Pay poor $1000 to have vasectomy or tubes tied?

[diffangle]

Angyl, I don't like that talk,we weren't productions of our parents, and we don't produce any life outside of the will of God, babies are a gift from God, and there is not ONE child born on this earth that God did not intend for them to be.

So if a married couple decides after having their fourth child that one of them will have a vasectomy/tubes tied they are A)preventing God's will from happening or B)part of God's will happening?

This bill is evil

More evil than a bill that allows for a botched aborted living baby to be denied care so that it can live?

Excellent point.

Who are we to decide who 'deserves' to procreate?

Such a decision belongs only to the soveriegn Lord and Creator Himself.

Does each one of us decide with who and when we're going to have sex? Is it His will that unmarried crack addicts have babies? What does His Word say about fornication?

[Vhayes]

And isn't everyone all about choice these days?

Well - that's what I think; especially for unbelievers. But if you say the word "choice" in much of anything, you are told you cannot be a "Christian".

Been there - done that - have several tee-shirts that are worn clear out.

[cnw]

welcome to the world of eugenics
http://hnn.us/articles/1796.html

The head of planned parenthood is a eugenitist

[always]

No one is permanently CUTTING OFF groups of anything.

A choice is being given that not all will take. Even with a program in place not ALL will take it, the poor we will still have. SLUMS will still exist. So what groups, exactly are you talking about being "cut off?"

you and I as Christians should rebuke any thought in our minds that would verbalize into "I would like to present you with the CHOICE of being sterilize for society's sake and for yours too hahaha"


It's unGodly

[AngelAuthor]

This isn't eugenics, and frankly it is racist to presume that it is. No one is forcing a wipe-out of a specific race or class of people.

[AngelAuthor]

you and I as Christians should rebuke any thought in our minds that would verbalize into "I would like to present you with the CHOICE of being sterilize for society's sake and for yours too hahaha

Yes or no: It is easier to go to college as a single adult without children.

Yes or no?

[Vhayes]

you and I as Christians should rebuke any thought in our minds that would verbalize into "I would like to present you with the CHOICE of being sterilize for society's sake and for yours too hahaha"


It's unGodly

Why? Seriously. I'm not trying to obtuse but if a person determines that two or three children are enough for them, why is it unGodly to not procreate?

[diffangle]

If a married couple decides after having their fourth child that one of them will have a vasectomy/tubes tied they are A)preventing God's will from happening or B)part of God's will happening?

[AngelAuthor]

if a person determines that two or three children are enough for them, why is it unGodly to not procreate?

It's only unGodly if someone else DARE suggest it for your benefit.

[always]

Yes or no: It is easier to go to college as a single adult without children.

Yes or no?

Yes, it's easier, and irrelevent to what we are talking about.

If a married couple decides after having their fourth child that one of them will have a vasectomy/tubes tied they are A)preventing God's will from happening or B)part of God's will happening?

I personally Diffangle feel like it's A, but I am a fundalmentalist,and I don't judge those who use birth control.

and there are some dangerous side effects that can happen to a country with this mentality.

Read about China and the effects that their one child policy is having on their country



http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ar...TICLE_ID=37128

[always]

It's only unGodly if someone else DARE suggest it for your benefit.

exactly, you are catching on, that is not your place to suggest such a thing

[always]

His Word say about fornication?

It says that the fornicating is the sin, NOT having the child

[AngelAuthor]

Yes, it's easier, and irrelevent to what we are talking about.

It's completely relevant to what we're talking about. If your concern i for these people and improving their lives, the FACT is, that getting up from where they are is easier the fewer (or none) children that they have.

Read about China and the effects that their one child policy is having on their country

Talk about irrelevant to the discussion. We aren't talking about limiting people to how many children they have...not as a country, nor as any particular socio economic class. We're talking about OFFERING IT as a CHOICE to help improve the situation. This isn't going to lead us to China's position in any way, shape or form.

[AngelAuthor]

It says that the fornicating is the sin, NOT having the child

It also says that a man (or woman) who doesn't provide for their own family is worse than an infidel, but you're all for continuing that sin.

[always]

It also says that a man (or woman) who doesn't provide for their own family is worse than an infidel, but you're all for continuing that sin.

No I'm not, but I'm not for not extending a hand to them, for we don't know why they are in the positions they are in

Talk about irrelevant to the discussion. We aren't talking about limiting people to how many children they have...not as a country, nor as any particular socio economic class. We're talking about OFFERING IT as a CHOICE to help improve the situation. This isn't going to lead us to China's position in any way, shape or form.

A choice todaaaaaaaaay, mandatory tomorrow

don't give em the inch