as Witches who self-identify as Satanists and who DO say that the Witchcraft they adhere to is Satanism.

    One may argue that Wicca comes from Satan. Wiccans don't claim that themselves.
    All false religions come from Satan. Satanism, Hindi, Islam, Mormonism, Buddhism, Wicca, they are all the same.

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    Re: Wicca is the fastest growing religion in the U.S.

    Quote Originally Posted by Reynolds357 View Post
    All false religions come from Satan. Satanism, Hindi, Islam, Mormonism, Buddhism, Wicca, they are all the same.
    Hindi is a LANGUAGE.

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    Re: Wicca is the fastest growing religion in the U.S.

    Quote Originally Posted by gringo300 View Post
    Hindi is a LANGUAGE.
    I think the important thing to see is that these pagan religions all have one source. Lucifer
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    Re: Wicca is the fastest growing religion in the U.S.

    Islam for example:

    From what I can tell, it is totally works oriented.

    Basically, filthy rags oriented.

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    Re: Wicca is the fastest growing religion in the U.S.

    Quote Originally Posted by gringo300 View Post
    Hindi is a LANGUAGE.
    Yep it is. Hinduism, then.

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